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pretzlforpresident · 3 months
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Not while you’re still alive
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Bro, brooooo. what the hell……
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playertwotails · 1 year
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Okay so I just read the new Sonic IDW issue #56 and there's so much about this issue I love but there are some particular panels I wanna talk about.
Putting it under the cut for spoilers. Also cause it's a long post cause I have thoughts.
SO first off Sonic is just having a bad time this whole arc, dude cannot catch a break lately I swear.
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Like poor guy is having the worst week. Stating the obvious, but like he's in so much pain here and idk how many volts Surge just pumped into him but I'm gonna assume it was probably enough to kill anyone who's not Sonic. (Yay for plot armor lol). But seriously he should probably be dead but he's also got like basically over maxed stats in constitution so he can take hits that'd kill others but that doesn't mean it's not gonna hurt like hell.
Also look at Tails he's so worried and tries to dive after him but just wasn't quite fast enough. Plus look how Sonic landed...facing Tails when he first started falling he was face down. Meaning he had turned around mid fall and tried to reach out to grab hold of Tails' hand. The last thing he saw then before getting hit with fuck you levels of volts was Tails' terrified face just above him.
Which also means that Tails just saw all that up close. He was probably hovering just over Sonic based on the panel where he tried to catch him but couldn't do anything to help without also getting hit with Surges electricity too. So Tails more than likely just had to hover there and watch all that happen.
Side note: I also find it very interesting that it was a combination of his biggest fear and Tails' that resulted in this. Like yeah that was the whole point of Surge and Kit, they were made to prey on each of their biggest fears. But the fact that it was only Sonic that took the worst of the hits from the both I feel like says something. And the fact that Tails kept being able to talk down Kit (water) from attacking while Sonic couldn't do the same with Surge (lightning). Idk what but there's something there to look into and think about.
Moving back to the panels though:
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When Tails can finally reach Sonic after the bath from hell he is freaking out and concerned. He's scared for Sonic to the point he can't even form a complete sentence just pure panic mode is on. And Sonic, who's in all kinds of pain right now, sees Tails freaking out and being worried about him and immediately makes a joke to try and calm Tails down.
Sonic just ignores how awful he feels to try and reassure his little brother. Cause he knows what Tails just saw and wants/needs him to calm down and Sonic does that the only way he knows how, joking around with Tails.
Now these next panels make me go absolutely feral
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Sonic sees Tails get hit on the head from a huge rock and knocked out and his panic protective big brother mode instincts get kicked into overdrive. Sonic is clearly freaking out I mean he's even stuttering with the stress and panic of it all. Aka he is in 'no thoughts just panic and run' mode.
(I'm guessing too that the wisps are way too drained to do anything at all after all that, heck some of them aren't even floating)
Also he's repeating to himself over and over "I've got this". He's just trying so hard to get them all out of there and with Tails, seemingly down for the count, Sonic only has himself to save his little brother, the wisps, and himself. He has to "got this" or they're all done for. So he has to keep reassuring himself that he can save them cause there is no other option and no one else there to help.
To top it all off he's not at 100%, he just had a fight with Metal, then Surge, then some spicy bath water, then about to be Metal again and now he's fighting a collapsing building cause of Kit. He hasn't had a breather in like days now in this arc.
But then the next panels happen:
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Look at Sonic's grip in that first panel, he's only got two fingers still griping when he's first grabbed it, barely, with his whole hand. He's about to slip but he's trying to hard to hold on with just those two fingers he's shaking cause he refuses to let anything bad happen to Tails on his watch. (Plus you know also his own life and the wisps, but he would 100% sacrifice himself in a heartbeat if that would do anything to save the rest of them)
Which makes me love Tails' iron grip shooting up and grabbing hold right next to his shaking hand so much. Just like the symbolism of it all just to begin with, Sonic can do a lot of things but when he literally, and figuratively, is losing his grip of the situation Tails has got them. Tails just once again swooping in last second to save Sonic is such a little badass moment, these last few issues have just been feeding Tails fans with good content I swear. They really let Tails keep being the one to save Sonic and show off how much Sonic needs him just as much as Tails need Sonic.
Just that quote from Ian Flynn again "sonic needs tails and that’s a cosmic truth"
Tails reassuring Sonic that "we've got this" is such a sweet moment. After all that panic Sonic just went through trying to save them he gets the reassurance that Tails has his back just as much as he has Tails'.
Also look at Sonic's face when he's looking at Tails he loves his little brother so much.
That little "yeah" he says too really just feels like a loaded statement other than just agreeing with Tails. I think he has that split moment of "what ifs" going through his head when he says that. Like yeah they're safe thanks to the fact Tails woke up. But what if he didn't, Sonic knows he wasn't gonna be able to save them on his own in this situation.
Now Sonic trusts and relies on Tails but in moments of panic when Tails in danger and protective older brother instincts kick in I think Sonic does also forget just how capable Tails is. Not that Sonic thinks less of Tails in any way, that's not what I mean at all, just that he gets to focused on keeping Tails safe he forgets Tails is very capable in pretty much every situation.
These last panels though are so good too:
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I think that a combination of everything with this whole situation is why Sonic looks beyond pissed in this panel.
Eggman's old ally tortured, experimented on, and brainwashed a bunch of kids. The same guy that tried to kidnap Tails.
Surge had a mental breakdown and might be dead for all Sonic knows thanks in part to Eggman's machine which gave her a power high and basically overloaded her.
Eggman attacked them the second she was no longer a threat even with a truce that was supposed to last till they were out of there.
Because of that Kit destroys the building with all of them inside and Tails gets knocked out and almost killed right along side Sonic all cause Eggman couldn't keep his end of the bargain.
I think next time Sonic see's Eggman he's not gonna play so nice and quipy like he normally does. This may have been the straw that breaks the camels back with his attitude towards Eggman. Sonic won't kill him but he's not gonna pull punches either from now on.
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And Tails looks so concerned after that glare Sonic gave. He knows Sonic better than anyone else and knows how mad he actually is. Even though Sonic is down playing his anger with is words afterwards a bit, seemingly letting it go, Tails knows him well enough to pick up on the fact that Sonic's still angry. And yeah Sonic backs off and leaves but even walking away he looks pissed off. (Tails just looks tired walking away and the wisps look traumatized, bless them they need a nap after being trapped and used like that)
Any way that's just my thoughts on the new issue. Let me know what ya'll think.
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kayzean · 1 year
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Right so after THAT (linking to @rooftop--runner 's post) q&a from Ian Flynn, I felt inspired. (IDW Sonic spoilers? I guess?)
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Dont repost to other socials thanks!
The scene that influenced me under the cut:
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the-sky-queen · 4 months
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Hey if anyone knows where to find this one post about IDW issue 56 entitled "6 seconds ago" where it goes into Sonic's POV when he died for a second, please let me know. I can't remember where I found it and I need it in my life again.
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thefantastician · 1 year
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what if surge met shadow
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loopd33loop · 1 year
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Here’s the rest
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Spoilers but there’s the reference panel below
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keebokuun · 1 year
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Hello amy rose ma’am? these boys need a hug NOW
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molinaskies · 8 months
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Sonic and the Mirror of Trauma: Scrapnik Island
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Scrapnik Island is by far the most intriguing and impressive IDW Sonic miniseries so far. Daniel Barnes wrote an excellent story about recovering from trauma, struggling to escape your past, and facing the setbacks that come with both of those, and Nathalie Fourdraine and Jack Lawrence produced some beautiful art.
On its surface, the story has the potential to be a cheeky, cliché one-off akin to a spooky Halloween story (that started in December… hehe). But, when you look deeper at the plot and some of the tropes, and once you remember that it takes place between issue 56 (which I’ve crucially discussed at length) and issue 57, it suddenly becomes so much more important.
Mecha Sonic is a version of Sonic who has been forced to address the pain of his life and dabble with the consequences, and he represents the moment that Sonic has to face his own trauma—and that scares him.
Scrapnik Island sets off with the Scrapniks pursuing Sonic to help him, but Sonic, of course, has missed the memo. Mecha Sonic is hottest on Sonic’s trail, which stands out to me as not only is Sonic visibly afraid of Mecha (both from his sudden presence and from his memories of their last encounter), but he’s actively running away from his trauma, his past, his fear.
Even after Sonic’s been set straight on the Scrapniks’ deal, he’s still put off by Mecha Sonic’s silent demeanour and their history. So, Sonic treats him coldly, and this animosity triggers something deep within Mecha that he fights to starve off.
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There is lots of visual storytelling to indicate that Sonic and Mecha Sonic are meant to be literary foils, but below is my favourite example. A flashback of a decommissioned Mecha Sonic fades into a present shot of Sonic “taking it easy,” but more so getting fed up with his situation.
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Sonic is also particularly distrustful (and afraid) of Mecha Sonic, compared to the other Scrapniks. However, as time runs on, Sonic comes to an initial understanding of Mecha’s changed ways and wants to make peace. However, right after this, Mecha Knuckles attacks, Mecha Sonic defends and, in a way, sacrifices himself for Sonic, and things fall apart from here.
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After Mecha Sonic is triggered during his battle with Mecca Knuckles (after a forceful encounter with Mecha Sonic’s past that sends him down a path of relapse), Mecha Sonic loses his ability to starve off Eggman’s primary programming. He turns on Sonic once again, but instead of serving Eggman, he strives to serve himself. While Mecha is falling victim to his traumatic past and coping mechanisms, the unfortunate thing about this is how it all reads to Sonic: another betrayal of his trust. It all calls back to Mr. Tinker, Metal Sonic, and Surge.
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Mecha Sonic’s plan is to swap bodies with Sonic so that Mecha can use Sonic’s speed to escape the island, but the Scrapniks attack before the transfer can complete. This leaves Mecha and Sonic in an in-between state where they hear each other thoughts and feel each other’s feelings.
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Even though Sonic states that the anger and sadness in his head is not his own, he’s still clearly shown to be feeling those feelings. They don’t originate from him, but their presence mingles with his own emotions to produce something darker and more irritated. Their presence also acts as a gateway of sorts, where the latent anger and sadness that Sonic can’t suppress makes it harder for him to put away his own feelings. Couple that with his physical pain from his sprained ankle (on the same leg he busted up a few issues prior), and soon, Sonic snaps for the first time in the entire IDW comic’s run.
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I love whenever Sonic’s anger is allowed to shine because he is never enraged for petty reasons. Sonic has an attitude that often leads him to cranky comments, but Sonic is genuinely angry here because it hurts him to see someone speak so lowly of themselves, to have been hurt by the world so poorly. Mecha Sonic is also yet another person who has been created by Eggman’s terror specific to oppose Sonic. It’s another example of Surge’s “I will kill you or die trying” with the added complexity of Mecha’s attempt at redemption being corrupted by the trauma of Eggman’s influence. This puts pressure on Sonic because these impositions put Mecha, Surge, Kit, and others like them in direct opposition to Sonic for reasons entirely of no fault of his own—and that angers him. All Sonic strives to do with his life and his gift is help people, and to have so many people come out of the woodworks to say that the only thing he can do to help them is to kill himself is absolutely devastating to him. Not only because he believes in the direct opposite—that the only person who can give one purpose is oneself—but because it threatens to strip his own purpose away from him whenever these notions are unearthed.
Sonic isn’t angry at Mecha, personally. He’s angry at the system created to hurt them both.
The most important thing to remember is that, unless I fully missed something*, that strange mind-link thing between Sonic and Mecha Sonic is never undone. After Sonic cries Mecha Sonic’s tears, the story cuts to Tails officially deprogramming Mecha Sonic and Mecha Knuckles from Eggman’s directives, but it’s never explicitly stated that Mecha Sonic’s and Sonic’s mental link was reversed.
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It can be reasonably assumed that it occurs off-screen (off-page? Outside of what is shown to the reader) because that would make general sense, but then again, so did the reprogramming, and that was explicitly mentioned. Further, it’s a general rule in writing for media that if you want something to be known about your story, it needs to be shown to the audience if not alluded to or directly referred to having happened. So, this is either an oversight, or it’s entirely intentional.
* The only way I can imagine this being accounted for is that the machine that linked Sonic and Mecha’s brains, the Egg Noggin, is (obviously) an Eggman device. Thus, whenever Tails removed Eggman’s programming from Mecha Sonic and Mecha Knuckles, perhaps it also restored Sonic’s brain to normal. This, however, feels like a bit of a stretch because we never see or hear of Sonic needing or receiving any treatment, but I am willing to consider it to be a viable reason. Either way, I think the point I’m about to make still stands as either a physical change or an emotional change in Sonic’s character.
This experience, this sharing of minds in such an intimate way where they can both so clearly hear each other’s hearts, taught them something. I read this as some sort of floodgates being opened, where while Mecha Sonic can more easily feel compassion and listen to the good in his core, Sonic now more clearly feels his anger and has a harder time suppressing his emotions. Whether there is lasting physical damage left in Sonic or he’s simply reeling from the depth of his emotions felt in this adventure, there’s been a clear impact.
Even if Sonic isn’t fully delving into things just yet, he’s taken a lesson away from all of this.
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(From the IDW Endless Summer One-Shot, set between issue 64 and issue 65 and after the 900th adventure one-shot)
If nothing else, Sonic clearly understands trauma better now. Sonic is absolutely traumatized by his experiences with Eggman and other high-stakes adventures, but again, due to his tendency to push away his darker emotions, he hasn’t processed much of this. Sonic puts all his sadness and rage and fear and confusion into box after box after box before shoving everything onto a big, cluttered shelf, never to be seen again… until now. With such a clear look into the mind of someone actively reeling through trauma, a trauma so like his own, that shelf has collapsed, and now everything is spilling onto the floor before Sonic, quick as can be, can stop it.
Sonic is finally starting to understand the bigger picture, but I don’t think he’s fully on the path of self-awareness. I think there’s more boiling under the surface, more than even he realizes. And if Sonic keeps taking these micro-risks (instead of his usual Hail-Marys) that are fueled by his anger, like storming the Eggperial City too soon, then something will have to give.
Scrapnik Island is incredibly important to the IDW storyline because it showcases not only Sonic learning the depths of his pain and the pain of others but also yet another nail in Eggman’s coffin.
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socksboxsketches · 1 year
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We all know Eggman’s a bad bitch, you can’t kill him.
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natyantle · 1 year
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I can’t stop myself from killing you...
Wait, what do you mean that’s not what happend in the issue? 
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mbrine · 4 months
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If I had a nickel for every time Tails tries to catch Sonic, gets headshot by a rock, then caught by Sonic, followed by Sonic slipping off of something, I'd have 2 nickels.
Which isn't a lot but it's pretty funny that it happened twice.
Anyways time to get Issue 68 wew
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keykidpilipili · 11 months
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Surge the tenrec is truly furry lesbian Repliku
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shadamyheadcanons · 10 months
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Who do you think is phisically stronger? Amy or Shadow? I know Shadow is very powerfull with all his Chaos Attacks but what if they have a sparing match with no powers outside the strength of their muscles? I think Amy can keep up with him, maybe even better than Sonic
(I have another ask similar to this, but I’m tackling them separately because the other one is An Undertaking.)
In a strictly physical fight, I’d give the edge to Shadow. Super speed is an absurdly broken ability. Amy’s strong as hell, but strength doesn’t matter if you can’t land a hit. Just ask Knuckles:
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Sonic X episode 56 [source]
We have actually seen Shadow and Amy fight before if you count the Archie comics, and it didn’t end well for Amy.
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Archie Sonic Universe issue 22, page 20 [source]
Ouch :(
In his defense, she did strike first 11 pages earlier, and he probably wasn’t in any hurry to get clobbered again. Still not his finest moment, but at least he had the decency to look regretful afterward:
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And Shadow. SHADOW.
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Archie Sonic Universe issue 22, page 21 [source]
That’s not how you carry your future wife, dammit! She’s not a sack of potatoes! Even Sonic’s better at this. Someone teach this boy some manners. And I guess it runs in the family, too, because Silver isn’t much better:
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IDW Sonic issue 59, page 6 [source]
How did Blaze wind up upside-down?! He’s carrying Amy just fine! 
Anyway, while it’s true that Shadow used his Chaos powers in that Archie fight, I don’t even think it would’ve made a difference if he didn’t. He’s just too fast. He wasn’t even teleporting when he grabbed her hammer.
Amy’s way more of a threat these days, but she’s leveled up in power, not speed. She still needs help to get anywhere in a hurry:
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IDW Sonic issue 2, page 15 [source]
So unless we’re assuming all of Shadow’s speed comes from Chaos energy, which is a stretch, she couldn’t land a hit on him. And while we’re at it, summoning a giant hammer out of thin air is probably Chaos energy, too, and she’s not getting anywhere without the hammer.
Oddly enough, I actually think she’d have a better chance if they were allowed to use Chaos powers. This post is evidence enough. In short: she counters his Chaos Spears with Storming Heart, she can stop time longer than he can, AND she needs only half the rings he does to pull it off. Rose Typhoon matches Chaos Blast, too.
Most importantly, though, she can turn invisible to render Chaos Control useless. Shadow relies heavily on teleportation to control the battlefield and take enemies off guard, as shown above, but you can’t sneak up on something you can’t find, no matter how fast you are. Anyone who’s played Sonic Heroes knows that when you turn invisible as Espio, your teammates will awkwardly freeze in place until you’re visible again because they don’t know where you are. If you try it in a team battle, your opponent will just start running around in circles, as if they’re a frightened rabbit stuck on a loop of “WHAT DO I DO, WHAT DO I DO, WHAT DO I DO--” And guess what? Shadow is no exception! Proof:
It’s literally just this:
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Gaze upon your precious Ultimate Lifeform now. Useless! For shame! Are you not entertained?! And it’s not just bad AI from an old game that proves this. Shadow relies heavily on being able to see his foes. He consistently struggles against trickery. That’s how Infinite got the jump on him.
Amy can’t stay invisible as long as Espio can, but she wouldn’t have to. She’d have plenty of time to take Shadow by surprise. With modern!Amy’s obscenely high damage output, she’d demolish him before he could even think of striking back.
Amy in 2009:
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Archie Sonic Universe issue 22, page 9 [source]
Amy now:
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IDW issue 2, page 7 [source]
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Sonic Frontiers Prologue: Convergence, page 4 [source]
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IDW Sonic issue 58, pages 19-20 [source]
He’d probably think it was beautiful...if he lived.
So there you have it. Sonic and Shadow ultimately just stalemate each other, but if Amy were given access to all her OP abilities--ALL of them--and a little luck, I think she could potentially take Shadow out. It also helps that she never really uses her more broken skills. He’s never seen her invisibility, for example. If he takes the same approach he took in Archie, he wouldn’t start out fighting at full strength like he does against someone like Sonic. Say what you like about the Archie fight, but he was fairly merciful--for him, at least--toward Amy. If he tried that now, it would be over before he even knew what he was up against.
Will it ever happen in canon? Nah, but that’s what this blog is for!
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thereminzone · 1 year
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[ID: a panel redraw of sonic idw issue 56, depicting kit pulling surge out of the water and floating above the ground using his hydrokinesis. The lighting is dark and cool, and they're both drawn with features more similar to the animals they're based on, having longer snouts. End ID]
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