Ok but what if I made the Tusken more based off the Bedouines and actual human beings instead of the weird alien/racist thing that goes in canon?

It's probably been around a while and I just haven't encountered it before now, but the "yes everyone would have murdered a village down to the last child in that situation" take is a new one for me! Like would I have been justifiably upset in that situation? Yes. But what would I have done in that moment myself? Probably run. Granted I am not a person with a ton of unfathomable powers and a weapon I have spent a decade training to use that can cut through literally everything, but still. The argument that "well yeah EVERYONE would've done exactly what Anakin did" kinda falls apart when you think about it for two seconds because wow is that not what I would do when faced with being alone in the middle of an entire community of people who just captured and tortured my innocent mother for several weeks.

But it's also VERY hard to argue that this is even how everyone would react to this situation in Star Wars.

They literally have an entire arc where they explicitly have Obi-Wan's old nemesis who killed Obi-Wan's Master come to attack the home planet of someone he loves, captures her, and then murders her right in front of Obi-Wan with Obi-Wan helpless to save her. He then goads Obi-Wan into reacting in anger and Obi-Wan's reaction is to refuse to engage. He very explicitly refuses to even attack Maul because he knows he'd be reacting in anger and he's literally seen exactly where that leads before and overcome it. So when Obi-Wan IS put in an extremely similar situation, he chooses not to just go out and attack everybody as a result. He doesn't give in to his anger and fly to Dathomir to go kill every single Nightbrother on the planet as a form of justice for Satine, which is what this person is arguing is how literally anybody would react when placed in that situation.

Reva Sevander has every reason to despise Anakin, more reason than Anakin had to despise the Tuskens. And yet when she goes after Luke to try to kill him after she fails to kill Anakin, that becomes a line she can't cross. More accurately, it's a line Reva CHOOSES not to cross. So when put in that situation with all the same anger and grief as Anakin had with the opportunity to get her vengeance by killing an innocent child, Reva makes the active choice not to do what Anakin did. So while the impulse obviously was still there with Reva, she was fully capable of choosing not to go through with it. And Reva's been soaking in Darkness since she was about 8-10 years old, getting tortured and broken as an Inquisitor, surrounded by the corpses of her people, with zero support of any kind that she can turn to for comfort or guidance. Anakin had spent the last 10 years in a warm loving environment with people who cared for him and still had most of those people available to him to support him in this time of grief. And yet when faced with the same choice, Reva chose to pull back and let Luke live, but Anakin just kept going and massacred an entire village. It's a CHOICE, not an uncontrollable urge.

You know the only other person I can think up off the top of my head who DOES canonically have a similar reaction to Anakin's?

Aleksander Kallus.

Kallus explicitly states that he leads a genocide against the Lasat as vengeance for ONE Lasat killing a unit of Imperial soldiers in self defense. An entire species is nearly wiped out of existence because Kallus decided to let his anger control him.

But there are NUMEROUS other characters in Star Wars who we see lose people they love and proceed to not go on a murder spree against innocent people and children as a result. And the ones that do are pretty explicitly villains whose actions when in those situations are used to showcase just how villainous they are. Which indicates that it's NOT a normal reaction because otherwise it wouldn't really mean anything as a villain identifier. If it's something just about anyone would've done, it's probably not that villainous. The point of it NEEDS to be that most people WOULDN'T do that, even in justified anger.

Context: There was an early draft of one of the film scripts that included Darth Sidious bribing the Tusken Tribe to kidnap and torture Shmi.

No Character Bashing in the reblogs. It's a heavy subject and one of contention, but please keep all discussion of Anakin's actions civil. This is about Palpatine, not Anakin.

* this includes the kidnapping, the start of the war, Anakin's uncharacteristic visions, and the moment of death itself

"Other reasons" also means "more than one of the reasons in this category."

what i like about the din djarin/tusken comradery is that they come from cultures where showing faces is taboo. and they respect each other greatly. and also i do believe din djarin has hearing loss so the signed language is helpful. also the fact that din djarin decided to learn their spoken language too... despite the havoc that's gotta cause his vocal folds. and they are all proud warrior peoples. And they don't show skin.

idk this is so basic of an analysis and i put 0 thought into it but i do just. i enjoy it. mandalorians and their tusken besties <3

Note: the Tuskens and Paz Vizsla tied in their previous round, so they will be considered as one person until either eliminated OR forced to go against each other again in the finals.

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Something small that I appreciate about The Mandalorian is how Din takes time to communicate with and learn from the Tuskens, rather than just shooting them and moving on. He negotiates with them and absorbs the wisdom and knowledge of the land they have to offer, later teaming up with them to kill the krayt dragon. This is also something we see in the Book of Boba Fett, although the argument can be made that this show's portrayal is a bit more reflective of a white savior complex. The treatment of the Tatooine natives as nothing but violent, inhuman creatures always rubbed me the wrong way, and the more nuanced view of their cultures and practices is much appreciated. They have societal structure, religious and spiritual beliefs, you know, like people. Because they are people, and it's good to see them treated as such after being treated as blaster fodder in previous portrayals.

Memes straight from the tusken groupchat

since Tuskens don't have a written language, do you think poetry and dancing are one and the same? do they choose their words carefully so that signing and speaking the words evoke the same emotions? are the two forms complimentary like having audio and video in sync for a movie? are there poems not meant to be spoken at all, only signed in private, to an audience of one or two or three, enraptured and unable to look away from the dance of a poet's hands?

Grogu was very excited to visit with the Tuskens again. They were really good at living in balance on Tatooine. It wasn’t easy, that was for sure. Not enough water. Not enough critters. Not enough of anything other than sunshine. And there was too much of that. 

There was another thing there weren’t enough of… fingers for communicating in Tusken sign language. Their language was predicated not only on sounds and hand movements, but finger spelling and other signs that Grogu found very hard to manage. He was hoping that he could find his Tusken friend and she would explain what he could do. 

After all, other people who communicated with the Tuskens must have the same problem. And considering all the people that didn’t care for the Tuskens and tried to hurt them, he was sure that some of them, over the years, had lost fingers, maybe even entire hands. How did they make the sign for ‘Caf’ for instance? He was sure that required more fingers than he had on either hand. 

When they reached the camp site, Grogu searched for his friend. She was with the women, but she must have heard the commotion when Din, Grogu and Boba Fett got there. Grogu was happy about that. He greeted her in both the aural language and with the sign for ‘Hello There’. She returned his greeting.

Grogu wasn’t sure how to bring up his question. It was kind of awkward. He didn’t want her to think he was complaining about something that she’d learned from the time she was very young. On the other hand (no pun intended), he didn’t want to get laughed at either. 

He signed, “Fix. Not enough.” Then he pointed at his fingers. 

She said, “Huh?” 

“Fingers. Not. Enough.” He tried again, going slower.

“Not a problem.” She signed and spoke to him. 

Grogu was confused. He was sure there were signs that he couldn’t do with just three digits on each hand. 

“How?” He asked, as he put his hands against hers.

“Count air. Use last finger. Point or say. Help?” She smiled at him.

“Show me?” He asked.

“Okay.”

They spent the next half hour, or however Tuskens really counted time, practicing different words and trying them out on each other. Grogu was very happy by the end of the impromptu lesson. He’d learned a lot of good information and a very important lesson. If you don’t know, have the courage to ask a person for help who does know what to do. 

Din and Boba walked over to them because it was time to head on to the next stop of their tour of the desert (which was something Grogu also didn’t understand). 

“Hey, buddy, how ya’ doin’?” Din asked, crouching down so he wasn’t looming over Grogu as usual. 

“Doing great! Learn lots. More fingers now.” Grogu signed to him in Tusken. 

“How did you manage that?” Boba asked him, chuckling. 

“Learned from friend.” Grogu smiled as he waved at his Tusken friend who was running back to her tent. She was shy around Ba’buir Boba. He was a legend among the Tuskens.

“It’s good to learn from your friends and getting extra fingers is a bonus. Very handy.” Boba laughed, as both Grogu and Din groaned at his joke. Family.

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Did you know that in legends tatooine settlers were literally poisoning Tusken water sources and setting traps for Tusken children?

wow disgusting just came across an essay on ao3 that said the tuskens deserved what they got from anakin because they tortured shmi.

children don't torture. he killed the children.

that was straight up genocide.

Note: the Tusken child has no apparent guardians, so it may be deduced that the raising of children is an "it takes a village" affair.

I started watching the book of boba fett with my bestie and now I want a series entirely about Tuskens

Sorry for throwing this idle musing as you as I'm unsure if its in your wheel house exactly, but my mind has been somewhat consumed by an idea recently.

Namely, the idea of 'what if' there was a survivor from the Tusken massacre. Maybe an adolescence out and far from the village or the like who comes back in time to put the gist together but not be seen by Anakin.

So, pawning everything their settlement had left, they collect the funds to basically try and chase down the perpetrator and thus causes the truth to come out.

I think it was inspired by some post talking about how "Padme can't tell the Jedi what he did, then he might be kicked out of the Order" and going "So!? Actions have consequences!"

t occurs to me this wouldn't even necessarily be a 'good' AU, in the sense that this magically fixes Anakin. It may well take him to Palpatine's side sooner, but also shift up how the Jedi are viewing things so they can't be taken by surprise or who knows.

Sorry for rambling.

No worries, I really don’t mind at all. I don't really get asks so it was kinda fun. I do apologize for the late answer, however.

Although from what we see about the Tuskens, I find it difficult to imagine an individual doing something like this, mostly because the people seem really attached to the land and the planet, not exactly one to go or even have the means to leave the planet. I’m not entirely sure that a Tusken would even entertain something like that. That being said, I’m generally would be interested in any such way to reveal Anakin’s crime.

            What’s really interesting, would be how this individual would actually find Anakin. I could see a connection between finding/figuring out that Jedi use lightsabers and then working from there. And since the war probably would have started by then, Anakin would probably be gaining ground, traction and attention in the media, due to Palpatine’s influence, of course. Which would both make it simultaneously harder and easier to track him down. Easier, because he has a lot of media attention. Harder, because he is always on the move.

            However, if this Tusken individual thinks about things and is smart about it, he’d make connections and go straight to the Jedi. And it depended on the state of the war at the time and if they can get enough attention (with everything that is going on) to pass on their knowledge. And if Palpatine knows about it, yikes, who even know what he would do with something like that. Frankly, I personally do not think that Anakin is a good General overall, even if he is good with troopers and on-the-fly plans (I think his work a bit more with smaller groups instead of tactics and strategies with entire legions but maybe that’s just me) and even though he has a ton of limelight on him, I honestly do think the Jedi would pull him out. Massacring an entire village – that is dangerous and horrifying. Like, if he could do that to people, who knows what he would do in the battlefield.

            Another interesting thought is how it would affect the propaganda Palpatine has set up. Is Anakin the wounded hero that people sympathize with and have renewed vigor to end the war? Or are the jedi keeping him away from winning the war for [insert ridiculous reason here]? It could spin either way, although I think Palpatine would use a mixture of both himself.

            Maybe it would push Anakin further to Palpatine, maybe, but then again, depending on how far in the war they are in, the Jedi may have enough autonomy to keep Anakin with them. The Jedi Culture, at least aspects of it, are a lot like therapy, but as we all know, Anakin isn’t entirely embracing it and like therapy, this healing does not work if you are not into it, if you are not trying and doing the work. If the Jedi could get Padme really on their side, that may help things, even though Padme is not innocent in this either, pretty much complicit after the fact. At least, considering she knew about the massacre and told no authorities.

            Back to the Tusken individual. I imagine that the Jedi would probably at least attempt to do some sort of retribution (eventually, like I said, with the war, unsure how they would be able to juggle everything. There is just SO much) in the form of whatever the Tusken culture has. I personally do not know of it off the top of my head. If there is something written about this. It all comes down to culture and values. The values of the jedi and the values of the Tuskens are probably pretty different. Not necessarily wrong, just different from each other. And since the Tuskens are the ones that Anakin has wronged (specifically this survivor), I think the Jedi would try to balance their rituals and ideas to some extent with their own.

            I know people use Ahsoka’s situation as the Jedi “kicking people out” but I think that is one; generally very rare and two; her situation was extremely, extremely specific. It wasn’t a “kick you out forever on the street”, it was an “expel from our organization/rules so you can be tried for a crime that killed civilians outside of our justice system”. On a logical level, it makes sense, and I am absolutely sure there are real world situations and applications we can compare it too. (Total honesty, Ahsoka’s Wrong Jedi arc is actually kinda confusing with (and I do not bring this up often) some poor writing and planning as well showing an extremely one sided and emotional view, without anything else). I don’t think Anakin would necessarily be kicked out but I do think the Jedi would try to get him to go through a process to atone for what he had done and heal from the darkness that was lurking inside him. And after that (or during, whatever) he would have to make a choice between being a Jedi and being married to Padme because doing both just does not work for several reasons.

            And we all know that Anakin does not really want to make that choice.