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gaydelgard · 2 years
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like yeah i dont condone his actions on any level but at least hes really really funny
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revanhaed · 5 months
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a little more on hesperia and his huntress 🦋🏹
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starags · 7 months
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I’m the only one who saw intro-Gabriel and instantly went ‘he looks like anime protagonist’? And I’m absolutely charmed about color palette?
Dark, redish and pinkish colors when we see his past and his struggles,
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then purple when he is mourning, (plus the way Adrien's green reflects on him?)
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and finally light purple and blue after he find his purpose?
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Red and blue make purple, so I guess the mourning part is like the time between his worst and his best, his past and his future, and I love it so much.
Forget main universe, I want series about whatever is happening in this paralel universe - I have so many questions, that needs to be answered.
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theluckiestlb · 11 months
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I literally do not care if they say he’s a widower or it’s simply poor coping skills—unless the man were suddenly possessed by satan himself—no amount of grief can turn someone so callously cruel. I simply do not buy the Jekyll and Hyde narrative. 
We’ve been told Gabriel had been a normal parent once...then underwent a drastic personality change after his wife expired. 
???????
Adrien’s autonomy and consent have been continuously violated since his inception. He’s unaware of the fact and unsurprisingly blames himself for bending to Gabriel’s will. 
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His son is crying, on the verge of breakdown—literally begging—and Gabriel is completely unfazed by this distress.
Just as Colt Fathom came to despise/blame Félix for his illness, I suspect Gabriel harbors some degree of resentment towards Adrien due to Emilie’s passing. He may not be conscious of it, but there is a clear undercurrent of spite fueling his behavior. 
The series has drawn explicit parallels between the senti-twins. They mirror each other’s pain and story. Félix has experienced cruelty firsthand and I don’t think he would go through so much effort to free his cousin/brother for naught.
(Also, before anyone boards the Emilie-hate bandwagon, please note/recall Félix’s reaction to her portrait. He has strongly held convictions, especially with respect to sentibeings and misuse of the peacock miraculous. I don’t believe he’d feel such fondness toward someone complicit in Adrien’s mistreatment.)
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Comic I drew while losing my mind these past couple months
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ninadove · 18 days
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The only way they could mess up Adrien’s S6 redesign is to make him look even prettier, even more proper, dressed in even more white. This child needs to be himself, in whatever style that may be.
Then again, I suppose an even more polished appearance could be a narrative win if it is meant to illustrate how Gabriel continues to haunt him… Hmmmmmm…
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logically-asexual · 7 months
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Nathalie was woken up by the feeling of movement next to her. She opened her eyes slowly, taking a moment for her vision to adjust to the dark. She finally turned her head when she heard a gasp to her left, and found Gabriel asleep, reclined on her bed. She remembered they were talking earlier, she must have dozed off at some point and he unintentionally followed.
He kept shifting in place. At first Nathalie thought he might be cold, since he fell asleep sitting over the covers, but then his mouth opened and closed, as if he were trying to speak. He was frowning, too, clearly distressed by some anxious dream.
She didn’t know what to do. She didn’t want to startle him by waking him up, but she couldn’t stay there doing nothing while he suffered. Carefully, she sat up and took off the glasses that were awkwardly positioned on his face. His gasping slowly became muttering, but Nathalie still couldn’t make out what he was saying.
Soon she could hear syllables. “No,” and “-lie” repeating the most. “I’m,” or “Em-,” “Don’t” and eventually, “I’m sorry.”
He was dreaming about when he lost Emilie. Nathalie didn’t know how to help with that. She gently ran her fingers through his hair in an attempt to soothe him. It seemed to work, judging by his features losing tension, and his breathing becoming less shallow. “It’s okay,” she whispered. “You’re okay.”
He relaxed more, but his eyes were still scrunched up. She brushed the loose hairs away from his face and noticed how the skin smoothed in her fingers’ wake.
“Nathalie.”
She pulled her hand away as if it had been burned, afraid that she’s woken him up. After a pause, nothing else happened, except for his breaths now sounding like sniffles.
“‘m… so-sorry,” he repeated. “N’thalie.” His face was still angled towards the ceiling. He was still asleep.
Her hand went back to caressing his face. It felt wrong, like she should have asked someone for permission. But the darkness and silence that surrounded them encouraged her to forget about everything but the man in front of her. She leaned forward and pressed a kiss on his forehead, and, as if a spell was broken, his shoulders slumped and his frown disappeared.
The stillness lasted only a moment, before he turned to his side, now fully facing her, and trapped her in a warm embrace. His chest pushed against her and pulled away in deep, even breaths. The low amount of energy she had had available at this time in the middle of the night was running out, and his peacefulness was becoming contagious. She let her head relax into his shoulder and her mind drift off.
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Danny Phantom and Miraculous are the same show. Want proof? Okay!
Main character is just Spider-Man with a magical girl transformation
Will they won't they hell
Worst finale known to man
Interesting concept that was ultimately failed by the creators
Character who's just Flash Thompson without the nuance
A child becomes the mayor for some fucking reason
Goth girl with a wacky eye color
Iconic rogues gallery
Main villain is just Norman Osborn with a magical girl transformation
Time travel episode where one of the main characters turns evil and destroys the world
Main characters are somehow everybody's first childhood crush
Fanon >>>>> Canon
Secondary love interest(s) that get mistreated by the narrative
Villain what blasts you with a guitar
Villain what has a flying pirate ship and some kind of connection to the guitar one
Villain what blows kisses at you
Villains all have simple and obvious motivations
Fandom is obsessed with DC crossovers
Main character gets late game power upgrades for seemingly no reason other then the creator thinks it's cool
Main character has a green and black color scheme
Main characters parents are constantly trying to kill him and the fandom/official material are split on wether an identity reveal would make them stop or not
Video game episode
And this one's a reach but most of the supporting cast gets powers at some point
I rest my case :)
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theartofnieriel · 1 year
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✨🎄 Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! 🎄✨
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reblog, don’t repost. thank you
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spacevixenmusic · 9 months
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I love when cartoons disappear on hiatus for a few months after a heartbreaking revelation only to return with the most deranged silliness you've ever seen
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pisoprano · 7 months
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Thinking about Emilie’s glass coffin and how spacious it is and how you could fit a full grown man in there with her and how Gabriel could have been taking full advantage of that fact…
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Questions that Nathalie should really have asked herself before season 3 happened
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sonia-kate · 7 months
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Watched the Miraculous Paris special and
Opening narrated by Gabe? Yes, please! I want a whole spin-off! Or better, Gabriel's backstory, since Gabi Grassette, through treasure hunting up to right before the show starts! Maybe not even a tv show but a comic, they said they planned to make one about that, didn't they?
They... they really called him Betterfly in the English dub ;-; I mean, cool because he's just as punny as his son but come on...
Isn't that the thing that Monarch 1.0 was tied with in Destruction? Gimme that real quick and we'll fix Gabe in no time
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Hopefully this Chekhov's gun will actually fire unlike some other ones we had in the show (cough cough Chat Noir and Hawkmoth being related cough cough Adrien finding Felix's monocle cough cough etc.)
Ok, won't comment on every single thing, but just the things that hit me the most
The pun cat fight was great. Need more of that
In alternate universe, Gabe moved on after Emilie's death and Adrien didn't. Local Adrien said that his friends were much help in that so it makes you wonder what would happen if instead of keeping Adrien in the dark, Gabe would just reveal whole thing to him? Of course, before Adrien even tries to get out to school. We could have had super-villain duo of father and son ^^
When Shadybug and Claw Noir became good and their costumes changed... Honestly, it was such a downgrade imo. Especially with Shadybug, she could have at least keep the hairstyle! She was so gorgeous!
Gotta admire how Gabriel got beaten in the chase through time, that same night he got cataclysmed and still had strength to go on villaining for the rest of the night. He really is a man of focus, commitment and a sheer fucking will. Most impressive
And he actually tried to visit Adrien, just how does one explain a hand-shaped burn of 3rd degree on your forearm... Ah, screw it, I'm still salty over how they characterised Gabe in season 5...
Also, when Gabe is the hero here and even got to make the opening but there's not an ounce of him in the ending card, ffs
Also also, alterGabe said that he had gotten the miraculous in the past from the Supreme to make their dream come true (cough SentiKids) and that the Supreme gives the miraculous to the powerful people... What if that weird rich people secret society is somehow connected to that? Maybe they promised Gabe extra help if he got something for them too, like we saw with Tomoe? Hopefully it won't a detail we'll completely forget about ;-;
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uptoolateart · 1 year
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Sentimonsters vs Frankenstein's Monster
My six-year-old says Adrien can't be a sentimonster because he's too nice...and I'm back here with another essay.
I think some of our views on sentimonsters are wrapped up in our linguistic connotations for the word 'monster'. It has an interesting origin, probably related to words like 'demonstrate' or 'remonstrate'. Monsters are creatures that indicate or show us something...maybe about ourselves.
When Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein, she used 'monster' to refer to something unnatural, made by man rather than God. This has precedent in older tales such as the minotaur, who was monstrous for being an animal-human hybrid and therefore also unnatural, not as the gods intended. Usually in such stories, the monsters are hidden, the way we try to hide the 'monstrous' parts of ourselves.
When the sentimonsters were first introduced into Miraculous, they seemed 'monstrous' in the horror sense, e.g. Feast. When senti-Ladybug showed up, we saw that 'monster' could refer to any living being created by a human rather than being naturally brought into this world by whatever means you believe we end up here.
As soon as you start thinking of Frankenstein, the parallels just keep coming, so here we go!
Gabriel vs Victor
The most obvious parallel is that of Gabriel Agreste vs Victor Frankenstein. Victor first decides to create his monster after his mother dies. Grief and love drive him to rebel against nature and reanimate the dead.
Similarly, Gabriel is driven to find the miraculous after the death of his wife. He too seeks the means to reanimate someone. Gabriel has also created life by unnatural means. At the very least, this is Felix and Kagami. I believe Adrien is also a sentimonster. (If you know the answer via leaks, please don't confirm this in comments, as I am watching in order and avoiding all spoilers.)
In the novel, the monster kills Victor's wife. If the full senti-Adrien theory holds true, then he indirectly and unknowingly killed Emilie.
In his grief, Victor drops out of society and sinks deeper and deeper into his project, hiding away in his laboratory, fueled by ambition. Gabriel too dropped out of the public eye and went into his lair, obsessed with his own ambitions. Obviously neither of them ever heard any zombie stories, or they would have known it never goes well.
Family / Acceptance / Appearances
The key journey throughout Frankenstein is the monster's search for love, family and acceptance. He is rejected by his creator - whom he calls 'Father' - just as Adrien is not truly accepted by his father Gabriel.
The monster seeks a new family, finding one living in the woods, on the fringes of society, as if this is the only way to find true warmth. The family consists of a brother and two sisters, and the monster wishes to be their brother. One sister is blind and befriends the monster based on his kindness. It is only when the others finally meet him that he's rejected, because they are repelled by his appearance. Interestingly, the brother is named Felix....
Probably if the monster had looked like Adrien, this family - and everyone else in the novel - would have been won over. In fact, Miraculous makes such a point of describing Adrien as 'the image of perfection' that it could be seen as a purposeful contrast with Frankenstein, as if Gabriel learned from Victor's mistakes.
The novel suggest that if you're ugly on the outside, it can make you ugly on the inside...but only because people will react badly to you and hurt you so much that you will be bent and twisted with resentment and rage. In Miraculous, we have beautiful people like Adrien, Felix and Kagami. Society reacts to them well - so what does that make them inside? Felix is perhaps the most interesting part of this because he's quite ugly inside, despite looking just like Adrien on the outside. The show suggests that appearances can be deceiving, a message we see again and again through the theme of masks and hidden identities. It also suggests that we can be more than we were 'made' or groomed to be - a point we'll come back to later.
But let's remember that everyone on Miraculous has a shadow, a hidden darkness - the monsters they don't want anyone to see. These come out when people get akumatised. It's love and warmth that bring us back into the fold, as it were. Perhaps if Frankenstein's monster had a Marinette, he would have had a different fate, just as Ladybug saves Adrien from being doomed to an eternity as Cat Blanc.
Loss of Innocence / Kindness and Forgiveness
Frankenstein's monster has the appearance of an adult (sort of) but he is a child, a newborn seeing the world with fresh eyes. Similarly, Adrien begins Miraculous sheltered from the world, getting his first taste of society when he enrolls in school.
In Frankenstein, the monster seems to be the only character who demonstrates compassion and forgiveness of others' transgressions. There is a kind of childishness to it, a naivety. Kids are always shocked when they get hurt. They have to learn to put up boundaries and protect themselves. The adult world is, unfortunately, full of selfishness and hurtfulness and corruption (along with goodness!).
Frankenstein is a story populated entirely by adults, so there really is no reprieve from the cynicism and bleakness. In Miraculous, we see this from the adults, too - but there are other kids, and many of them are basically kind and loving. Even so, Adrien is arguably the most forgiving, patient, compassionate character. We could see this as part of his innocence, and the loss of that innocence is another similar theme. Both he and the monster slowly have their eyes opened to the cruelties humans are capable of.
They both also learn what cruelties they are capable of - although Adrien hasn't truly discovered this yet, because Marinette has hidden the Cat Blanc episode from him. He needs to know so he can face, accept and deal with his own inner darkness. Otherwise, it will always be waiting in the wings for him.
The Search for Identity
A crucial feature of Frankenstein was the monster's search for identity and a path. He was a blank slate, unsure who he was. And can we even say 'he'? He was made from male body parts but he never grew up as a boy - he never grew up at all. He just entered the world fully formed (sort of) and was expected to insinuate himself into adult life. Who even was he?
We see this mirrored in episodes like Wishmaker, where Adrien reveals what a blank slate he is. I won't go into this here, because I talked about this in depth in my Kagami analysis after Perfection. If he learns he's a sentimonster, it just compounds it - although I won't go into this here because I've spent 107,000 words going into it in one of my current fics...let's not add that to a Tumblr post...! Suffice to say, he will have a lot to process.
Fate vs Free Will
At the novel's conclusion, Victor Frankenstein is killed by his own creation. It's poetic justice - or karma - or simply inevitable. Mary Shelley subtitled Frankenstein 'A Modern Prometheus Story', referring to the old tale of Prometheus attempting to steal fire from the gods and being punished for getting above himself. I suppose we are all waiting for Gabriel to receive his punishment, and there is an expectation that a lot of it has to come from Adrien himself,. Indirectly, it has, because it was his cataclysm that caused Gabriel to start falling to pieces. However, crucially, Gabriel was the one who used that cataclysm on himself, which sets Miraculous apart from Frankenstein in a big way.
Last night, a friend asked me: 'Does [Adrien being a sentimonster] not cheapen his whole journey about breaking free from the abuse? Because he can't, because it's magic...versus it just being that it's hard emotionally when it's someone you love.'
I think this needs to be looked at symbolically. A big part of Frankenstein was the exploration of the idea of genetics (a new concept in that era) vs upbringing - nature vs nurture. Did the monster ever stand a chance? Similarly, did Adrien? Or Felix? Or Kagami? Are they - and therefore we - all victims of programming? Can they / we ever break free of that programming? Do we get some kind of exemption card if we never break free, because we were doomed to destiny?
I'll liken this to other genetic conditions. I have Tourette's Syndrome, which means there are a lot of things I can't do - like underwater swimming. But you know...maybe I can, because I used to think I could never drive, too. Then, years later, I decided to take lessons and discovered that it's perfectly safe for me. I found ways to overcome the disability.
We can apply this to all kinds of people - think of athletes and musicians missing limbs, for instance, or Beethoven continuing to compose music even long after he'd gone deaf. Humans are capable of the most remarkable things, if they want it enough.
We all start with a kind of programming - that genetic code, our family set-up, and so forth. What cannot be programmed is our emotional and behavioural responses to that programming. When our emotions conflict with our programming, it's painful. Overcoming that programming is hard.
We see Adrien being controlled by the ring, forced to obey his father. However, he still feels things beyond that. In Risk, he tells Marinette he keeps wanting to tell his father things but he feels a block in his mind. There is a line he can't cross. We can say he's been made this way.
Taken symbolically, a lot of kids feel this way. Parents don't need magic rings to control and manipulate their children or demand that they be the people the parents want them to be. Adrien's struggle is actually the same struggle so many teenagers go through. This is one of the key aspects of Miraculous I have always related to.
If Adrien is indeed a sentimonster, he has been designed (groomed) to feel deep discomfort at opposing his father, to the point where it feels as if he's attacking himself. To break free of Gabriel's control and abuse is to discard everything he was raised to believe he was. He will truly be a blank slate, starting over entirely. Without Gabriel dictating who he is...who is Adrien Agreste? He will be a newborn again, in a nearly adult body - just like Frankenstein's monster.
As someone who grew up in a household of abuse, I went through all of this myself. I don't think the sentimonster angle cheapens this journey. I think it is a fantastical idea that serves as an allegory for something very real that many people go through.
And as we grow up...well, there's only so much that you can blame on your father. Frankenstein's monster may have had every reason to hate his creator, but they were still his hands around Elizabeth's throat, and it was still him who killed Victor in the Arctic. Adrien can blame Gabriel for plenty, but crucially in Cat Blanc, when he found out the truth and was prepared to cataclysm his own father, he held back at the last second. He didn't cross the line the monster crossed, and that's because of free will.
They may both have been programmed in some way, and that's the fate side of things that can be likened to genetics. But we're more than just a jumble of DNA, and Adrien is more than the magic I believe created him. So is Felix, and that makes every bad thing Felix has ever done 100% on him to atone for.
We could get tangled up in thoughts like: 'Maybe Adrien was just made so good that he could never knowingly cataclysm his father,' or, 'Maybe it was the block in his mind that stopped him.' But I don't believe this. Fate decided that cataclysm would happen anyway, but it was Gabriel who did it to himself.
We all have choices and Adrien made the crucial one - the choice not to become like his father. Because ultimately, Frankenstein poses the question: 'Who is the true monster in this story?' The answer, as we all know, is Victor himself...although his creation becomes monstrous as the story progresses. In the same way, Gabriel is the monster of Miraculous.
The difference is that Adrien makes better choices and is surrounded by the love he needs to keep him on a better path than Frankenstein's monster. Through his friends, especially Marinette/Ladybug, he is finding the family the monster wanted so desperately but never had. The monster concluded that he needed Victor to make him an equally monstrous companion because no one else would ever accept him. Adrien does not need to resort to this.
Adrien may be a 'sentimonster' but he will never be a 'monster'.
Please no post-Perfection spoilers in the comments :)
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Gabriel: You lazy, ungrateful, thing! Can’t you do anything right?!
Adrien and Nooroo, looking at eachother trying to figure out who he’s talking about:
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"You see, citizens of Paris, the world is like a pancake. Once you mix the ingredients together, you can't undo it. If you make blueberry pancakes, you can't just magically change them to banana pancakes. But if I, Hawk Moth, seize Ladybug and Cat Noir's miraculous,
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