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beautifulpersonpeach · 1 year

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We couldn't just be happy that Haegeum, after all the struggles, debuted at 58 on hot 100. Can we?

Yoongi biased Ot7s tweeting "did that without collabs, remixes, multiple versions….." "Agustd paves the way"…

Who are they shading? Jimin for releasing multiple versions? JK for collabing with western artists?

This whole ot7 is a myth.

How are you shading multiple versions/remixes when the most successful Bts song, Dynamite, that charted for 32 weeks inside hot100 had 11 versions/remixes. One A side and one B side mvs. Had vinyl, cassettes and Cds.

And western collabs are a drag? We have Boy with Luv and MU right there being successful.

My Astronaut didn't have remixes or multiple versions either and it debuted at 51. So Yoongi biased armys, humble down already.

And the person they are shading the most, Jm. SMF p2 with no CDs, remixes and multiple versions debuted at 30 on bb100. If SMF P2 had CDs like Haeguem and The Astronaut, it would have debuted inside top10 for sure. People need to stop being bitter about Like Crazy.

This is what leads to more division in the fandom.

Yoongi is not my bias, I am not into his music. But I bought and streamed for him. We wanted that hot100 debut so bad for him. These kind of talks are so disappointing.

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You probably typed this out thinking it's a very normal and sensible thing to say lmao, but all it shows is that you're getting sucked in.

Listen, I understand you feel very passionately about the member you love, and I understand in fandom spaces this can be hard to put into practice, but, just... try to be normal. The fandom isn't filled with people who hate Jimin, he would not have gotten any of his chart accomplishments if that were true, defaulting to thinking a common mindless comment made for many achievements is targeted shade at Jimin is more a reflection of how you think OT7 Yoongi-biased ARMYs view Jimin, it's more a reflection of the siloed environment you're in where you see JM constantly targeted, than based on anything that's actually happening in the wider fandom.

One thing that amuses me about all this, is that people who act like this don't seem to realize they're creating a self-fulfilling prophesy. That they're directly creating the environment they claim they're fighting against. It's the same mentality with shooters, solo stans, and mantis. This isn't to say there couldn't be Yoongi-biased people saying that to shade Jimin, I'm certain his solo stans and the akgaes of other members could say that to target Jimin, but by defaulting to thinking it is targeted shade at Jimin by OT7 ARMYs (when it of course could apply to other groups/people besides Jimin), you're heightening suspicion on regular ARMYs, who to counter that will become ultra defensive and level that suspicion back on Jimin-biased ARMYs, and you're doing all that while needlessly victimizing your bias. You've apparently identified "what leads to more division in the fandom", without realizing that you're inadvertently contributing to that division with all the above.

Lol.

This is how y'all create the circus that is fandom.

One more thing.

You know, when I say I don't particularly care about charts, I actually mean it. Like, I understand how the charts work, I know what they imply for BTS and I stream, donate, buy so other fans can access their music and to better support fandom efforts, but arguments over chart placements between the members, and how xyz did this at abc, etc, whatever all of that is, I genuinely do not give a fuck.

I couldn't tell you where Joon, Hobi, etc debuted on the charts unless I go back to check it, and in about a month I'd probably have forgotten where Yoongi charted. Jimin's #1 will remain top of mind simply because of how rare and monumental it is, but I've forgotten everything else. I read all of what you wrote Anon, and it amuses me that I'm reading this in the same fandom space that until June 2022, prided itself on not caring about charts like those 'crazy chart-obsessed Twitter ARMYs'. Lol. BTS solo era started and suddenly the shippers, who often operate more like solo stans of the people they ship, suddenly care about donating, streaming, buying, chart accomplishments, etc, than they did a mere 6 months ago.

Lol.

Anon, I've got a few more asks like yours in my inbox (I posted yours because you seem actually coherent). All the asks are people getting up in arms about this or that person saying this/that about Yoonmin's solo debut, promotions, chart placements etc. You and the rest who are talking like this might not realize it now, but you're getting sucked in. There's only one thing you sound like, and only one place you're going to end up with that line of thinking. It's easily one of the most predictable pipelines in fandom. You can call yourself whatever you like, but take it from someone who has been here long enough, keep going on like that and you're only going to end up in one place.

And like I've said before, I have no qualms letting dead weight fall off.

Goodluck to you.

#That fandom implosion is guaranteed to happen at this point lmaooo #we've got too many volatile and easily manipulated reagents in this chemical solution #yoonmin #jimin #park jimin #yoongi #min yoongi #bts #bts army #fandom behaviour #bts fandom

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for-yoongi0309 · 1 year

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SUGA/AGUST TOUR + DDAY album

Insta posts - touring updates

Insta posts - DDay promos

Bangtan Episode: Tour in USA behind scenes

Bangtan Episode: Tour in ASIA behind scenes

Bangtan Episode: Tour in SEOUL behind scenes

Photo sketch suga|agustd stages

Special kisses on tour

DDay in Seoul stream

DDay movie merch

TOUR DATES

Tour merch

Tour merch scans

DDay in Japan DVD+Blu-ray scans

Today's Bangtan - speci tag for tour

ROAD TO DDAY DOCU

Road To DDay docu behind photos

Tour fancams

Tour selfie/clips taken from fans phone

DDay AgustD era behind photos

Amygdala/Haegeum/People pt2 behind - SUGA selfies

Amygdala/Haegeum/People pt2 behind - SUGA's POV

Spotify behind photos

TikTok vids

Concept photos : being

Concept photos : Exister

ALBUM INFO

ALBUM ORDER LINKS

D-2/AGUSTD rerelease

AMYGDALA MV+Jacket Shooting behind pho sketch

Haegeum MV+Jacket Shooting behind pho sketch

People pt2 (ft. IU) MV behind pho sketch

Album scans

DDAY merch

Movie date night with SUGA|AgustD

DJ SYUB HONEY RETURNS

Radio DJ AgustD on apple music

SUGA on UI's palette

Fan call event/raffle

bangtan episodes/bbombs (for DDAY)

Billboard interview

Nme interview

+ MORE TO COME SOON ..

[ PLAYLIST + MORE TAGS ]

#ab.dday trilogy #doc.disney+roadtodday #tour:suga/agustd #for-yoongi0309's masterlist #tour+dday.list

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struggle-but-its-all-ocean-floor · 6 months

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THANK YOU!! I've literally grown so annoyed with pjms lately because all they do is whine and whine and whine. LC is a good song, but the truth is that it never left the kpop bubble. The GP doesn't know that song and frankly, im shocked that people are expecting LC to get a grammy nom over Seven. This isnt me being biased either because i would say the same about 3D if it was jungkooks debut song, because 3D never made it out the kpop bubble either.

Do you feel like the Fandom has started to resent Jungkook? I've seen the same pattern lately. Someone praises Seven, and someone mentions another person's release. For example, people were talking about how seven deserves to win best music video and someone comments "what about Haegeum?" Or "haegeum deserved it." It just feels like they want any other member to win other than JK. I already Nov 10th is going to be filled with so much drama

I disagree that 3D never made it out of the kpop bubble. Jungkook's very much out of the kpop bubble as a soloist, and Jack Harlow was never in the bubble. 3D's doing well on Spotify too, given the fierce competition and the fact that it's obviously not as good or as well promoted as Seven (the alternate version is almost on the same level as Seven to me, but Harlow is unbearable and 3D's not as replayable).

Anyway, 3D will never get a Grammy nom, but Seven should. The Grammys are all about popularity. Igaf about "quality", at the end of the day, of all the artists voters know, they choose the songs they like best (or get paid to like). It's simple: if you're not popular/influential, at least in those circles, no one will hear your song. Seven deserves at least the pop group/duo nom since it's going to become the fastest song to hit 1B streams on Spotify, was loved by the GP, had impact, and because it's a good song. Imo it's actually better than Dynamite and on the same level as Butter. I don't like Latto much but her part is admittedly fun and catchy once I stopped being annoyed at her feature (Seven would be miles better without it though). The clean lyrics are good enough for me too, and Seven also has longevity. I've heard it a million times already but it doesn't really become annoying - the opposite, actually. Now I can understand why people liked it.

Anyway, I'm not sure if the "fandom" resents Jungkook. I mean, what is the fandom? There are millions of us. Solo stans for sure resent Jungkook because, obviously, neither Jimin nor V can compete with Jungkook's power and global popularity right now, Jimin stans are mad at Hybe for sabotaging LC in the radio, and Hyung line stans are often mad at the maknae line for being more popular. When it comes to the Grammys and other award shows, it's like all of a sudden fans don't know how the game works... Seven not getting a best MV nod when (although I didn't like it) it was high budget, cinematographic, well shot, had a story, had impact, served visuals, etc. would be at least a bit unfair unless all other nominees have better MVs. But why would Haegeum be nominated? Just because it's good? Again, it's not about quality. It's about being known (or buying your way in). Not many Grammy voters know Agust D or watched Haegeum. It's not like YTC, when the Grammys clearly just wanted to nominate BTS so fans wouldn't accuse them of racism again and maybe tune in to the show. Agust D is not BTS. People don't know him as much. They know BTS, but not Suga individually for the most part. But a lot of people know Jungkook individually now, and he's the member people are most likely to know. They could nominate him just to throw kpop some crumbs. That's what all these award shows do anyway.

There's a lot of discourse about Jungkook now. Jimin and the rap line wrote their songs and produced their albums, so they're better than Jungkook. V sang in Korean and paired up with a pedophile artistic genius, so he's better than Jungkook. Blah blah. The audience doesn't care. There's popularity/sales/streams/engagement and then there's artistry/quality/whatever. Those two dimensions intersect but that's it. Fans know this... That's why Dynamite is BTS's best performing song...

Anyway, don't even know what I'm saying, but, yeah, thanks for the ask!

#ask #bts #jungkook #text #thanks for the ask!

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blackswanyuzu · 1 year

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the beautiful mv for agust d’s new single ‘amygdala’ is out now! 🫧

tw for self-harm, pills, car accidents and implied attempted suicide(?) - please heed these warnings and stream at your own pace - remember you can always stream the song and other d-day songs including the other singles on other major streaming platforms if you still want to stream but the contents of this mv are too much - you can also still contribute to youtube streams by continuing to stream the mvs for ‘haegeum’ and ‘people pt.2’ ft iu.

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