#tbf the actual books are also proof of this
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So. The original A Song of Ice and Fire outline. This has been rehashed to death but I find it extremely interesting because GRRM has always been clear that while the journey changes and he adds lots of minor and secondary characters and changes details, the major characters and the broad strokes of their story have always been there and he’s always had the same destination in mind. I think we can glean a lot about how things will shake out from this, which is good because I’m skeptical the series will ever really be finished and it’s nice to have a sense of where it’s going. The major points:
1. This was envisioned as a 3 act trilogy over the course of a number of years. It would start with a longer war between the Starks and Lannisters, then Dany would land in Westeros, and finally the Others would invade and the War for the Dawn would begin. tbh I think he should have stuck with this; the drastic slowdown in pacing and huge explosion of tertiary storylines and characters in books 4 and 5 has really hurt the series and is probably a large part of why he’s struggling to continue imo. The Others especially have come to feel like an aside compared to the scheming about who ends up on the throne, which feels contradictory to the original idea that the Long Night was the real threat. I also think the events happening over a longer span of time makes sense: the kid characters get to grow up more (Arya, Bran, Jon, Sansa, and Dany all act like they have anyway,) events are given more room to breathe (Theon being totally broken by Ramsay and Cerseis downward spiral are both things I think would make more sense taking place over the course of a few years,) and some of the political plots would feel less rushed (like the chaotic power struggles in Kings Landing, Dany coming into her own as a leader and gathering her army, or Jon rising through the ranks of the Nights Watch and struggling to fix its many problems as troubling reports of the Others become more and more frequent.)
2. The central characters seem to be largely the same. Tyrion, Daenerys, Jon, and Arya are all clearly main protagonists. Bran though has surprisingly few chapters compared to them given that the outline calls him a key player, and it implies that Jaime is the main antagonist of the War of the Roses expy, which was altered somewhat in the series we got by greatly expanding Cerseis role and turning Jaime into something of an antihero. I am not the biggest Jaime sympathizer (I still think he’s a narcissist,) but I think Cersei is a great villain who is used to explore the way women in patriarchal societies can sink under their bitterness so I am pleased we got her out of this. Interestingly, there is no mention of Slavers Bay, and it’s pretty much outright stated Dany goes straight from the Dothraki Sea to Westeros, a change I would have liked to see.
3. Ned still dies in the same way, but Robb is killed in battle (less dramatic and doesn’t have as much potential to fuel future conflict as the Red Wedding so I’m glad that was changed) and Catelyns whole arc turns out quite differently. She goes to and eventually beyond the Wall with (still crippled, still magic) Bran and Arya to escape the Lannisters and is killed by the Others. I am of two minds about this: it makes the Others way scarier if they knock off a major character, and it is a much cooler storyline for Cat than what we got, but Aryas time posing as a commoner and showing how devastating the war is for average people is one of my favorite arcs and it would be a huge loss. Interestingly, Bran and Jon become bitter enemies over something that happens when he denies them refuge at the Wall in an attempt to honor his Nights Watch vows. This conflict I think could have a lot of potential to come true in the main story Bloodraven is evil or part of the same force that controls the Others. I really like the idea of Bran being unwittingly manipulated into dark magic because of his inexperience; his time in the cave has had a strange sinister undertone to me and I think that’s deliberate. I don’t think the Stark kids will necessarily be all smiles and hugs in any case if they do reunite. GRRM enjoys interpersonal conflict too much, to the point where he created Sansa to introduce some friction in the family.
3. Sansa chooses the Lannisters, and marries Joffrey and has a son with him. The outline says she comes to “bitterly regret” her choice and that Joffrey has the same characterization he he does in canon, so I imagine it plays out similarly to what we got, only instead of her forced marriage to Tyrion, Joffrey is still the groom. I think the bones of this still existed in the first book and that’s why Sansa warned Cersei about Neds plan to flee the capitol. I think Theon was eventually created from this arc, possibly because GRRM decided not to make Sansa an outright antagonist and had to find another kid in Winterfell who isn’t a family member but is close with them. In any case, her and her son are both killed by Jaime to secure his position, and I can state with confidence that Sansa being murdered by him is probably not going to be a plot point that carries over. I would be surprised if Sansa dies at all, though Theon probably will.
4. Tyrion is pretty different. He is still a major political player, and actually sacks Winterfell (a role later given to the Boltons.) He ends up assassinating Joffrey for his cruelty, and then Jaime wipes out everyone else before him in the line of succession and pins it on Tyrion who is sent into exile. This is similar to what happens in canon (though obviously there Tyrion never harms Joffrey and Cersei rather than Jaime is the one who blames him and takes power for herself as Tommens regent.) The next part could be a hint about Tyrion’s future. He ends up in exile, implied to be beyond the Wall, and switches sides. There is a fair amount of foreshadowing in the first book about him ending up with the Nights Watch, and I do think that might end up coming true.
5. A love triangle develops between Jon (R+L=J still in this,) Arya, and Tyrion at this point. There are two directions this could go. The first is that Tyrion was reworked into Ramsay in this scenario. Like Tyrion in the outline, Ramsay destroys Winterfell. He also marries “Arya Stark,” who we as the reader know is poor Jeyne Poole impersonating her but most people in Westeros (including Jon) assume is the real Arya. Jon famously goes nuclear and breaks his vows to the Nights Watch to march and battle Ramsay when he writes him a taunting letter saying fArya has gone missing and demanding her return. It does make for a twisted sort of love triangle and play into the angst described in the outline where Jon’s vows conflict with his love for Arya. The second scenario is that Arya became Daenerys in this situation. There is a fair amount of foreshadowing for a possible Jon/Dany romance (especially the “bride of fire” prophecy in the House of the Undying,) and of course Tyrion is on his way to her right now and with the way he talks about her already I could see him falling in love with her when they do meet.
6. I haven’t really mentioned Dany because her arc is pretty separate in this outline but is much more streamlined. The setup of her being sold as a bride to Khal Drogo is kept the same, but he never budges on invading Westeros and kills Viserys for pushing it. Dany and Viserys are implied to have a better relationship here (which would have had a knock on effect I think because the lifetime of abuse she faced from her brother was imo a key part of her character) as she is extremely upset by his murder and ends up killing Drogo to avenge him and fleeing into the wilderness, where she finds a baby dragon who she uses to invade the Seven Kingdoms. tbh this is a lot less creepy than her “falling in love” with the 30+ year old warlord she was sold to and gets her to Westeros faster so I can get behind it. As awesome as Danys anti slavery crusade is it really pushed back her joining the main story.
7. The end is blacked out, but there are some bits people have made out. Bran ends up in a “seat” that he finds uncomfortable (maybe the throne, and the controversial King Bran was always part of the plan,) and Jon is his enemy in the North (King in the North confirmed?) He also said the truth about Jons parentage eventually comes out and is a game changer with him and Arya, though I imagine it has a way bigger impact than that. It also implies Jaimes death, which imo is a given for the final series, along with Cerseis. The only Lannister sibling who has a shot is Tyrion.
Overall? I would def have loved to read this and I do think a lot of this will come true. I think the story would have benefit from a tighter focus on the core plot lines and a three act structure.
#a song of ice and fire#asoiaf#catelyn stark#ned stark#bran stark#arya stark#jon snow#daenerys targaryen#sansa stark#jaime lannister#tyrion lannister#god please give me dark wizard bran#I know it probably won’t happen#but it would be so cool#also this is proof grrm doesn’t hate fantasy tropes like people say#tbf the actual books are also proof of this#theon greyjoy
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ohh if you do a character design analysis, i'd love to read one on atsushi and the removal of his beloved (to me) black stripe. could just be laziness but it's always been very strange to me
oooooo yeah i think the removal is out of "it would be a pain to add this to every frame he's in" D: same as the chain on chuuya's hat 😔
but as a general design analysis! atsushi actually has a lot going on!
lore wise, we know from some manga omake that 1 his hair looks like this bc he got a haircut from the kids in the orphanage 2 his clothes are a collection of stuff from the ada, each member got him a different piece
first off that's adorable. he's so cute. second i think it goes to show how affected he is by those around him - everything you can see on him besides his actual face was someone else's choice. i don't think it's entirely out of wanting to please others, more like being grateful to those who help him and are there for him, as well as not having enough of an established identity to make these choices on his own
atsushi's whole driving force for a good chunk of the story is to help others, so he can earn the right to live. and i think this is a good reflection of it! he is very dependent on the people in his life to confirm even the most basic of things (that he's allowed to live), and so it makes sense it'll be reflected in his design c: even if it ends up being mismatched or a mess of a haircut, he'll keep it this way, because that's physical proof that someone else gave him this permission, on him all the time
in addition to that, his design is mainly white with some splashes of black. that is ofc to oppose akutagawa's design, with the whole ying yang thing they've got going on
and ofc! to mirror the tiger! that's also why he has the black stripe in his hair, i think. black stripes on white fur hehe. as well as mirroring the smidge of white in akutagawa's hair imo! really hammer in the ying yang thing :P
it's interesting how his eyes are yellow and purple, usually a mix but sometimes with one overtaking the other. i think i read once that they're yellow when atsushi's more... protective and ig "good"? and purple when he's being vindictive or petty, but i could be misremembering/the thing i read might've been inaccurate, so pls take this with a grain of salt 🙏
still, whether or not that's true, i think this mix of colors is very interesting. to get into interpretation (which, tbf, this whole post is just that lol) it might be related to the time of twilight, governed by the agency? a connection between night and day, darkness and light. in a way, atsushi himself embodies that, by being the key to finding the book that every group in the story is looking for, that is the connecting force between everyone in the world due to its reality altering powers, but i like the idea that it's a subtle way of saying atsushi definitely belongs in the agency, and always has.
that's all i have now! i encourage others to offer their own takes, or cover anything i might've missed in the reblogs 🫡
#bsd design analysis#<- in case i post more of these. could be cool to start a whole tag for them 😳#dan rambles#hope that wasn't overwhelming anon ajdkflg and I'm sorry i didn't have a better answer to your actual question D:#unfortunately no links to the omake in question bc I'm on mobile but if anyone's interested i could try finding them!
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Chapter 22 - Part 3
If you need it, use Cherrim's Gondola to warp back to Part 1 and/or Part 2.
We left off on Combusken being the younger sibling in a back-of-the-car squabble ("Yeah, but he started it!"):
"We thought you were the bad guys..."
(Huge shoutout to BeastnUnicorn btw - her own version of Randomized Sky absolutely enamored me!)
This is the face of someone who regrets everything.
Okay, fair enough, fair enough. I mean, Pichu basically did this:
FINALLY, someone who recognizes this world's tendency towards trigger happiness!
Only... halfway...? *looks at the stopwatch approaching the two-hour mark*
Yeah, how weird that the edgy loner would just book it the moment the opportunity presented itself, haha... 😒
*6th Station Pass: Gigantic Springs*
Literally laughed out loud when I saw this. An entire tile! Well gee, thanks for leading me on like that.
Yet another Monster House I took a picture of for some... reason. (Gosh darn it.)
So... are these bases gonna remain after we're all done climbing the mountain or...? Like who's gonna staff them?
Anyway, next up is the 7th Station Pass, AKA Witty Lavafields! At some point along the way, we picked up a Gracidea Flower. Given that Shaymin was replaced with Onix (both functionally and in the item description), I decided to give it a try and see what would happen...
Boo! Boring. But also really interesting since I recently found proof it won't work on Shaymin, either. So then... when does it work?
AND I WILL THANK THE LORD ARCEUS FOREVER FOR THE BLESSINGS PROVIDED BY THESE ITEMS, AMEN!
Okay, I DO remember why I saved this one. I entered the tile above the stairs when the MH triggered, so in theory I only had to move down by one. But I couldn't survive long enough to actually get to the Proceed option.
😂 This about sums it up, yeah.
The one and only Secret Room I found during the entire climb despite them being "more common" here. Though tbf, their chances probably got randomized like everything else.
*dramatic lighting* "The war-torn soldiers, barely escaping with their lives, hoped to seek refuge in this secluded place... But here, too, did they hear the popping of shell bursts, the rumbling of tanks, the agonized screams of wounded men as they lay dying on the battlefield... For no clearing was truly safe from the Second Horse of the Apocalypse..."
WAIT PICHU I WAS ONLY BEING DRAMATIC, NO NEED TO TAKE THIS SO SERIOUSLY-
(Also wow does that karma strike back quickly #yikes)
Yup, I don't think this would qualify as a "little thing"...
Bonus:
WHHHHHYYYYYY???!!!
(Click here to speed through the 8th station pass, Ludicrous Heath, and find the Sad Fen Expert in Part 4.)
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so,,,I recently binged all of the acotar series this last week and a half and omg I was highlighting all the azriel and elain hints the entire time. and your account omg BLESS YOU you totally validated me bc when I looked up stuff everyone was saying it wouldn’t happen despite me having been highlighting the proof lol. also dear lord your elriel one shots are amazing. in character and beautiful written. so glad to have found your account!!
Excuse me for a minute...
Anon, thank you so much! Your kind words mean more than you could know. Theories can be are time consuming, especially when you're looking for quotes to make sure what you're saying 1. makes sense to begin with and isn't contradicted by the text, and 2. you don't contradict yourself halfway through, but posting fics was a whole new level, in terms of vulnerability and putting myself out there. I don't know how everyone else does it so often!
I actually had a similar reaction after finishing Silver Flames. I'd never been part of the ACOTAR fandom, just read the occasional fic and a couple of Nessian theories pre-ACOSF (at which point I preferred Elriel but wasn't really invested either way). After finishing ACOSF, including both bonus chapters, I came back to Tumblr to see what people were saying about Elain's book and saw that Gw*nriel was a thing... and then had a bit of a Snowball "huh?!" moment, 'cause I hadn't even considered them as a possible couple while reading the book. And this isn't to neg anyone who likes the ship, we all have preferences, it's just an explanation for my complete confusion that people didn't agree that Elain's book was next. I thought I had missed something (and there's always the chance that I have, tbf, or that SJM has changed her mind since publishing ACOSF), but Elriel still makes the most sense to me in terms of character development, plot and romance in any order.
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Okay, so apparently Derek is working with ANOTHER (confirmed) art tracer for his new Marvel Comics series ‘All-Out Avengers’ — one who traces from adult-oriented internet videos of women — maybe that could be used to bring some actual attention to the Percival tracing drama on Twitter or something, bring the Marvel stans into things? Because they get really vocal about this sort of stuff, and Brie Larson being used for Abyssinia could be one way to get them onto things.
Greg Land is the artist for ‘All-Out Avengers’ and, well, tracing seems to be like the main thing he’s known for apparently.
I was checking Landy's Twitter and the post announcing the project did not receive any backlash. Actually none of the announcements got any reactions and the one reaction it got was on the Bleeding Cool post where one person noped away bc of Greg Land. Soooo no one but Landy fans actually seem to care about this project despite Twitter being full of people hating on Greg Land. Huh.
“Tracing the Success of Greg Land“ by ComicTropes is a really good vid, showing he had been tracing since the start of his career and pointing out that tracing actually made Land’s art worse. His art is now more realistic but has stiff figure work, confusing expression, bad panelling, less dynamic and he’s losing his imagination/creativity.
And omg it’s so good hearing someone who gets art talk about it. Like, I’ve seen the exact same thing with Tom Percival where his early SP work was REALLY good, dynamic and interesting. Meanwhile his recent SP work tries to be photorealistic but ends up in uncanny valley instead, the new covers are boring und unimaginative and the characters he draws feel stiff despite the attempts at dynamic poses and almost all of the characters have the same neutral expressions
Also, through this vid I’ve learned that if an artist traces from another artist it’s called ‘swipping’. Good to know the worst tracing offense has it’s own name.
“Plagiarism Expert Looks at the Greg Land Plagiarism Allegations“ by Jonathan Bailey is also a really interesting vid. For one, I love hearing an experts opinion. But it’s also disheartening to hear that Land’s alien trace is, while morally apprehensive, within the realm of legality. If that’s the case then there is a 0% chance that the Captain Marvel trace could be used against Percival. It has always been one of the weaker proofs of tracing, so I’m not that surprised about it tbh.
It’s also sickening to find out that someone like Greg Land who has been repeatingly proven to trace and swipe is not only still getting plenty of work but work from big names like Marvel and DC. Tho tbf Marvel and DC aren’t what they used to be. They pay crap and screw their artists and writers in more way than one way with shit contracts and tight deadlines.
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I’m not sure if the authors can choose which artist they want. The best I found is “What's it like being a comic book artist” on the QAGOMA YT channel where Wanye Nichols talks about his experiences in comics and apparently he would be offered scripts asking if he wants to work on them or not and decided which he would take based on if he has time and if it fits his art style. When he had to work with an inker he didn’t like he couldn’t change the inker in the middle of the project but since then he paid attention to who his co-workers would be and he could suggest people he wants to work with.
I’d imagine comic authors would have similar freedoms. So while I don’t know if Landy asked for Greg Land to be the artist for ‘All-Out Avengers’, he apparently didn’t object to working with him. And there is no way he didn’t know Land is a tracer, I mean, it’s literally on page one when you google his name and everyone googles the people they plan to work with. Come on, we all do.
This doesn’t help bring more attention to Percival’s tracing, I don’t think so and learning about Greg Land leads me to believe it doesn’t matter anyways. But it sure as hell confirms that Landy is the kind of dirt-bag that doesn’t mind tracing as long as it gets him desired results. I mean, with Percival I can understand that firing the artist in the middle of a cover series is ill advised if you want to keep the style consistent (then again again, so is firing the actor for the main villain in the middle of a movie franchise #JusticeForJohnny), but I was hoping at least getting called out would make Percival stop tracing (it didn’t) or they would choose a different cover artist for phase 3 (they probably won’t). But there is no excuse for teaming up with a well known tracer. And one that traces from p0rn at that 🤮 but knowing what a pervy creep Landy is, that’s probably a plus for him
Landy really doesn’t have any morals, now does he?
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Ngl I was kinda waiting for someone like ‘Comics Matter w/ya boi Zack’ or YellowFlash to cover Landy’s comics and, quite frankly, roast the hell outta them. But no one is talking about them. I guess they are mediocre enough to not get roasted but also not get recommended 🤷 I’m honestly surprised by that considering I thought the SP comic to be very badly writing. Like, the dialog made me cringe so hard. Well, maybe comic book fans don’t despise his immature humour quite as much as I do.
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You know what? Fuck it! I'll give a million thoughts and headcanons
So let's get real, first. Louie is possibly the most adorable character peter lorre has played and thats saying something. The way he rubs his eyes when he wakes up, the way he feels so dang good about himself in his nice suit, the way he just wants lobster with thermidor, his big sad eyes whenever he's scared or worried. I...just love him so much, man
Honestly, the characters in this flick are adorable in general. My favourite Peter Lorre film is aaol and the main reason is that every character in it is so loveable or at the very least enjoyable. I find this is actually pretty rare for a Peter film, where usually the only loveable character is him and maybe to a lesser extent, one or two others and everyone else can go jump in a lake. But I'll give a million is the only other Peter lorre film I can think if where im so invested in so many of the characters
Jeans definitely the second best character. I love her so much! So peppy and nice and no nonsense. I love her voice, I love her fun outfits, I love the way she's ready to throw hands with a cop for bothering her friends and I especially love the way she just lies so much. Even when she probably didn't have to, like saying Tony was cool with getting shot out of a canon if the other guy couldn't do it. Queen.
I'm a big fan of uncle Victor too. He such a chill, nice old man and I love him being the one to fill the role of the brides parents at the wedding
Something that is a bit uncomfortable about IGAM is how unsympathetic it is towards the homeless. I mean yeah, what can you expect from a film from 1938, but the homeless are mostly portrayed as freeloading drunks and criminals. Even louies implied to be a drunk and is stealing shit at the end(although I chalk that up entirely to kopelpeck making him do it). I guess the more well off people in the film are shown to be greedy, unkind scumbags themselves tbf, but still
Speaking of, it's crazy how far being nice to peter lorre gets you where likeability is concerned-at least for me. I feel like I should hate Tony for his lack of self awareness about how much better his life is than most peoples. But Tony has a redeeming quality that most similar leading male characters in Peters films don't. He's not a complete see-you-next-Tuesday to the loveable peter lorre character for no godamn reason. This is especially admirable in IGAM since he's honestly the only character who doesn't kick poor louie around at least a little
Maxie is so gross. But! so fun to watch. Mr fritz Feld did an amazing job. Wonder if this guys the French nephew of kasper Gutman
Speaking of headcanons, Wikipedia says that Louies full name is Louie Monteau, but he's referred to as a German in the restaurant scene. So im thinking Louie was born and raised in Germany to a French father and a German mother. Maybe he moved to/ran away to France hoping to have connections from his French family that didn't end up working out, possibly due to them rejecting him because they disapproved of his mother since that sounds about right giving the films trend of everyone just being awful to Louie
Louie and kopelpeck is probably my most obscure ship rn. The good thing about nobody else having seen this film is that there are no fun police to reprimand me for grasping at the fact that they were sitting next to eachother at Jean and Tony's wedding as proof that they became a couple
I also HC Kopelpeck as being kind of the jealous type and disliking/not trusting Tony because he thinks Louie has a crush on him. Whether or not Louie actually does have a crush on Tony is something I go back and fourth on since he does call him handsome and a gentlemen and talks about him pretty dreamily, but if he didn't, kopelpecks distrust would fit the theme of people rudely accusing louie of things
That guy at the end who narrates Tony's actions with the cheque book is pretty good too. Again, like aaol this film has a lot of great small bits with characters who are barely in the film
#ill give a million#louie the dope#Kopelpeck#jean Hoffman#tony newlander#max primerose#victor#i dont think anyone has put this much thought into this film since the script was first written#ive really gotta start tagging long posts
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Stan Talent, Stan Pentagon
So many reasons to stan Pentagon:
1. Self-Produced
They just have a ton of talented songwriters in here! Cube is popular for self-produced idols after all, like BtoB, another super talented group.
Hui is a composer-producer, not really a secret because he’s well-known as a genius as he also composed hit songs for other popular groups (such as Energetic by Wanna One)
Kino and Wooseok wrote a lot of songs in their albums too, including some of my favorites Spring Snow (Kino) and Nostalgia (Wooseok). Kino also wrote their special single Eternal Flame. Wooseok had a big contribution in writing my absolute favorite, Daisy (but mostly written by Hui), and honestly his songwriting talent seems to be underrated.
Jinho has also composed a few and helped write a lot. Yuto also composed songs (aside from his rap lines), one song being Camella that a lot of “unis” love. *Universe/Unis = fandom name
Both Kino and Yuto have their own soundclouds for the songs they write/produce.
Yeo One composed his own solo songs (yes, even as rookies, they were already composing), and they’re actually so good.
Also, in general, they are so creative in their songs and performances. Example: their Road To Kingdom performances, and also their super fun b-sides like Round 1 and Round 2!
My personal favorites: Obviously the genius Hui, Wooseok (I love him so much!), and Kino (such a talented person)
2. Vocal Kings
Their main vocals (Hui and Jinho) are absolutely top-tier vocalists, two of the strongest ones in the kpop world (imo).
Jinho was LITERALLY a vocal coach of kpop stars. Incredible vocal range.
Their lead vocals Hongseok (actually now a main vocal) and Yeo One are potential main vocals! And their sub-vocals, Kino (honestly surprised he was a sub-vocal cause he’s waaaay too good to be sub!), Yan An and Shinwon, are on par or better than other groups’ lead vocals, imo.
Vocal kings of harmonization. I love it so much, they sound so good! They take after their sunbaes BtoB, the OG harmonization kings. (Song references: You Are, and Shine acapella version).
Wooseok and Yuto’s rap are also so good! Honestly, I go crazy sometimes, especially with Wooseok’s delivery.
Edit, random trivia: I actually found out Wooseok auditioned in Cube as a vocalist and a model. Thank God, he discovered his talent in rapping later on, because dang, this guy is SICK. His rap touches my heart. He is proof that the basis of what a good rapper is doesn’t need to be about how fast you can say your words.
My personal favorites: Hui, Jinho, and Yeo One (what a beautiful voice, and he’s so good and stable live, halp huhu, totally underrated), Wooseok’s rap (I’m a big fan, my eyes are filled with hearts)
3. Musical ability (in general) and Dance
Being composers/producers, they have a good understanding of music theory and techniques, especially for Hui (obviously, the genius), Jinho (as a vocal coach) and Kino (I think).
Musical Instruments: Almost all of them (except for Hongseok) plays musical instruments
Piano: Hui, Jinho, Kino, Shinwon - I have to make a special note here. These guys can really play. They’re not the type to say they play the piano but only press a few chords here and there a bit and sing a song. They play their keys!
Guitar: Yuto (he is really good! he posts electric guitar covers on Twitter), Wooseok, Jinho, Hui, Yeo One, Shinwon
Erhu (Chinese traditional instrument): Yan An - studied it for 10 years. Haha! This is so unique, I’ve never seen him play it, and it’s not exactly a useful instrument to have for kpop music, but I love it!
Edit: I also found out Wooseok can play the violin. Not only that, he’s won a violin competition.. I couldn’t believe it! Violin it’s such a hard instrument. It’s not easy to be good at violin, let alone win a violin competition. Wooseok really surprises me with the musical talent he has sometimes.
Dance: Quite obvious as a kpop idol group, even though admittedly they aren’t exactly the best as a whole group.
But anyway, Kino is the main dancer. (Also known for being such a good dancer of girl group songs. Hihi cute)
Lead dancers: Hui, Yuto, Yeo One
Apparently, Kino is also the choreographer! I think he was the main choreographer for Daisy. (Don’t @ me, I’m not sure. But in general, yes, he does choreograph for the group.)
My personal favorites: Kino, Hui - this also includes stage presence.
4. Visuals
Their official visual is Yan An. (Pentagon is whipped for Yanan, btw.)
Other unofficial visuals, at least in my book: Yuto, Hongseok, Yeo One, Kino (but tbf, as a well-loved idol group, everyone becomes an unofficial visual)
Shinwon was actually a legit model before being an idol, and he became viral for being “the handsome part-timer” at a cafe Exo went to.
Men’s Health Korea models (YES, ACTUAL MEN’S HEALTH COVER BOYS aka gym freaks): Hongseok, Yeo One. *PS: I have a feeling Yuto will also be on there soon, one of these days
Let me just reiterate though that while Hongseok is known for his muscles, he more than his abs. He’s smart, funny, and talented, as you can see in this whole post. So yeah, basically, please don’t objectify him.
My personal favorites: Yuto (the reason why I checked Pentagon out in the first place! my heart went deugun deugun), Hongseok (what a great face, beautiful eyes), Yeo One (cutie), Kino (very very pretty face)
*check ending for gifs/pics*
5. Other talents
Acting
Literally THREE of them are musical theatre actors, and all were actually the main characters in their respective musicals: Jinho (already a theatre sunbae), Hui and Yeo One. Honestly, this shows both acting skills and strong vocal ability. (Imagine the strong vocal ability of the lead vocal, in PTG, Yeo One, a main character of a musical. It gives you an idea of how good the vocal line up is.)
I think some of them had some acting in dramas, like Hongseok and Yeo One
Update: Yanan and Wooseok are also on dramas/will be on dramas now. That makes almost everybody in Pentagon (still waiting for Yuto and Shinwon) an actor.
Another update: Kino is now hosting his second podcast with Dive Studios! :)
Randoms
Hongseok, Jinho and Kino speaks three languages pretty comfortably: Hongseok/Jinho (Korean, English, Chinese), Kino (Korean, English, Japanese) ---not super fluent but able to have good conversations. And foreigners Yanan (Korean, Chinese), and Yuto (Korean, Japanese) are obviously fluent bilinguals.
Kino drew and painted the album art for WE:TH / daisy. He even gifted a painted version to Hui for his studio!
6. Personality
Let me start by saying Pentagon is a crazy group. They aren’t really kids but they are so chaotic. I love that they have no filter!
Even the leader, Hui, who’s not really young, is very chaotic! Hui is actually such a cutie pie. And also so funny, especially in their TMIs
Hongseok is so funny, so witty, and has absolutely no shame. I love it!
Shinwon is very witty, and is known to be the mood-maker of the group.
Yeo One is a little 4D. He’s like a messy kid and sometimes has his own world. :)) An absolute cutie!!!
Kino is the sweetest person ever! He never fails to tell Universe how much he appreciates us.
Jinho is known to be the kind and caring hyung they can depend on.
My personal favorites: Hongseok (hilarious and crazy, has me dying), Hui, Yeo One (ugghhhh super cute personality!), Kino also!!!
Overall: They have a bunch of all-rounders! (My personal favorite all-rounders: Hui, Kino, and Yeo One) They’re so talented and deserve a lot of recognition and support.
Hui is my bias and my ult, but I can’t decide who’s my next bias.
Update: I think Kino is my next bias, cause he’s just so good, so multi-talented! I can’t with this guy. I’m even considering adding him to my ult list.
But my gosh, Changgu is absolutely adorable. Wooseok talent. Huhu idk if second tier bias or...
***Not to be this obsessive OT10 fan, but I really like Dawn (formerly E’Dawn), so I’m writing his skills as well: Great composer (Shine, one of my faves huhu), such a great Rapper (he gets some amount of hate for his voice, but I actually really like it!), Main Dancer (what a good dancer tbh), and very unique personality. I love him, he’s so talented. (But anyway, even with him gone, Pentagon isn’t lacking! They’re still so great!)
If you wanna see my fave visuals, click below:
The legendary Yuto ponytail
PG-13 Hongseok GIFs only!!!
Also PG-13 Changgu only
Sweet sweet Kino
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Reposting for reasons
Response to Honest’s post here:
Doing this to spread this awareness more as I know theres a bit of a rift in the critical community - plus I really fucking go on. Im PISSED and I do apologise however it NEEDS urgent addressing. I know people will hate me for it but Im used to hate and honestly? Hating rather than helping to solve the issue only furthers my fucking point here. So yeah this is so more people are aware (no offense to any of those involved in said rift either, but this is an important message. Thank you for understanding and if I can do anything to make all sides comfortable, then please message me and I’ll do my upmost.)
“ More awareness of this is needed. Even if it’s your favourite, you can’t justify their shit but rally against another’s shit.
Have people tell you you’re experiences arent real or invalid because, like Husk, people have - in real life - shipped you with someone you are far from comfortable with but you still treat them like a person. Because you have basic respect. And people force you to accept harassment, touching, stalking, advances for THEIR satisfaction. People use you for their fantasies. But you’re just a ‘tsundere’ for it. Or you have addiction issues but people think being with another addict will ‘save’ you because you’re apparently too incompetent to save yourself. Love isnt some magic fuckin cure so stop romanticising it as a fuckin saviour. It’s gross and fuckin creepy. Get stalked and have someone NEVER accept your no just because you show youre still decent enough to not treat them shitty or any different from anyone else. Try having someone way older or way younger (both in morally fucked up ways) advance on you and people encourage that. People you’re supposed to feel safe around.
People touch you when you pull away or show discomfort. Follow you home. Have pictures of you and wont accept you dont like them like that and it’s not ‘playing hard to get’ or ‘the thrill of the chase’. Fuck. OFF. In fact, Im not only disappointed in the fandom. Im disappointed in the entire team who some should know better from their OWN personal experiences - or at least the bare minimal of being a fucking adult. Im disappointed in especially females (sorry idk whether girl or woman is more appropriate here-) who statistically are more likely to have experienced something similar at some point in their lives think this is a cute gay moment. No. Angel is made out as a fucking predator - Im not saying he is, Im saying that his persistence is very fucking unwelcome like one. People like Husk dont need that fucking invasiveness. They/We need patience and someone on our level. Angel’s I know are the fuckin polar opposite - and some of them I know are very sexually harassing, including unwanted touching. It’s a shitty way to present gay people. Gays are fuckin people. Some are cunts and some arent. It’s a HUMAN thing. But considering the shit theyve been subjected to, presenting a gay as a victim only to also show them as a perpetrator is insulting! And for those Ive seen argue this about how people like AD wouldnt know how to express their love normally and whatnot? His pig. His best friend. He’s in his fucking 30s. There are literal real life criminals who get molested as kids and then go on to molest kids. Not all who grow up like that turn into nonces. Stop just fucking STOP justifying and romanticising this bullshit! I used to see the good in AD but now he makes me fucking sick. Especially with my verrrrrry fucking real traumas and connections. But fuck me, eh? Because this fictional guy matters so much more. Fuck real victims. And whilst we’re at it, fuck AD too when it suits your fetishes! Sarcasm aside, the fans and the team need to straighten up their abhorrent behaviour.
Stolas. Fucking clearly having an affair, knowingly fucking up his daughter’s mental health and bribing a guy into sex who only wants the book and nothing more. He even has a fucking warning button over Stolas- Guys, how do you think any of this is cute? Even the team gross me out- I genuinely see potential and talent and it’s all gone to shit to satisfy horny teens, horny adults, and literally everyone who doesnt for the life of them understand being an adult is more than sex, drugs, violence and swears! I REALLY want to keep enjoying HB/HH but it’s getting harder and harder with such ignorant and bordering lazy creators (note: lazy as in wont do the fucking research or actually listen to real criticism and victims), such despicable fans (yeah, some HDers fuckin mocked that they triggered my ED, yet they had the fucking NERVE to support Angel’s potential ED AND laugh and blame me for me getting treated so badly for actually having the balls to call Angel and the teams hypocrisy. I got told to kill myself, that my problems arent real - oh but Angels apparently is! Which... They *are* but AD isnt real so technically only onlookers will suffer and not a drawing - and they just excused their toxic behaviours. These people are like “aww poor angie babey!” yet fuckin INSULT sex workers. All this red in Hazbin yet it feels everyone and they mama colour blind. The issues are getting worse and fans are outright becoming EVIL, VILE, Vindictive little bullies - from kids to adults. You SHOULD be ashamed of yourself if you conduct yourself in such a manner. And you need to readjust your attitudes and behaviours because the only fuckers getting hurt are actual fucking victims. Ever been violated and been gaslit so much you STILL fucking question it’s reality? So you drown that shit out yet somehow it’s effects still hit you? Fetishise it. Make it your uwu gae couple goals, you’re no better than people believing Harley and the Joker werent toxic af. If this shit happened to you, most of you would actually SEE where we’re all coming from. Also, stop making gay a fetish - you’re like those creepy old men in the alley heckling lesbians to make out so they can wank off. Gays, no ALL the LGBT+ are fucking people too. So dont give me that bullshit then start turning everything just gay or just straight to mentally wank off to. It’s degrading and dehumanising. And yes, fiction does effect reality. You crush on a fictional character? Mourn one? Support one? Hell, fuckin jerk off to one - that’s affecting reality. Remember how in fiction all blacks were treated as villians? Look how theyre treated IRL. JAWS, great classic unfortunately their was a spike in shark killings over a fucking movie - the shark in the movie wasnt even real for the most part because they dont behave like that! (Also the animatronic was so shit they genuinely had so many issues - I think they even took to naming each one! Some fun trivia there!). Tiger sharks are more nasty than great whites as tiger sharks will hunt and eat a human. Great whites prefer seals and dislike human flesh, they just mistake us for seals. Hell, theres the toothless basking shark - theyre often SWAM WITH by divers for being so friendly. Yet Jaws made people think all sharks are bloodlusting over humans. Slenderman was created for a fucking contest and that influenced a stabbing (NOT Victor’s fault). Watch a horror movie that isnt based on a real life event and tell me that at least ONE has left you peaking over your shoulder.
Stella may be a bitch - we dont know for certain - but try getting cheated on. Y’know what? Try growing up in such a broken home like Octavia. Yeah reaaaaaal fucking cute now, huh? Funny how as well y’all petition for male victims to be taken seriously then laugh when fictional males experience this abuse, further adding to stigma. You can be hit on by the hottest mf on the planet but if you arent interested, that should be respected! Also we’ve all been inspired by at least one fictional character so yeah. Yknow, since I was little Ive been fighting for sex worker and homeless rights. But HH/HB treatment of both leave a bitter taste in my mouth. I’ll still fully support sex workers and the homeless, but that’s the fucking effect this show is having. Bearing in mind I wont ever share everything Ive been through - and I shouldnt fucking have to in order to be believed and validated (obvs proof is required in a legal case but that’s a whole other topic). Why should I share MY fucking pain especially when you fuckers have belittled and triggered it more so? We have our rights to our secrets but fuck ME you lot NEED to start acting appropriately and like decent fucking humans. ‘iTs HeLl’ yeah and welcome to Earth- the team and yourselves live HERE. You obide by THESE rules. And as someone with beliefs (and a LOT of ancient fucking texts and studies on this shit) their Hell isnt even a proper Hell! It’s closer to purgatory and even then it’s not. Regardless, it’s a poorly built world with the lore consistently changing per episode and tweet, with many plot holes, and is apparently easy to get into - even via accidentally watching porn according to a stream. If youre gonna parade youre a fucking expert and research into demonology and use real believed figures, at least get THAT right. In fact, Lucifer and Lilith (and Stolas tbf) are ESPECIALLY risky as theyre a lot more complex than most easy access texts will tell you. Likewise, Stolas’s first introduction and main focus is sex. He’s one of the FEW Goetia demons that dont have some involvement in relationship issues at ALL. He’s known for astrology, crystals and herbs but hes also known to aid MONEY troubles (it’s lesser known but it’s true! HB Stolas is an insult to the Prince). Turning Vodou into something evil is vile considering it’s powerful and liberated slaves. Pentagrams are nothing to do with Satan, they’re magic based sigils. Upside down cross is the symbol of a SAINT. It’s just some edgy attempt to trick people into believing they know more than they do. Also you should NEVER dabble and doodle sigils without knowing the meanings or respecting what they behold.
Vox and Val, real fuckin cute way to make them look like a stupid fucking highschool drama instead of a fucking SEX TRAFFICKER (note: real pimps often target YOUNG folks too - aka minors - and groom them into sex work. Theres different types of pimp. Viv has shown barely any understanding of ‘the game’ and its a fucking insult to injury. Yes we KNOW what a fucking pimp and prozzie are! We dont need to see it. We need REAL AWARENESS.) and a fucking scheming bastard of a CEO salesman botman. And yet even THEN lets go a step further and make some yandere wuv on boyfweind aboose! Fuck off- Now I love a good anime but these tropes are getting fucking dangerous now. And unrealistic to real love and relationships. Kids nowadays know fuck all on a healthy relationship (neither did the fuckin 50s tbf) and Im seeing more romaticism and glorifying abusive situations. Like the show ‘You’. Ok, there’s a fuckin bloke online who slaughtered innocents and kidnapped yet people commented how cute he is on his IG and that they want to be kidnapped or killed by him next. Dont believe me? Look up Peter Manfredonia Connecticut and the comments people left him and then tell me why shit like whats being presented in HH/HB ISNT fucking concerning - because it is. For a series about redemption, it’s brilliant at the opposite (Quote from the creator herself, Viv has posted that it’s influencing her bad choices. Even as a joke, proof’s in the pudding). And the overall focus on sex in the way Viv does is so immature and really creepy, and this is from an ADULTS perspective. From one adult to another, Im concerned as to why any of them think this is a normal fixation. Then again they’ve hired quite a large amount of dodgy folks and even a child. Most of this shit gets avoided with a basic background check like most companies run.
I DO like Hazbin. Or the premise. I love some of the cast and spite the others. In Helluva, I just like a tiny portion of the cast. And I critique it so harshly because Viv DOES need a wakeup slap, grounding to reality, people who arent going to big her up or kiss her arse for once and shape her up to be the best she can be. The actually reach and even surpass her potential. And to reach where you need to be, there’s a lot of harsh lessons youll face. That’s life. Shes chosen one of the most HEARTLESS industries and if she blocks out critique as ‘hate’ then she’s not strong enough and wont last. It’s just another unprepped YanDev again (except I dont believe Viv to be a nonce. Even with her dodgy past and dodgy present, I think her perspective on sex and relationship with sexuality is FAR from healthy BUT I dont believe she’s a pedophile. Ive bled my fair share and so far, I just think her sex perspective isnt healthy or mature for her age. But there’s little to nothing to suggest actual noncery - dont worry about accusations there. But YanDev is totally a dirty predator. Just clearing that up). Viv NEEDS some harshness and stability if she wants to do things right. And it’ll make her fucking cry but if she loves these projects as much as she claims to, then you’ll sacrifice blood, sweat and tears for that shit. Even the strongest points are mediocre at best when properly observed. She CAN do more, but she’ll have to face the harsh music.
Viv wont see this, but if she does, I dont care if it upsets her. Why? Because this is that much of an issue - something she’s cultivated - that she needs to take action and not ignore it or be secretive about it. She needs to grow up and get tougher skin. Im not saying this to cause her pain. In fact, I wouldnt waste my fucking limited time if I DIDNT care. Trust me, I have duties to be met at a certain quota every single day. I say this shit only because I give a shit and care. If we met, she’d fucking hate me. But people like me are good for shaping people up to their potential. And we arent always this ‘tough love’ either. But when someone needs that level of harshness to help themselves, we’re not afraid to lose people or cause upset if the results end up being the best for them. If she ever saw this, she needs to re fucking evaluate her message, her story, and those she’s choosing to welcome into her circle. And all Im seeing is one rookie mistake after the other. Her paid patreon discord. Just like the messages Honest has posted on her side of being harassed (not in Vivs fyi), Ive experienced shit and bullying and even stay silent on their for being attacked for a group I fuckin paid to be in and yet I feel isolated. It’s all arsekissing and ‘thank you viv’ (thats an actual channel-) and it feels like a place of borderline worship and people trying to appease her 24/7 whilst kicking others with different opinions down. There’s so many I love but I aint kissin yer fuckin arse. Ask the closest friend I have - we’re fucking raw and wont just side with each other just because. We’ll call each other out if we think they’ve fucked up and then help each other build themselves up better. Because real fuckin people who actually care wont just want to be adored by you. They’ll care enough to point out your bullshit and help you, even if they upset you at the time. They’re real and upfront with you. People like us arent always the easiest to be close to either because we arent afraid of upsetting someone if it’s in their best interest and to help them. Likewise, we dont go out looking for fights either. Most times, we’re fuckin soft bastards- All this shit listed is the fuckin surface level of the real life hell of this fandom. And unsurprisingly, those who experience little to no toxicity have always been higher on that popularity ‘food chain’ - enough admirers and shared opinions that people wanna arse kiss regardless of their OWN feelings as well as neutral perspectives. I’d say you’re the lucky fans, but you’re not. You’re sheltered, and that isnt always the best way to be sadly.
As for the fans. If Ive upset you. Well... I dont care. Because many of you have actively sought me out and weaponised my traumas against me. You never cared about my feelings then. Why should I care about yours? Im not doing this out of malice. Im fed up of humans behaving so pathetically yet claiming to be high and mighty. Most of you have been arseholes to those in and out of the community. The victims and non-victims alike. Hardly any of you considered once my real suffering. You put a drawing over a life. Many lives. You had the audacity to tell me Im full of shit. Some even using my real traumas to make a mockery of me and those Im around with a very similar history. Some with traumatic histories that differ from my own. You hardly ever considered the real lives of those effected. So no, Im not sorry for having the fucking balls to this day to still stand up for our rights and give us a voice that’s long been stolen. Im not sorry for being a fucking victim. Im not sorry for saying what desperately NEEDS voicing. And Im not sorry for not conforming to you or any fandom just to belong. We deserve better than to constantly be your fuckin arse monkeys (well... the trope is butt monkey but yknow-) and to be mistreated, misrepresented and harmed by you. You’re no different to the school bullies who give speeches on anti-bullying day. And I hope every single one of you starts looking into yourselves and improving.
PS: Depending on the texts you read, Lucifer is said to have been redeemed or to be redeemed. Fun fact to haunt yalls with~ “
#warning long#long post#hazbin critical#very long rant#important#hear victims voices#just sick of how awful people can treat one another and believe this is acceptable#everyone is accountable#toxic fanbase#Toxic shippers#toxic ships#im literally too fucking old for this#forgive the anger but after years and years it gets so cumbersome and tiring#im happy to be the pariah if it means victims actually get heard and helped
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RQG 153
And we're 30 seconds in and I just got hit by the realization Azu isn't going to see the sky for a week. I know its not under water in enemy territory but that also means she doesn't have a mission to distract her.
I love Cel! Zolf tries to do a leadership and prep them for what to expect (since they don't need the element of surprise this time) so Cel changes form because rats are more easily entertained. Alex has to come in with the restrictions but still a nice way to remind Zolf this is not the nice neat chain of command he remembers. Yeah reverting is better than "ha ha you're now a rat all week". OctoCel!
Nice! Zolf is declaring Family Game Night.
Speaking of leadership, Hamid remembers this isn't season 1 and thanks Zolf instead of asking the reasonable but not productive questions of where this was last time.
Alex points out the space issue again. Still not sure if he did this on purpose as a way to poke at the party and see how they react or if he just didn't design the space big enough last time and refuses to retcon an extra cell into the basement. TBF if there had been 2 cells last time, Hamid & Azu sharing wouldn't have made sense and if they couldn't hug the fandom might have never forgiven Zolf & Wilde.
Oh Cel can change 4 times a day
Zone of Truth or Dare
Not sure if he is joking or not but Zolf getting out of conversation by melting into a wall is an image
Thanks Lyd!
Hamid "is fine and he can snuggle up with Azu". Thanks Bryn!
Barnes makes Carter switch so he can get some sleep
Hamid is such a good person. He isn't trying to charm or justify, it isn't about abstract team cohesion. He just gives a sincere apology for not following the rules because even if he doesn't understand, he does trust that Zolf wouldn't hold him to them without reason.
Zolf is great too, and tells Hamid it isn't needed
Zolf has grown so GD much! He just cited his leaving and prompted Hamid to ask any questions. Oh I want everything on those 18 months but maybe Hamid shouldn't press when its so hard for him, especially when he can't leave the room if things get rough? I am so conflicted.
Thats my little leader, immediately switches the focus to working together again.
Ow "honestly we were never that good at working together anyway" so no rosy glasses on Zolf. Helen's gasp is, as ever, a mood
Zolf still has that negative charisma. I can't explain how much I like that his mental health kick didn't turn him into a different person. Him tripping over his tongue on things like this is part of why he isn't a Zolf in name only, like I feared when I found out we were getting him back after his breakdown.
Aw Azu & Cel offer them the illusion of privacy as Hamid pretends he isn't hurt.
I love Cel's hammock and their shipping. Pausing before it can be jossed, don't think he can duck this time. Called it. Okay but he did admit he cares about Wilde just not romantically and canon doesn't have to see eye to eye with fic.
Carter tried to date Wilde? Or at least pursued him?
God bless Hamid is cutting straight to the rank issue. Look I know I have a proper thing about rank and that respecting Hamid's growth means not treating him like season 1, but people need to know who is calling the shots in time sensitive, dangerous situations.
The proper response to the suggestion they fight it out is not to point out logistical barriers
Zolf points out that if Hamid actually fought they would all die which is a heck of a double edged statement. It respects his power while pointing out the collateral damage. Then he points out he would win in a no magic fight which is true but if Hamid doesn't already have a complex about his self worth & magic I'd be amazed.
Azu tries to declare they aren't doing this while Hamid comes in with the lore. Because Bryn loves the listeners and wants us to be happy. Ooh if the claws aren't magic magic what about the rest? not that I want him to get pissed enough to breathe fire or whatever it was that got him scaley but at least he can't isn't relying on his wits if they encounter one of these fields in the field.
Is Carter being Carter or is he stealing Wilde's bit of uniting the party in hating him?
The irony that explaining why Zolf should lead is the single best proof of Hamid's leadership skills is not lost on me. A real leader puts the good of the party above any desire for rank or power.
Not sure if this counts as yelling should probably mark as starting around 10 minutes in for CWs
Ok I don't know why I am so pleased and surprised at these two having a direct conversation with past incidents as examples using clear language like "I was frustrated". I mean lord knows RQ told toxic masculinity to take a hike from the beginning so maybe its less surprised than grateful? They don't agree but are clearly more concerned with understanding than with getting in a pissing match.
"...And I guess I'm not that old because I haven't lived through the 18 months" Look at him learning to stand up for himself while still being fair to the other side. How can you not love him?
Bless, Hamid is worse than me, if I talk quick enough the right words will come out before I run out of courage right?
I love the peanut gallery.
Oh dear that's a tone on Zolf I'm just going to take a moment before the "but" comes in.
Zolf is being fair, I don't necessarily agree but he is being fair and sounds willing to listen.
Hamid spells it out in small words that the flippant tone is a coping mechanism.
Zolf wants to move on to the rest of the party now that they've said what needed to be said to each other. Yeah sorry Carter, Hamid isn't going to let Zolf get lost in his own head any more than Zolf is going to let Hamid run into danger because if he thought about it he would freeze.
And Carter & Barnes are sharing all the tricks. Guess Hamid isn't the only one who does better if he can merc a guy after a hard week
They are having a direct conversation about Zolf leaving!
Backstory! So it was a debt more than a calling
Brynterval, useful I needed a laugh break too and this way I don't miss anything.
They are keeping up the relationship metaphor for all its worth. It really does work though.
Azu quit alluding and tell us your story.
Aw he's retelling Dover! I ever tell you guys that's when I quit waiting for him and or RQ to show their bad side? The damn romance novels were like a promise they weren't going to betray the story over "what's expected". I was so braced for that stupid "pick a fight with the toughest guy in the yard to buy respect" trope. Instead they just said nope: no prison fights, no guard abuse, his biggest danger is developing an addiction to cheap books.
Thank you Cel!
Hamid mentioning Mr Ceiling reminds Zolf that still have Shoin's brorb.
Oh the diary
Zolf has more Campbells
Cel is awesome and asks if Hamid want to talk about Aziza
Liliana finally got mentioned, realizing Hamid was the last to know about that part of the story hurt
So they might be a hivemind
Carter has a nice little cache in the cell of daggers & a wide variety of booze.
Carter suggests they should get so drunk their minds aren't worth hiving.
Oh Cel & the Elvish mead
Carter is drinking the Orcish whiskey to make a point
Yeah, yeah, how the heck Hamid came through not only his life preseries but this adventure with a healthy relationship with alcohol is beyond me. Not a patch on his experience and I'm teetotal. That's arguably why it's important to have though (plus if they went anywhere with an alcoholism plot I probably won't be able to listen)
Barnes has the rum and is Jeff Goldblum posing.
I love one(1) low charisma man. Zolf is trying to draw Azu & Cel into conversation.
Azu backstory time! A vision of Aphrodite in her dream led her to follow a wandering paladin.
Little leader tucks Carter in
Azu asks for Cel backstory
Cel is around 97, and they were raised in America. Their Dad was a merchant sailor. The trade cut off and defenses failed destroying the town.
Its time to give Hamid crap about capitalism. Zolf tells Barnes to leave off.
Zolf joined the Navy because he "killed his brother"!?! Wanna try that again with details? Oh Zolf honey it was an accident.
Hamid hugs Zolf while he talks. Zolf says all that then knocks stone out of ceiling in a demonstration of his powers.
Hamid remembers Zolf wasn't in Cairo and starts describing the prank gone wrong and I'm just gonna take another sec because if Zolf doesn't take this the right way its gonna hurt.
Did Hamid just quote Grizzop at Zolf?
Cel just declared they are staying with the party
Just barely through the first quarantine episode. We might hit the same ratio as the dungeon after all.
Gosh I love that theme tune
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CoMC Chapter 48
CHAPTER 48
Ideology
32 minutes
As the name implies, this is MC and Villefort having an extremely heated philosophical conversation, in which V thinks MC is absolutely insane. Not sure why he would think that, since all MC is saying is perfectly normal things like that he sold his soul to the devil to become an instrument of Providence, and also some thinly veiled completely unveiled personal insults.
Actually this is hilarious. You know my PDF that has particular lines from the book, from which I occasionally strike gold and find the Actual Spelling of someone’s name? This chapter’s literally just Villefort going “Sir--Sir please--”
Proof:
That’s spectacular.
We do find out that M. Noirtier had an apoplexy years back and is pretty well neutralized. Something Villefort says makes MC groan deep in his soul, although I don’t quite get it. It’s basically that V thinks his daddy had a stroke as God’s punishment for his sins, which… seems like a weird thing to think about your own father, but tbf his father was an actual murderer so in this one case it might be valid. Generally a horrible viewpoint though that I do not like.
PS, OH MY GOD I figured out who he’s reminding me of!!!
(All credit to the glorious HP comics from https://floccinaucinihilipilificationa.tumblr.com/, which I just realized I can finally subscribe to now that I have an actual tumblr!!)
#Eddis Reads Monte Cristo#count of monte cristo#spoilers#floccinaucinihilipilification#10 points to Monte Cristo#something different up next#Chapters return tomorrow ;)#oh lol I said chapters return tomorrow when I had it on 3 a day#it doesn't make sense anymore
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Your military based OCs inspire me to want to make one, but I'm nervous about that kind of stuff being inaccurate about facts D: How do you do it?
Hello!!Oh man, thank yoU ❤️. And YES, join the heist!I will put it under read more; since I wanna answer your question best to my ability, a.k.a extensively.
OKAY, SO, to answer your question: I’d gone through the same ordeal and it can be a struggle. I didn’t know much about the military except for the scarce tidbits you can find online, but, there are few ways you can educate yourself in that aspect:First of all, the very basics. What nationality your OC is, where will they serve, what were they like growing up and what made them join, etc; it might seem trivial at first, but trust me, it’s important.What I suggest doing is, if your OC happens to be, say, British, you can search up reputable British authors (preferably former soldiers or SoO) and pick books specifically describing combat maneuvers. Keep in mind, however, that those are largely made up scenarios inspired by real events; still, they provide valuable insight as to how specific groups operate (a bit of a hit or miss that one, but it’s better than nothing).Then there are authors, who, given their broad knowledge and experience, pile it all up and provide you a guide of sorts. Usually, there’s a thorough description of the inner structure, chain of command, the history behind the unit and the reason for its formation, preferred weapons and equipment, the selection process, and so on. I find these to be immeasurably valuable, especially once you are satisfied with your initial draft.Therefore; if you have an idea already in mind, go with it and then search up the bits and pieces of information online before you supplement it with additional literature.If you want to come up with a soldier from the eastern part of Europe, books detailing the Russian army will do for the most part (the post-soviet countries that is; the military structure’s been largely untouched since that period). The writers/titles I can suggest on top of my mind are:Supervivencia - “CCCP Red Army Special Forces Spetsnaz”Viktor Suvorov - “Spetsnaz”Mark Galeotti - “Spetsnaz - Russia’s Special Forces”William H. Burgess - “Inside Spetsnaz: Soviet Special Operations”For British SAS, I’ve found John Wiseman’s “The SAS Survival Handbook” to be of great use (he has a really extensive bibliography for that very purpose tbf)If we’re talking about hired guns, a.k.a Soldiers of Fortune and all corporate manners of mercs, my two hot takes:Peter W. Singer - “The Private Military Industry and Iraq: What have we learned and where to next?”Christop Kinsey - “Corporate Soldiers and International Security, The Rise of Private Military Companies (2006)”The third option, which can be either a very frustrating experience or a goldmine; join forums where retired soldiers and vets offer their fair share of experience.If you do, keep in mind that people who join these are folks aspiring to become recruits one day; so having me prep a thread in there and explain as to why I did was met with various reactions at the time. Few members seemed weirded out, while others were delighted to see I wanted to be precise in my fiction and were very eager to help. I have compiled a massive doc for personal use thanks to’em, and the experience altogether was very satisfying; everyone was super kind and pleasant to deal with. Lastly; I can offer a bit of a small trivia that might help get you started:- There is a cultural gap between East and West, and that, too, affects the military structure and people’s view on it. I find West to be extremely formal, as they treat the army as a separate way of life. It’s a completely different take in the East; the army is actually viewed favorably upon (same applies to Poland, though we’re right in the center we used to be part of the Soviet Union. You could say we have this weird mixture of both mindsets intertwined together).
Oddly enough, this also seems to affect how the soldiers themselves tend to behave? It’s a weird statement, I know, but I happen to see Russian/Ukrainian/Polish soldiers much more easy-going and open to discuss the cons and pros behind their job. Westerners usually skip the subject altogether or give very vague answers (especially if they’re part SoF)- Not every special force soldier is a black belt.CQC (Close Quarter Combat) adds up to around 25-36 hours per the whole training course, therefore it boils down to pure essentials and bare grind. Soldiers are taught how to tackle down their opponent quickly and efficiently; it’s all about speed. There’s no such thing as self-defense techniques; that’s the kind of unrealistic horseshit you get from Hollywood movies. Additionally, there are no secret techniques regarding hand-to-hand combat. Krav Maga, despite the popular opinion, is not that special. It’s neither good nor bad, but nothing sets it apart. If you happen to get a hold of a SoF, they will admit that the best techniques stem from… MMA.
I’m dead serious; hear me out.MMA, in all fairness, is a system that compiles the best moves of all available techniques out there. A combination of MMA and BJJ (especially the latter) seems to be favored by a wide variety of Western forces due to its effectiveness. As far as you are concerned, you want to tackle your opponent down the moment you see them (speaking strictly of unarmed combat) - render them vulnerable. For some cool trivia; look up the involvement of Gracie Brothers and Delta Force (and the logos for both; Delta Operators and Gracie Jiu-Jitsu School )Keeping that in mind, it’s worth noting that CQC can be referred to combat that takes place at 100 meters or less; so gunfights are in!- Special Operation Forces are very, VERY quirky people! I noticed everyone has this belief that operators tend to be serious, no-nonsense people that fear nothing and no one.Let me tell you, that’s an exaggerated statement. During my time at the forums, I’ve met a handful of people that claimed to be SoF and few even provided actual proof. Regardless, some of them asked me very throughout questions about the nature of my fic (good morning I want to RP a realistic soldier, huge fan thanx) and apologized in advance in case I found all the attention overwhelming. I asked whether or not a trait like that is common amongst their colleagues, to which they replied that it depends on the person more or less, but it’s not an isolated occurrence! Normally you want to figure out your surroundings and adjust well enough, adapt so to speak; if you can learn something new, they’re all in for it - it may come in handy sooner or later. And they really do grasp stuff quick, fuck me.In general, they are polite, quiet and laid back people. There were one or two cases of somewhat “arrogant” fellows I’ve had to deal with, but it was nothing too drastic IMO.- Soldiers who claim to fear nothing and no one. Doesn’t happen; unrealistic af. In fact, there was this one interview, where a Blackwater executive admitted to having turned down so many potential employees exactly because of that. A man who thinks himself fearless is not only delusional but becomes a liability to himself and his own unit. In fact, most recruitment officers are in favor of hiring already married soldiers; these men will always take fewer risks and make for a more compelling fighting force in the end.- Whether an ordinary ground troop or all-out skilled SoF, no man can singlehandedly cause havoc or prevent it. Another Hollywood trope so to speak; one-man army. It simply doesn’t happen.
-RPing/writing about soldiers includes, besides occasional gunfights, figuring out basic medical terminology and educating yourself about respective procedures for each sustained injury.- SoF soldiers usually excel at two roles; a single special forces operator can be both a remarkable marksman and a field medic.- Humor is essential - it helps elevate pressure in between skirmishes.
- PTSD doesn’t always boil down to sheer anxiety and sleep insomnia. A PTSD can well enough turn into an OCD of sorts; looking out of a window for hours on end despite having no reason to do so, counting your possessions, hoarding objects of no importance. It can be very personal or right at your face- Some individuals find themselves unable to retire early; the bond between them and their unit, the belief of doing something good (or of putting themselves to better use out there) and constant adrenaline rush are too appealing of an option to refuse. IMO it’s completely normal if you consider the following: those people had worked together for a couple of months and under extremely hazardous circumstances.
Danger brings people together, it’s only natural; all of you want to survive and help one another while doing so, having formed a prior bond.
All in all, everyone’s different and everything can influence your OC’s choices and decisions, hence why I feel having come up with their backstory, such as nationality and alike, shortens the process significantly; you know where to look at and for what.
Hope you’ve found my lil wall of text useful! In case you’re in need of literature for that exact purpose, feel free to shoot me a message!
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Fangbone PageとScreen
Yep, another at long last, I have a terminal some free time, and some actual encouragement.
Sorry but as these screenshots from me from a hastily web-based editor ... but well I just gotta continue
Shout outs to @badkunrules @brusk-ghost @nubeth @cricketgreens @its-yasleepygal @ghostofawolf300 @vaultpanda101 @rosy319 @cartoonfan7 @tortugadechocolate
And not forgotten the aid of
@book-series-fandom and @cordset
And any other Suburban Barbarians I missed and I hope you keep with the encouragement or make or share love of your own of the series
Again this is as amateur as gets but hope to have some insights and sometimes, with a web project, its about just keeping it going. And thanks for the encouragement to do thatl
I updated the last installment for a *brief* look on how the toe ended up in Bill’s backpack and Fangbone ends up meeting him compared to the graphic novel
This is, now that I think about it, really and VERY strongly where the two stories and depictions diverge. GN Fangbone is sly, wily, and cunning. But with our increased kinetic action.... well
Fangbone accuses Bill, ignorant of everything of theft but the Krakken catches up snatches him yanks him about, to comedic affect and then...throws him
With REMARKABLE Hangtime,
Moreso factoring in the scene where Bill is in his PJs, presumably after dinner being tucked in by his mother, notices glow and effluvium from it leading to the toes discovering presumbling parallel to the above.
Likely screaming and flying some hours in the air
He does need a nap.
Needless to say this if VERY different from his ‘infiltration’ into class 3-G of the same day
TBF the Forging of Friendship is combination of the Summit of Swords plot, where the Shadowsteppers and Mighty Lizard Clan meet to negotiate their feud to non-mutual extinction levels, AND the flashback to the cartoon’s version of their first adventure.
The change up in pacing as well as circumstances lead for a more dramatic arc and number of action scenes as to the immediate friendship that forms then grows stronger as the stakes get more severeof the GN. And also illustrate the difference between GN and CN Fangbone and Bill.
Like so,
as on the next day, and start of the next Flashback framed as Bill reasoning with Axebear on a trampoline and Fangbone with One-Eyed the Slippery at Weinerdogs, Bill is admiring the toe when fangbone attacks
. . .Or tries too
Despite this amazing lack of tactical comprehension and proof of his safety Bill panics and RUNS OUTSIDE where
He is snatched up by a prepared trap, which does show while more obviously buffoonish this Fangbone DOES have his own means and cunning. In fact this slightly turns around the near constant humiliation and embarrassment that’s been befalling our favorite 3rd grade barbarian.
While STILL insisting Bill is a thief this is where, unable to show you proper with just pictures (please don’t get struck down)
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We finally get their first proper meeting and for all that its got Fangbone raging and being stubborn its actually a nice bit of characterization for both individually and set up for how we can see these two getting along.
Taylor and Colin really deserve a thumbs up for the rapidfire overlap filled with characterization. As Bill seems more intrigued and gleeful and Fangbone is fronting. To a degree, he HAS to know this is *his* screw up and he’s projecting some and puffing himself up to assert himself over his plain as day weakness and poor performance and confusion.
Bill does prove not *quite* as foolish as thought, between jumping out of the door it seems he hid the toe in a gambit.
This is sort of the closest analogue in the GN
Eventually Bill is cut down
questions fangbone and then reveals where hid toe, his locker,
But then finds it *wiggling* and that means
Heh, the CN REALLY emphasizes action in these encounters as the characterization, buildup, and worldbuilding is in the framing device... and also past episodes.
Fangbone is eager to stand his ground and “dance the dance of death” But Bill, as can imagine, RUNS
This leads to Fangbone being distracted at the fleeing toe and gaining concussion number six or so (this episode) running after pursued by krakken.
As can see we really don’t emphasize the bond with the class this episode or encounter them as the GN was building things up with Fangbone and establishing a more...well I’m not sure mature but as least not the same overaggressive character. Plus setting, and general sense of boys adventure written and pictured story.
I mean GN Fangbone knows to ask to be excused to “make droppings” During which we get the stranger in a strangeland cliches people can note like this
Also meet Duncan, he didn’t make the adaptation. At all. Not even a hint.
PRAISE BE TO STONEBACK (and his prophets Simon Racioppa and Richard Elliott) But seriously ANOTHER character difference
Like night and day. Part of it is the style choices in the artforms. Fangbone even when gesticulating never seems that out of it. And he handles this challenge smoothly and like he knows what he’s doing. whereas, admittedly because unlike this one which hasn’t have a different battle (aside from a rusted scrapheap) we haven’t seen him fail or tricked yet. In fact he’s, more out of luck but still, being the clever one.
This is even more of a divergence. See In the GN Fangbone is very focused on mission and life. While it is here at long last we see monsters, though some were in a narrated flashback to the class, attack Fangbone and see the writhing of the foul footfinger macguffin of Morg
And the attack of the first of three monsters
the Dirt devil trio
Admittedly not the most clever or involved of fights but they indicate Bill’s quick wit and how this will contribute to Fangbone and Bill’s friendship and battles. At first Bill thinks Fangbone is cool and has obvious vulnerabilities. They talk and interact. Bill sees fangbone triumph over things big to him that are as nothing to Fangbone.
And Fangbone sees the immediate benefit to Battle in bill’s awareness, dovetailing with his ambitions to build an army, making him remarkably more controlled and yet less obedient or drone like? Less a model barbarian? Its just something that stands out.
Also this leads to a feature of both series, what every adventurous duo needs hideouty/digs
Cavebania is found and was introduced to Fangbone by Bill. This is a touch that’s put aside in the Forging of Friendship but a similar scene could be
afterwards with Bill freaking out at home somehow ditching Kraken and Fangbone by bus, hoping he doesn’t know what one is and then. okay damn
Again after the near humilation conga of incompentence Fangbone is proving himself more than the buffoon he’s played as the closer his and Bill’s worlds meet.
What happens is the series taking advantage of motion and set up action scenes happening so fast aren’t robbed of threat or excitement.. even if the direct confrontation is ended
Because fangbone impaled his sword at a door and Bill pulled out a cheap plastic light up toy that scares him.
But then bill *gets it* Fangbone “isn’t from around here” and this is the scene it feels they genuinely calm down and commiserate. Fangbone finally being allowed to chill Bill returns the toe .. then it writhes
Fangbone actually suggests luring it to Bill’s room as believes it will trap and confuse and scare it like it has him. But instead...
Another opening image shout out
As they pedal away to better ground as Fangbone awkwardly rides in back swording off arms in desperate attempt to avoid attack.
Really the differences is this is more near the end of the series and giving us a lot of charming firsts, made all the moreso with the framing device, how we see Fangbone can be loudspoken and childish but plenty focused and consider even wise, to a degree, as to overly severe and fruitless. Bill is more childish but more...socially aware and intrigued. And that exchanging of names works to get them on the same page and already cooperating and appreciating each other more.
The GN is building the concept and characters from ground up Taking its time. It also gives us more sense of two pals growing closer as to a whirlwind happenstance slamming them together.
But the snappy action and turn and reversals in such short time is efficient in the television series, while the more casual development of a regular day of a refugee also trying to see to his objectives is also nice in the graphic novel.
And the Graphic novel has even more encounters, including the more... involved bit about Fangbone and Bill’s developing friendship along with Fangbone’s with 3-G.
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RvB16 Episode 2 Review: Incendiary Incidents
(Old Blog Repost)
Last time, not a lot happened other than going out for food, Donut unlocking his true potential as a contortionist, and alien Norse Gods are a thing that exist. Nothing that unusual for this show. We got the setup, so what’ll they do with it now as the pizza quest continues? Lets find out!
Overview
To the shock of no one, Grif crashed the ship. He rushes everyone through the insults and sidenote to Kai’s… so does she actually have regular contact with their mom? Makes me really wonder about where Grif stands with his family. Anyways, good news is the pizza place isn’t far off! They just have to go through some ominous woods! Grif however opts to go through the less than ominous woods which would take longer, but isn’t… well, ominous. This gets Simmons attention. Enough that, as they make their way through, he pulls Grif aside to find out what his deal is. My shipping heart is happy to see Simmons noticing that something’s not right with his not-boyfriend and getting to the bottom of it… please tell me I didn’t accidentally write an innuendo,
So you knwo that ‘new science’ Grif mentioned last episode? Well here’s that new science: laziness… sort of! So when stuck on the moon (I THINK he called it Iris? So… after Michael and Lindsay’s daughter/Geoff’s goddaughter? AWW!), Grif found a book that Jax left behind about story structure. He found out about ‘incendiary incidents’, which are incidents that jumpstart a plot essentially I tried to look it up to see if that’s an actual term… and all I got was a bunch of fire safety websites. But I’ll take Joe’s word for it and say it’s an actual term. So Grif cutting off Jensen before, crashing the ship deliberately as it turns out due to a message from Locus, and avoiding the ominous woods is to avoid getting into an incident that would jumpstart a plot, and therefore lead them into another adventure. IDK if this is clever fourth wall breaking but… wow. WOW. Even Simmons gets chocked up about how much effort Grif put into doing nothing. It’s counterproductive when you think about it, but still!
Unfortunately for Grif, he IS in a webshow with plot structure and the powers to be aren’t going to let them get out of it that easy. Caboose discovered a glowing lake. And a figure emerges form it. Now the episode summary describes a thought to be deceased team member returning. Oh my Gd, that… that’s crazy! It could anyone! But why?! Tex? Flowers? Shelia? Church? Alpha Church? Yellow Church?! The guy who got killed during one of those 360 videos?! The possibilities are endless! It could be anyone! Who knows what kind of shocking twist it cou.. it’s Donut. Who we all knew was alive. Yeah… well I’ll give them this, it had me hyped for the episode.
So Donut… Jesus Christ. No, seriously, Donut is now Jesus. He walked ont he water for crying out loud! Donut says that he had been taken through time and that they have to go into the past to stop a great danger… and absolutely no one buys it. Now to be fair, Simmons makes a good point later. They already went through a time travel story and it turns out it was just a simulation. So them being skeptical about this happening again, especially since only Caboose saw the body horror last episode and I imagine that he forgot by now, is pretty understandable. But yeah no one buys it and Grif feels relieved about avoiding the story bomb… until Simmons points out that refusing the call is an actual story trope. See Grif? There’s no escaping!
So the Reds and Blues make it to ton and… yeah, it’s been totaled. After talking to Jeremy Dooley… I-I mean a cop… no, I’m 90% sure that was Jeremy. Anyways! After that, Donut tries to convince them of time travel again, and this time has actual proof. He has this new gun which he uses to open a portal to a few days earlier. How did he get this? Well to put it simply, after he got hit by Loco’s machine he got sent back in time and his body got wrecked, but God found him and fixed him. IDK if he means the Christian God or one of these alien Gods, but they’ve picked the Reds and Blues to be his time traveling warriors and has sent back four more guns for them to use to go back in time with. The portals can also only fit two grown humans at once.
Unfortunately, things go downhill quickly. So you guys remember the four armed guy from the trailer? Well the sky goes dark and he appears… oh sorry, typed that wrong. I mean that SHE appears. Yes everyone, we have a legit female villain at last!! I couldn’t get her name, but part of it sounded like Callie… which is my name… UGH… anyways! Yeah, she starts causing chaos and destruction. Donut uses a bubble shield, telling the others to use the portal guns and get away. They comply with everyone pairing off: Cabbose and Lopez, Tucker and Sister, Grif and Doc, and Sarge and Simmons. Donut remains behind, though I assume that he’ll follow them later. Huggins, who has been following the group, chases after Grif and Doc by going through their portal. We follow Sarge and Simmons as they land in… what looks like ancient Egypt. Could be wrong, but we’ll have to wait and find out cause that’s the end of the episode!
Review
Well all of that escalated quickly!
So… gonna talk about Grif first! Cause yes, he’s getting a character arc! I mean I guess it could have ended here since his plan failed, but since Huggins went after him and Doc we could get something on that front. Anyways, so I was right and Grif is actively trying to keep them out of getting into adventures. To the point that he’s putting effort into maintaining laziness… that’s the kind of logic I expect form this show. It wasn’t how I expected it, but I expected it. It’s also good to see that he does still have some hangups from the moon. He seems a lot more… what’s the word? High-strung than normal? He’s also still talking in pretty large bursts compared to normal. I don’t know if that’s just me reading into it too much, but it seems like Joe is trying to show that Grif still has hangups from his self-exile. Which hey, if it means more Grif focus, I am not complaining!
The episode is more about plot than the last one. Last week was the setup, and now the payoff is here. So first, Donut. He was written SO WELL. One of the issues last season was that Donut was pretty much a background prop and they even forgot to put him in scenes. Joe must have realized that this was a problem cause he’s already fixing it BIG TIME. Donut’s had shit happen man! He comes off as slightly mroe serious and competent in a sense that he actually knows the gravity of the situation. But he still feels and acts like Donut, which is good! It shows that he CAN be useful and competent, but without sacrificing his personality. Heck he only spouted out one innuendo and it was just to prove that it was really him. I am digging this new direction!
So turns out that the four armed guy si a terrifying alien goddess of death… I dig it! So someone pointed out that this character is similar to Hela from Thor: Ragnarok. SO it REALLY seems like Joe is basing the villain off Norse mythology… or just the Marvel Cinematic Universe verisons of them. Either way is fine. So I’m not sure if… Kali-Ra I think is her name? Anyways it doesn’t seem like she’s with the same group as Huggins cause I imagine that she would have reacted. I also don’t think that this chick is the main villain since DOnut referred to a ‘devil man’, but still she is terrifying and badass and I LOVE it. We finally got a female main villain guys! Joe is the hero we’ve waited for! Yay! Also Sarge asking he rot marry him, Of course he’d want to marry a violent death goddess… I’ll totes ship this!
Alright, time travel! SO ever since Joe mentioned it in that post a while ago, I’ve… been skeptical. Time travel in pretty much every show tends to be confusing and create tons of plot holes. It even happened in RvB before with Season 3 before Burnie retconned it as a simulation. Didn’t save my head from imploding, but still that’s a fair excuse. Hopefully Joe has a VERY good idea on what he’s doing with this, but I’ve been warming up to the idea since then. It’ll be fun to see the guys in different time periods at least! Form how it looks, Sarge and Simmons may go tomb raiding it it really is Ancient Egypt. I mean Sarge vs mummies, there is no way that cannot be epic!
So the gang is being split up, and the pairs are interesting! Sarge and Simmons sin’t that much of a surprise and tbf it’s been a long time since they had some one-on-one time. Simmons has also grown out of being a kissass quite a bit, so it’ll be interesting to see how that goes. Caboose and Lopez are together… so I’ just going to assume that in every animated RT production, Burnie is just meant to be stuck with/get annoyed with Joel in one way or another. Cause that is the impression I’m getting. Tucker and Sister are together, so I imagine flirting… okay I’m good with that! Hopefully Sister gets some focus to herself that isn’t just Tucker trying to hit on her, but still I’m good with this!
And finally Grif and Doc… that one is gonna be interesting. Grif in particular seems very grudgey against Doc for the betrayal and we just saw Doc save Grif form getting crushed by tackling him into the portal. Which props to Doc for that BTW. Still with that and since they’re 100 on an adventure now, Grif’s not gonna be a happy camper. Also if O’Malley gets active and starts going into Grif’s past issues like in S13, I… imagine that’ll be rough for our favorite orange boy. Also Huggins chased after them, so I assume that they’ll be discovering her soon. Which if she pals up with them…t hat could be really cute tbh! I am all for Grif and Doc shenanigans with a a ball of light! But yeah, this could lead to a LOT of things and I’m very interested in seeing how this plays out.
Final Thoughts
It was great! Admittedly this is a lot mroe bizarre than RvB has been in a while but it’s also RvB where Grif still being alive after getting hit by a tank and having Simmons organs thrown into him improperly isn’t ever questioned. Alien Norse Gods? Ia m all for it! Donut being Jesus? Awesome! More setup for Grf having a character arc? HELL YEAH MAN. It was a well done episode, progressing the plot without wasting any time, gives us a glimpse at how dangerous our villains our, gives us a badass female villain, and sets up everything for the episodes ot come. There’s definitely a feeling of epicness compared to last time, so it looks lie Joe is taking the armature gloves off and giving us one Hell of a story. I am very excited to see where it leads!
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warning, the following has mainly snarky (and possibly furious) opinions on Spirit of Justice. Reader discretion is advised.
alright... here we go. we’re starting the big one. this... thing is almost over.
we’re going back to........ kooraheen to finish this.
time to strap in for the long haul.
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did Dhurke hijack the PP show or was he just watching it and he decided to make that speech at his TV
i honestly can’t tell because of the weird way the scene was set. it looks like a reflection from a TV screen, but it also fades like a broadcast being intercepted...
fuck I'm just distracted by Dhurke’s stupid voice. and uncomfortable at the actress playing Rayfa. imagine being the princess and having your favourite show turn you into a weird damsel in distress being manhandled by ninjas. gross.
also yay! they’ve got the indiana jones orb!! time to melt off some faces...
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ok it was a hijacked show... ...why is there a news report on this in America? Are American troupes assisting in the Kooraheenese war?
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“Daaaa-aaaad. What’re you up to thiiiiis time???”
i love how not-giving-a-shit-about-it apollo is here. and by love it i mean hate it.
oh, your long-lost adoptive father just happens to pop up on television starting a revolution, and this is the first time you’ve heard from him in like 20 years? huh, no big deal.
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AND ACE ATTORNEY TURNS INTO THE JERRY SPRINGER SHOW
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oh noooo... he’s one of THESE guys... ururughhhhghghgh
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“Wait... don’t tell me you haven’t told anyone about me, son?”
“I’m sorry, dad, it’s just you didn’t exist up until now...”
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“you just show up here without warning after all this time... what gives?”
apollo’s got a point there, pa. also Dhurke’s theme reminds me of Coach Oleander’s from Psychonauts
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Apollo just instinctively knows that nobody wants to be around him unless they’re getting labour out of him. That’s... honestly really depressing. I mean I know it’s supposed to be a joke but I just can’t bring myself to laugh.
its just... apollo is legitimately so bitter and sad that i just feel awful for him.
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yeesh... this whole thing just started off super sour.
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wait, the piano has sentimental value to phoenix? they mentioned he never practiced on it and he didn’t like being a piano player... does that mean this piano is something phoenix just happened to own, and has its own backstory? I WANNA KNOW
(snerk)
ok thats mean but it did make me laugh
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the JACKET IS APOLLO’S
IT IS APOLLO’S
HOLY SHIT
the rest of this case can be total shit but at least we figured out the mystery of the discarded red jacket.
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“our houseplant was called apollo”
“was it a cactus?”
“How’d you guess?”
“cause apollo doesn’t get enough hugs, either!”
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apollos dad is so cool he reads his son’s personal shit out loud. what a great guy!
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“That’s too bad! You seem like you’d be a fun, cool guy to hang out with!”
when he wasn’t being a rebel and not having time for his kids, obviously.
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THERE IT IS!
siblings dont know theyre siblings joke is funny both normally and ironically because the writers need to FUCKIN GET ON THAT
also i love that he’s basically like “hey son, this girl doesn't resent me! you should marry her so that i can continue to get favours out of you!”
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“What did Mr. Dhurke mean when he said he was the man who raised you, apollo?”
i dunno, trucy... think with your mind brains...
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“How come you never told me?!”
“Sorry, it’s just, capcom hadn’t butchered my backstory at that point yet.”
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I honestly find it really weird that Trucy’s all chirpy about this. She of all people should know the sting of a dad just up and disappearing on you.
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Dhurke: I have to steal this orb. I’m asking you two because youre lawyers.
Kay Faraday, sitting in the Capcom warehouse: (sneezes)
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Dhurke: I made a stupid gamble. Hope you can bail me out, son I haven’t seen in 20 years!
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nooo.... don’t bring Kurain Village into this, pleeeeaaase... I don’t want to have my favourite village ruined for meeeeee....
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:3c i chose nope
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i wonder what Trucy would do if Zak waltzed in and immediately asked her for a favour. tbf phoenix would probably launch him into the sun before he could set foot into the office but...
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Ok... So Dhurke doesn’t actually want to fix the legal system; he just said that he wants to gain immense spiritual power which will somehow give him the legal authority to RULE Kooraheen.
how does spiritual power have any effect on land deeds anyway?
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“Only the rulers of Kooraheen have ever laid eyes on the orb, Apollo”
and Ahlbi’s seen the box.
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“I figured you were poor as fuck so I brought you a plate of sushi!”
ok either A) He thought so little of Apollo that he assumed he’d just be starving on the street
or B) He’s been keeping tabs on Apollo and knows that the WAA doesn’t make a lot of cash, yet he hasn’t made any attempt to contact Apollo himself. Until he needs a favour.
what a.... great guy.
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what the FUCK
“here, as my second present... a PICTURE OF YOUR REAL DAD, THE ONE WHO CARED ABOUT YOU AND IS DEAD. HOORAY!”
i can tell theyre trying to do the ‘Hagrid gives Harry a photo album of his family for comfort” but its REALLY NOT THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES.
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His name was... JJ.
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~as you know~
also why would a musician perform with magicians?
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y’know, ive seen pictures of Jove Justice so far. and A) he looks like a tool, and B) the designers were lazy as fuck and just slapped Apollo’s hair onto Phoenix’s face. I had a pretty negative opinion of him initially. I was thinking I wouldn’t like any of Apollo’s new dads.
But you know what? If they go deeper into Jove’s backstory and prove that he was a caring father, I’m ready to completely drop any criticisms of him and carry this guy on my shoulders
cause compared to Dhurke ill bet he's a freakin angel
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...welp... back to Kurain village. At least it’ll remind me of bygone days...
...heh, aw. it’s cute. i like the sparrows on the roof.
ooh! an updated theme, too! not quite as nice as the original but it is nice.
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he was full of piss and vinegar
jesus
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yeah, kids run around naked. its not super surprising.
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“man, I miss that hut...”
apollo youre gonna make me cry;;
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Ema: :) i’ll show you the way to Dr. Buff. SURPRISE, HES DEAD! AHAHAHAHHAHA
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NOOO
MY SYSTEM FUCKED UP AND STARTED ME OVER FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE CHAPTER AAARGRRJHRFJ
id gone on a short break and i come back to this (weep)
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...
does Dhurke have boobs..?
...or just extremely prominent pecs...
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phew ok back on track.
wait hold on. if Dr. Buff is in Kurain village, where is he staying exactly? All the houses in Kurain village are old-style Japanese; this appears to be a modern day number.
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“please tell me youre joking”
“as if i’d come out here for a few laughs, Apollo”
yeah but youre not above leading him to the dr’s study and THEN telling him he’s dead WTF
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ahah. further proof that stepladders are superior.
i mean i know he didnt actually fall off that ladder by accident or whatever but still
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“you could say he died an honourable death...”
...crushed under his nerd books like a fuckin cartoon :T
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YEAH
POPS
POHLFUCKYA
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“I’m so sorry... It seems you’ve had quite a life.”
Why else would she say that except that some poor dialogue translator is secretly begging the series to stop fucking up his backstory
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“I mean, middle-aged man with long hair and an eye-patch? You don’t see that everyday.”
just give Valant an eyepatch
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hang on. why does an archeologist in America have Kooraheen’s founding orb anyway? I thought it burnt peoples’ faces off. And was super precious. Queen Garananana doesn't seem like someone who’d just hand out a precious ball like that.
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oh huh they found an ugly dalek. thats two dalek references in this game now...
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did i just... have a ladder conversation about a relic that looks like an airplane.
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why does everyone keep making blithe jokes about the doctors horrible death..? does that usually happen or am i misremembering
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WHAT THE STATUE OF AMI AND THE URN AND THE GRAVY SCROLL ARE THERE NOOOOOO YOU GET YOUR SLIMY HANDS OFF THEM SOJ, PUT THEM BACK IN T&T WHERE THEY BELONG
god there’s even a coffee shelf. i guess this side of the room is the “Relics of a better game” section.
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polly the clean freak. what a sweetheart :)
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aw yeah baby
its printing time
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oh yeah i forgot this version of printing SUCKS
but i do like the little pap sound it makes when you put down powder
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...they have Datz and Dhurkes prints on file.
You guys sure rock at being undercover.
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ill give them credit for having the Dance of Devotion not rhyme in English.
seeing lyrics again just gives me flashbacks to Serenade tho
Guitar, Guitar... Up together to the sky...
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MAY-OR DE-WEY
MAY-OR DE-We
wait that has the same number of syllables if you just say the pun
PAUL-A TI-SHON
PAUL-A TI-SHON
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...why the fuck is he in a palanquin
anybody in a palanquin is bad news ALSO WHY DOES IT SAY RECLAIM THE GLORY OF KURAIN
KURAIN DOES NOT HAVE POLTIICIANS. ESPECIALLY NOT MALE ONES.
SOJ. SOJ WHAT IS THIS FUCKERY.
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oh yeah he’s a bad guy
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...king of this fine nation. First of all... America doesn’t have kings. Second of all, Kurain isn’t a country, it’s a small village. Either he’s a moron or SOJ is fucking up at unprecedented speeds
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...did his theme song just ‘wheeee’
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“Jerk Q. Public”
pffft
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i wish you were golden boy. then you'd be morally questionable but entertaining.
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I'm very uncomfortable
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k so we’re back in Kurain and so far we’ve seen Zero women in total apart from Ema.
even the unnamed heckler was an old man.
is this the same Kurain Village I know?
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wh- talk??
what do you mean talk???
i dont wanna talk to this guy he's a dickcheese!!!
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Trucy’s 17 and she hasn’t studied politics at least a little yet? ...weird
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“Its real name is the Crystal of Ami Fey”
wait what
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“It’s been passed down for generations in the Atishon family”
WAIT WHAT
is he dicking around or is he distantly related to maya
or is he just totally dicking around
if so how dare he use Ami’s name in vain.
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where is Datz from anyway
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paul i dont mean to dash your hopes but becoming grand high emperor of kurain village will in fact not make you king of the world
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datz sure is a good rebel... getting caught... and put in jail...........
damnit, Vore Machine, what am i gonna do with you?
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well Apollo, from demon to deer. thats not bad.
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dog-faced cop..??
if youre very sneakily referencing our old pal Gumshoe youve got another thing coming, Vore Machine. In the form of my fist.
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“A shut-in? Sounds like it will be a challenge just to get a conversation going.”
yeah.... not like youve.... ever dealt with someone like that....... before....... hehe.... heh..............
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how long has Datz been in jail if he already knows the cafeteria itinerary
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um guys; maybe you should be a tiny bit more concerned about Athena??
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i just realized the Shichishito is gold. It’s green, you idiots. Or is that one too bent and bloody for display??
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thats it folks thats spirit of justice
apollo has become a living title drop
hes fuckin dead
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what kind of bullets were those
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yeah apollo, a fledgeling is equivalent to a private.
...also youre not a fledgeling youre near full experience capacity. this is your third... (and last...) year.
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so Dhurke is in full stealth mode until it comes to a remotely operated drone that could have literally anybody on the other side? brilliant, pal.
this is why your revolution’s taken like 23 years to get off the ground, jsyk.
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...k komandir?
i thought you were supposed to be a parody of The Soldier. what are you doing calling people by Russian military names? did the red scare not happen in this reality?
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pfft
it’s so cute.
im struggling between finding it adorable and being uncomfortable
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“in other words, something caused him to withdraw from the world...”
maybe his mom’s death??? maybe?????
does anyone in this game understand how a bad thing make a peoples’ brain go???
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pretty impressive that a woman’s body could provide sufficient cushioning to soften such a drop.
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lol. death attributed to random maniac. thanks soj.
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“Private Justice! You’ve suffered a loss just like mine!”
“I have... and thats how I know how you feel.”
yes, i can remember exactly happened when i was a one-year old in diapers. exactly the same kind of pain and trauma.
look i know theyre trying to have a moment but there’s a huge difference between growing up orphaned and being recently bereaved. Sure, Apollo’s seen his fair share of hardship and his experiences aren’t to be devalued, but it’s not the same kind of pain as having your parents die later in your life, especially with the mom’s horrific demise.
Honestly, it’d make more sense if he brought up Clay, since Clay was with him since he was very small and his death was sudden and deeply unfair.
BUT CLAY’S IN THE PAST, CLAY DOESN’T EXIST, WHO’S CLAY?? I DONT KNOW BACK TO SPIRIT OF JUSTICE
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YEAH
POHLFUCKYA DURKE
dhurke the burk amiright attorneys
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“the opaque crystal orb is the key”
>needless adjective
>will come into play later in court
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um so nobody’s gonna mention the blonde lady on his desktop background or........
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i like sarge. i hope they dont turn sour when theyre revealed.
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nice boot
ooh phosphorescence! neato!
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pearl: hello I'm here to do something ive never done before to provide clues for this case. i hope i’ve been useful! thank you, and goodnight.
...as contrived as this is, i am glad to see someone who actually comes from kurain village.
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wow, the gangs all here huh
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so they renamed Eagle Mountain “”””mt. mitama”””” eh
nice...............
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“you are at that age, after all...”
says apollo who's like 24
also why is she talking about all the women leaving the village? i thought it was the men. is this why i haven't seen any ladies? they all just shipped off downtown?? and of course there’s no mention of the creepy oppressive atmosphere and strictness of the village...
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nice alliteration apollo
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rain spirit at a bus stop and you hacks didnt make a Totoro joke?? lame
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“Dj’you bring a light?”
“Ņ̮͔̜̬͖̝ͫͦ̄̒̀̾̆̓̀ͤͨ͋̓̈̑̂͗́ͤo̸̵͈͎̤͇̤̙̯͔̙͖̞̳̙̠̹̞̲̭ͣ́ͫ͌ͦ̒́͞ͅ?ͯͩͨ̾̅̈ͮ̉̀̌͛̆͑̚҉̧͓̠͎̠͎̀̀”
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how can you not recognize a foreign voice you idiot
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“He tried to fucking kill us but he also gave us this flashlight. To um... see our slow death by starvation better I guess?”
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“We couldn’t get back to where we started if we wanted to”
if you wanted to??? thats exactly what you want!!!
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Klavier: Hello! This is flashback Klavier here to say: Don’t you miss me? Haha. I miss existing too. Oh well! See you next time~ ...i if there is one.
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DEAD
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aw, lucky you! you lucked into falling to your death directly to where you wanted to go!
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“Yes! Time to find that orb! When we have it, we can....rot here for eternity.”
...ok i know the doc found a way out but still
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wHAT THE FUCK
THAT HOLE IS LIKE 40 FEET UP
...oh well, if phoenix can survive it, so can they..?
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i love that there are various sea-related items scattered around that give an obvious way out but only yield “durr??? a sea thing??? how this get here??????????” when inspected
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whats with dhurkes’ magic eyes
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mmmmmmmm a slide puzzle great
“maybe the ppictures correspond to the song”
NO
REALLY??
what is with this game and not outright stating the obvious? its not like it spoils the player or anything; it just makes the WAA look like idiots
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fuck this I'm gonna finish this stupid puzzle without this game’s help or die trying
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...ah. my personal need for pattern and order blinded me to the truth
oh well; it’s open now. i’m gonna smash Eshiro’s stupid smirking face with it.
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“opening that box means you're the best lawyer ever! enjoy leaving the series forever!!!”
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“A royal stole that orb”
stole it... as opposed to just taking it and doing whatever they want with it because it’s theirs and there’s absolutely no reason to have to “steal” it.
unless they wanted to frame the rebels i guess but like. theyre rebels. theyre already pretty hated
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“it would be seen as utter sacrilege to let a foreign man study this artifact”
oh also it would debunk that whole “explodes your face if you look at it” thing
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...here we go...
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“he used to be a nice kid, but now...”
he’s an enourmous shitstain?
“he tried to convict trucy for a crime she didnt even commit...”
ok, apollo. there are a zillion valid reasons to hate sadmad, and yes, his reasoning in that trial was shit. but just being a prosecutor and doing what a prosecutor is meant to do doesn’t make him evil. he isn’t about to just roll over because the defendant’s your sis–– er, best friend.
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he... could be playing the long game, and interfering could fuck up his plan, Dhurke. Also how was he a rebel and then somehow managed to get into good graces with the royals? It’s already been proven that Dhurke’s Dummy Dragon Gang suck at being stealthy or having any sense of self-preservation. I doubt they just wouldn’t recognize Sadmad
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“it’s not conviction that fills his heart; it’s resignation and despair”
are you telling me Sadmad is the equivalent of a guy in a dead end office job taking it out on his coworkers
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“The only thing I know for sure is... Nahyuta is suffering, and he is suffering in silence”
edgeworth: been there, done that!
blackquill: BEEN THERE, DONE THAT
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ya sure put a lot of stock in Sadmad, Dhurke. i mean i guess he’s your son but seriously; if you're a proper rebel you’d cut your losses and get on with shit already with or without him
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...y’know, this speech about lawyers being like dragons kind of doesn’t have the same emotion impact and gravitas that the non-dragon one in T&T did.
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oh how... charming...
*America’s* badge is shaped like a sunflower... and Kooraheen’s is shaped like a buggy eye.
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YARGH
dont DO that
your voice is BAD
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“he’s my son! therefor he has to believe in the same thing as me! nothing, not even torture could have changed him!”
cue Gredgeworth’s awkward cough from the afterlife.
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“You know, I remember when Nahyuta and I were kids, he used to say with great pride ‘I have the blood of a dragon in me!’”
cue tiny apollo feeling left out and alone because he doesn’t know what kind of blood is in him
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>reform court system
>rescue son
well... i guess there could be worse reasons to start a revolution.
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“I mean, what are fathers for?!”
( ‘I... I wouldn’t know...’)
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT, GAME
ARE YOU TRYING TO BREAK MY HEART
YOU CAN’T GIVE APOLLO ALL THESE EMOTIONS WHEN YOU’RE ALSO SHAFTING HIS ASS AT THE SAME TIME
SHAME ON YOU
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HE HAS A BROKEN ARM
HOWS HE GONNA SWIM
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oh its high tide yay
oh it’s... really high tide
wow.
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well this is fun. i daresay id really like this sequence... if it wasn’t in this game.
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“oh no... the water might carry me up to the way out of here... how awful.”
lol can you imagine if this was timed tho
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oh hey it’s the DD panic panic song. i liked that one. it deserves its spot in the suspense music roster.
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y’know at this point i kinda hope he really just dies
wouldn’t that be a kicker
not that i hate apollo or anything but I'm just............... so tired
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apollo’s pretty calm for a drowning person
i’ve nearly suffocated before and the only thing going through my head was AIR AIR AIR GET AIR GET AIR GET AIR AIR AIR
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baby apollo: waahhhh!!! we’re both perfectly dry!!! the artist didn’t bother to make us look wet in the flashback!
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A) Little Apollo doesn’t even call Dhurke “Daddy” or “Papa” despite being raised by him since infant hood, possibly meaning Dhurke gave him the ‘You’re adopted” speech pretty early. Or else kids that “aren’t really my son” have to go by name basis. See? Nahyuta calls him father.
B) Haha! Boys don’t cry, not-son! Suck those sissy tears back up into your skull, or you’ll look gay! It doesn’t matter that you’re like five and you almost drowned to death! Don’t embarrass me!
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“Don’t ever hesitate to call when you need me”
oh but apollo your ass gets shipped back to america tomorrow ok
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no seriously. on one hand; why did apollo get sent away? why couldn’t he be a rebel alongside nahyuta and fight for his family? on the other hand, why didn’t dhurke send nahyuta with him? if apollo’s going away because it’s dangerous, why is nahyuta staying with dhurke in the path of danger?
to be honest I'm ashamed that I'm crying, but it’s less about this scene being sad as fuck and more about the fact that I know that none of this is ever really resolved. Dhurke is still a piece of shit who made no attempt to contact apollo for years until he needed a favour out of him. and Apollo has to live with this stupid backstory because ESHIRO thought it would be dramatic and cool. Apollo’s going to “go home”, leave the series... He doesn’t even know he’s leaving his last scrap of real family who gives a shit about him behind in America.
Apollo doesn’t deserve this.
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Dhurke, with superman theme playing in the background: Redeeming my character! By saving your life! Redeeming my character! By saving your life! Though only a heartless, shithead person, would leave you behind to die! So this isn’t great.
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...is he holding him in his broken arm
wait is that arm even broken
has he just been holding it like it’s in a sling for no reason this whole time
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“Still can’t swim, eh?”
oh fuck off
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“Good thing your name’s not Neptune, hahahaha!”
A) OH FUCK OFF
B) NEPTUNE IS A SEA GOD, HE’D ACTUALLY BE RESISTANT TO WATER
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WHOA FUCK HOLY SHIT
vore machine came out of nowhere and oh
also he is also laughing at a guy who almost drowned
well aren’t these two just the greatest men on earth huh
Trucy: :) lets make this drowning thing seem like no big deal by playing it off and not even asking if you're okay at all :))))
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great... now he owes his life to him.... that completely cancels out every other piece of baggage.....
remember........ when edgeworth owed his life to phoenix......... remember how he was 100% okay after that and not fucked up at all................ remember how he just popped back into the series without any changes whatsoever apart from being phoenix’s friend again........................................
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“GLAD TO SEE YOURE NOT CRYING SON; IM GLAD YOU GREW UP INTO THE EMOTIONALLY STUNTED MAN I ALWAYS WANTED, EVEN WITHOUT MY STELLAR PARENTAL GUIDANCE! THAT LONELY ORPHANAGE MUST HAVE TOUGHENED YOU UP GOOD! HAH-HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!”
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y’know in the interim i was thinking
Rebel Apollo would be great. he’d probably be an enormous goofus but at least he’d be happy and maybe Dhurke’s shitty plan would get off the ground because an actual smart person would be part of the team.
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listen to that fuckin “we solved the case” music.
(sigh)
at least apollo is eating.
Turnabout Revolution... End
heh i wish
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“Sure wish Nahyuta was here”
I don’t.
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you fucking morons. you colossal fucking asshats. i knew this was coming
Dhurke: DURR LETS TALK ABOUT THIS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ITEM IN A PLACE WHERE WE KNOW THE GUY WHO WANTS THIS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ITEM IS! WHATS A STEALTH????
This is why the revolution has taken 20 FCKIN YEARS to take off. Because Dhurke and his band of nincompoops are all incompetent fuckwits.
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huh i can see where Nahyuta gets his magic clap from.
also say it you loser say bitch
say bitch
say bitch
say bitch
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A) If the “crystal” is a fake thing, his police report probably wouldn’t check out cause I'm P sure that people can’t just file police reports for anything without proof of previously owning it.
B) Dhurke. You’re a rebel. Shoot someone. Throw a smoke bomb. Gently jog away? Idk if that works in America but it sure as hell works in Kooraheen.
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no. don’t do it. don’t you fucking do––
oh, i just saw a ghost.
The ghost of the potential any sequels past AJ had. It blinked at me sorrowfully before CAPCOM busted it and crammed it into the Containment Unit.
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(sigh) Ok (most likely) fake shit aside, that would make Atishon related to Maya, and the “heirloom” would more probably be Maya’s. Why is this excuse present at all anyway it’s stupid.
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Apollo it shouldn’t fuckin matter; it’s a court case. Just prove the orb isn’t the Crystal of Ami Fey and you win the case. You know that Phoenix doesn’t cheat and you’re pretty certain that the crystal really is the Founder’s Orb, so you shouldn’t be upset about anything. This isn’t a murder trial, it’s a dispute over ownership of an item. You know you’re in the right, so you ought to be able to win the trial. There’s literally no stakes apart from the fact that you’re facing your boss... but so what? That can happen... I assume, I’m not versed in that sort of thing. But either way, lawyers sometimes have to face off against each other... it happens. You had to face Nahyuta. Now you face Phoenix. Unless you think Phoenix will cheat, or that you don’t have sufficient info on the orb, then there’s legitimately no fucking problem. I mean yeah, sucks to go to court, but who gives a fuck? Win the trial and skip back to Kooraheen to overthrow the oppressive regime.
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I don’t
what is the fucking problem
one of you gets payed, you both work at the same place
it doesn’t matter
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APOLLO. You KNOW his methods. You know that he wins because his clients are innocent, and would graciously hand over victory if it was clear you were in the right; YOU HAVE TO KNOW THIS. YOU’RE HIS BIGGEST FAN, REMEMBER??
Unless you think he’d fucking cheat for a skeezy politician for money in which case, nice. Gotta love that trust and belief that DD was building up there.
“Can I do it? Can I fight him?”
YES ITS NOT EVEN A MURDER TRIAL
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“May the best attorney win”
well so much for finding the truth or whatever. Also Phoenix should be proud that Apollo is willing to go up against him; it shows he’s coming into his own. There’s literally no reason for them to be on shit terms right now.
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“A fine mess I’ve gotten you into, son.”
Hey shithead that wasn’t an apology. Also yeah, go on and on about how good a lawyer Phoenix is just to scare Apollo. Brilliant.
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“The first step of your revolution, huh?”
The first step. 20 years and he’s only just taking the first step. Not the first step to the end of the revolution; the first step to the revolution itself.
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Welp, we’re off to fight over the possession of an oversized marble in court. Seeya next time i guess...
#ooc#sulking over SOJ#soj spoilers#soj spoilers obvs]#things we've learned today: Dhurke Sadmahdi is a lazy insensitive incompetent pieceof shit
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