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patheticbatman · 4 months
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Part One
I’m very proud of these dolls, and I’m also leaving them at my parents’ house, so I did a little photoshoot with some books as background so I can have nice pictures of them.
Each book is one that is based on their fairy tale, they exist in some form in that universe, or I genuinely think that character would read it. It cannot be their origin book.
Also, they ALL have to be books I have read. If the other books are more like companion books though, then I disregard that rule. They cannot share series either.
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First up is Snow White with Fairest, by Gail Carson Levine. Funnily enough, I read this book before Ella Enchanted. I love it though! I always remember the singing and weird-reading-to-make-the-audience-laugh game :).
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Second is Cinderella with Cinderella is Dead, by Kaylynn Bayron, and a little toy dog, because the Disney version has a dog. It’s a wonderfully revolutionary and queer take on a world that supposedly worships Cinderella, but actually uses her memory as an oppressive tool. Like an unwilling martyr.
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Third is Alice with After Alice by Gregory Maguire (the dude who wrote Wicked). I have other Alice in Wonderland adaptions, but I haven’t enjoyed the others like this one. If you like ratfics, you may enjoy After Alice.
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Fourth is Wendy with Peter and the Sword of Mercy, by Dave Barry and Ridley Pearson. I debated on whether to do the first book of this series or not, but Wendy only appears in this book, so I leaned toward this one instead. Out of all my Peter Pan adaption books, I like my one about Hook as a boy in Eton best. But only Wendy’s dad appears in that, and I don’t think she would read it, so I went with this series instead. I wrote a book report about the story set in the desert Kingdom when I was like 9, I loved it a lot.
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Fifth is Aurora with While Beauty Sleeps, by Elizabeth Blackwell. It’s an inventive take that I enjoyed quite a bit. Explores how expectations can be used in your favor, etc.
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Sixth is Eilonwy, with The Princess, The Crone and the Dung-Cart Knight, by Gerald Morris. I know The Black Cauldron is based on a book series, but I’ve only read a snippet, and I don’t have a copy of any of the stories anyway. So she gets to have a late - Arthurian novel.
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Seventh is Ariel (she has six sisters so this pleases me) with The Hothouse Princesses by S. A. Hemstock. The author wrote some of the best Steven Universe fanfic, so I bought her first published story when it came out. Idk how it isn’t a bigger hit - it’s about a princess who was raised by peasants, gets discovered, wants to go back, and instead gets shunted off to a misogynistic, colonialistic, colorist princess finishing school, where she finds out some serious conspiracy shit about fairy godmothers. Anyway, Ariel often felt oppressed by her dad and curious about the Human world, so I imagine it would catch her eye.
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Eighth is Belle with Lindworm, by Jenny Prater. Coincidentally, this is another case of me reading a superb fanfic writer’s work (Batfam this time) and instantly snapping up their OG work. I have a book of short stories that had a more direct BATB parallel story, but I was trying to stick with Novels. In any case, this is the story of the maiden who married the Lindworm, and what the Royal family does once they have to reckon with the nations of the dead princesses.
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Ninth is Jasmine with the School for Good and Evil, by Soman Chainini. Her character really only appears in the prequel, but I wanted to acknowledge this really great series properly. I read the entire thing this summer, and I love its thematic approaches. In any case, I feel like this series’ approach to beauty, freedom and other dichotomies would pique her interest.
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Tenth, we have Gabriella (Ariel’s mermaid BFF) and her Sign Language interpreter Olly. I have her human form. Anyway, I decided she might enjoy Wonderstruck, by Brian Selznick. It has Deaf characters and lots to show about the Human World, which I supposed she might enjoy. I found it quite interesting as a kid, and like with all the other Selznick books I own, I used to color all the hair, clothes and eyes in, lol. Listen. I had a lot of time on my hand and consistent access to Sharpies XD.
I’ll link the other parts to here when I post them!
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ladyminaofcamelot · 9 months
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Squire's Tales as Babylon Bee headlines
The plot of book one:
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Jean Le Forestier:
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Sir Kai, preparing for feasts:
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Gaheris and Gareth:
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The Princess, the Crone, and the Dung Cart Knight:
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Grifflet:
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shadowlineswriting · 1 year
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Morris, again
Anyone else feel like we’ve been on the Ms forever?! 
Here’s the second half of the ten-book series, The Squire’s Tales.
The Princess, the Crone, and the Dung-Cart Knight: This book is about the time Guinevere gets captured and Lancelot has to come out of hiding to rescue her.
The Lioness and Her Knight: Yvain, sometimes known as The Knight of the Lion
The Quest of the Fair Unknown: Technically I guess this is about Galahad, or another version of the Holy Grail quest. Really, though, the main characters are made up, so that makes it a little tough to let you know where this book fits into the rest of the Arthurian legends.
The Squire’s Quest: Of all ten books, this is the only one I don’t enjoy reading. And that isn’t due to the writing style, because there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s because this isn’t actually an Arthurian legend at all. It’s a Greek one. I’m always a little confused about why this book even made it into the series. 
The Legend of the King: About Mordred and the fall of Arthur. Morris does a great job wrapping everything up (which is a tall order, since the ending in most of the legends is quite devastating).
I still love this series, but I’ll always enjoy books 1-4 more than 5-10. Gerald Morris is a fantastic writer and the series as a whole is wonderful. It’s just that the first four books have, in my opinion, a lot more plot than the remaining six (especially considering that the first four books are roughly the same length, then the final six are longer...).
Anyway, these all stay! 
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"The Squire's Tale" by Gerald Morris
“The Squire’s Tale” by Gerald Morris
I really don’t think there’s any way I could write an objective review of this book. This series has been one of my comfort reads since possibly elementary school. I remember visiting the library while staying with my grandmother one summer and finding “The Princess, the Crone, and the Dung Cart Knight” (which ended up being like the sixth book in the series) on the shelf. But, the way the books…
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peregrin-tookish · 4 years
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Lancelot: I think we’re missing something.
Sarah: Cohesion? Teamwork? A general sense of we know what we’re doing?
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dawnfire360 · 4 years
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Twenty minutes later they met a knight, on foot. He was soaking wet, and three brightly dyed feathers that once must have waved jauntily above his head were stuck to the side of his helm like drying plaster. One of the feathers, crimson in color, had bled dye in a pinkish line down onto the knight's shoulders. As their little cavalcade approached, the walking knight removed his helm and stared at them. "Gawain?" "Good morning, Griflet. You've...um...been bathing?"
The Princess, the Crone, and the Dung-Cart Knight, by Gerald Morris
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androgynouscardinal · 6 years
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Sometimes a family is you, your four dads, your neighbor, a faery, and the Queen of Camelot
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forthegothicheroine · 3 years
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I don't know if you've had this ask before, but I can't find it, so: I don't suppose you have any recs for really good Arthurian adaptations? I try to read the older texts but can't get into them, and the adaptations I've come across are in the 'I am Mordred' vein. (Apart from T. H. White, but I've read that.)
I can't blame you for having a hard time! The old texts are an acquired taste, to say the least (and I'm definitely no fan of Malory!) The most accessible of those is probably Sir Gawain and the Green Knight; I read the translation by Tolkein, which was a lot of fun. (You don't need to have read it to see the Green Knight movie, but as a Gawain fangirl I'm of course into it!) Same goes for The Wedding of Sir Gawain and Dame Ragnell, one of my favorite Beauty and the Beast stories. Those two poems together are what made me Team Gawain, out of all the knights!
What really got me into this whole thing was the musical Camelot and the movie with Richard Harris. This is my Arthur. This is the king I fell in love with. It's loosely based on TH White, but I like it better- the plot is a lot more concise, and while it's still not the most flattering depiction of Guenevere, it's a lot less openly contemptuous of her than White was; she actually gets a really sweet meet-cute with Arthur! For a trippier movie that covers more of the story, there's always John Boorman's Excalibur, which attempts to compress all of Morte D'Arthur into a couple hours. I think this is the adaptation that started the trend of merging Morgan and Morgause, which upsets some people but I find very understandable, and Helen Mirren as Morgana absolutely steals the show!
For books, I'm a big fan of the Squire's Tales series by Gerald Morris, another Gawain superfan. This YA series shows the glory and then the fall of Camelot, often (though not always) through the eyes of Gawain's mysterious squire Terrance. My favorites in the series are The Ballad of Sir Dinadan and The Princess The Crone and the Dung Cart Knight, but start at the beginning and read all the way through for the full narrative- they're all fast reads! If you want to get into I Am Mordred-style stories about one particular character, there's a heartbreakingly tragic Mordred in The Winter Prince by Elizabeth Wein, and a gritty detective Kay in Idylls of the Queen by Phyllis Ann Karr. If you want to read more direct adaptations of Mort D'Arthur, I would recommend the series Arthur Dies at the End by Jeffrey Wikstrom, an extremely irreverent retelling that's much more readable. (One volume is called Sir Tristan is Just Awful.) I'm sometimes into Malory adaptations and sometimes not- I wish more adaptations in general didn't feel bound to the Mayday massacre just because it was in Malory, it wasn't in most of the texts- but these are very good.
I strongly recommend the podcast Myths and Legends in general, but in particular I love their King Arthur episodes. They follow the Mort D'Arthur story, which once again is not my favorite, but they do it in entertaining detail with lots of depth of character. It's pretty harsh on Merlin, but hey, he got all of TH White to build him up, he can take it!
Finally, I would be remiss in not mentioning The Great Pendragon Campaign, an old rpg supplement that runs through the plot of everything from the pre-Arthur era to the fall of Camelot. I don't always agree with the choices they make of what to include, but it's an attempt to combine all the 'canon' sources into one continuous narrative. It's available on drivethrurpg.com as a pdf.
Followers, add anything you'd suggest!
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I love all ur arthurian posts so! A question. If you were given the chance to make your DREAM arthurian piece of media, tv show, movie, book, etc. What would you really really love to see done?
I have two answers to this question---an embarrassing answer, and a non-embarrassing answer.
The non-embarrassing answer is that I would love to see the Grail Quest adapted for the 21st century. I go back and forth on what that would look like---a standard adventure plot? like Green Knight, a journey from the real into the rarified and imaginal/spiritual? a drama about sons, sins of the father, and glory? I don't know! I think there's a lot of cool decisions that could be made which I would support wholeheartedly. 
Mostly I just think that the grail quest is essentially a sacred bastard, a welsh virgin, and the knight of the round table who drank the most “respect women” juice making their way towards something that transcends human knowing. And I think that deserves to be a story.
.................the embarrassing answer is that I read Gerald Morris' YA novelizations of Arthurian legend at a very formative point in my life, and so really what I want is an adaption of "The Princess, the Crone, and the Dung-Cart Knight" (a YA version of Troyes' Lancelot, the Knight of the Cart) or better yet, "The Savage Damsel and the Dwarf" (a YA version of Malory's Sir Gareth). I think they’d make great films, and I would be very charmed by them---that’s what counts here, right?
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What are your favorite books? 🖤
the bloody chamber and other stories by angela carter, the hdm series by philip pullman, the birth of venus by sarah dunant, weaveworld by clive barker, circe by madeline miller, the complete stories of leonora carrington by leonora carrington, night at the circus by angela carter, the great gatsby by f. scott fitzgerald, the adventures of tom bombadil by j.r.r. tolkien, stardust by neil gaiman, the last unicorn by peter s. beagle, the haunting of hill house by shirley jackson, mimus by lilli thal, the princess the crone and the dung-cart knight by gerald morris
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fairytaleandfanart · 3 years
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More art for Gerald Morris's Squire's Tales series, what a surprise!  This is my third attempt at the three girls from "The Princess, the Crone, and the Dung Cart Knight." Which tells the tale of Sarah, a vengeful girl looking for a knight who was responsible for her mother's death.
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yetanotherbuffyblog · 4 years
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The wedding episode
The wedding!
The wedding is finally here, and everyone’s tense: the bridesmaids because of the bright green dresses they’ve been assigned, the engaged couple because of finally going through with this and all the planning required, the Harris family because they don’t get along well with Anya’s guests, and so forth. But on the wedding day, right before the ceremony starts, an old man appears claiming to be Xander’s future self and shows him a vision of the future, depicting a troubled marriage that ends with a violent disagreement.
This causes Xander no end of grief, and he disappears for a while. Buffy is left to try to stall while Willow goes out to look for Xander and bring him back before anyone discovers what’s wrong. It only lasts so long, and Anya finds out, only to run into old man Xander and discover he’s not old man Xander at all--he’s just some demon that used to be a guy that Anya wrecked in her vengeance demon days, and to get back at Anya he came and ruined her wedding. 
They fight him and kill him, but when Xander comes back it turns out that he doesn’t want to get married. He’s decided that even if the future he was shown wasn’t real, he’s scared it might come true anyway, and he doesn’t want anything like that to happen to Anya. So he just leaves, the wedding’s off, and Anya’s old boss offers her a job as a vengeance demon again.
Huh.
Spike also arrives at the wedding with a date, obviously trying to make Buffy jealous, which she does call him out on. She does admit that it works, but while she does still have feelings it doesn’t change the breakup, and he and his date leave before the drama really gets started.
Notes!
-I’m not sure how I feel about the wedding being called off. On the one hand, it’s not like it’s out of nowhere. We’ve had quite a bit of foreshadowing that there’s something off about Xander and Anya’s relationship, something they’re not really facing, even as far back as the beginning of the season. And so getting married with addressing or fixing those issues is a recipe for disaster, which I’m glad Xander realizes. But just calling it off also feels as if the writers of the show wanted to have the drama of a wedding storyline without actually writing a married couple. The drama of a certain kind of relationship without actually dealing with that sort of relationship.
It reminds me of how so many comic book characters have weddings teased, but never get married (COUGHBatmanRebirthCOUGH), or have those marriages retconned away (COUGHOneMoreDayCOUGH) because the writers think it’s too boring for heroes to be in a stable marriage, or like having a bunch of buildup going nowhere because Drama. And it’s a bit frustrating.
-I do feel bad for Spike’s date in this episode, given she’s just being used as emotional guilt tripping. And being used was exactly the reason Buffy dumped Spike--it’s not fair to use someone in a relationship. Spike apparently didn’t learn that lesson? Maybe he did this time.
-The cover story they went with for the demons at the party was that they’re circus performers? That’s… pretty weak, especially since a lot of them have clearly not-human attributes. Given that this is Sunnydale, and Xander’s going to be marrying Anya, I would have thought someone would have told at least his immediate family that Anya’s side were mainly supernatural beings? Then again, Xander’s parents are kind of terrible so maybe it’s not worth telling them because it would have made things worth.
-Like gosh, Xander’s dad is terrible. Which isn’t NEW, per se, but him constantly taking excuses to go and bother the demons and try to rile them up was incredibly infuriating.
-Also, before Buffy stalls by juggling, everyone is sitting there bored? And I though, “Huh, yeah, this was more of a thing before smartphones, yeah?” Because yes, people would still be bored in those situations, but at least nowadays there would be more entertainment in your phones, reading, or socializing or whatnot. YMMV on whether or not that’s a good thing, because you’re not socializing with the people around you.
-This wedding is obviously not in a church, I don’t think? With all the demons around, I guess that makes sense, but it was going to be performed by a pastor, which I would figure might be a bit triggering for the demons? Although again, demons in Buffy seem more extra-dimensional than necessarily Satanic, so maybe they don’t care, or they find the whole thing amusing.
-In the bad future that’s shown to Xander, one of their kids isn’t his? And I’m wondering what the fudge that’s about?
-One of Xander’s uncles has drafted a caterer as a date, a woman who is closer to Buffy’s age than his own, and she’s clearly uncomfortable with this? And this is kind of played as a joke, but it’s honestly quite terrible and horrible and I want to beat this man with a pipe. No! Do not make light of a woman being creeped on by a sleazeball!
I’m just saying this bit did not age well.
-Anya’s boss gives a present, which has some kind of living thing in it with tentacles? Is that a pet? Or some kind of delicacy? More importantly, does Anya get to keep it? Who knows. 
-Oh hey, Sarah Michelle Gellar can juggle!
-Xander’s dad suggests to Buffy that they have a quickie? And that’s gross? Thankfully, Buffy threatens to rip his dick off and he backs off.
-Probably should have known that the wedding might not be fantastic since it was thundering outside.
-I watched this episode on the anniversary of my brother’s wedding? Not sure where I’m going with that, but it was kind of weird.
-How does a human become a demon, exactly? Anya did it, and the fake future Xander did it too. Apparently it’s something that can happen, I’m just wondering HOW. And out of curiosity, what if it happened to a Slayer? Food for thought.
-Everyone is remarkably cool with Buffy and Xander killing a demon dude in the same room as the wedding, and perfectly willing to let the ceremony continue with his body getting cold back there (Willow was hoping it would disappear, but it didn’t, so she suggested covering it with flowers).
-Even if we accept Xander’s reasoning for calling off the wedding, he just leaves without bothering to explain to everyone what happened, so that Anya has to tell the crowd that the wedding’s off and presumably explain why they all have to go home. Which is a dickish thing to do.
-I’m currently reading a Gerald Morris book (The Princess, the Crone, and the Dung-Cart Knight), and there’s a line where a character says something like, “Maybe I didn’t truly love her, but I loved her as much as I was able to understand love,” and I’m not sure that applies here, but I just want to throw that in and ask if you think this applies to either Anya x Xander or Spike x Buffy? Or neither?
-Buffy admitting that she saw that couple as a sort of hope spot for what she could achieve with her life is… disheartening, because even before it was clear that they weren’t a model relationship. But they were there, and I suppose that counts for something.
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ladyminaofcamelot · 2 years
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Ariel: *hugs Sarah*
Sarah: What was that?
Ariel: Affection
Sarah: disgusting.
Sarah:... Do it again.
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wot-in-the · 5 years
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the squire's tales is turning out to be such a fun series. they're quick reads, full of adorable characters, and are basically one long arthurian fanfic. i've read 5 of them in the last 4 days before bed.
at some point over the last couple years i read savage damsel and the the princess, crone, and dung cart knight. didn't remember anything from either, so rereading with context is super fun.
my understanding is that the last one is really heartbreaking (these are arthurian stories we're talking about here, so of course they end in tragedy) and i'm not ready. :(
highly recommended for a light, memorable read.
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loverlylight · 3 years
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I got a copy of The Princess, the Crone, and the Dung-Cart Knight for my birthday (which is the best Squires Tales book hands-down), so I decided to reread it a little before work but I had to take a break to remind y'all how much I love Sir Kai and his siblinghood with Guinevere. (As much as I enjoyed The Sword in the Stone movie as a kid, I will never forgive Disney for what they did to Kai.)
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shadowlineswriting · 7 years
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Morris
If you know me at all--and this far into the book challenge, I’d like to think that you do--you know that I love the stories of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table. They’re a fantastic blend of character development, plot twists, history, sometimes fantasy, and, of course, chivalry. Always chivalry. When I went to college for my Bachelor’s I had a degree emphasis on Arthurian legends. At one point in time I owned almost 30 volumes of Arthurian text. Incidentally, so far during this book challenge I haven’t gotten rid of any of them, so I suppose that’s still how many I own. 
But what, you may ask, got me started on King Arthur in the first place?
When my older sister and I were in middle school, we used to hang out in the library a lot (surprise, surprise). The library wasn’t very big so between the two of us we figured we could read every book in it. She was the first to stumble across The Squire’s Tale, by Gerald Morris. She read it and laughed. And laughed. And laughed.
The Squire’s Tales is a collection of 10 books that take the most classic of Arthurian legends (Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, Tristan and Isolde, Guinevere and Lancelot, The Lady of the Lake, The Fisher King, The Holy Grail, The Knight of the Lion, etc.) and tell them for young adults. Morris does this in a brilliant way. He keeps all of the chief characters from each of the legends, but he does one key thing to tie them all together: he gives Sir Gawain a squire.
See, Gawain is kind of a big deal when it comes to the Round Table. He’s with Arthur almost from the beginning and stays with him until the bitter end. But in all the legends, there’s no mention of Gawain having a squire. That’s very odd. In fact, it’s practically unheard of for a knight of Gawain’s caliber to go without a squire. So Morris found that gap and filled it with a young man named Terence. Terence is the common figure in most of the books. He’s the primary figure in books 1, 2, 9, and 10, but he does make an appearance in them all. He’s funny, but that’s no surprise since all the books in the series are funny,
And these books are hilarious. If I had to make a list of my Top 10 Favorite Series, The Squire’s Tales would be right on up there with Narnia and Middle-Earth. Morris writes in such a way that the stories are simple and easy to follow, and yet somehow, he manages to incorporate quite a bit of sarcasm. I shall give you an example.
One character, Sir Kai (Arthur’s foster brother and seneschal) is not known to be an agreeable character. He’s very gruff and short-tempered, so for the first few books people despair that he will ever settle down and be happy. Here’s what happens when he does:
“Sir Kai glowered at the crowd around them, then turned his fierce face back to Lady Connoire. ‘Well then,’ he said, ‘I’ve something to say.’
Lady Connoire raised her chin and met Sir Kai’s gaze.
‘I can’t make flowery speeches,’ Sir Kai began, ‘and I wouldn’t even if I could. I won’t whimper at your feet like these callow puppies that call themselves knights these days, and I don’t write poetry or play the damned rebec. I don’t intend to change my manners or my way of life, but if you’ll have me, Connoire, I’d be obliged if you’d marry me.’
The incredulous silence that struck the watching crowd was so profound that Piers could hear the peep of a chickadee in the distant forest. Lady Connoire’s expression did not change. Taking a deep breath, she said, ‘I don’t like flowery speeches, and if you ever make one to me, I’ll just laugh at you. I despise simpering poems, I hate the squealing of a rebec, and we’ll see whether you’ll change your manners or not. I’ll marry you.’
King Arthur, who was still supporting Sir Kai, said quietly, ‘I am not completely certain whether I have just witnessed a proposal or a challenge, but I wish you both very happy.’“
In case you can’t tell from that excerpt, Morris also manages to write awesome female leads! And all the books carry this humor throughout.
Oh, I suppose I should mention that the books are:
The Squire’s Tale
The Squire, His Knight, and His Lady
The Savage Damsel and the Dwarf
Parsifal’s Page
The Ballad of Sir Dinadan
The Princess, the Crone, and the Dung-Cart Knight
The Lioness and Her Knight
The Quest for the Fair Unknown
The Squire’s Quest
The Legend of the King
One other thing I love about these books is that they have many teaching moments, which is a hallmark when writing for young readers. Not many authors can truly pull off some real life lessons in a fantasy tale, but Morris does it stupendously. Whenever King Arthur knights someone, he says, “Be ever true to your God; protect always your neighbor; honor always your king.” Words to live by, y’all.
If you want a more specific example, this series is full of sentences like, “Belief isn’t about facts. That’s knowledge. Belief is what you know without facts.”
The first half of the series is my favorite because the second half takes a few more liberties with some of the stories. That being said, I think it’s also tougher to read the second half because the legends of King Arthur do not end well. Think about it--Arthur dies with no legitimate children, meaning there’s no real heir to the throne. Furthermore, Arthur was amazing because he managed to unite Britain (for the most part), so when he died, Camelot died with him. There was no one to carry on the legacy. And unfortunately, the legends do have one major theme in common. Arthur dies fighting his own son, and the stories almost always end with Arthur slaying Mordred and then going to Avalon to die himself. It’s a sad end to a wonderful set of tales, which makes it tough, but Morris knew it would be difficult when he started writing it. In fact, he put off writing the end for almost twenty years. But all stories must finish, of course. At least he did a fantastic job with this ending!
The books are smart. They’re true to the older stories but put their own unique spin on each. They’re funny. And they’re timeless. These are books that I’ll read fifty years from now and I guarantee you; I’ll still be laughing.
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