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artisdrama · 2 years

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where we are - vegaspete and the temple scene

in episode 9, vegas and pete have their first proper interaction, even though they are by no means strangers. so far, the only information we have is that kinn suspects vegas is involved in tawan’s return and that he has a mole in the first family, and pete’s goal is to figure out as much as he can. pete is a notoriously bad stalker, and keeps getting caught red handed by vegas. right now, their future relationship has finally the precedents to develop into something sexual - though not romantic.

where’s vegas right now

for vegas, being followed means two things: first, he now represents a threat to kinn, which gives him the satisfaction that he’s is powerful enough to bother kinn to have his most trusted guard to be at the look out for him. his desire to antagonize out of deep hatred and envy is being fulfilled, and definitely brings him a little bit of joy, which makes him play around in order to mess up with both kinn and pete. on the other hand, now it would be of the major family’s interest to get rid of him, hence him going after porsche looking for sympathy - by trying to ally himself to porsche, he’s also admitting that his actions have cornered him to a point where insisting probably means death.

that makes being followed also thrilling, as any slip could give in the information he so carefully took care off these last few episodes - by eliminating the italians, which is hinted that worked along with the second family, he’s also trying to erase the minor family’s deeds to gain both trust and power. if the hints left in the episode are true, he’s also probably using tawan to mislead the major family into investigating the italians and not the minor family. having pete following him should worry him, but right now he feels as powerful and controlling as he feels cautious, and he takes enjoyment in playing with fire.

for vegas, pete is not exactly a threat but amusing - the man is clearly a bad stalker, but he is the most trusted bodyguard of the major family and does his duty diligently. i think that vegas is intrigued by pete in a way he’s not by any other of the bodyguards, even porsche, yet it’s not romantic at all, but psychological and sometimes a little erotic. i’ll explain.

vegas takes a lot of satisfaction in their current dynamic and in the fact that pete is putting the utmost effort into running around him, and he has fun leading him to random places and then getting pete lost. he also likes to get him unaware, just like in the car in episode 6. the power play they’re currently playing makes him excited, and vegas likes the sensation that he has some sort of control over pete - and that pete can’t escape, since he’s bound by duty to follow him, making vegas always take the lead on whatever will happen next.

vegas also seems to believe that pete is an interesting person, as he doesn’t back off. even after getting caught more than once he still seems to be calm and composed, and during the torture scene in episode seven he’s the only one to not look away and watch it all. in his mind, pete likes the risk of following him. vegas sees himself as a predator (which is also shown through his wardrobe throughout the series, with constant animal prints) and he feels that pete’s behavior is one of an obedient follower that’s vulnerable to his plans. he’s so bad at what he’s doing, but he still does it.

i believe that, when vegas looks at pete smiling throughout the episode, he’s genuinely enjoying watching pete’s reactions to him and how much he affects him. as someone that gets off on power imbalance and dominating, shown through episode 4 in his red room with whips and chains, pete’s reactions (important, to him) are slightly erotic too. just like when he reminisces about porsche hitting him with enjoyment, he also sees pete’s struggle against him through a near sexual lenses.

he openly flirts with pete, insinuating a relationship with him. his goal is to disturb pete’s imagination and perception of him. right now, pete sees him as the first son of the minor clan and kinn’s rival, and takes no interest in vegas as a person. vegas insinuating himself as someone to have a relationship much like a family and a partner has the goal to make pete’s thoughts astray and to induce him into visualizing him sexually. that’s done with the intention of intimidating pete, as vegas feels that pete would probably be distraught by the idea - both because he’s a loyal follower to his boss and wouldn’t want to desire him, but because vegas also suspects pete’s a masochist and will feel guilty for having these thoughts and not feeling disgusted by them.

the last point, for vegas, is the way pete obediently puts himself at service for him. he offers to go for another jug, and also promptly goes to pour the water for vegas. pete’s obedience to power is attractive to vegas, and he feels a curiosity for pete that he hasn’t felt for any other person, as in his mind pete is affected by his power on a deeper level. this satisfacts vegas’ ego so much that he feels drawn to provoking pete more and more.

where’s pete right now

while vegas’ intentions in the series are almost too easy to read, pete still hasn’t shown as detailed as him neither his motivations, nor his inner monologue. we know much less about what drives pete forward, especially since he puts himself at the service of other people and not to himself. we know, however, pete is a religious person, and it’s willing to put his best in every job.

during all interactions between him and vegas, he shows to be more interested in observing vegas’ actions with the goal of understanding instead of judging and passing a moral ruling. he has no interest in narratives of heroes and villains, and is also not impressed by the cruelty of vegas’ actions.

as a side note: for the torture scene, i see pete’s reaction more as him reminiscing on his recent encounter with vegas, where he was caught spying him, and what vegas is capable to do to him if he ever finds himself vulnerable to him. i think pete is also curious about vegas’ methods and wondering to which point his cruelty is done out of pure sadism or to which extent that was needed to extract information. since pete is someone that values getting the job done, i don’t think he’s inclined to completely dismiss the importance of vegas actions. i think he stopped big’s punching not out of sympathy (since, as we see in the third episode, he’s willing to kick a man until he almost passes out and seems to also enjoy ruling punishment), but because big’s methods were inefficient.

back to episode 9, pete seems to not be disturbed by vegas for the first part of the scene. he even asks out of curiosity whether vegas enjoys listening to the sermon, which makes me believe that he’s not frightened by the proximity they are at that current moment. he also seems to wonder how much vegas is messing up with him and how much he’s actually into the sermon.

in a sense, pete still sees that as an opportunity to understand vegas more. his curiosity goes further than only the job he has to do, to also getting a grasp on the other’s actions and how they guide vegas’ steps. maybe the information macau gave, that vegas seems to currently be into dharma, makes pete feel that there’s a bridge towards understanding, as pete is also religious. at the same time, pete is still a little bit cynical of vegas’ intentions in going there.

pete only gets distraught at the moment they have to make merits. it’s vegas insinuation of praying together and meeting in another life that takes pete off the tracks and makes him start getting nervous. until that point, he still felt a sense of security. it’s not that he believes that vegas didn’t notice he’s following him, but the fact that he still feels that vegas is not a threat to him. by this point, i think pete notices that vegas’ sudden interest in buddhism has nothing to do with the dharma, but the fact that he’s messing with him, going there exactly because he knows he’s being followed. for pete, someone that is religious, he wouldn’t suggest making merits with a stranger, and it finally hits him why vegas isn’t there.

to add on this, vegas touches pete back in an intimate suggestion, right after suggesting they both did something usually reserved for families and couples. pete, by this point, hasn’t thought of vegas in any situation that isn’t the young master of the minor clan. with the touch, his mind goes astray to numerous thoughts. while vegas hands slowly goes down, he also starts to have pictures in his mind of vegas not only as someone that’s dangerous but someone that is also preying on him. in his mind, even if he’s not interested, he’s forced to picture vegas as a partner and what would that be like, and added to the erotic undertones of their current situation he definitely pictures something sexual.

my theory is that he doesn’t understand how he feels about those pictures in his mind, and that’s the source of his distress. he doesn’t feel as repulsed as he thinks he should have felt, and that makes him conflicted about himself. he tries to get away from vegas’ touch, but he’s still out of his mind.

until the point he pours water and comes back, he seems to be completely out of it, lost in thoughts and distracted from the mission. he’s so out of it that it doesn’t occur to him that vegas is trying to get him lost. when he gets back, he’s finally composed and seems to be already back to his normal self when he realizes vegas isn’t there anymore. when he finds the post-it, he instantly regrets how vegas has tricked him into distracting himself and losing sight of the mission.

conclusion

vegas’ insinuation only works against pete because pete is vulnerable to power play. it’s mentioned in the novel by vegas that, the moment he laid his eyes on pete, he knew pete was a masochist. i don’t think that’s true of the novel pete, since his inner monologue shows otherwise, and I think it’s something the authors added just because of some sort of fantasy they already had. but so far, pete in the series seems to be built around order and obedience, punishment and reward, though we haven’t seen much of the dark side he’s still hiding. so i think it’s true to the series that maybe vegas has already caught on how power is one of pete’s weaknesses and is already manipulating him based on that.

i also feel that this sets a precedent for sexual tension between their relationship, even though it’s more from vegas’ side. pete’s willingness in going to vegas’ house in the next episode also shows that he feels he can definitely handle vegas in the worst case situation, and he seems to be a little enticed by the thrill of everything, maybe as much as vegas. of course porsche and pete’s relationship is the main reason he’s getting in the house, but he seems to be willing to do something of too much of a high risk too abruptly instead of carefully planning it, which makes me believe he also likes the hunt.

vegas is definitely attracted to pete, but he has no thoughts whatsoever aside from the prospect of dominating and leading their relationship (whatever it currently is). i don’t think it ever occurs to him to see pete even as a person, much less a potential partner. pete, on the other hand, has a morbid curiosity for vegas and is just now understanding how much of a hand vegas already has on him and the major family, and he’s definitely interested in understanding it. to me, this scene is much better than the cinema scene in the novel, and sets a mood for what will be the beginning of their relationship instead of making their sexual interest in one another come out of nowhere.

#vegaspete #kinnporsche #kinnporsche spoilers #kinnporsche the series #kinnporsche episode 9 #vegaspete analysis #vegaspete theory

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jinflowrs · 2 years

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My opinion on VegasPete's development in the series

⚠️ Novel spoilers ⚠️

I'm going to be really honest here...

I'm really disappointed in the way they developed VegasPete story on the show. Of course, in terms of the torture and the sex, I liked the series version a lot more, without a doubt, but the rest of their story... all the development was lacking!!

Anyone who hasn't read the novel will think that their relationship is totally focused on torture, daddy issues, sex, choking and suddenly they're in love??!!

It doesn't make any sense, where are the crucial moments in the novel that made the two of them get closer? Where's the scene where they see the movie "Coco" hugging each other? (I WAS DYING TO SEE THIS SCENE THE MOST) Where's the scene with Pete helping Vegas with his reports and Vegas patting his head?? Where’s the sweet kiss they had in the bathroom? Where is the scene where Vegas shaves Pete’s beard? Them eating together and Pete making Vegas eat spicy food even though he doesnt like it??!! okay im gonna stop or i will start crying

Another very important thing they took away was that when Vegas loves, he's never able to hurt that person and all of a sudden they have him grabbing Pete's neck and threatening to kill him again??! it just didnt make any sense at that point.

They took away a lot of important stuff from the novel and totally screwed up on the development of their love and I'm really disappointed. When I saw that their story started so late in the series, I already expected that they wouldn't put everything but I had hopes that they would at least put scenes that in the novel are crucial to their story.

But I want to point out that even though I don't like how their story is being represented, I have to congratulate Build and Bible because they are doing an amazing job representing VegasPete and I can't imagine anyone else doing that so well except them.

Anyways... this is my opinion and I want to know yours! Tell me what are you thinking about their story?

#vegaspete #biblebuild #vegas x pete #kinn x porsche #kinnporsche #kinnporsche the series #kinnporsche thoughts #vegaspete theory #this is only my opinion #dont kill me #i was just expecting more #i love them very much #im just sad #im sorry for my english its not my mother language okay?#vegas theerapanyakul #pete saengtham

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pransbf · 2 years

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okay im done freaking out now the big question is how are they going to develop the vegaspete storyline without making it rushed in 4 episodes they barely get enough screentime like even today's was less than 5 mins i think and the trailer and jeff's mv showed scenes of pete after he escaped at the club and in the main family's house plus we also saw scenes of the family confronting eo so this means all of vegaspetes development in vegas' room will be covered in season 1 im feeling very scared for them idk

#vegaspete #kinnporsche the series #kinnporsche spoilers #vegaspete theory

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ravenpureforever · 2 years

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I think the best part of KinnPorsche, and it really comes to mind with this latest episode, is that every character thinks they’re in a different genre and it’s the funniest thing watching it clash with the reality.

Kinn is just living his best rom-com life where he falls for his sassy but kind assistant bodyguard that he can no longer live with out.

Porsche is basically a YA novel where he falls for his sexy morally ambiguous love interest who’s secretly sweet but *gasp* his past has come to haunt him!

Pete thinks he’s in a dark psychological thriller where he must battle his inner demons and brooding but hot captor to maintain his humanity but it threatens to over take him at any moment as he is torn between his newly found dark desires and the reputation he prides himself on.

Vegas acts like he’s in gothic bodice ripper novel where his entire world becomes the kind, empathic heroine Pete and he will do anything to keep him to himself and Pete is going to help him overcome the truama of his past with his love.

Kim sees himself in this brooding noir style detective film where he must uncover the dark past of his family but oh no he finds himself falling for the pure and sweet ingénue Chay and must wrestle with the dangerous life he leads and the mission he’s devoted himself to and the love of his life

Porchay thought he’s living his Wattpad dream life where he meets his idol and gains his respect as he tutors him and they slowly develop a sweet friendship that turns into a heartfelt romance

They really demonstrate how all the characters are protagonists of their own story, and that’s how they make their decisions, based on the assumptions on the world around them. They think they know the story their in, and that’s the role they have taken, but the tragedy and the complications of these relationships is that they aren’t in a single genre story. They’re people, achingly human people, interacting with other complex people and what is salvation for one is a damnation for the other.

They aren’t in any specific genre (you know, beyond on the whole mafia thing) and that’s where the miscommunication happens, that’s how the drama unfolds, that’s how all these different romances keep missing each other, because they’re all operating on different wavelengths based on the story they think *THEY’RE* in and not stopping to really consider the other perspective.

It’s absolutely hilarious, it’s terribly tragic, it’s utterly beautiful and performed so well by the writers and the actors.

#kinnporsche the series #KinnPorsche #kimchay #vegaspete #they’re all unhinged disasters #i love them so much #i’m obsessed #porsche my beloved #kinnporsche meta #kinda at least #just my little ramble/thought/theory #i just love how they are all the main character of their own story #and it really shows how they think they’re in a different show then the one they’re in #in the end it’s a mafia bl series #but they’re in denial about the inevitablity of it lmao #eventually they’re going to have to reconcile it #and I for one can not wait #kinnporsche episode 13

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lu-sn · 2 years

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remembering back to that liminal week between ep12 and ep13. how we were all losing our minds trying to figure out: what is pete going to do next?

maybe he's going to manipulate the shit out of vegas, lure him in like a honey trap before ruthlessly crushing his heart, leaving vegas behind as carnage in the wreckage.

maybe he's going to bide his time. not encourage vegas's advances but not discourage them either, keep his cards close to his chest and his wits about him before he finds a moment to slip out when vegas's guard is down.

maybe - maybe he'll stay. maybe he's perceptive enough to see through the abusive behavior, willing to help vegas work through it because he's a bastion of mental strength on his own. he can take it, because their love is worth it. bit by bit, vegas will learn what it means to love someone without hurting them. and then they'll take over the world.

and then, ep13 dropped, and it was none of those things. it was so much simpler than that.

pete is human. he's not some crazy resilient dark horse, capable of taking anything thrown at him, capable of turning this insane situation on its head. instead, he was just human enough to be in pain. to be caught up in a depressive spiral, because he was in the worst mental state of his life and yet he couldn't stop part of himself from wanting to be there.

and despite that, he was strong enough to tell vegas plainly: i'm hurting. you are hurting me. and so i have to go.

no manipulations, no plans, no schemes. just honesty.

and then he was strong enough to go.

#uh no i'm def not watching ep13 for the 10000th time what are you talking about #anyways. this is a love letter to pete #but it's also a love letter to the scriptwriters #for writing pete this way #i remember being caught up in all of these extremely compelling and interesting theories during that time #and i was just inhaling those theories!!! i would have loved to see any of those on screen #but the scriptwriters chose to give us the most human story of all and i think thats a very hard thing to do #kinnporsche #pete saengtham #vegaspete #ep13 my love

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misspoetree · 2 years

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Ohhh, guys. I just had an inkling.

By now, we all know how this show loves to work with parallels, how everything important comes back in one way or another, how they evoke associations through the repetition of certain words and actions by different characters.

In the last three episodes, they did this with Vegas and Kinn; we had the homoerotic first aid:

The kissing of the hand:

Both of them wanting to start all over with their partner:

Even their..."style of apology" is similar 😅:

I'm sure there's more, these are just a few examples off the cuff.

We also know that there's going to be a big battle in the final episode, a shootout between the main and the minor family, as it seems. Vegas will be there. Pete will be there. It's going to be dangerous.

And what happens when love and danger collide in this show?

Self-sacrifice.

Sooo...you see what I'm getting at? Because I feel like there's a good change that we get a final (survivable) instalment of the human shield trilogy.

It would even be at a somewhat "similar" point in the relationship between Vegas and Pete as back when Kinn took the bullet for Porsche: both Kinn and Vegas realising how terribly they hurt their partner, both trying to make them understand how sorry they are.

And it would make perfect sense for Vegas, right? Showing Pete how much he means to him, how much his life is worth (to him) by protecting him with his own body, taking the (physical) pain for him - after causing so much of it.

[That way, they could also bring the blood types back - I'm an 0 too, so I know that Pete would be able to give blood to Vegas (ignoring the rhesus factor). And how bittersweet would that be. But that's just an afterthought.]

Anyways, this is my wild theory, my prediction for episode 14. Could be complete BS, could be a fanfiction I'm accidentally writing in my head. 😅

Let's wait and see what they'll really throw at us.

#maybe I watched too much Chinese dramas - because self-sacrifice is THE trope there 😂#I'm so stressed #what are they going to do to all of our boys 😭🙈#kinnporsche predictions #kinnporsche theories #kinnporsche meta #kinnporsche #kinnporche the series #thai bl #vegaspete #vegas theerapanyakul #pete phongsakorn #kinnporsche parallels #Kinn and Vegas parallels #the kinnporsche brain rot is real

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aantinous · 1 year

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#kinnporsche the series #vegaspete #very very curious to know folks' thoughts on this #if you have a specific moment in mind i'd love to know!#i have my ✨theories✨ but i suspect they aren't the most popular

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acacia-luna-royal · 2 years

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This is why I need to stop watching the newest episode of KinnPorsche when I’m on the verge of sleep (basically me going to sleep between 4:30am and 6:30am or later) because I happened to notice only a part of something which only turned out to be a whole lot bigger and I’m pissed that I only noticed one thing out of all of the other things that was in this scene.

I’m talking about this scene:

We all know what happens in this scene; it’s where Arhtee gets shot/killed and he falls into Porsche’s arms. Vegas has his gun at the ready, ready to protect both himself and Porsche and he’s looking around for where the shot that hit Arhtee came from. Porsche then collapses due to a traumatic and pain-inducing flashback and momentarily becomes deaf to the situation around him. Seeing Porsche in this state, Vegas more or less hops over Porsche to try and get his attention; gun pointed in the direction of where the shot came from, and then he points his gun in the direction of where he can see movement coming towards both him and Porsche.

Now, I look at faces and if there is an expression change within a millisecond, it’s the first thing I’ll notice before I notice changes in the other parts of the body and the first thing I noticed with Vegas during these couple of seconds is how he’s calculated, concentrating on focusing on whoever is running towards them, ready to shoot if need be.

Vegas literally goes from this:

To then change, within a millisecond, to shock, desperation and disbelief when he realises that one of the two people running over to him and Porsche is Pete.

It’s just a micro change in his expression but damn does it speak volumes. Vegas realised that he wouldn’t be able to shoot from that distance and not risk hitting Pete and decided that running was the best option. A literal: “Porsche, you’ve got to get up! Yeah, your husband is scary, but mine is so much scarier!” And he hastily continues to try and get Porsche back to reality and back on his feet so that they can get the fuck out of there.

But it’s so much more than that.

Someone on YouTube pointed out that Vegas removed his finger off the trigger as soon as he recognised that it was Pete running over to them:

And then another thing they pointed out was Vegas looking into the wing mirror of his bike; taking one last look at Pete before he drove him and Porsche away:

I only noticed the facial expression change!! I completely missed the rest!! I am not okay right now! 😭😭

#kinnporsche #VegasPete #Vegas #Vegas Theerapanyakul #Pete #Pete Phongsakorn #KinnPorsche ep13 has me messed up in so many ways #Bible Wichapas #Build Jakapan #a freaking mess over here #I am not okay right now #I’ll never recover #theories for who shot Arhtee: no freaking clue #it could be Chan #to stop him spreading secrets #could be someone from the minor family who was stalking Vegas with Kan’s order to keep an eye on his son #as it’s obvious that Kan doesn’t trust Vegas or even consider him to be his son #these scenarios in my mind aren’t helping

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mineonmain · 2 years

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KINNPORSCHE EP 11 MOODBOARD (no context memes) ((but do you really need context))

Kinnporsche:

Vegaspete:

Kimchay:

Tankhun:

Me:

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letsabandonthisworld · 2 years

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there have been many posts about pete potentially using the smexy times next ep to escape but y'all... i think we're actually right. like with the amount of blue lighting in this shot:

pete has agency here, he is in control of the situation, he is allowing this to happen.

there is no more influence of vegas' red and green colors. yes, there is pink, but pink has been established as a character neutral color for setting a romantic/sexual/intimate mood, it is not bound to vegas specifically. we only see vegas a little bit in the purple between them but aside from that - this is all pete.

he is playing vegas and he will get what he wants on his terms - whether that is running away or staying - pete will decide.

#a theory i wholeheartedly believe in #it's the logical next step for their relationship #to have pete hold the power #kinnporsche #vegaspete #kinnporsche series #kinnporsche ep 11

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raelle-writing · 2 years

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So I have a lot of questions about the Vegas and Tawan situation in canon. It’s never fully explained just HOW Vegas and Tawan ended up together.

And I’m here like… was Vegas with Tawan from the beginning? Did he have Tawan go entice Kinn just to break his heart? I think that seems unlikely and more forward-thinking than Vegas would’ve been at the time.

So then how did Vegas end up with Tawan being all lovesick all over him? After all, Tawan is shown to be a manipulative sociopath who prioritizes himself and betrayed Kinn for his own gain. So how did Vegas out-manipulate that?

I have a theory.

I think after Kinn shot Tawan, Vegas found him while he was broken and bleeding. I think Vegas took him in and treated his wounds, nursing him back to health. Then I think Vegas did precisely what he did with Porsche - telling Tawan that he’d always had a thing for him. That he deserved better than someone like Kinn. That Vegas would always love and prioritize him. That he could have Vegas’ softened edges, that he only reserved for the people close to him.

Someone as self-centered as Tawan would fall for that hook, line, and sinker. Of course Vegas loved him before. What’s not to love?

That explains why Tawan is so completely nuts over Vegas when it seems out of sorts with his character.

#anyone else have theories #this has been driving me bonkers #I’ve rewatched the show like 16 times!!! and I still don’t get it!#how did Vegas out manipulate someone like Tawan?#by playing into his narcissism of course #vegaspete #tawan #kp tawan #vegas #vegas theerapanyakul #kinnporsche the series #kinnporsche meta #does this count as meta im not sure #kinnporsche vegas #vegas kornwit theerapanyakun

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jinflowrs · 2 years

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We all know that Pete is going to escape in this episode and the next one is the final one where we are going to see minor family fight the major family, but we also know that Pete is going to be fighting alongside Kinn and major family:

So imagine when the episode of today ends and they show the preview of the next one we are going to see Vegas and Pete pointing a gun at each other 😭😭 I'm gonna cry 😭😭

#vegaspete #biblebuild #vegas x pete #im going crazy #why did i do this #kinnporsche #kinnporsche the series #vegaspete theory

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clandestinegardenias · 2 years

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Pete: Front Stage and Back Stage

I’ve been thinking about this for awhile, but Ep 13 really drove it home for me so I’m back on my social theory meta bullshit bandwagon! JOIN ME.

Today’s theorist is Erving Goffman, who did work in the realm of social psychology; basically how individuals interact with society and social groups.

[Special Skills: Accidentally invented postmodernism?]

One of his big theories was dramaturgy, aka the idea that individuals have social ‘personas’ that they act out in everyday life. These performances are intended to convey a certain impression to a given audience. They allow us to manage how others see us.

A big part of this is the concept of front stage/back stage.

Front stage is the show that we put on for the audience; the intentional impression that we act out and work to provide. The audience, we are aware, is judging this performance and evaluating what kind of person we are.

Back stage is the relaxed, core, true self. It’s the parts of ourselves that we hide, disguise, and choose not to show to an audience, thereby managing their impression of us.

A classic example is customer service, where a helpful friendly persona is put on so that customers feel at ease and accommodated. The workers true feelings towards the customer are hidden in the backstage–the act may or may not be genuine, but the IMPRESSION is given that it is.

The back stage normally comes out when the audience is not perceived as being present to judge an individual’s performance–but what happens if the audience never leaves? What happens, say, if you’re a bodyguard under literally constant surveillance or threat of surveillance?

You might put on your front stage ‘mask’ all the time, to the extent that NO ONE gets to see your back stage. It might seem, even to yourself, that you don’t have one any more. You’re permanently in customer service mode.

You have become the mask, the cardboard cut out version of you that you put in front of your true self.

This really hit me with Pete when he’s breaking down in Ep 13 after Vegas threatens him.

His assertion that he “has no feelings” and even no humanity…

( Image @vegastheerapanyakul )

…is quickly replaced by an equally strong pleading statement to Vegas that he’s human and has feelings.

(Image @liyazaki )

So why the quick turnabout?

My front stage/back stage take is that Pete’s initial statement that he has no feelings and no humanity is all about the front stage that Pete has constructed.

Everyone around Pete (us as the audience included) sees him as relatively one-dimensional for the first ¾ of the season. Pete is friendly, happy, silly, maybe a bit naive, and he lacks depth.

However in the arc with Vegas we learn that this is all a show–Pete has trauma, and soul-deep sadness, and complicated emotions. He’s a fully realized person, but no one ever sees that Pete; he never SHOWS that to anyone (except perhaps Porsche in little doses?).

I think that when Pete says he has no feelings/humanity, he’s referring to the act, the mask, the cardboard cutout version of Pete that is so firmly in place at all times that Pete is afraid that’s who he has BECOME–so afraid he’s ready to die rather than go back to that.

And Vegas threatening him, going back to their earlier dynamic, is shoving Pete back behind that mask. Denying that Vegas has SEEN Pete’s back stage and should KNOW that Pete is more than he first appears.

Pete’s asserting that he DOES have feelings and is human is a reclamation of the fact that he has a back stage, he has depth and complexity and trauma and darkness, and finally, FINALLY someone (Vegas) has seen all of it.

Pete is begging, pleading with Vegas to confirm that–you see me, right? You see that I’m a full, true, complex person. I’m not just your pet, your cardboard cut out version of me.

Don’t make me go back behind the mask–I half believe that’s all I am myself, don’t you believe it too. Not after you’ve seen otherwise, and reminded me to see it too.

(tagging fellow KP social theorist @yeetlegay and my muse @stormyoceans)

#kinnporsche #kinnporsche the series #kinnporsche ep 13 #vegaspete #pete saengtham #kinnporsche meta #social theory #me thrown for a loop by pete's I don't have feelings no wait YES I DO: I'm gonna spend SO MUCH TIME THINKING ABOUT SOCIAL THEORY #as always there are likely other good or more correct explanations out there BUT!!!#that's the beauty of social theory is every theory is one LENS you can view a given situation/interaction through #it's not cut and dry ultimate truths #it's interpretations based on theoretical perspectives #anyway....taking of my professor hat now...

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My top 5 bls (for now 😌):

1.I told sunset about you- I'm a sucker for skinships but this series didn't need it for me to fall inlove. Just staring at each other was enough tbh. Also Oh-aew's dialogues to comfort Teh to not overthink/confused really warms my heart.

2.Not Me-Aside from being a bl the plot is really good. I just love the story. As usual OffGun supremacy. The acting is insane esp Gun's.

3.Bad Buddy-The 2nd bl that I watched. I laughed and had so many butterflies on ohmnanon's impeccable acting and chemistry.

4.Kinnporsche-My longing for more mature scenes lmao but skinships aside the plot is also really interesting and the side characters are also as equal to the main leads tbh they're never boring.

5.Theory of Love-Again OffGun supremacy. I just love the friendship to lovers trope and I love Khai's character development.

I also watched some bls but these 5 will have a special place in my heart. 😘

My honorable mentions:

2gether-The first bl i watched. No wonder the audience are hooked by this series it's because of BrightWin's undeniable chemistry,supportive friends,and the cute story.

Dark Blue Kiss-PeteKao Supremacy. Pete's supportive dad and 'dating a man is just like dating a girl there's no difference' hell yeah.

Tharntype-I love toxic relationships lmao jk. The overall chemistry,jealousy moments,and sweet moments.

Vice Versa-The story is unique. It's like a multiverse but in bl. Still ongoing but I hope we get a happy ending.

Young Royals-The aquarium scene. One of the best scene ever. I love how complicated this lovestory is.

Kieta Hatsukoi-Michieda is so cute. I'm a sucker for jdoramas and this is my first japanese bl. The wholesome and cuteness overload.

Heartstopper-One of the best bl in the history. Nick's the best bf ever. There are other preferences in this series too.

Skam(Norwegian ver.)-Isak and Even supremacy. One of my fave otps ever.

Cherry magic-The innocence and cuteness of Adachi.

Elitè-Not entirely a bl but Patrick is one of my most fave characters in the history of all series and my versa king.

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