I’m wondering if you’ve ever been made fun of for your writing? I know you’re very popular now especially after “Get on your knees and pray to me” but did you ever deal with that?
I ask because I am a writer too and while my stories seem to have a good audience I’m often being told I am “too old” to be writing them and getting bullied for it, I highly respect you as a writer and hope that people will love my work as much as yours someday.
I appreciate any insight you may have and I hope you’re well
Hi hun! First of all, I am so sorry that people are bullying you. It is absolutely ridiculous that authors have to deal with that, especially after putting so much time and energy into writing for free. Keep your head up, and I hope those nasties go away soon. There's no such thing as "too old" to write. Write how you want, when you want, where you want. Writing is your craft, don't let them beat you down.
Unfortunately, I've been dealing with bullying since I began writing about 4 years ago, and it's gotten worse after I gained a larger following :( I too was bullied for my age, but people called me too young to be writing what I wrote. I'm only 23 at the moment, and some people were telling me I was too young, immature, and inexperienced to be writing, especially the level of smut I was writing. That was a real bummer to hear, but luckily, I don't seem to get that one in my inbox anymore.
What I do deal with more, though, is people bullying me for not writing what they want to see. The people who bullied me want to see Loki and Tom Hiddleston fics, and that's it. Anyone else I write about, they feel bullying me will stop me from writing about other characters and "turn me back" to writing about Loki. This happened so badly that I had to take a long break from writing after I wrote a Loki x Eros x Reader fic. I was super excited to write it and try new avenues, but there were a lot of people that were mad that I wrote about Eros, said I was betraying Loki, I was fake, a liar, a horrible person, that I deserved to be kicked out of the Loki community...all for writing a fic about 3 adults consenting to a threesome. It was brutal, and whenever I mention another character, reblog another character, or write about another character, hate and bullying overflows my inbox. I've learned to just ignore it and delete it and do what makes me happy, but it still gets under my skin. It's really hard not to let it hurt you, I know.
Hate and bullying are something that happen far too often, especially when people can hide behind anons and a screen. There's no consequence to their actions so they'll say whatever they want. Luckily, there are so many more amazing people and loving people out there than there are bullies. It's those amazing readers and kind hearts that make it a little easier to get through the bullying. I hope that you're able to stay strong throughout this and remember, you've got me in your corner! I'll fight on your side, hun :)
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The hero coughs into the dust saturating the air. This is wrong.
The old warehouse, it’s– it’s gone. Crumpled in on itself like a can that’s been stamped on one too many times. It’s all wrong. It’s all too familiar.
A warehouse went down last month in the fallout of a fight. Someone had been inside. No matter how much he hated the villain, she didn’t deserve to die like that. The hero still has nightmares about it; it haunts him.
But this. It’s like he’s standing outside that warehouse again, watching the aftermath of one wrong hit—watching the one person who gave him purpose disappear into debris.
This was recent. The dust is scratching at the hero’s throat. He coughs again, the air visibly wavering in front of his face.
“It brings back fond memories, doesn’t it?”
The hero flinches, not convinced he heard who he thinks he did. The villain’s voice has been in his head since then anyway. Telling him of everything he did wrong. This is just one of those horrible moments of weakness.
“I must say, you made a valiant attempt to erase me from the face of this earth.” There’s an echoing click of heels against concrete. The hero’s heart stops. “Doesn’t this remind you of that moment when you failed?”
“I’m– I’m so sorry—” He chokes on the words desperately. An apathetic hum rings in his ears.
“Ah, you’re sorry!” the villain coos softly. “Sorry for what? For trying, or for failing?”
There’s a shadow sauntering through the dust towards him like a ghost, the hero’s face paling as she steps through the fog. The villain throws him a cat-like grin that turns his insides cold.
“Oh, you poor darling,” she says with false softness. “It’ll take a little more than that to stop me.”
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This may sound pretty out of the blue but it's a huge red flag to me when someone is being an asshole to their siblings (or anyone but i'm gonna be specific for this one) for no good reason. I mean I understand that not everyone has a good relationship with their siblings, after all you don't get to choose them, and in this sense I'm lucky to be on good terms with my big brother but still, beefing with someone for a reason and just fucking around with them for fun is very different.
I'm talking about types of bullying for example, like stealing their personal belongings and then saying shit like "I'll give it back if they ask for it." Like what the fuck. You already knew it's theirs and you still decided to be an asshole. Or stuff like "But my [other family member] did that to me too when I was young!" And? How did that make you feel? Why do you feel a need to do the same to your own younger sibling? It makes no sense. And then those who keep defending themselves with "Oh but it's just a joke, can't you take a joke?" No. It's not a joke and it's definitely not funny. You're just being an asshole and it disgusts me.
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I genuinely can never thank you enough for the past year. I can't express how much it's meant to me to be understood and have my energy reciprocated with someone on the same wavelength. Although I've been in the fandom for quite a bit longer than most people writing in, and longer than you, even, I can't remember the last time I felt this welcome and motivated. A TRULY embarrassing amount of my work's just been fueled by "oh Snap's gonna wanna see that," and of course that circle's expanded since then, but it probably wouldn't have had I not met stream chat through you, aaaaaand if I'm honest you're still up there... lol...
It's always, always a highlight of my day to see your your work, your posts, and your responses, whether they're to me or to others, and it's always a highlight of my week to be able to make it to streams! You're a huge inspiration for me, particularly in terms of your work ethic across the board. I always come out of streams energized and feeling like I can actually finish things, and usually this is hubris, but it's gotta count for something.
Not to be dramatic, but you kinda changed my life, no exaggeration. I still really can't see myself the way I was two or three years ago not just calling it quits after some of my Gaiden experiences... lol... but I'm still around, and like always, I wanna be able to write in and interact as much as I used to sometime soon. Thanks for everything! I hope RGGS continues to deliver so we can stay in touch :3
i cant thank YOOOOU enough for the past Xsome months or so. feelins ABSOLUTELY mutual in that i wasnt sure anyone else would really be into talkin bout rgg as you and i have (or would be willing to read my. miles-long scrolls of bullshit LMAO) so it's been real fun gettin to know you an everyone and chattin !!
most bafflin thin to ever to think i have good work ethic, i feel like ive been behind everyone for the past couple weeks and even with the things i do make it's really not up to snuff. it's always nice to hear that's not supposedly exactly the case :) I Suppose :^)
rgg community (like any community lbr) can be. An Experience, esp for someone with a position like yours. so im glad i can make it worth to hang around somewhat LOL
regardless, i always look forward to you next ask or the next time you leave tags on a post i make. if i ever bother making a post again ☠️☠️
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forgot i had the thought like if anyone's leaving b/c they're so totally to nice for this business why isn't it ben (ft. tuk as a duo) the person who's always been [hey this guy doesn't fit in here! he's too nice!!] thee most, as well as actually committed the whole time to Not bullying anyone around him
if ben & tuk had just left / stayed away then (a) maybe they were so loath to possibly have an episode without ben kim, speaking of the [s1 shit] priority put on the overall season. but it's a sacrifice that could be considered for the tradeoff of "why not give that [walking away b/c you just can't accept being So Mean]" which would of course also feel much more relevant for ben being told like "yeah you'd have to do what i did to step on tuk specifically, for example" versus rian who was just turning her own [is herself actually among the Constant Workplace Bullies] on tuk 4 min prior. and (b) then i guess we could have rian just standing there in the end too like oh right who are you again? and that also would've made it all the clearer like oops she's just become a generic employee who Could blend in with victor and dollar bill b/c she's just Another bully with Another slight variation in her style of being so, but that's a matter of like: yeah you made this bed now lie in it. she stopped having a chance to be a funny little guy of a tertiary rank & file character b/c she started to be an inconsistent plot device instead, & was never given the prominence to at least truly drive plots instead of staying that [plot device who just veers off in whatever direction another, truly prominent character's plot needs] like yeah you should've picked one for this character, or if not, had her leave at the end of s5. and if not, had her leave at the end of s6. and if not, well, here we are dealing with billions having to insist she's had an arc, as well as that she hasn't Already just been yet another employee with the bullying spirit completely suited to just stick around here forever
meanwhile billions seemed to focus not on "the thing about ben, & tuk, isn't that they don't fit in b/c way too much they're among the people who try not to be awful to everyone else whenever they feel like it" but instead focused on "the thing about ben & tuk is that [sound of luke bradford crashing their fake married bank heist moment] people think they're PUSSIES!!!!!!!!!!"
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Not siding with enstars-gatekeeper, but I do see the point they're trying to make tbh. Nobody likes ooc stuff in any fandom community really and it is sad that like enstars-gatekeeper said that writers will get spam hate on their work for being ooc (it's more ao3 they were referring to I think as haven't seen it much on tumblr) and that's why fanfic writing is scary for some ig?
Again, I'm not siding with enstars-gatekeeper ofc but I agree with what they said about other communities acting that way towards writers but I certainly don't want Enstars to go down that way (honestly I thought there'd be more like gatekeeper with the likes of ES! not having an official English translation and how most lore apparently is shown in those stories, wouldn't know though as I've never read any).
What I never get though is why readers like that exist? Like isn't fanfiction supposed to be self indulgent and about having fun, not trying to basically extend what there is of canon content? Is it even possible to be 100% true to canon when writing considering fic writers aren't the creators of the source material?
I've been wanting to write fics myself but all the fandoms I'm in are like that and hate ooc fics. My main fixation is Enstars anyway and even tho I've been playing a while now, because I haven't read ES! I'm scared that I don't fully understand the characters now cause with the way some people,like gatekeeper, go on about it I'm under the impression that anything in ES!! isn't as accurate or I mean maybe as informative as ES! stories are and that I'd get a while new character basically if I read ES! (Its probably not that drastic but everyone is acting like it is so yeah)
Sorry if I'm venting by the way, seeing people like gatekeeper just annoy me as I wish no community had those "fans" 😅
Annoyance with OOC is understandable, but. Well. Exit the fic if it annoys you, you know? Out of all the (actually!) gross things that happens with fancreators, sending someone anon hate for writing smth OOC or writing a serial killer AU is just lame imo
That person said they wish more writers got anon hate for writing OOC, which is horrible, btw. Idc, if you wanna send someone abuse because they just misunderstood a character, that's loser behaviour. It's pathetic and it makes you a bully.
But you're right, as a fanfic writer, nothing I write will come close to canon-compliant. I can imitate canon and guesstimate what could be canon, but purely on account of "I don't work at happyele", everything I write today that "makes sense" could be contradicted by a future event. Hell, when this shuffle event comes out, they could reveal smth ab Shu that I never thought ab and that would render all my fics about him "OOC", that's just how it works with writing for ongoing media. It's why I don't like writing for ongoing media, but, alas, enstars is probably gonna outlive me at this point.
And yeah, fanfic is supposed to just be self-indulgent fun. Of course I believe certain topics should not be written about in fanfiction, especially if they're written in a romanticised way or a way meant to make certain immoral behaviour acceptable (as an example: the difference between writing yandere as horror vs as something romantic), but. Writing a character as OOC is just such a mild "misdemeanor". I don't like it, giving new fans and new writers grief over it.
I hope you'll feel comfortable to write in the future, I love seeing new writers and creators in general, especially considering the enstars fandom is small on tumblr. It really is just gatekeeper who's throwing us off tbh. ! is only "better" bc it's larger, it ran, like, 5 years or so? And !! has been running for 2, so it has a lot more content, yes, but I don't think it's that bad. The characters changed and evolved (a joy of enstars), and writing a character based on their ! characterisation would still end up as OOC unless you're writing them in the ! setting. Writing a character in the !! as you know them in !! should be fine, I believe. Like, ! might be good info to have for the subtleties, but most of what I know from ! are things I never explicitly mention, just weave through their characterisation. Making a character like Mika avoid eye contact when nervous isn't a big deal at all - but it's my way of saying, "It's hard to get rid of old habits, especially of ones so ingrained in a person. Even if he's learning to love himself, he still kept the habit of hiding the eyes he grew up hating when he feels threatened".
At the end of the day, fandom drama is childish. Fandom drama that starts because someone hates "OOC fics" (of all the things) is even more childish. It's really not hard to exit a fic you don't like. It's more effort to type up hate for it.
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