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prideprejudce · 4 months
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I just watched the godfather trilogy for the first time & I swear this isn't bait but I was wondering if you had any opinions about the women in the movie(s)? I don't want to be like "these movies are sexist/misogynistic" but I also wonder if there's something to be said about how the women are portrayed? Like personally I thought there was an added layer of tragedy, in the second movie especially when Michael struggles with his dad's legacy & he goes to his mom for advice but she offers so little & then dies like man... what if there was more of her perspective... was it intentionally done, that by ignoring or dismissing the women in these men's lives it contributed to the uh, tragedy of it all? Especially with Kay, how her character progresses in the first two movies & the choices she makes. Or if it's just what women are "reduced" to in these types of stories & it's just me (maybe missing the point as well) that saw it as an addition to the other tragedies/losses?
I think it would be unfair to simply label these films as "sexist" when they reflect the period that it was set in extremely well. It would be like saying that Pride and Prejudice was sexist because it was set in a time when women couldn't inherit their family's land and titles. Well duh, it was a sexist society! That's why it's so fascinating to watch this family scramble to find husbands for their daughters while the second eldest rebels against her gender constraints!
Actually, for a movie that mostly surrounds men, there are a lot of dynamic female characters in The Godfather with actual depth and character development. Coppola doesn't make his female characters' background accessories with blank faces and no personality. They are dynamic human beings with their own sorrows and desires. Even the most minor characters like Sandra (Sonny's wife) get a scene where it's made extremely apparent that she knows that Sonny cheats on her frequently and that she has a lot of built-up resentment in their marriage for it.
The movie also has a lot to say about traditional gender roles and how it provided some women with protected lives behind their husband's achievements while forcing other women into a cage of miserable submission to their husbands. On one hand, we have Carmela, the matriarch of the family who is the traditional wife and mother figure. She seems to have had the luckiest marriage out of the bunch because even though she was in a traditional marriage, her husband respected her and loved her. However she also willingly ignored the reality that Vito built a criminal empire and therefore doesn't really understand Michael's internal struggle with his father's legacy and losing his own humanity. She kept herself at arm's length to the criminal side her whole life and therefore doesn't understand how someone can lose their humanity or their family. In her era, family was EVERYTHING no matter what your husband is or does.
On the other hand, there is Connie, who is married off to a wannabe gangster who viciously abuses and cheats on her. And even though she's the Don's daughter, nothing is done to protect her from her abusive spouse. Why? because also in that period, women essentially belonged to their husbands. Even Carmela quickly reminds Sonny to not interfere with their marriage because it's no one else's business. Connie is trapped in her own personal hell built by a society that restricts women in their own households, which Coppola shows the consequences of (RIP Sonny)
And then there's Kay - the essential "Modern American Woman" who is thrown into this chaos world when doom and gloom savior son Michael makes her his wife. Unlike the other female characters (including Apollonia as her character foil), Kay cannot look away from Michael's criminal life like a wife is taught to. Kay was not raised as a traditional Sicilian housewife. She tries to be one for years, but she can only stomach this world for so long before she actively turns her back on it and ends her "role" in it by aborting her child and divorcing Michael. She can almost represent how modern feminism slowly began seeping its way into society where women no longer have zero agency over their lives and bodies. Instead of continuing to get pregnant like the dutiful wife for Michael to get his next son, Kay eventually said F That I'm done bringing more kids into this nightmare
The Godfather series as a whole is about change. New Dons replacing the old ones. Power shifting inside a family. Sons getting stepped over for other sons. Selling illegal liquor and gambling to selling drugs. Trying (and failing) to make an illegal business into a legitimate one. The change in women and their roles in that world also changes too which is why I like the film so much. It speaks on so many layers of society and how it grows and changes
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leavemeslowly · 2 months
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Theo James made an excellent point which may get lost because of a wild ride that the show offers. He explained that his character, Edward, gets corrupted by power and violence.
This dark theme is neatly deepened throughout the show and very well resolved at the end. Think about Eddie’s transition from a captain striving to avoid unnecessary border conflicts to a drug lord always having his way. It takes a really unsettling turn. Explored before, famously in the Godfather, the Gentlemen’s new reimagine serves justice to this trope.
The point of the story is that they are not gentlemen. It is just a cover they exploit to justify their horrible deeds.
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aroaceleovaldez · 4 months
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i stand by that a better, more sensible, and more intriguing plot for TSATS would have been, instead of retconning literally everything:
Bob is dead (because he was very explicitly absorbed/killed by Tartarus Himself in House of Hades, alongside Damasen), and nobody is going into Tartarus to save him. He made his sacrifice and is gone. However. Remember how the Titans, including Bob, were just kind of kicking around for several years? Particularly. On a cruise ship full of mortals. And Bob happened to be kicking around in general for an extra year versus all the other Titans. And he mythologically sometimes has a mortal demigod son who partook in the Calydonian Boar Hunt (Dryas of Calydon). Yeah.
So turns out, Bob/Iapetus leaves behind a demigod (demititan?) child. And because Nico was pretty much his only friend, he named Nico his child's godfather. And while he's not being left in charge of the child, as a son of Hades and godfather to this kid, Nico is duty-bound to fulfill Bob's last will and go find this like 2 year old to make sure they're safe. So Nico has to undertake this very unusual quest (that raises many questions, such as "demititans are a thing?" and "DOES THIS MEAN THERE'S POTENTIALLY MORE-?!" and "SHOULD WE BE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS?") and is kind of freaking out because. He's the son of Hades! He's notoriously bad with living things, and animals, and definitely small children! Even if he does find this kid and assure they're safe, he is the last person who should be undergoing any kind of quest involving even potentially having to babysit. Fortunately, his boyfriend is the human embodiment of sunshine and calmness and good vibes, and also once helped a nymph give birth, so he feels Marginally More Confident in theoretical demititan babysitting and offers to come along on this Epic Journey of Figuring Out What In Hades' Name Is Up With This Demititan Baby Business.
Proceed with wholesome epic shenanigans quest of Nico and Will scurrying around trying to locate this random OP baby while Nico has an existential crisis about the nature of his powers because he doesn't want to let Bob down! Both for Hades Kid Honor Reasons and because Bob was his friend! But what if he's destined to fail this quest just because of who he is? Because he's simply not built for hanging out with the living/mortals? And Will reassuring him that He Will Probably Not Traumatize The Weird OP Titan Baby And It'll Be Fine, and simultaneously getting a peek into the weird other life Nico leads hanging out with immortals much more than the average demigod, which Nico considers his norm. Bonus shenanigans of both of them getting caught off-guard and culture shocked from where each other's respective worlds (Nico's mostly-immortal versus Will's mostly-mortal) cross over and learning to navigate those for each other - Nico finally starting to make some mortal connections and get glimpses at modern mortal American life, and Will trying not to get his brain literally incinerated while Nico's happily casually catching up with some of his old friends who happen to be literal gods.
#pjo#riordanverse#nico di angelo#will solace#solangelo#long post //#LISTEN I JUST THINK WE DONT NEED TO BE RETCONNING THINGS WHEN THERE IS A HIGHLY INTRIGUING MYTH RIGHT THERE#listen. *listen.* Iapetus in myth has a demigod child? and we're in the series? that's all about demigods?#and had titans running around for 4 years? some primarily on a giant ship mostly full of mortals?#and Iapetus himself was running around for closer to like 5 years?#I AM JUST SAYING. that is enough time. and the right conditions. that there are perhaps demititans now.#that alone is a fascinating plot set-up that ties in basically all previous series inherently and has a reasonable starting point#of *course* Nico would be named Bob's child's godfather!#of *course* Nico would consider it a very important personal duty to see out Bob's final will and go on some quest about it!#and under those conditions it makes *perfect sense* for Nico to want to bring Will along! and that he would be very helpful on said quest!#bringing along a lot of skills and abilities in areas that Nico lacks! that are crucial for a quest like that!#also then immediately the plot becomes Will reassuring Nico about his powers being cool and not evil and him being spooky is okay#while Will is also trying to not literally have his brain melt cause Nico's casually introducing him to a trio of death gods or something#forgetting that Will cannot look upon a god's true form#and Will's dragging Nico across the US while Nico is struggling to keep up cause Will forgot that Nico's not American and not from that era#its cute! it's interesting! it immediately begs the question of a next-gen series focusing on a main cast of demititan kids#dont go back to Tartarus that's lame and overdone and ruins a ton of stuff. dont retcon everything that also ruins a ton#give us the fluffy roadtrip comedy that they clearly wanted to write instead anyways#you can even keep the elements of Nico feeling out of his depth and Will constantly on the verge of death. except it makes sense this time.#and it's kind of funny cause Nico's just freaking out over babysitting and it highlights how much tankier Nico is vs Will#even just in casual interactions. yeah Nico can casually look upon a god's true form. dont worry about it#meanwhile Will is slowly collecting sunglasses the entire trip and layering them up for whenever Nico introduces him to another deity
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twoheartsoneclara · 1 year
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AL PACINO AS MICHAEL CORLEONE
THE GODFATHER (1972) DIR. FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA
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seriouslysam8 · 16 days
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Brumous Early Update!
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Chapter Sixty: Through the Cracks
Here's the chapter a day early! I was extremely anxious to share this chapter with you guys!
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@catholic-character-tournament - link to poll
@cringefaillosersummit - link to poll
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daydreamerfox24 · 4 months
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Al Pacino is my new obsession from now on.My short king ✨🌌🥰
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butraura · 9 months
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Bobby: I’m pretty sure the christening is the last scene in the Godfather
Buck and Eddie exchanging that look only an episode after Eddie tells Buck that he made him Chris’ godfather: 😏
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mnetn · 1 month
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fredo 🎀
bon avant j'étais absolument fan de micheal et puis hop le virage a 180°, j'suis désolé son background est DÉCHIRANT (bon tout les corleone ont la vie rude mais fredo c'est pas pareil)
j'veux dire TOUTE la fratrie lui fait comprendre qu'il est con et que c'est un incapable (sometimes il est pas très futé, je l'accorde) pourtant je le trouve siiiii attachant, il n'est pas mauvais, son destin est littéralement un roman empire.
et puis bon J O H N C A Z A L E, la dernière fois on a parlé de ce goat (évidemment j'ai pas pu rester passive) (elles ont dit qu'il ressemblait à megamind 😔), now all my girls know my roman empire à propos de cet homme soooo, anyway i love him, quel talent, on my knees, chapeau bas.
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rosalyn51 · 1 year
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The Offer behind-the-scenes. Photo: Burn Gorman
The top-rated limited series started streaming on Paramount+ a year ago today (April 28, 2022).
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baldabesss · 11 months
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theyellowhue · 1 year
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you would think that by how much I wax poetic about AePete, they would be my favorite character in Love by Chance, but sadly you are mistaken. don't get me wrong, Ae and Pete are perfect for each other, they definitely fill the void in my heart that doesn't believe in true love anymore. But my favorite character is Pond. that man has done more for AePete than AePete themselves. without Pond, LBC would just be Ae and Pete in constant longing and pining because both are dumb enough to preserve their truly adorable and genuine friendship over the fact that they desperately want to kiss each other.
truly, not all heroes wear capes, some of them will purposely have a p0rn marathon in your shared dorm room to force you to stay over your not-yet boyfriend's apartment and somehow grow the balls to finally ask him out.
we deserve a Pond in your lives.
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mineonmain · 2 years
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Imagine thinking Vegas has nothing to do with the Italians when he’s literally going:
“You come into my house, on the day my cousin is going to be betrayed by his lover, and you ask me to wed and bed you…”
marlon brando who??? I don’t know her
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Round 2 - Side B
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Propaganda below ⬇️
Michael
Literally the whole movie series is framed around the sacraments. Weddings and first communions and baptisms.
I just thought of the Godfather bc of the tumblr ask about people who are devout in some ways but uhh not very holy in other ways, and nobody is a better example of that than Michael in the montage toward the end of the Godfather. I saw the film for the first time last year, and that sequence just floored me. Will not spoil it in case you haven't seen the film but ohhh my goodness
Jeanne
She's Jeanne d'Arc's evil clone, created out of the non-existent resentment she (should have) had about the way she died, and there's a fair bit of her character just devoted to her rage against being stuck in the shadow of Jeanne d'Arc proper.
she's a complete and utter failwoman who tried to destroy all of france and only learned to read and write so she could make doujinshi. she calls ppl shit like 'stujerk' (mix of stupid + jerk) and there is no porn of her. she names her attacks in german despite being french to sound cool bc she's chuuni as all hell. she once got a job as a hostess bc she was broke and proceeded to get fired bc she got so mad at the clients that she accidentally destroyed the entire club not much of that has to do w her being catholic but like. she's rlly the Least Catholic catholic fate character but she's the most popular so like. she's jeanne d'arc ig.
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etoilesbienne · 7 months
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my favorite part of making fanart is that i get to do shit like this
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seriouslysam8 · 22 days
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Brumous Update!
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Chapter Fifty-Nine: This is Me Trying
Are you guys ready?? I am SO excited for this storyline. And I am also super excited to hear your guys' thoughts on what you think will happen next. 😈😈😈
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