they could be healthy. or they could be so irrevocably codependent, like roundworms inside each other's stomachs, that they crawl inside each other and never come out. a half-formed amalgamation of flesh and soul and obsession. i hope we both die, but the sun is so nice today, so...let's stay together a little while longer.

Yessir, we are still on that music grind!

Here are some of the playlists that I oftentimes gravitate towards:

The Husky and his White Cat Shizun 🐈🐕

Heaven Official’s Blessing Playlists 🦋✨

erha is so fucked up bcs moran IS fundamentaly a murderer, like theres no moran cousing of xue meng disciple of yuheng elder if he hadnt murdered those people before going to sisheng peak, thats literally the only reason his entire identity exists and its completally forgoten fact

y'all help I started thinking about how utterly tragic chu wanning 0.5 is and now I can't stop.

There's something I've read from erha which I DONT REMEMEBER IF ITS CANON OR FANON HAHAHAHAH. But the premise is that Chu Wanning waited outside a place (?) Just to see Taxian-Jun, but he wasn't permitted to coz like Mo ran is in a conference or something, but then Chu Wanning caught a cold and became sick because he waited kneeling, while it was freezing outside and I think was also snowing? AND THEN MO RAN GOT MAD THAT NO ONE STOPPED HIM FROM DOING SO, AND THEN NURSED HIM I—

This thing lives on my head rent-free.

Hi anon!! I believe I know what you’re talking about, though my memories about this will not be as perfect as MDZS cause I’ve only read Erha once so far. (I’m waiting for my officially translated volume 2 before I start again)

I believe the scene is Taxian-jun and Mo Ran at different points ruminating on the same past event. Xue Meng is fighting against him and causing trouble and Chu Wanning goes to beg Taxian-jun not to kill him, kneeling outside in a courtyard to wait for him. Song Qiutian has the lamps extinguished so it’s very dark and cold, and forbids the maids from telling Taxian-jun that Chu Wanning is doing this out of bitterness. Taxian-jun discovers this much later when he finds Chu Wanning still kneeling despite being sick with cold already and flips out about it and just somehow coincidentally never gets around to killing Xue Meng anyway cause his Chu-fei was close to dying of illness and he did not like that because the only person allowed to kill his Chu-fei was him and so he had to prevent Chu Wanning from actually dying here.

I believe the full extent of the scene is covered in like four different flashbacks from different perspectives, and never all at once, so it’s easy to not be certain on what you’ve seen because Erha is dense and some scenes are revisited in new lights once you know the stuff the characters aren’t telling you.

Thanks for the ask!

The absolute shock and pain I got when I found out that Hua binan is shi mei -

I need to breathe.

i just know the 2ha author was having the time of her life when she wrote “you are such a slut. if i’d known sooner, i would’ve fucked you back when i was your disciple.”

i just remembered theres a whole 2ha adaptation with wonderful casting and costuming and concept art and lots of petals everywhere that we may never see T_T

baby Mo Ran makes me so sad, I want him to have everything he ever wanted, his mom by his side, a full stomach and food to share, to always be kind,,,,

CHU WANNING -- tags ( i still have to add him to the roster )

transcendent holiness && eyes like a burning phoenix ⸢ 𝐂𝐇𝐔 𝐖𝐀𝐍𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐆 / visage. ⸥ life had never been kind to you but you still wish to protect humanity ⸢ 𝐂𝐇𝐔 𝐖𝐀𝐍𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐆 / about. ⸥ simple && clean with the utmost attention to detail in your works ⸢ 𝐂𝐇𝐔 𝐖𝐀𝐍𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐆 / aes. ⸥ to desire is to want && you’ve been taught you deserve nothing ⸢ 𝐂𝐇𝐔 𝐖𝐀𝐍𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐆 / desires. ⸥ a broken soul && a broken will but he’s all you have left ⸢ 𝐂𝐇𝐔 𝐖𝐀𝐍𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐆 / 0.5. ⸥ misunderstandings are already building into your sins ⸢ 𝐂𝐇𝐔 𝐖𝐀𝐍𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐆 / 1.0. ⸥ away from public eye &&. content with such a simple life ⸢ 𝐂𝐇𝐔 𝐖𝐀𝐍𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐆 / 2.0. ⸥ it was the only time you could cry &&. not feel ashamed ⸢ 𝐂𝐇𝐔 𝐖𝐀𝐍𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐆 / xia sini. ⸥ the heavens couldn’t protect its darling but you gave everything for him instead ⸢ 𝐂𝐇𝐔 𝐖𝐀𝐍𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐆 / xue meng. ⸥ even with jealousy creeping in your gut you still adored && cared for him ⸢ 𝐂𝐇𝐔 𝐖𝐀𝐍𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐆 / shi mei. ⸥ only you knew of the boy who cried over not being able to save the earth worms ⸢ 𝐂𝐇𝐔 𝐖𝐀𝐍𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐆 / mo ran. ⸥ a misunderstanding caused you to hate him for so long even though your heart still wanted to love him ⸢ 𝐂𝐇𝐔 𝐖𝐀𝐍𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐆 / taxian jun. ⸥ whether it’s this life or the past i will always submit to you ⸢ 𝐑𝐀𝐍𝐖𝐀𝐍 ⸥

I’ve been stuck in 2ha fics for a minute and have seen a few metas and posts surrounding Mo Ran’s character, but something I don’t think comes across very well from the book to fanwork and (some) discussion is that Taxian-jun doesn’t exist without the long-hatred flower.

Like, I see a lot of modern au fics, for example, that tackle the Mo Ran 1.0 to 1.5 shift by having Mo Ran be disillusioned by Chu Wanning and that being his villain origin story, but what gets lost in that remix is that in canon, while Mo Ran was hurt by being whipped by his shizun, after he thought about it for a while, he decided to apologize to Chu Wanning to reconcile rather than hold a grudge. Because Mo Ran, at his core, is someone who is naturally good and would rather die than enact vengeance on others. That’s why both the timing and the effects of the flower are particularly evil: Mo Ran is cursed because he chose reconciliation over petty grudges and the curse forces him to go against his nature by holding onto said petty grudges to “repay” them to a ridiculous degree while erasing any good memory he has, which is what had previously fueled his will to live.

With that said, Mo Ran 1.0/Taxian-jun is able to transition to 1.5 and eventually 2.0 not because he realized that Chu Wanning loved him all along (as a disciple at this point), but because the Chu Wanning from the original universe nullified the effects of the flower, allowing him to finally see that Chu Wanning loved him all along and that he actually doesn’t want revenge. And we can see that effect of the nullification immediately! Taxian-jun becomes 16-year-old Mo Ran, finds out that Shi Mei, his “first love” is actually still alive at this point, and immediately decides to prioritize keeping Shi Mei alive over enacting revenge on Chu Wanning. Because at his core he’s motivated by love! And when Hua Binan brings Taxian-jun’s reanimated corpse into the new universe, his control is tenuous because Taxian-jun isn’t being motivated purely by spite anymore because the flower isn’t in effect anymore. This isn’t to say that Mo Ran was incapable of becoming Taxian-jun, but as the narrative proves, that is a version of him that only exists under mind-breaking abuse and duress, which only happened when he lived under the Mo family’s reign of abuse for years before finally snapping and then once again under the effects of a curse that rewrote his memories to convince him that he was living under mind-breaking abuse and duress. Without those conditions, Mo Ran always chooses hope and love, and even as he looks back on those moments where he reigned terror, he wishes he could have chosen/been afforded death instead (much to Chu Wanning’s upset). So all this to say that Mo Ran isn’t saved by realizing he was living under a misunderstanding; he is saved by having the thing leeching out all of the good in him destroyed.

(Also on a smaller note, Taxian-jun isn’t uneducated because he was on the street for so long and therefore “too old” to be properly educated. Taxian-jun is uneducated because all of his memories of learning were good memories tied to Chu Wanning, thus they got erased. Mo Ran 2.0 re-educates himself in his late teens/early 20s because the problem was always the flower, not some “inherent” inferiority he was stuck with from his upbringing or an unwillingness to learn.)

Mo Ran is so gay it isn't even funny.

Now, this is just my opinion and I realise other people have their own interpretations, but this whole episode is super telling to me of just how unreliable his narration is about having tons and tons of sex with people of both genders in his previous lifetime. He's just so... oblivious. None of this reads as a man with a lot of previous experience with many different people. He did not pick up on her flirting with him at all. Sure, he did have a lot of insane sex in his past life, but as the book unfolds, it becomes very clear that most of that sex was with Chu Wanning. At best, there were only a handful of other people he was involved with, and one was a prostitute he was paying, while the other was his wife whose relationship with him was also transactional.

I know people argue that he is bisexual because he married Song Qiutong, but when we actually get her POV on their marriage, it turns out that they had unenjoyable sex only a handful of times, at least one of which was him taking her from behind and very much imagining that it was Chu Wanning in her place. There are plenty of gay men who end up married to straight women (and vice versa) for whatever reasons and none of this makes them any less gay. He also identifies as a 'cut-sleeve' himself at one point, so he doesn't seem at all confused about his sexual attraction to men. Later on, when we finally get his unaltered POV on his life in the brothel, it comes out that he considered the girls there as sisters at best, never as sexual partners. The only other named sexual partner is Rong Jiu, who is male, and I can buy that there were possibly other people who looked like Shi Mei that he was with under the influence of the cursed love spell, but there was never any real attraction there, which is why some argue that he is attracted only to Chu Wanning and would still be attracted to him regardless of gender.

But I think that this is also not true. He definitely was obsessed with Chu Wanning from an early age, which makes it hard to see what his preferences would have been if Chu Wanning wasn't in the picture, but that chapter when he finally realises his feelings also reveals that he does have a type, which he never dared to think about before because he thought he was unworthy of having a choice. However, Chu Wanning fits this type to a tee, so it's easy to run away with the idea that he is shizunsexual and that Mo Ran's attraction begins and ends with him.

With that said, we do get confirmation later on that he does find other men attractive, in particular, Jiang Xi. It's just that he never has the space or the inclination to do anything about it because of his preoccupation with Chu Wanning. In the extras, when Mo Ran misunderstands Xue Men's relationship with Jiang Xi and thinks they are having a love affair, in his unfiltered Taxian-jun state, he is full of approval because he personally finds these powerful, beautiful, prickly, emotionally unavailable older men to be the height of attractiveness. If Chu Wanning hadn't been in the picture, Mo Ran would have definitely been attracted to Jiang Xi or someone similar. Even Ye Wangxi, whom he also fixates on, fits this type (except for the older man bit because I understood her to be only a few years older than Mo Ran). The fact that she turns out to be a woman also cannot be used as an argument for Mo Ran's bisexuality because she very much presents as a man throughout the book (but whether or not she actually identifies as one is debatable).

In short, Mo Ran does have a type of man he is attracted to and it is definitely men that he likes, regardless of his few dubious and very unsatisfying dalliances with women. While Chu Wanning definitely fits this type of ideal man, there are other men out there whom Mo Ran finds attractive too, it's just that he is too unhinged about Chu Wanning to actually do anything about it. Also, I very much doubt that Mo Ran was nearly as promiscuous as he makes himself out to be because he reads as very oblivious when it comes to sexual relationships in general. Even with Chu Wanning, who was right there and about to pass away from sheer horniness that he couldn't even begin to disguise, Mo Ran was still going, "Shizun is so pure and virtuous!" 🙄

(I'm not going to get into the whole Shi Mei situation and how badly he misread him every step of the way too, but that is because his brain was so badly mangled by him that he really stood no chance on that front until it was entirely too late.)

Taxian Jun: "😡😠😡 my Chu Fei got too COLD again so now he's SICK again! 👿 It was the COLD 👿 I hate him, how could he do this to me. He is... evil? For getting sick? How dare he hurt me like this! 😡😫 Evil slutty bastard man. I hate him! I must take doting care of him, spoon feed him medicine, and keep him so so warm because getting cold makes him so so sick. 🥺😭 I hate him so much"

Chu Fei, plagued by a raging UTI, yeast infection, kidney infection, bladder infection, and like 3 other pussy problems from all the nasty wacky weird constant outdoor upside down and backwards sex they've been having, sex with food, with wine, with props, with toys, sex next to the exotic pet TXJ gave him and then got jealous of the attention it got from Chu Fei and had it removed, sex on the exotic animal pelt rug TXJ gave him, sex on the bed the floor the courtyard the table the wall the ceiling the roof, sex in the pond, sex against a tree, sex up a tree, shibari sex, bondage sex, vanilla sex where TXJ cries the whole time, sex with TXJ freshly back from a murder spree and still unwashed:

Chu Fei: "......... Yes. Tis the cold."

i was wondering about something post canon in 2ha... if mo ran 2.0 is basically the version unaffected by the flower, the one who wholeheartedly loves cwn as he did from the start, then like... wouldn't taxian jun change as well? since he doesn't have the flower in him anymore right? when mr initially regressed back in time, as txj to his 1.0 self, he still 'hated' cwn, but realised his mistakes as plots were revealed (cwn making wontons, being his saviour) and went on redemption.

Now after the end, sharing a body with txj, wouldnt he go through that same process? they are the same person after all, and txj does also love cwn. having the same memories as well, wouldn't they blend into the same person after a while? or is he stuck permanently in that personality since he's technically meant to be dead- idk anymore

Popular Danmei Character Tournament

CWs: MAJOR 2ha spoilers, genitalia mention, suggestive language, death mention, d*mon mention

Mo Ran from the Husky and His White Cat Shizun

Submission: dumbasses need representation too

He’s obsessed with his Shizun (Chu Wanning), but for plot reasons, he “hates” Chu Wanning. Still wants to fuck him tho (he thinks this is normal)

Constantly doing a fucking limbo contest where the bar is understanding his own feelings (he’s underground)  

The author pulls him and the reader through the redemption of a century kicking and screaming. 

Canonly has the largest d*ck in the cultivation realm (that we know of) - “Seen when bathing at Deyu Hall; an absolute unit, truly awe-inspiring” (Ch.131) - that leads to Chu Wanning having an entire crisis

“Because like people, an ox has gotta eat. For the sake of eating, a lot of work has to be done. If one day you can’t work anymore, then no one cares if you’re alive or dead.” - Ch.65, Ox Eats Grass 

The reason behind his “hatred-yet-not-hatred” for Chu Wanning is wild - he purposefully chose to take the Flower of Everlasting Hatred to save Chu Wanning, causing him to become Taxian-jun 

His story is also incredibly tragic, but we don’t talk about that

Six Balls from Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System

Look at the Submissions Here

A minor demon from SVSSS Shen Qingqiu meets while escaping Luo Binghe that’s become a fandom meme

Shen Qinqiu asks for a group of demons’ names, and Six Balls replies that he’s called Six Balls because when he was born, his Pa said he weighed about six balls. It is never elaborated what kind of balls was used as a measurement. 

Normally, Six Balls would be in the Less Popular section, but he’s the most submitted character at 14 submissions. Six Balls lives forever; you can’t escape him.

Current List of Major Characters He's Defeated: Chu Wanning from 2ha