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tvdlover101 · 2 years
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Damon Salvatore and Elena Gilbert
The Vampire Diaries 4x12
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laufire · 1 year
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it’s very convenient that Bonnie’s parents are lousy absentees so that Bonnie "choosing” to once again be the Helpful Witch for her ~friends is somehow seen as REBELLIOUS and STANDING UP TO SHITTY PARENTS, when really, they are pretty much completely in the right LOL.
the call at the beginning of the episode is pretty egregrious as well because a.) nah, he’s 200% right to put vervain in the town’s water, are you kidding me; and b.) he’s 300% right to say Bonnie is NOT “handling it” and NOT doing a good job of keeping the humans at Mystic Falls safe -if that was actually something she had set out to do, which, at this point in season 4, it definitely isn’t.
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marril96 · 8 months
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Delena + hugs
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evilcare · 1 month
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My mutual who just watched the show for the first time said that Kol’s death cursed the entire franchise. Well, I’ll be damned. 😂 'Cause everything after 4x12 quickly went to shit.
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eg515 · 2 years
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"Kol's irrational fear of Silas" sure babe, let's circle back to this in six episodes, when you have Caroline dig around in your chest with pliers, looking for a piece of the white oak stake that Silas made you believe is there. but irrational fear, sure.
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kmze · 1 month
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Thoughts on 4x01 - 4x12 again I wrote a novel. This is probably my least favorite rewatch half since S1 and it's because the stuff I liked I really liked and the stuff I didn't like I really didn't like. It kind of ebbed and flowed for me, I didn't like the first two episodes (they felt weird I don't know how to describe it) but then I liked Connor and the hunters mythology. I liked the Klefan team-up and the hybrid sire bond breaking with Tyler (I liked his plot the most of anyone) and obviously I liked that the show remembered Steroline existed and all the friendship and sober sponsor goodness. But I didn't like when the hunters mark turned to the cure and Silas because I honestly lost the plot on the convolution of that. I loathe LOATHE the sire bond stuff and DE in general and while 4x09 was a highlight the next three brought it back to not enjoying myself as much (I blame the lack of Caroline).
4x01
“I made a choice that I will regret for the rest of my life” see even Stefan knows that was a stupid ass decision!
Not to defend Matt but can the Salvatore brothers leave him alone like damn it’s not his fault. Especially Stefan like projecting much? Damon wanting to kill Matt so badly is tiring like what is even the point?
God the DRAMA over Elena deciding to transition or not became downright annoying.
Bonnie you need to listen to Grams and stop saving these damn people!
RIP the Council you were useful for one day and then you got blown up.
4x02
I don’t really see how the animal diet wouldn’t cause more duress since you have to kill an animal, as opposed to just drinking from a blood bag? IDK Stefan you need to maybe reassess your vampire training manual because this doesn’t seem to be a diet anyone chooses unless they have drinking problem. Plus the dramatics over Elena feeding and possibly killing someone come on man, there’s like six people watching her I think you can all manage if you do it in shifts.
Damn I forgot how hot Conner is *bites fist* and I love that he shots first questions later! Someone who gets shit done and actually shook the table around here!
Tyler is the only one around here actually willing to put himself in danger to cause the least amount of casualties. A motherfucking G!
I’m sorry but Elena told April to remember it was a beautiful service but like it wasn’t! Tyler got shot! I would have included that information.
Why did Damon start kinda breaking the fourth wall suddenly?
Between Stefan starting it off by listing people Damon killed and Elena mourning HERSELF this is the most in sync’ Stelena has been since S2 LMFAO!
4x03
These past few episodes have been so overly emotional and dramatic it’s a bit much for me. I think it’s because the show is making us “feel” Elena’s transition like we’re doing it along with her, but please show I don’t ever want to be forced to relate to Elena.
Klaus getting so excited to try and breakup a high school couple is both sad and hilarious. Like he is glowing at the thought!
Man Rebekah is RUTHLESS!
The motorcycle scene is so bad!
I know I get more of a buzz from this than most but the Steroline scene is really just a nice scene. There is so much self righteousness and postering going around in these episodes and finally someone is like “I need help will you help me” “of course” and it is so nice! Stefan gives her these heart eyes when she says she's good at it because of him that just make me melt. I don't even think it's about the boost to his ego, I think he just really needed to hear that he did something right. This is also such a huge moment in relation to Stefan because it's the first time he ASKED for help with his blood addiction. With Lexi, Damon even Elena they told him they'd help him and they all did a bit but Caroline was the first person he sought out help from. And he trusted her when she said he could come to her whenever he wanted and she wouldn't let him lose control. Because Caroline is a genius at self-control. I always liked how we got the line "you don't have to pretend with me" from Stefan to Caroline in 2x13 and now you see how Stefan starts to learn he doesn't have to pretend with Caroline either.
4x04
Even the voiceover recap is dramatic!!
Stefan’s “we’re not in a fight this is our resting phase get over yourself” comment was hilarious.
How does Caroline not know how hard it is Elena hmm not like she woke up all alone having no idea what was happening to her since NO ONE told her about the supernatural world before that! The only possible information she had was visions of Damon abusing her, raping her and feeding on her! Not like she didn't have to work her ass off to prove to EVERYONE she could do it (only Stefan had some faith in). Then after that she was tortured by her own father despite being "too good at it". Yep no idea how hard it is.
Klaus sitting at the bar with a glass of wine smirking at Rebekah’s failures should not be as funny as it is but I am DYING!
Klaus’ smile when Stefan figured out his motive, what a sap! At least he's using new methods to get his (boy)friend back now. Instead of ruining his life he's like "wanna manipulate people and be shady" the best way to Stefan's heart.
While I do enjoy the Bonnie/Shane storyline (mostly) I am immensely tired at how often Bonnie loses her powers. This never seemed to happened to the witches on TO... and of course we all know why (racism).
Everything about Damon in this episode disgusts me. When he basically described S1!Caroline as the perfect "feeding victim" I wanted to reach through the screen and stake him. Can't even enjoy Bamon crumbs during this time period.
Stefan manipulated Rebekah into giving up all the information after one conversation… I just cannot. If Rebekah wasn’t mostly indestructible there’s no way she’d have lived this long, she will give all her secrets away to the first person who shows her a modicum of warmth.
4x05
Elena is so out of the loop and I love it (because I am a HATER)
I'm glad Bonnie got to just vibe with Shane instead of being forced to help this hostage situation, good for her.
The Hunter plot is good, I do like how they have their own symbols and the tattoo only other hunters can see. It gets a bit too complicated when Silas and the cure get introduced but it was good while it was just about the hunters.
Matt and Jeremey getting April a vervain bracelet THANK YOU!
Farewell Connor you should have been Too-Hot-to-Die!
The cracks in Forwood are starting :( because Tyler is right, Chris was his friend and more importantly Tyler wants to keep everyone safe and values everyone's life not just those he believes are important. But Caroline doesn't believe that, she'll try to save everyone and she'll at least feel bad but she will always save her friends first. There's also the fact that she's already started picking Stefan's side over Tyler's which will come to a head soon...
4x06
Caroline’s grin at tricking Klaus LMFAO
They would make Elena be haunted by her first kill after telling me how SHE JUST CARES TOO MUCH and her compassion is her greatest weakness the last five episodes. I hate it here.
Jeremy being so eager to stake Damon LMFAO!! I mean can you blame him? You know how many problems would have been fixed if they killed his ass.
They make it the Stelena break-up all about Elena's feelings for Damon which... is not the full problem here. If anything the problem is Elena's feelings for Damon mean her and Stefan aren't in sync like they were in S2. Because when SE works it's when Stefan can be the ideal boyfriend who respects Elena's choices and always protects her (at the expense of others if needed) and Elena can uplift that. She'll even remind people of it, like Elijah in 2x19 or when she would remind Damon, like when she invited Stefan into the boarding house first and embarrassed Damon on the condition he follow her rules (and Stefan smiles smugly). I mentioned it in my 2x12-22 recap thoughts how Elena wants to have a relationship with both brothers, but it only works if Elena isn't in love with Damon. Because then the roles don't work anymore, and Stefan has more self respect than Damon and quite frankly has zero interest being a side piece. Because we KNOW Damon will be in love with Elena no matter what like he was in love with Katherine for 145 years (until he transferred that over to Elena) but Stefan can move on (and does fight me).
4x07
When Caroline is talking to Stefan about her disgust at Delena and goes “and you’re you” the way Candice says it and her body language is PERFECTION! You see that small part that feels a tingle for Stefan pop out for a second after she buried it when they became friends in S2 (it stays there until S5 IMO).
Klaus is such a dick lol, he knows exactly what’s going on (that Elena is sired to Damon) and he just gives Caroline another riddle.
Everything with Damon and Elena this episode (most episodes lbr) makes me ill so I'm just going to ignore it :)
The Klaus and Caroline scenes at Miss Mystic Falls are kinda cute, I liked when he was teasing her with the application lol. The hummingbird analogy was kind of like "what TF is he talking about" though. Also why didn't we get Caroline saying if she'd take the cure or not, feels like they purposely wanted to keep that lingering.
I do like how much shadiness is going on this season, like not really knowing Hayley's motives and now we know she's working with Shane. Stefan and Klaus' team-up and how that brought a lot of hostility to the trio and also makes Caroline a more primetime player.
Another precious moment! When Caroline is going on her pro-Stelena rant and she’s like “her and Damon” *shakes in disgust like her whole body icks over the idea* (samsies). Then Stefan does this d’aw look and shy smile trying not to laugh because Caroline is Caroline and just BEING HER makes him forget how crappy his life is.
Now one of my favorite eras begins aka "Stefan and Caroline figure everything out by the fireplace (and fall in love)" era.
4x08
Stefan is being more sanctimonious than usual and if it were any other character than Damon I’d be like "let's not throw stones from glass houses..." But since he’s Damon and he still doesn’t do the right thing after all this, I'll allow it.
The show tried to push the side bond as feelings but like that’s not why the sire bond is bad. It’s the lack of consent because you are forced to act based on what you’re told by one person and it prohibits free will. THAT'S THE PROBLEM! No one thinks Elena didn't have feelings for Damon before she turned we fucking know this.
The scene with Caroline, Elena and Bonnie drinking and partying in the Salvatore living room is very cute and funny and I love it and it sucks that every other interaction between them this episodes fills me with hate. The part where Caroline says "It's not your fault, Elena. Damon took advantage of you!" you really hear the fear in her voice.
Elena is a bit too intrigued watching the hybrids bow to Tyler...
I thought Stefan was going to say "because he's my brother" when Caroline asked how he could trust Damon and how utterly annoyed it was going to make me, his excuse was a least a little better than that. He was wrong of course, because Stefan never learns when it comes to Damon.
4x09
The first scene of this episode is… why? They just established the lack of consent with the sire bond and Damon and Elena are laying on top of a bed together.
Caroline looks ETHERAL (and yes the very petty part of me loves that she gets to look stunning while Elena looks dull and miserable even her hair doesn't pop like it used to *evil grin*)
The way Tyler says "you told HIM" AJSHBCFJSFHJ god I love this scene, and the way Stefan moves in front of Caroline to protect her from HER BOYFRIEND, god I love it. I love when two characters just straight-up do not like each other based on personalities and not plot contrivance. Because Tyler and Stefan have never gotten along and they would never speak to each other if they could help it but they have to, because they both care about Caroline. That's how you do a triangle. Love how Tyler threw in Stefan's face that he already got one of the hybrids killed so he doesn't owe him anything. Sterowood you deserved more.
The Klefaroline stuff is also so great, the little art critic remarks and Klaus saying "you've been dodgy and Caroline's been lovely which I've come to recognize as a tool of distraction" (took him long enough lol). I do really enjoy the Klefan conversation about loneliness (which was what Caroline said about the snowflake) and memorializing their dead. Then the remorse that Stefan and Caroline feel at leading Klaus to slaughter and then cutting to... Klaus brutally murdering 12 hybrids to a Christmas carol. This show!
Watching Tyler find all the dead hybrids... damn I just feel so awful for Tyler. He was just trying to help them and never really wanted to be the alpha and now he has to feel immense guilt over them trusting him.
4x10
I’m sorry Becks but getting mad at Stefan for his dirty tricks girl... maybe stop letting yourself get manipulated ALL THE TIME!
I do appreciate Damon shooting Klaus for Carol.
Man Shane can resist compulsion too why are these idiots still not learning that! Morons all of them.
The prospect of Rebekah ramming the cure down Klaus throat does give me a perverse amount of joy! Really would have loved to see him deal with that predicament MWAHAHAHAAAA!
Stefan is such a drama queen this episode. Look the sire bond is gross and the way Damon is using it to his advantage is gross but like... Stefan is mad at Elena having feelings for Damon because of the sire bond but HE KNEW SHE DID BEFORE HE LET HER DROWN! And again maybe you shouldn't have been so comfortable with your brother being in love with your girlfriend Stefan because it "proved their was a part of him that was human" or whatever bullshit he used to say.
4x11
I do love how sassy Stefan got once he detached from Elena, he’s so much more fun this way!
Even Matt is questioning Elena’s choices about Damon oh how the mighty have fallen!
Sorry not sorry but I’m ready for the Original family to leave for their spin-off. I don’t care enough to even understand their issues now it’s so zzzzzzz, Klaus is the only one who mildly entertains me and that’s only when he’s around Stefan, Caroline or Tyler.
I know he's just trying to aggravate Damon but Klaus saying "Stefan would never dream of hurting Elena" um sir we all know that is not true. You were on the phone with him when he threatened to turn her into a vampire and drive her off a bridge! So much so that you actually stood down!
For someone who wants to be human so bad Rebekah is obsessed with Ripper Stefan and I don't get it! Do you know what Ripper Stefan does to humans? He eats them! And not in the sexy way! I'm also forever over these vampires say they want to be human so badly when they clearly love their vampire powers.
Elena like “wanna commit genocide real quick” girl...
4x12
CTFU at Stefan looking so guilty when Klaus opens the door like he’s been caught cheating!
Two episodes in a row with no Caroline WTF I don’t deserve this!
I know Bonnie’s Dad literally appeared out of nowhere but he’s not wrong in basically everything he’s been saying. She can’t really protect the town like she says when she’s working in vampires' interest. And thank god someone put vervain in the water supply!
It’s kind of sad to watch Bonnie’s parents finally give a shit about her and started telling her to stop putting herself in danger for Elena. Because they are completely right with everything they’re saying and Bonnie just won’t listen now.
The Stebekah 80s “date” does a good job of showing the duality of Stefan. I think he’s being completely genuine in having fun with Rebekah and that it reminded him of his time with Lexi who always made him happy. But he’s also doing this to distract her while Elena and Jeremy try to kill her brother. And I like that he doesn’t have Matt dagger her because she was honest with him and he didn’t want to betray her after she did. But then he manipulates her into being back on his side to get the cure and to not be mad Jeremy and Elena killed Kol. Oh when he’s good he's good.
There’s so many mentions of burning Elena’s house down lol. They couldn’t wait to torch this sucker.
The Klonnie scene where Klaus is like "witch" and she gives him a death glare... they could have been a fire hateship man!
Bonnie’s face was like oooooo watching the triangle drama lol (samsies).
Lines that made me laugh:
Klaus: For future reference, one voicemail is just as effective as nine (this was an ongoing theme with Klefan and it was hilarious)
Stefan: *snaps Damon’s neck* You’re welcome (LMFAO all in the delivery sassy Stefan never leave me!)
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kiss-my-freckle · 19 days
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TVD Rebekah gets a bad rep. In TO I know she's a bit more appreciated. Damon would OFC sleep with her. Had nothing to do with Elena. He prefers vampire women (at least after s1) and he was looking to blow off steam, feel desired, and just have fun. He needed it (after Elena hurt him for no reason) and Rebekah needed it too. Why the Damon hate about it??? Stefan sleeping with her is similar. They have history and he was looking to move on. Stefan with her was a bit more calculated, hence why Damon outs him.
Rebekah is a huge parallel for Damon and Stefan. Damon had more intention, and he got exactly what he expected from Elena.
Rebekah tried to kill Elena at the open of 3x14. In 3x6, it was Esther who sent Vicki to kill her, so Esther was behind Delena's first aid scene. Elena nearly died by fire because of Esther, so Damon decided to make a point while making her jealous. He felt that if Elena can meet with Esther after Esther nearly killed her, and do so while expecting him not to care... then he can sleep with Rebekah after Rebekah nearly killed her, and do so while expecting her not to care. What's good for Elena should be good for Damon, period. Despite the fact that sleeping with Rebekah was all about Elena, Damon claimed he did it for himself because of her comment. "Elena. Did you get what you want?" Because she said she got what she wanted, Damon claimed to get what he wanted. That's why he lied to her about his reason for sleeping with Rebekah. Elena pisses off Damon, he's mad and has to get over it. He gets over it when he has sex with Rebekah because angry sex is good sex and quite the release lol. Damon pisses off Elena because she finds out he slept with Reekah. So then it's her turn to be mad, and her need to get over it. She gets over it when Rebekah abducts Damon to torture him because it's one thing to be mad at him, and another to be mad to the point of wanting him dead. It's at this time Stefan realizes she's in love with Damon.
Damon and Elena are so madly in love with each other... they're making each other mad lol
For Stefan, sleeping with Rebekah was solely about losing Elena, and he's quite ashamed of it. He has serious post-sex regret. He knew it would piss off Elena, so he tried to sneak out and keep it a secret. He wasn't trying to move on from Elena, but more or less biding his time because he truly believed the cure for vampirism would pull her back to him. A momentary need for pleasure is what I'd term their sex. He didn't expect Klaus to catch him sneaking out, and he's even more bothered when Klaus tells Damon because he knows he's gonna get outed for it. Stefan doesn't have the dual purpose Damon has, and I feel that has a lot to do with the parallel between them. Rather than making a point like Damon, I feel Stefan's entire parallel to Damon is the point. In 4x12, Klaus and Damon spend time in the cellar. 3x14 was Stefan's revenge against Klaus and his love for Elena. In 4x12, Kol tries to cut off Jeremy's arms. 3x14, he was breaking Matt's fingers.
In 4x12, Elena is helping Jeremy kill Kol. 3x14, Damon was killing Kol after he broke Matt's fingers.
After killing Kol, Elena finds out Stefan slept with Rebekah. 3x15, she found out Damon slept with Rebekah.
In 4x12, Elena's plan with Stefan was to sideline Rebekah. 3x14, Elena's plan with Stefan was to sideline Damon.
I consider it insanely important for fans to question Elena's thought process because I'm quite certain these parallels exist for a reason. I'm still working on my analysis post for 3x14, so I'll stop there.
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ywhiterain · 8 months
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Tvd 4x12
Love that Stebekah crazy sex ends in spooning. They’re both not that good at the whole no caring about each other thing.
Klaus totally listened in on their sex.
Lol at Klaus being like I was gonna make Kol suffer on my terms!!
Oh Nina you can give a bigger smile that that when seeing Damon. But I’m glad you don’t.
Love Elena’s look of jealous horror. Maybe Elena’s no longer in love with Stefan, but that doesn’t mean Stefan’s penis still isn’t hers.
And Bonnie’s side eye is funny.
Not big on Stefan mocking Damon and Elena with the sire bond.
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zalrb · 2 years
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Hii so I just started watching TVD for the first time and I was hooked purely because of Stelena. I've binge-watched the first three seasons and it's because of SE. I love them so much and I've been reading about what happens in later seasons and I just can't put myself through it. I love the show so much and I want to keep watching but part of me wants to stop before the breakup so I can pretend it doesn't happen. I love the characters of Stefan and Elena both so much and from everything I've read about what happens to them, I don't know if I could bear to see it happen.
As a SE shipper would you say continuing the show after 4x05 is worth it for the few Stelena moments or is it better to just turn in early?
Also do you have any other ships in other fandoms you'd say are similar to Stelena?
Honestly, you'll be really frustrated after 4x05, like there are episodes with the big SE moments like 4x19, 4x21, 5x04, 5x18, 6x04, 6x22 where like people will probably reference a lot and then there are the other smaller moments like in 4x10, 4x11, 4x12, 4x16, 4x22, 5x01, 5x02, 5x03, 5x06, 5x07, 5x19, 5x20, 6x21, but there is a loooooooot of bullshit in between and the quality of the show just gets worse and worse. So it's up to you.
In terms of other ships in other fandoms that are similar it depends on what you mean by similar so it's just best to look at my list of OTPs and "explain why you don't ship a pairing" which can be found in both the general TV masterlist and chemistry master list.
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useragarfield · 26 days
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Can you please gif the parallel of Stefan reacting to Delena and Conrad reacting to Jelly?
TVD 3x05 "Well isn't this cozy?"/ TSITP 2x08 "You guys went to Finch, huh, that sounds like a nice little romantic excursion."
"What are you doing here brother?"/"Didn't know if you were coming."
"Klaus is gone, but he's asked me to keep watch on you until he returns."/"I promised Laurel I'd get Belly home."
"By all means carry on."/"Relax."
TVD 3x14 "Easy, buddy. Don't want you doing anything stupid."/TSITP 2x08 "Don't waste your money, buddy. She likes these better."
TVD 4X12 "Stop it, both of you."/TSITP 2x08 "Don't be a dick."
"Now, why don't you tell her to calm down, Damon? You've managed to use that sire bond pretty well so far, haven't you?"/"I just have one more question. I'm sorry, guys. Belly, which one of us is a better kisser, me or him?"
"Leave her alone, Conrad."/*Punch*
yeah so uh, i don't really gif tsitp. so i'm really sorry! but hopefully you will find the right person for this,
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neworleans-ad · 1 year
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                   WHAT’S A GOD TO A NON-BELIEVER ?
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Lizzie breaking the sire bond to save aurora’s life and conspire against hope was a turning point for all . setting out to find the gods ( or at least one god ) to bend time back to a time when tristian is alive,  to when her father wasn’t broken, to when hope had her humanity and josie was still with her. 
                                        the saying goes : careful what you wish for .  
before hope managed to killed her, lizzie takes chronos’ hourglass and uttering only half of her wish, dropping the hourglass in the middle of the chaos happening, breaking it , Silence laying steadily against the stones of the dead in Lafayette cemetery as lizzie’s body hit the ground before hope disappeared . . . a week passing by before anyone realizes the dead are coming back .  .
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#𝑁𝐸𝑊𝑂𝑅𝐿𝐸𝐴𝑁𝑆𝐹𝑀  ⸻  is an appless tvd / to / legacies roleplay set after 4x12  with lizzie saltzman death as she broke chronos’ sand clock , time for the dead was reversed ,  brining back all the supernatural who had died .  plot arcs and events, as well as ic conflict, will set the stage for what happens within the rp .
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laufire · 1 year
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fun moment aside, it really hit me here how much the show's very perception of Caroline changes over the seasons, iykwim? like, here they are "making fun" of Caroline, in a way (and about how scary she and her mad management skillz are xD), but it's warm, and more importantly, in a way... respectful? idk if that's the right word but basically: Caroline's dignity is never in question, so to speak. just compare that with any of the times Bonnie and Elena talked about Caroline behind her back in season 1, where you could practically breath the disdain in the air from your screen.
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laufire · 1 year
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very, very few lines in this show have angered me as much as Damon claiming he’s ~stepping up and “being the bad guy for a reason”.
you’ve raped THREE WOMEN on screen you fucking waste of space. what was the reason. how did that benefit some ~greater good~. and how are people in the audience still thinking there’s any kind of truth to this fucking line.
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laufire · 1 year
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still marvelled that this show straight-up said "yeah our lead(s) are going to commit genocide to MAYBE get their hands on something SOME of them, SORTA wanted. and they're also going to claim this is the best, most ethically sound plan on sight." Elena. gurl. GURL XDD
(sidenote but this is also why I always saw some similarities between Elena and Hayley -who did a more low-key equivalent when she orchestrated a mass murder for a distant, lukewarm promise of getting some info on her bio-parents. these are high-risk, high-reward kind of women xDD. and don't get me wrong: it's one of my favourite things about them! it's the idea that they have any sort of moral high ground here that makes me want to tear my hair out LMAO)
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laufire · 1 year
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where are these show's awards for best commedy.
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eg515 · 2 years
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"You know, the thing I love about the modern age is music any time you like." and this is why Kol is my favourite Original 🥰
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