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ex0rin · 1 year
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The President wants to take offensive action against Wakanda. What type of offensive action? Destabilization.
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bbyboybucket · 1 year
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Val is #1 on my mcu shit list, she may be a milf but I will not be fooled, we hate her in this house
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guiltburdened · 9 months
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I will always lament that Natasha Romanoff didn't have a better ending, or a riding off into the sunset, and retiring (something I hope that Bucky gets in the end with MCU, and not dying, because his past now is gone and not having purpose). But yeah, Scarlett wanted to leave the role, and I respect her decision, and I don't want her to just hang around doing movies, when she is unhappy just to entertain me. It's her life. And she did not have a good experience, and probably fought alot about her character direction.
Give me a like though, if you're a bit excited to see Yelena Belova to take over the Black Widow mantle, and franchise, with her own story, and maybe fight some of her comic villains.
Perhaps Val becoming MCU's version of Madame Hydra.
Maybe a returning Bridgette Regan, as Dottie Underwood from Agent Carter, finally linking Agent Carter, and the MCU proper together.
Wanting to do a little survey.
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samcky · 2 years
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I hate thunderbolts, i hate movies about antiheroes and villains doing "good things", i hate that bucky's in it, i hate that yelena's in it, i hate the red guardian and i absolutely, with burning passion hate john walker. i don't want that movie, i'd rather not have my beloved character (bucky) in any movie than have him work with all new and rebranded hydra under val, who's name in the comic is literally madame hydra and be all chummy-chummy with fucking walker. i hate that they will destroy so many character arcs with it. i hate it
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noctumbra · 2 years
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am i the only one a little confused about bucky being part of the thunderbolts? they’re meant to be a team of villains, right (since they’re working for val/madam hydra)? why would bucky be part of that when they’ve spent so much on his character development to make him not a villain anymore? especially after his redemption of sorts in tfatws and friendship with sam. the only thing i can think of is that he may be part of the project, but not necessarily confirmed to be part of that team yet within the show...🤔
from what i heard, thunderbolts is actually a team that is something between hero and villain. like,,, they're not avengers but they're not hydra either. something in between.
madam hydra is a villain, true, but we don't know how they're going to work with bucky. maybe he's going to realize what is actually happening and gonna put a stop to that etc.
i honestly didn't like the way they worked with bucky's arc in tfatws, so i'm not very optimistic about thunderbolts, but i'm gonna watch it for the sake of seeing and having more content of bucky lol
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obscurest-reference · 2 years
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there's so much to impact so i'll just go down the list of whats been announced (and leaked)
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (Feb 17, 2023)
i have no thoughts on this movie. i am excited for more Kang lore and for Cassie to be a bug (?) but that's about it. i hope Luis returns
Secret Invasion (Spring 2023)
okay so i get the Skrulls and Kree mixed up but after googling it i now remember the difference
i am honestly really excited for more Fury and Maria. i miss Fury and Maria had so much potential so i'm just. i'm vibing with this one
Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 3 (May 5, 2023)
i'm only slightly more excited for this one than for Quantumania
i do remember hearing that this'll be basically the end of the GotG (feel free to correct me if i'm wrong) so i'm kinda sad but if it's anything like the other two films i'm so ready for this one
Echo (Summer 2023)
FUCK.
I'M SO
FUUUUUUUCK
Jessica Jones better show up at the end of this one >:(
but in all seriousness Echo seems like a really cool character and I can't wait to see and learn more about her (and see more of Fisk?)
Loki s2 (Summer 2023)
The Marvels (July 28, 2023)
I heard it was gonna be part musical?? idk i'm not looking forward to that part. could work with Joker but not with the Marvels, sorry
but! i am excited to see more Maria and Kamala
my theory is that Carol found the second bangle and that's how her and Kamala switched places
Blade (Nov 3, 2023)
tbh i know nothing about Blade other than he hunts vampires and Eternals was supposed to set this up
and also that there was already a Blade movie
should i watch the old Blade movie? was it good?
imagine if he kills Morbius in the movie.
Ironheart (Fall 2023)
i'm actually pretty excited for this one despite hardly knowing anything about the character!!
i know Riri is gonna be in Black Panther II so i bet it'll set this show up
Agatha: Coven of Chaos (Winter 2023/Early 2024)
ok imma be honest, i think i'm least excited for this one
idk! i liked Agatha as a one-off villain, i didn't really see her character going anywhere after WandaVision
i have no idea whats gonna happen in this show. is her husband finally gonna show up or
Daredevil: Born Again (Spring 2024)
- HOLY FUCKING SHIT
I'M SO FUCKING
I WANT TO PUKE (/pos)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Captain America: New World Order (May 3, 2024)
FINALLY MY BOY SAM IS GETTING THE RECOGNITION HE DESERVES
I'M SO EXCITED FOR THIS ONE
i really fucking hope Bucky doesn't die, not only because he's been my comfort character for 8 years, but because i also want him to be in
Thunderbolts (July 26, 2024)
okay okay so i skimmed the wiki page for 616 Thunderbolts and this is the group i wanna see:
Zemo and Bucky as reluctant and hateful co-leaders (or one or the other as the leader, but i def want both to be in it)
John Walker as U.S. Agent and Yelena Belova as the Black Widow
(these four alone are such a fun combination and i cannot express how much i want them to be a group)
Kate Bishop (and maybe even Clint Barton!) as Hawkeye
bonus ones that don't make sense but would be fun: Taskmaster and Ghost
also, i know Val was Madame Hydra, but considering how she went to both John and Yelena, what if she's putting together the Thunderbolts?
Fantastic Four (Nov 8, 2024)
IF JOHN KRASINSKI ISNT MR FANTASTIC I DONT WANT IT!!!!!!
if Krasinski is Mr. Fantastic can Emily Blunt be Sue Storm pls
oh i'll also take it if Joe Keery is Human Torch
if none of those people are in the cast then I Don't Want It
Avengers: Kang Dynasty (May 2, 2025)
holy fucking SHIT
Avengers: Secret Wars (Nov 7, 2025)
I really really fucking hope this isnt supposed to be a sequel to Kang Dynasty
but!
i am!
very!
fucking!
excited!
Other thoughts on other announcements/leaks
after seeing the full She-Hulk trailer, i can safely say i am now more excited for this one than i previously was (it was the one i was least excited for lmao)
when is the black panther trailer supposed to drop i thought it was gonna get released like an hour ago sobs
no?? no Shang-Chi or Moon Knight news?? none?? come on Marvel y'all know those are the best ones. you can admit it.
i'm so fucking excited for Marvel: Zombies too i know that show is gonna be ELITE
so Spider-Man: Freshman Year is just gonna be another Spider-Man show i guess?? got me thinking it would be canon to the MCU
and i guess X-Men 97 is just a continuation of the 90s animated show so i'll have to watch that. it looks goofy and fun though
the Multiverse Saga. what a fucking power play
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aimmyarrowshigh · 1 year
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For the WIP Game, MCU - A Quantum Universe
Oooh, I'm excited about this one and hope that I really do actually find the time to write it once I finish Lent From Tomorrow (and probably Please Stand By?). I actually got the idea from an anon who messaged me last time I did a fic meme -- if anyone reading this is that anon, please tell me so I can credit you properly! -- but: ok.
So.
This is an Endgame AU where Thanos' snap Dusts either all men or just all of the male superheroes (haven't decided yet) but either way: all of the male superheroes are Dusted. So it's up to the woman superheroes to save the universe and bring back the other half of the universe and whatnot. Up in space, Captain Marvel finds Nebula and Mantis and they go to Earth to find out what happened. Natasha is leading what's left of the Avengers (so, uh, her, Wanda, and Maria Hill) and teaming up with Okoye, Shuri, and the Dora to do all of the humanitarian stuff that EG totally ignores but that we get hints that Nat's been coordinating during the Blip.
MEANWHILE IN SAN FRANCISCO, Janet Van Dyne and Hope contact eminent astrophysicists Jane Foster and Darcy Lewis because they think (idk some technobabble I will figure out). They decide to contact the lady Avengers and offer their help. Probably Katy is their lyft driver across the country.
Time keeps going while they build a new quantum tunnel, but they need more than to be able to enter and exit the quantum realm. They need to be able to traverse the multiverse.
Nat's like, "I know a brilliant scientist," and she contacts Melina and Yelena. Possibly there's a subplot about Madame Hydra Val and Powerbroker Sharon but idk. Something something Ten Rings Xialing.
Like twoooo-ish years into the Blip, there's someone standing outside of the Compound gates a la Scott Lang, but it's not Scott. He got Dusted. It's Kate Bishop and her martial arts sparring partner, MJ Jones-Watson. Kate claims to be the best archer left on Earth, if they need a new Hawkeye. MJ basically says, "I'm pretty sure I went to school with Spider-Man? I'm not sticky, but I'm good at aerial silks and martial arts, and also engineering, and I want to help?" Possibly Riri shows up with them, too, idk.
At some point Carol shows back up with Monica, Maria who DID NOT DIE, and Kamala.
The greatest minds of the MCU are all working on how to travel the multiverse to get the stones safely but it's not working. Science! is not enough on its own.
Enter Wanda's chaos magic. And maybe Agatha? Undecided. And maybe America? Also undecided.
So the women team up into groups to go to different universes adjacent to the MCU's main universe to get the stones, and no one goddamn leaves anyone for Peggy.
And possibly Nat and Yelena are who go to Vormir. Undecided.
Yadadada, they get the stones, build their own gauntlet, nobody betrays anyone because they didn't meet up with Old Nebula, Captain Marvel snaps because duh, and the menfolk heroes are back. Everyone rides off into the sunset, alive and with who they're supposed to be with.
Fin.
P.S. Except Vision is still dead, sorry Wanda.
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oldfangirl81 · 4 months
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Bucky: I'm glad you came. Can't imagine Steve approves.
Sharon: yeah, I didn't exactly advertise our shadowy unknown mission to my extremely sensitive superhero boyfriend. Especially since taken up with former Ms Madame Hydra over there.
Bucky: Be nice. Val's trying something new.
You know my ridiculous Stucky brain read who said what wrong the first time.
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swannscroft · 3 years
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kimorrow · 3 years
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OK HEAR ME OUT!
There were way too many cliffhangers in TFATWS for there to not be a second season. The ending just reminded me so much of the way Agent Carter s1 ended.
THERE ARE TOO MANY LOOSE ENDS!
(Also, could be just me but I think Madam Hydra and The Power Broker are working together and US Agent is an unknowing ally. And somehow Zemo will be included in this. But that’s just my opinion)
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lokigodofaces · 3 years
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So I saw people freaking out about Madame Hydra earlier today and I didn’t know Val from TFATWS was Madame Hydra in the comics so I thought people just randomly got obsessed with AIDA/Ophelia/Madame Hydra overnight but was down with that.
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nerdlytreasure · 3 years
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I remember when I used to be excited when my favorite comic characters would show up on the screen.
Now it’s more like
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sarcastictonystark · 3 years
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WARNING: BLACK WIDOW SPOILERS. DO NOT READ BEFORE YOU WATCH THE MOVIE.
I love how the end credit scene just made everyone in the theater start crying, and then gasp. It was so great to experience that shock collectively. But I'm so confused!! Why is Yelena working for Val? Why has Yelena become an assassin again? I thought she was going to go around the world to save all the other widows, not go back to being an assassin?? Also, I will be completely supporting Yelena in her journey if/when she shows up in Hawkeye, I will protect her at all costs.
//Listen it's great not needing to follow MCU stuff like a hawk anymore and get worried over everything, but this stuff? This Val nonsense? Madame Hydra in my MCU? It's more likely than you'd think and I Do Not like that.
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agentem · 3 years
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So TFATWS spoilers and possibly “Black Widow” spoilers.
I kept seeing people saying Madame Hydra is in “Black Widow” and I was like “who says?” And finally I got to listen to the podcast that covers it. 
Basically Vanity Fair says they knew about JLD’s casting for awhile. At least since 2019, when they mention an interview with her at the end of Veep. 
Originally she was going to pop up in a post credits in  “Black Widow” with Yelena Belova. The VF writer says it’s unclear if that is still in the cut that will come out later this year. (Aka your screencap of Wikipedia saying she is in “Black Widow” will not convince me it’s true yet since they can easily change a short post credits sting.) 
They are setting her up as a “Dark Nick Fury”. 
Which is cool. I can’t wait to see JLD and SLJ go head-to-head. Also kind of excited to see more spy stuff because maybe Sharon and/or Yelena could be in it too. I love my spy ladies. 
I am also pretty disappointed with Tumblr. Seeing some people mad that JLD is playing “Madame Hydra” when there was already a Madame Hydra on Agents of SHIELD. 
I had to look it up because, guys, that show was not good. I’m sorry. And that version seems to be based on Ophelia (Viper) not Val! 
You’re going to turn your nose up on an ELEVEN-TIME EMMY WINNER portraying “Dark Nick Fury” Val because you’re attached to a different Madame Hydra? 
Get it together, fam. 
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kelvintimeline · 3 years
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Redeeming John so the government just lets him do whatever he wants during a hostage crisis despite him being a murderer and having Sam and Bucky cool with him while ALSO having him work for Madame Fucking Hydra is such a fucking cowardly move.
Like... why redeem him then? So it’ll “hurt” more for Bucky and Sam when he’s full Hydra? Why would Bucky and Sam be okay with him? Why sacrifice THEIR characterization just for the “plot” twist that Val is Hydra two movies from now or one tv season from now?
Is the comic book reference worth it? Is having Bucky and Sam cool with him worth this?
This is so fucking emblematic of what is wrong with Marvel. Characterization and plot flow is sacrificed for comic book easter eggs and to set up new phases and projects. It’s lazy and it’s ugly
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Okay, for what I've seen people are thinking Sharon's a skrull? Which was my first thought as well, but I have another theory.
I think Sharon is Val (Madame Hydra) in disguise.
I refuse to believe Sharon is evil, especially with that “agent Carter” namedrop. Besides, why show the nanomask earlier otherwise?
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