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littleragondin · 2 months
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SHIPPER TAG GAME
I was tagged by @lurkingshan, thank you very much (´꒳`)♡ My memory is not the best so some of these are going to be a little challenging lol but let’s try!
1. What ship were you completely obsessed with when you were a teenager, but now you don't care anymore?
I don’t know how to “not care” about things I once loved I’m afraid lol. But ships that consumed my life that I now don’t think about very often and am more “what a good surprise to see you here, I still like you" than "oh you are back to consume my life for the next two to fifteen months" are most of the things I watched when I was younger: Logan/Max from Dark Angel, Sam/Jack and Daniel/Jack from Stargate:SG1, Jim/Blair from The Sentinel, Piper/Leo from Charmed, Tim/Tony and Gibbs/Tony from NCIS, etc...
2. Which ship would you consider your first one?
Hmmm… I think the first time I felt emotionally invested in two characters ending up together – in a “watching religiously and asking my mom to tape the wedding episode because we would be traveling on the day it was to be diffused” kind of way – is Fran Fine and Maxwell Sheffield from The Nanny.
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We knew they were end game, but STILL!
3. Your first fanfic belonged to which couple?
Oh, good question… I came into fandom via manga and while they were not the ones I shipped the hardest (I was a hardcore Gaara/Lee fan ♡♡♡), I think the first fics I read were NaruSasu and/or Kakashi/Iruka – on personal fan websites.
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The first shipping fic I wrote hmmm… I think it actually was some Kakashi/Iruka? I tumbled into fandom really fast once I found it so it’s a bit of a blur lol but yeah, pretty sure it was something Naruto related.
4. Do you remember the first couple you saw a fanart over?
… Not really, but probably either something from One Piece (Zorro/Luffy or Zorro/Sanji) or Neon Genesis Evangelion – those two were the very first manga I read (circa 2002), and I vaguely remember checking them on Google Image for my favorite hobby: “collecting images from the internet that I would then organize carefully in the computer’s little folders” so I must have found some cute stuffs that I didn’t even realize were shipping…
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5. Did you ever get into ship discourse?
No. While I generally have strong opinions about stuff, I am pretty non confrontational and I’m here for a good time, not to fight with people, so I avoid it. I’ve seen stuffs that I’m glad I didn’t poke with a ten feet pole. On top of that, I am a huge believer and practitioner of “shipping one character with more than one person (in a polycule or not)” so ship wars have never made much sense to me. Even in qL, even when I really adore the endgame couple(s), I often like thinking of the options, the what-if, etc. so fighting about that does not sound appealing lol
6. Did you used to have any no-otp or have it currently?
Talking about my very first fandoms, I never wanted Sakura with either Naruto nor Sasuke lol I loved her, but hated the idea of either options. Still not sold on it tbh. I also really hated the idea of Hermione with either of the other two lsdfj same reason, I loved her so much, and I loved that they were friends!
I have ships I am uninterested in but I always feel like notp is a little stronger than that, so I don’t think I have any currently.
7. Who were the couple in the last fanfic you read?
Oof, okay, life does come back full circle lol I binged the One Piece Live Action at the start of the month, so the last fics I’ve read since were all Zorro/Luffy.
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8. Currently, do you have any OTPs?
DO I EVER?? I have OTP that have been in my heart since I’m 10. And, I mean, by virtue of watching so much QL I have an OTP in every couple I watch get together for 8 to 12 episodes, I’m a big, mushy romantic. Also I will daydream about ships from about anything I watch so…But! My current OTP, the one that owns my heart, that gets me to literally squeal in delight, makes me gasp and cry and twirl my hair while kicking my feet is Nomoto and Kasuga from She loves to cook and she loves to eat!
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I love them sooooo much it’d be ridiculous if I had any sort of dignity about that kind of things (I don’t) (*´▽`*)
9. Is there any couple that, to this day, you are extremely mad about not getting together?
Ok you know what? I rewatched some episodes with my mom over my christmas break so I will say yes, Jack O’Neil and Samantha Carter in Stargate:SG1. Yeah, yeah I don’t care that he is her commanding officer and blablabla.
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After all this teasing, damn, we could have gotten a little something something when the team finally breaks alright?
10. Is there any ship you used to dislike but now you think they are kind of interesting?
I can’t really think of anything right now to be honest… I feel like anything I’d feel strongly enough to remember I would still dislike now, though, to be frank.
11. Do you have any ship that, in the past, was considered normal but now you would be canceled over?
I guess? I mean, I came to fandom and to QL via yaoi – wich I started reading around 2005, so you can imagine the amount of “problematic” content I enjoyed. Age gaps (I was a HUGE fan of Naono Bohra who like those a lot), power imbalance, dub-con (one of the first yaoi translated in France was Gravitation), and so on and so forth.
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12. What was your favorite crack ship?
I can’t answer that one, mainly because I used to have so many of them (I still do, don’t look at me). I got into superheros comics when I was something like 18 and I did RP with a friend where looking back, it seems like our main game was to pair everyone no matter how silly it might have been. I guess in those, I still have a fondness for everything we did that crossed the DC/Marvel divide. We also played a lot with those random ship generators? They gave you two characters and you tried to find a way to make it work. I still like those!
13. Who is the couple you read more fanfics of?
Across all of time?? I… have no idea… like really none. Recently, it’s probably any variations of 3zuns from The Untamed, but for the early years I could not say.
14. What most of your ships usually have in common?
The love I have for them (*¯︶¯*)
Joke aside, I’m not sure? I’m a simple creature, I’m easily swayed, if there is something compelling in the dynamic, I will be interested. I like them sweet but I also have pretty toxic ships, so I think the main thing for me is that there is something interesting going on that makes me want to root for them and/or think about them and how they work together.
15. What do you absolutely hate in a ship?
I need to believe there is a way for them to genuinely love each other. But sometimes, ~the vibes~ just feel rancid to me and I can’t get into it, I can’t explain more than that ^^”
I'll tag, if you feel so inclined: @benkaaoi @troubled-mind @bengiyo @gillianthecat @iguessitsjustme and @heretherebedork
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tolkienbrained · 2 years
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when i first heard about yoshiden i was like ok cool ship but it doesn't make much sense but THEN i started thinking about it and found and absolute goldmine.
first off, we all know or at least can tell that one of the main overarching themes in chainsaw man is the subversion of common shonen tropes (which fujimoto does wonderfully, mind you) such as "the perverted main character". denji is a subversion of this trope for many reasons which should be discussed in a different post but how wonderful would it be for the sex-crazed women-obsessed character to realize that, oh, maybe women aren't the only option and end up with a guy? i say bisexual denji rights. although to be fair it's true that so far there hasn't been any indication for this in the manga, i don't think denji is at the point where he has realized exactly WHY he's so obsessed with women (cough mommy issues and touch-deprivation).
linking that last point a bit with the Yoshiden Thesis™ we have the fact that a lot of his affection for makima in the first part was most likely linked to this deprivation of love as he grew up and possibly to his lack of a mother figure while he was growing up. and of course makima herself instigated this affection and knowingly manipulated denji. most women denji has known until now have used him, and hurt him in different ways (or just have been older women that shouldn't be messing with a sixteen-year-old anyway). in fact, the ONLY genuinely positive relationship with a woman denji has in part 1 is with power, and it's completely platonic. and it's not only women who have hurt denji, most people in part 1 (with some notable exceptions (aki and power my beloveds)) were not interested in denji, didn't want denji, just cared about chainsaw man and the chainsaw devil. yoshida is someone tasked with protecting DENJI and making sure DENJI gets to live a peaceful, happy life. he has shown a willingness to put up with denji's ridiculousness and has even seemed amused by it. it's too early in part 2 to honestly tell, but we could even say he cares about denji (or possibly will soon since fujimoto needs more characters to break denji's heart even more, fucker).
once again coming back to the "women-obsessed, sex-crazed" part, denji being deprived of affection made him grow up thinking that was the only way to show affection and love, possibly because of how media and society, in general, are very sexualised. a lot of his arc in part 1 was him realizing this isn't true, as shown in his relationship with power and aki. it would be a nice finishing touch to that arc for him to realize that not only are platonic affective relationships possible and just as important/fulfilling as romantic ones, but how romantic relationships also aren't just limited to women and sex by falling in love with yoshida.
of course all of this is talking from a fandom/fanfic standpoint. these are just the reasons why i personally love the ship and consume content on it, and i'm in no way saying "this is definitely going to be canon!!" lol. i went a bit off the rails here but i'm just obsessed with yoshiden rn.
TL;DR yoshiden FUCKS and would go greatly along denji's arc and the themes in chainsaw man.
EDIT: oh my god i just reread this and i mean fucks as in it's very cool not as in they're fucking each other i'm crying LMAO
EDIT2: seeing the recent chapters all of this is most likely going down the drain but i'm still shipping yoshiden idc
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floareadeaur · 2 months
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Lately I have noticed more and more people becoming aware of the state of Western OnS fandom, the fact that it seems like much of this fandom does not seem to understand anything about the series they proclaim to be their "favorite".
I too have noticed this for many years and have an opinion about it.
Therefore I will express what is my perspective on the situation and what I think is the reason for this state of affairs.
First,
" Kagami strongly believes that if a person knows their strong points, they should just write what they want to write, because their every work will find its fans. He, for one, would still want to write about family and meaning of life whatever his setting is, while Inoue would probably still be interested in friendship and fun in any work. So even if the two of them wrote about a bank worker, Kagami would still turn it into a story about family and meaning of life, while Inoue, as he says himself, would probably write about how much fun that bank worker has after work in to pub. "
This is an excerpt from an interview of Kagami Takaya with another Japanese author where they both talked about their works and what they like to write.
The OnS author loves to write about family and the meaning of life.In the same interview, he says how in his shonen series he focuses on deep friendships between boys and how he portrays these friendships as a "family", like a brotherly bond.
All these statements of the author find maximum resonance in the OnS series itself. The whole manga story is about family and the meaning of life. Sika Madu is, in fact, the father of all humanity. Then each individual character has a brotherhood with another character.
And the manga series explores this family love, brotherly especially, and the lack of this family love, what are the consequences of its presence or absence.
Very little in OnS is about erotic love, romance. We only get two developments of this kind of love: in Shinoa Hiiragi for Yuu and in the relationship between Mahiru and Guren. These themes are touched upon here, the importance and consequences of this kind of love.
Instead, OnS treats the other types of love in full.
The Greeks classified love into four types: erotic love (romantic), filia love (friendship), sorginte love (family), agape love (unconditional love for God and God's love for us).
OnS centers a lot on agape love, and sorginte love.
It is about the love of God, about the lack of love of the God of OnS world for the people who loved him, though. It is about family love, the lack of that kind of love, and the consequences of such a situation.
Sorginte love and agape love are central themes in OnS. Because both deal with themes beloved by the author: the family and the meaning of human life.
And the whole story fully manages to deal deeply with these two themes.
But from what I have observed, the western OnS fandom is not able to differentiate between these types of love. For most of the fandom, any kind of hate or love relationship falls into the "romantic" category of the erotic. It does not matter what kind of love the author portrays, for the fandom it all boils down to an exaggerated and sick romanticizing.
All types of love are just "eros" for fandom.
Why this?
Honestly, I think it is somewhat the fault of western society for its hypersexualization and the perversion of the educational system, which no longer explains the existence of different types of love, but insistently reduces everything to "romance".
This can also show the serious lack of genuine affection in today's society and how the desperate need for it turns into a sick romanticization of any kind of relationship presented in fiction.
In the end, sure, I think everyone has the right to view this series as they want. But trying to understand the author's message shows true sympathy for a series and pays off in the long run.
Projecting one's own ideologies and needs onto a series, to the point of completely distorting the story and even discrediting the author, only perpetuates a negative state of affairs and does not promise great benefits.
Unfortunately, I see more prominence of the second approach over the OnS series. And that is why this fandom is so toxic and gives off such an unpleasant vibe.
However, this does not change the OnS story itself. As Takaya Kagami also said in an interview, as he will only write what he feels regardless of what his fans ask, the author is very sure of the message he wants to convey.
And readers who want to see this message, I think, have plenty to enjoy in this wonderful series!
Thanks for reading this and have a good day to anyone who comes across this post!
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Yes,I'm gonna talk about THE KISS 💜🌈
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I'm still jumping around my home and seeing all the Kokonui edits I can find, 24h later and the hype doesn't go away.
So I wanna talk about why seeing this kiss animated (specially in such a beautiful way, really, thanks Liden Films), was so important for me.
I started to watch anime when I was little and, besides Dragon Ball, Sakura and Sailormoon were the first animes that really catch my attention.
Sakura specially will always have a place in my heart 💜
(and yes, I know CLAMP had a lot of dark shit going on on their mangas, but when I was a kid, I only saw the queerness and that made me happy)
I was around eight/nine years old, it was the end of the 90s and the queer representation in occident was... Terrible. It didn't almost exist and was full of "kill your gays" and queerbating.
Suddenly, I was watching a show were it was okay for a girl like Tomoyo being in love with her best friend, were nobody had any problem with Xioran being oppenly bisexual (he likes Yukito before Sakura), were Toya and Yukito became my first ship ever. I used to scream to the tv with their scenes, saying things like "okay, gave Yukito your magic, but say that you love him Toya! Focus! Kiss!"
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Then, Sailormoon had Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus that were girlfriends. More than one character with genderfuckery. The three Sailor Stars that were genderfluid in a legendary level.
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Ranma was also there. Non-binary dream for me, thanks Ranma 💜
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I'm saying that, for a queer kid in the 90s, the level of genderfuckery that anime had made me felt seen. Made me felt like I wasn't that weird for liking the girls in my class, for not feeling like a boy or a girl (even if it took me decades to realize why). This characters, this representations, made me felt less alone. Made me think for the first time in my life, that there was other people like me, that being straight and follow gender roles wasn't the only choice out there.
Edit, because I forgot to mention Utena. The girl that refuses to adapt to gender roles and ends ups becoming her own prince and saving her girlfriend from the abusive brother. Utena was also mythical for me.
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Of course, not everything was wholesome in the way of portraying queer representation in anime and manga, I'm not saying that.
So that was what got me into anime, what made me start buying manga with my small allowance.
A few years later, I discovered fanfiction.net, yaoi and BL. I found a place on the internet full of people shipping characters that were like me. A place were it was safe being queer. I also started getting into shonen, were the queerness wasn't as magical as in shoujo, but thanks mostly to the fandom, it was still there. I could ship them even if it wasn't canon, because most of this characters never had a romantic interest, so... Who said they were straight? (Obviously, even if they were in canon, we could ship them anyway)
And this is what I'm trying to say. More than twenty years later of seeing myself in a character like Tomoyo, of starting to ship gay couples in anime...
I COULD FINALLY SEE A GAY KISS BEING ANIMATED IN A SHONEN!!!
(I insist, in such a beautiful and perfect way)
So no matter what you think about this ship, about Koko and Inupi relationship, no matter if you like it or you hate it...
What happened yesterday was really important for a lot of people. Because having referents, can save queer people lives. Is that simple.
So thanks Liden Films, thanks Ken Wakui 💜
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Of course, I also had a big hype when this scene happened in the manga and Wakui gave us so much gay subtext (not so subtle most of the time), that I could make a whole post about queerness in Tokyo Revengers. But let's be honest, there is a lot of only anime watchers out there. Or a lot of people that, like me, discovered manga thanks to anime.
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dekusleftsock · 9 months
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How shocked and how dramatic do you think the broader scope of mha consumers will be when toga doesn’t actually die? How they’re jumping the gun into thinking that she’s dead just due to a blood transfusion?
Imma be honest I am living in a bit of an echo chamber rn, there’s not all that much I really KNOW about their reactions.
For all I know, I feel like it’ll be an average Tuesday yk, kinda like when bakugou wasn’t ACTUALLY dead and people weren’t freaking out over it.
I have this like, image in my head sometimes. Ochako, Izuku, Katsuki, and Toga are standing on a hill in silence with a sunset background. There’s nothing said, no words spoken, but it’s always what I imagine the ending to this series. Do I think or want what I imagine to happen? Not really. I want toga and ochako to get a kiss, or at the very least I want bkdk to kiss bc it IS a slowburn.
But unfortunately what I’m personally most scared of is if izu//ocha just never become a thing and… bkdk + tgck are just implied. Because it’s not what I think will create genuine change. What will create change is a confirmation of one or both of them that, yes, these two same sex characters are lovers. And there’s no argument you can make, or theory you can write, or hc that can make this be anything than what it is: True queer representation.
Do I think toga not being dead will create uproar? Maybe some. Maybe in the distant annoying fans on Twitter who complain about “the 30 year old white women who like bkdk”, but do they really matter? They’re a loud minority sure, but most of them are just fucking wannabe edgelords that like making people angry or uneasy. They like a show, a reaction. That’s it. That’s all they ever want.
But what I want though? I want shonen jump’s merch to take a spike in sales for mha, I want people across the world confused and disoriented that this random anime has been trending for weeks on Twitter, I want tumblr to break itself and your dash to be filled with nothing but the fact that mha’s joke ships fucking won. Bkdk’s are REALLY easy to make fun of. A lot of them are teenagers, a lot of them are lgbt, and there’s a lot of them in general. They’re everywhere. Just like how in my state we call New Yorkers the “roaches of the east coast”, mha fans are kind of the roaches of anime fandoms. It would affect everyone, even people who could give less of a fuck about the manga.
(I mean that in the best way possible btw, I love that we’re everywhere and I can be connected to so many different types of people just bc mha is so big. WE THE ROACHES BABYYYYY)
What I mean by all of this is that, I want mha to be a silly footnote in queer history. There’s very few shows that get the opportunity to even be decently popular, much less as popular as mha. In my mind, mha has a chance to say “fuck you” to all of the misogynistic and homophobic people in the world personally. They came into mha to get a battle shonen, and they leave with the first large shonen manga with not one, but two queer love stories.
That doesn’t happen often, or ever. Horikoshi has the ability to make a name for himself as someone who mattered, or someone who became another cog in the machine. Thats what I think will truly create a reaction.
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hxhhasmysoul · 4 months
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Just see this in twitter by someone :
"Why do people read shonen for subtextual doomed yaoi click bait when X exists and you don’t have to pretend?"
"I'm starting to think maybe people should read actual BL manga. perhaps considering manga written with actual gay characters in it in addition to shipping m x m from whatever battle shounen you're into."
Like because of those subtext, there can be fanfics and fanarts, right? And then I decided to come here, this blog of yours is one of my favorite place...
First of, thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you're enjoying my blog even if it's a hot mess at times.
While I enjoy my ships that I have from the shounes I like, I didn't read /watch HxH or JJK for the ships. When I first watched the HxH anime it was after years of deep depression where I stopped reading things and watching things or playing games with plots. I'd just put forgettable shows or youtube videos in the background and play some mind numbing click game if I wasn't working.
I literally don't remember anything from that time, at least I was semi functional then, I had worse times. But summer was the worst, I didn't make much money generally but over the summer I had like one fifth of my regular work load at best and I just couldn't handle the existential dread and anxiety.
And I was watching videos of people speaking about media i knew all day and eventually I ran out of those that were about stuff I knew but I liked the person's voice so I clicked onto videos about stuff i didn't. And things they said about HxH made me go: really? And it was something about the last phase of the Hunter's Exam, it had nothing to do with any ship.
And I made the effort to watch a whole ass fucking anime. Like 100+ episodes. In about 5 days. It had characters I really started to love early on like Gon and Killua or Melody and train-wreck characters like Hisoka or Illumi that I couldn't stop myself from looking at with utter fascination, like wtf. And it had these intertwining plot lines and it didn't focus on just one character and Gon didn't even fight some of the bosses and the plot just veered into places I didn't expect but in the best fucking way possible and in the Chimera Ant arc it was really going from bad to worse and getting more tense and painful and the sense of dread and doom was mounting ... and it traumatised me. And I didn't know what to do with myself and for the first time ever I turned to fandom to process what I've experienced. And yeah I came out of convince that Gon and Killua loved each other in a romantic way and it was very important but like I didn't go into it or even kept watching for that.
HxH unlocked in me the ability to enjoy stuff again. To actually interact with media. It made me write alone again, not just co-write with a friend.
And like I don't watch/read that much. I don't have the time or energy, I also want to keep enjoying fandom and that takes up time and write my own stuff.
I don't even remember why I watched JJK. I knew absolutely nothing about it going, not who the characters were, not what the plot was. Like I must've read some blurb but I really don't know. And like episode one and I loved Yuuji and I just kept watching and the Junpei episodes came and I had to stop watching for a day and collect myself because how could they you know, how could they to my child... And after I finished the anime I read the manga and it was better? And worse, so much more traumatising.
But JJK is my kind of story too, it doesn't overfocus on one character, it has intertwining plots. It has some characters that I love or am fascinated by.
Years ago I used to read a lot of BL but none really stuck with me because they weren't that much my kind of stories. I'm not saying they were bad, they just weren't it for me.
But this is why I read HxH or JJK. The shipping for me is the result, not the reason. I just want more with the characters I love, more situations more emotions. So I love the fanart and the fanfic and it really adds to my enjoyment of these characters and their stories.
But also everyone is different and reads for different reasons. So people who say you should read X instead are really presumptuous, the imagine that they understand why someone enjoys something, what experiences and emotions they are after. And like maybe there are BL stories with characters like Gon and Killua and Yuuji, there are certainly BL stories with guys with kinda Sukuna vibes, I vaguely remember that. It's just that I haven't stumbled upon any that'd have the other factors too that make me enjoy HxH or JJK. Maybe I will encounter them and enjoy them but with how much time and energy I have, I likely won't go out there to look for them to prove someone's point that I'd just enjoy those hypothetical stories more.
There's this annoying culture in fandom where people expect others to justify why they enjoy things. And it's not enough for you to have a reason to like something, the reason will be scritinised and it's validity will be judged. And those people who feel that need to play judge to what others enjoy and and how, they really make fandom and online spaces worse for everyone. They are like those nosy neighbours who stand in their window all day watching what everyone else is doing. And we all know that the window neighbours are creepy, but somehow the fandom judges are not called nosy and creepy enough and honestly they should be. Because honestly they should mind their fucking business.
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themanofax · 2 years
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What Makes Someone a Joestar?
So I’ve been diving headfirst into Stone Ocean recently; I finished the second batch a while ago, and just finished re-reading the manga.  I’m feeling Very Normal about the whole thing, and so I wanted to take some time to write about what I think is the most heartbreakingly beautiful part of the story, as well as how it embodies what makes JoJo different from so many other series out there.
It should go without saying that Stone Ocean is meant to be a culmination of all the previous parts.  The “main story” of JoJo can be traced from Part 1 through Part 3, before concluding with Part 6.  Strictly speaking, the main universe is “about” the Joestars and their conflicts with the Brandos; Parts 2, 4 and 5, while amazing, are more meant to flesh out the universe and characters in preparation for the conclusion of this overarching storyline.  (I should mention that Part 4 is by far my favorite and this isn’t meant to be criticizing these parts, lol)
So, obviously, with Part 6 being the last Part in the main universe, Araki had a tall task ahead of him.  How would he decide to end this story - this war that started 131 years ago, when an unfortunate carriage driver careened off a cliff and set Fate into motion?  Who would be the one to deal the final blow, to be the instrument of justice that set right all the wrongs that DIO had wrought?
Most mangaka would’ve said “the main character”.  Others, slightly less conventional ones, would’ve said “all the characters together - or maybe, Jotaro, since he was the one who killed DIO in Part 3.  Or maybe, Pucci wins, and the storyline ends with tragedy.”
All valid answers.  But Araki chose differently.
Araki decided that the hero of Part 6 would be a scared little boy.  A boy who was emboldened by the main character’s sacrifice.  A boy who became so much braver, so much cleverer, so much more determined than he ever could’ve dreamed he could be.  
Emporio Alniño is the last character anyone could’ve expected to be the sole survivor of Part 6.  I can only imagine how confused, scared and hopeless weekly readers must’ve felt - “Jolyne and Jotaro are dead!  Emporio is the only one left?  And now we need to wait a week for next chapter?  How are we gonna get out of this?”
But Emporio rose to the occasion.  Screaming, crying as he watched his friend, the older sister he never had, torn apart by an unstoppable god, he found the courage to win.  And, in one of the saddest, most heartrending moments in JoJo, the Part ends as he watches look-alikes of his friends meeting for the first time, knowing that they don’t recognize him and that he is the only being in the entire universe that knows this pain.  A truly amazing ending, which ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT DESERVE THE BAD REPUTATION IT HAS IN THE FANDOM-
Anyway.  What does this have to do with the title of the post?  
Well.  It all ties back to that insanely daring, one-of-a-kind decision that Araki made.  
What does that decision say about JoJo as a whole?  (Or at least, about the main universe.)  It’s a decision that centers around the climax of six parts, of 16 real-world years of storytelling - surely it has some bearing on what the story up to this point has meant.
Well, let’s look at Jolyne.  The protagonist of Part 6, the daughter of invincible shonen badass Jotaro Kujo.  Throughout the part, she displays the ferocity, tenacity, and cleverness that we’ve come to expect from the Joestar bloodline; skinning guards alive to escape their grasps, lighting herself on fire to best one of the sons of DIO, printing out an image in binary to overcome a Stand that messes with one’s memory.  All incredibly impressive... but those traits are not what end up saving the day.
Instead, the trait that Jolyne possesses - that all the Joestars possess - that ends up saving the entire universe... is kindness.  
Jolyne’s selfless, senseless kindness - which inspired her to risk her life to save a little boy she had just met, to defend him as they escaped from prison and fought to revive her father, that inspired her to stand up to a time-bending demon just to buy a few seconds for him to escape.  It is that kindness that allows Emporio to live, that drives him to avenge the main cast and free humanity from an eternity of sleeping slave-dom.  
And that, right there, is what I think makes JoJo so different from so many other shonen.  In any other shonen, Jolyne would’ve overcome Pucci by being the strongest, or the fastest, or the smartest.  And to be sure, those qualities are great!  Every Joestar has those qualities to some degree, and they certainly couldn’t have overcome the obstacles they do in their Parts without them.  But when the cards are down and it’s the main JoJo vs the main villain, what ends up saving the day every time?  
The allies that the JoJos have made.  The no-lifes, the thugs, the villains and nobodies, that the JoJos, through their impossible kindness, were able to redeem.  
And that’s what I think makes a Joestar.  Their ability to bring out the best in others.  Okuyasu was just a street punk mindlessly following his brother’s orders; but when faced with Josuke’s mercy and casual compassion, he was able to become one of Morioh’s staunchest defenders.  Bucciarati was a mafioso who had completely given up hope of bringing about change, who wasn’t above torturing and psychologically manipulating a teenage boy who he didn’t even know for sure was a murderer.  But when faced with Giorno’s golden dream, he woke up from his fate as a sleeping slave, and was able to bring about a better tomorrow for all of Italy.
I could go on.  But hopefully you get the point by now - and maybe you can apply this to your own favorite characters in the series.  In the main universe, the Joestar legacy is one of compassion.  Being the strongest or the smartest means nothing if you don’t have allies on your side; and JoJo as a whole goes to great, pain-staking lengths to show that we, as a species, excel when we are together.  That it is the human connection between us that allows us to overcome gods of time, or immortal vampires, or any other manner of boogeymen and monsters that constantly threaten our future.  And I just think... that’s so refreshing.  
So many shonen make a big deal of their MCs being “special”.  Because they were born with a special power, or because they can beat up the opponent enough that it brings about change.  And, to be clear, the “power of friendship” is a shonen trope for a reason; JoJo isn’t the first series to have this kind of message in a long shot.  But I just... feel like JoJo does it so well.  It never feels cheap, or contrived; and I think that’s because, rather than just being used as a plot device to allow our heroes to beat villains that they logically shouldn’t be able to, JoJo threads that message into its very core.  Not a single moment goes by without the series reminding you of this fundamental truth; and as I described above, it all culminates in the ultimate act of kindness resulting in the ultimate victory.
JoJo is a weird series.  It’s about overly masculine men making strange, sexual poses at each other.  It’s about ghosts punching each other until they explode.  It’s dumb, it’s cheesy, and sometimes it straight up doesn’t make sense.
But at the end of the day, it is a story that posits that humanity can overcome the impossible.  And the vehicle through which they deliver that message - the JoJos, a name synonymous with shonen manga, with badassery and masculinity - are special... because they help others be who they were meant to be.
I think there’s something unspeakably beautiful about that.
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marunalu · 6 months
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I'm in awe of how you're able to hold on to dfo for so long, and I mean it in good way. I wasn't in the fandom for too long (a year?) And dad for one theory was one of the first theories I had encountered that had me fixed strongly on the fandom. I don't know if dfo will happen because the manga had been kinda weird recently (despite the sheer amount of evidence supporting it) but you help me keep on hoping that it could happen!! Thank you!
Thanks for your kind words. 🥰 Honestly I would have stopped believing in dfo long ago if all the evidences werent platantly there and hori still giving us hints. Yeah, the writing of the manga is not very good lately and not gonna lie it kinda kills my enjoyment for it. Its weird because most of my predictions DID become true, but its written im such a weird way I almost wished my predictions had been wrong. Dfo is pretty much the only reason why I still follow this manga and its sad, because I really loved mha before this last arc startet. And because my love for it is not as strong anymore, Im not as active on tumblr anymore. Not because I fear that dfo isnt canon (still 100% sure of it), but because everything else about mha is so.... underwellming and lame currently.
Meanwhile Im rewatching the bleach anime for like the 10ths time and its still so DAMN GOOD! Seriously if anyone else is tired of mha in the moment and hasent watched bleach yet, I really recommend it! You will love the characters and the story! One of the best shonen protagonists ever!
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cabbylove03 · 10 months
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I normally don’t post stuff like this but their has been a topic on the Clock app that has been heavily on my timeline and mind about anime and manga
The topic is about fictional underage characters and aging them up, shipping them and Simping for them as well and is it wrong or not (there is more parts to this topic then that but I want to cover this for now) So I’m going to share my thoughts, feelings, opinions on this topic because I’m still trying to navigate and get my footing with being in the anime fandom because I just started getting into anime at the end of last year so forgive me if I’m lacking but with that being said I’m not new to fandom though
Let’s start with the first gripe that people have about aging up minor characters: people say it’s “wrong "and that it’s “creepy” because it’s like “waiting for a minor to come of age.”
My thing with this is that depending on the anime they already age up the characters themselves (I know for sure MHA which is going to be the main anime for this topic) in My hero academia at the very start Deku says ‘this is how I became the world’s greatest hero’ meaning that he is talking about his past self and telling his story from the future meaning he has already graduated and is a Pro hero. Another anime that does this is Tokyo Revengers because it’s a twelve-year jump between their middle school and adult versions. So, my point is how is it wrong if the show does it?
Let’s start with the second gripe about Shipping characters and problematic ships: shipping has been a thing in every fandom since fandoms culture began. as I have said before I'm not new to fandom I used to be in the MLP (My Little Pony) fandom (without even knowing it lol) and bronies had NO limits with its shipping characters but shows like My Hero Academia is nothing more than a shipping ground with endless possibilities especially with different characters dynamics. their relationships between each other and conflicts in all what I'm trying to say people IT'S COMPLETELY NORMAL TO SHIP lol
The last but not least gripe that I see is simping for underage characters: First and foremost, I just want to clarify that characters like Eri, Anya and Koda are not who I will be referring to because personally I do find it uncomfortable sexualizing them but that's just me. So, with that said there're a lot of factors that go into this. when it comes to anime, I have noticed that with its adult and teenage characters they tend to wright them hand in hand with each other shows like JJk and Tokyo revengers (I mean there are barely any responsible adults in either of them shows lol) they want you to see them as equal characters especially with shonen series. When I like a character I like their design, their personality, their Strengths and weaknesses, and the story being told and wrote about them their ages is such an unimportant that the authors themselves don't put much thought into or pressure on it. Now granted characters like Anya (Spyxfamily) ages play a big factor in their characterization and their mannerisms and how we are supposed too pensive them. With that being said my final opinion is that THEY ARE NOT REAL PEOPLE no matter how much you fight for them online and with shippers THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CARE ABOUT IT Deku, Bakugo, Megumi, Tanjiro, they are not going to jump out and thank you for it they DONT have feelings or emotions. so, they don't have rights and don't have to deal with real creeps and the real traumas STOP TRYING TO HUMANIZE DRAWINGS please and thank u.
@bontensbabygirl @the-chikyuu-times @tokyo-revengers-memes @midotsuyu @mitsuyababygirl
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321some432 · 1 year
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Why sakura is the most popular lovable female character? Part1❤
After naruto ended with sasusaku I was like "ON your face SP"😜 and already moved on with my life but this animated "sasuke retsuden" reminded me how much I hate SP for what they did for sakura and made me want to talk about what was on my mind all these years.
So, to move on again, I'll drop all of it here.
FIRST: let's talk about sakura and the hate she gets from the fandom. it almost become a tradition at this point.
I saw almost 5 years ago some YouTuber's reaction to the naruto series and his chat was spamming hate on sakura. She is this and that "don't be fooled by this episode she is going to be useless" he was forced to hide his emotion for her and once he spoke his mind they start bashing him like he committed a sin. And some YouTubers actually hated sakura influenced by those comments. And some of them started watching naruto knowing already she is supposed to be hated.
I guarantee that you reach this point thinking: "aren't you supposed to tell us why sakura is the most loveable character in naruto and admit the opposite?
I'll give a short answer for those who are not interested in reading more, then I'll take my time explaining it.
Short answer: those haters are treating her like an ex-girlfriend who cheated on them.
Long answer:
Let's talk about it statistically first. The biggest 3 ships in naruto are narusaku, naruhina, sasusaku. And sakura is on 2 sides of them, ALSO naruto is on 2 sides of them.
And there are 3 types of people who like Sakura.
1- People who like her for her not related to any ships
2- People who like her because of her relationship with Sasuke
3- People who like her because of her relationship with Naruto.
For me: I was number 2 because my favorite character is "Sasuke" but she grew up on me and I become number 1. A legit sakura stan "thanks to SP"
And there are 2 types of people who hate sakura
1- The extremist bunch of feminist who is not like the other girls and can't enjoy a show without getting offended because of some personal issues.
2- People who hate her because she is in the way of their ship "reason related to shipping"
What can we get from that?
The only people who hate sakura for "I suppose a good reason" is the feminist. At least they really hate her personality. They didn't like the idea of holding on to one-sided relationship, they don't want to see her suffer and to move on with her life "don't teach young girls that!" And they want her to do more than the hero of the show in a shonen manga (and there is nothing wrong with that am I right?😰 "
Even with that, it is a questionable hatred. Because they seem to want the best for her "from their point of view"
No 1&2 on people who like her are still like her obviously. But those who liked her for naruto are the problem along with No2 in the hater's type. Because sasusaku is the endgame and their ships fail. So let's discuss these two.
Firstly: People who hate Sakura for getting in the way of their ship and there are 3 of them.
Narusasu and sasukarin and naruhina.
And it's all caused by the comparison of who loves who more and who deserve this and does not deserve that. I've known a naruhina fan who liked sakura in the end because she ended with Sasuke. So they don't mind her, they are either naruto fans and feel that Hinata deserves him or a Hinata fans who are rooting for her.
So, they were forced to bash sakura to some degree to show how good and better their ships were compared to it if it was with sakura.
Secondly: the worst of the worst: NARUSAKU who loved sakura for naruto. No one had praised sakura more than them. She was the trophy that they deserves to get. And because of that. They are the ones who become the extremist haters. They started bashing her looks, her character, her development, and her whole existence calling her useless for the sin of "rejecting the hero".
And they are the ones who treated her like an ex-girlfriend who cheated on them. They find another girl and told the world that she is better than her. Overly sexualize her big chest. Creating stories to upgrade their new girl and downgrade their ex. (yes I am looking at you SP)
BUT
Looking at those hater's reasoning, you can see that they don't actually hate her. they just wanted sakura to be in their ship or away from their ship.
I feel like I proved my point by this part but there is a part2
And I'll add my conclusion there.
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green-character · 9 months
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I don't understand why fans hate so much the Bungo Stray Dogs anime ; lately, since season 5 started being aired, the majority of Tweet and tiktok I saw about it are hating on it. I get it our fav panel hasn't been animated like we imagine, even worse some animated scene are very different expression wise, but overall the anime is great.
I personnaly have read the manga and the ligh novels the only thing that really bother me is in the very first season ; Yosano ability being s*xualised like that, I didn't remember so much inuendo in the manga. That's my only complain, I'm a little disappointed for some other things ofc but I think a lot of people have talked about it already ( and I won't share it here because it could spoil someone )
I know we are aware of it, but we (the fandom) should be grateful and talk a little bit more about the positive points of the anime because, it's still the best way to make people start BSD. We need to share some positivity to get them into it.
The chara design are not the same as in the manga but that's okay it's better for the animation and they're still really cool
The animation is pretty great, the colors have changer but it work well specially if you haven't read the manga first.
The OP end Ed are really cool music and image wise
The VA people, the voices actors are so great and the casting >
Some Light novel are animated,that's great for people who don't like LN and we should aknowledge that animating a LN is a little bit more difficult than a manga
I think the complains about Bones are too vocal and take too much space, you can't compare BSD to the most mainstrean shonen like JJK or MHA. Plus all of this complaining go alongside spoiling everything the minute the episode air, that is so annoying, please use spoiler warning, use tag so we can Block them idk...
I also saw people say that it would be better to wait longer between the two season, on one hand yes because it wouldn't be a rush for the animator ; on the other hand no, there can't be a 3 years break anymore, you don't want the manga to be far more advanced than the anime, especially if it's coming to an end, bsd is not enough popular for this and it will end with an original rush ending or no ending at all.
I wrote this because I'm annoyed if you read all of this, thanks ! And have a good day
( Little Update here I'm currently rewatching bsd from the start so I haven't seen the latest ep but I know from twitter wich pannels were ruined and wich were Nicely animated )
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a-hobit · 2 years
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What is your opinion on the people who are celebrating Bakugou's death and attacking people who are grieving it?
(also love your art style, you are so talented <3333333)
Ugh to give my opinion I would just say that most of these people are underage — but some of them are not.
It is embarrassing to see them paint people who were so connected to a character in media like they’re being over dramatic or like they shouldn’t need to grieve. I mean has anyone ever cared when someone cried in the theater watching Endgame? Or the beginning sequence in UP? What about this media and this character specifically seems to be so easy to hate on? I don’t understand at all why the people making suicidal jokes about Katsuki Stans or bkdk’ s think what they’re doing is in any way appropriate. It’s a mistreatment and a lack of empathy that I just can no longer tolerate. I got it when Cas and Dean died — both grieving their lives and the potential they had to change everything. I got it when people were happy to see TOH get canceled because of its top tier queer representation. And I see it now with something just as close to my heart — BNHA. I think the queer media scares them.
We’ve gotten so many things this year for bkdk. I mean honestly the past two years have been so bkdk heavy it’s almost been suffocating— I’ve never been this close with a manga before because it just never had what I was looking for. Empathy.
And the dudebros who like MHA can laugh all they want but this isn’t a typical shonen…it never was and the reason they’re even laughing is to cover up the relief they feel from saying bkdk is no longer possible at all. So it was possible in the first place to you?
Idk I try not to look at the convo much because I feel like I’ve been a little too involved with the negativity in the MHA fandom and I’m trying to stay away for a while. I really didn’t want to get so involved like I have been and I’ll try to be better in the future!
Also thank you so much @kacchaaaaannn ! I really appreciate this ask and I’m so glad you enjoy my art ❤️💕🥲🥲❤️
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ultfreakme · 5 months
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Can I ask for advice? I read your answers to ask, and it seems about random thing too (not just fandom characters)....So, I just got into JJK this year, and my friend is estatic (they were a fan for almost 3 years). They ship yuuta/maki, choso/yuki and gojo/utahime (I think the first 2 ships are cute and I don't mind either ships, too). But when I told them that I ship gojo/getou, they become defensive and told me, "but they're only bffs and it's only platonic relationships and bromance. It's not BL you know..." and I was iritated like, it's okay to ship what we like right? Do you think I should hide my love for this ship from my friend and preted only like het ships, too?
P.s Love your analysis on JJK (especially satosugu and itajun). Now I get more of the story, because of your blog. Thanks to you I also ship ItaJun 😄.
Also your answer to that anon (who loves BL /GL more than het romance), I kinda get their feeling. I'm so grateful to found your blog... Hope you have a wonderful day...
Absolutely not don't hide your love for satosugu! A ship doesn't have to be from the BL section to be mlm. Someone sent me an ask talking about how Blue Flag's end couple is two boys and it was published as a shonen manga.
I'm gonna be a bit of a bitch....and say well Gojo/utahime, Choso/Yuki, Yuuta/Maki can't be shipped because JJK is shonen, it's not romance or shojo. Also they're all bros and friends too! None of those couples said I love you, none of them kissed or really hung out all that much and none of these are canon(although tbh I would argue that based on subtext and a billion comments from anime production and creative staff it practically is) so......
Okay bitch moment over.
You're nice to your friend and their ships despite being ambivalent about one, they have to show the same courtesy to you. They don't have to start shipping it too but like it's just good friend behavior to be accepting. If it's a point of tension, it's best not to argue over it, or try to convince the other person of something. If your friend can't hear you out and dismisses you entirely, THEY are in the wrong, never you.
Also, I've often hid my own interests and loves in the past because my friends were super judgemental(like, "oh ew how could you like anime?" or "oh gross that's two boys/girls that doesn't work"). None of them stuck around me long and I wasn't happy being friends with them. I was miserable pretending to be something I'm not, even if it was something as silly as my interests.
Nowadays though, I do have friends who don't get shipping but they're respectful about it. End lesson; Don't ever change yourself, how you express yourself or your interests for another person. You are totally valid for liking the things you do and if others can't accept that, that's their problem. If they can't let this go or keep telling you to not talk about it or try to change your mind....well I hate to be extreme and this is worst case scenario, but, ditch em, there's better people out there who'd take you as you are.
Thank you so much!!! I love doing metas and analysis like it makes the experience so much richer and there's new depths to enjoy~~ glad you enjoy it!! This is super sweet <3<3 (\^_^/)
The BL/GL thing is so relatable and I think more recently, a pretty common experience for people in the anime/manga fandoms. I used to feel super alone with it but hopefully because of social media we can all feel a lot better in knowing we're not alone. When it comes to fiction, just do what's fun and makes you happy.
Have a nice day too anon!!!
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siflshonen · 2 years
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What was you first impression of bakugo? Is there specific scene in bnha that made you feel that bakugo's gonna be your favorite character?
I’ve mentioned this before in passing, but the best I can do is describe my first impression of Katsuki to be “Koi no yokan” - or “premonition of love” or even “love at second sight”.
A friend at a con introduced me to the MHA English dub anime because I asked - it was on the rise as the next big popular shonen - and they tried to sell me on it by virtue of Izuku’s qualities as a character. More fool they, because I took one look at Bakugo and knew I would love him. I even turned to them and said, near the end of the first episode when Katsuki is stomping away after ungratefully yelling at Izuku for trying to save him (and in the middle of them saying something about what they liked about Izuku and All Might’s relationship), “and what about this one? This sullen boy. Because I think… yes, he’s going to be my favorite.”
Even without the obvious signifiers of Katsuki’s delinquent status and speech, even without the obviously-highlighted “Baku” character of “Bakugo” in the introductory nameplate, even without the overt context of Izuku and Katsuki as labeled “childhood friends”, there was something about him that told me that the situation was… bigger than it seemed and he was only in the middle of it.
But I knew I loved him when he punched Izuku in the face in their exam versus All Might. I’ve never been a bully in the sense that Katsuki is for Izuku, but I empathize with someone who cannot communicate with someone they cannot escape, and feels like they have no other options available to them to move forward nor do they have any avenues to ask for help. When he hit Izuku I sensed very viscerally that he was really inflicting just as much upon himself.
I also knew I loved him when I stopped watching the anime (which I watched out of order - I skipped the first part of season 2 entirely at first because of what was available to me at the time!) or engaging with the manga and the fandom because of how fucking idiotic the western fandom was about Bakugo in particular, but promised myself, “I’ll come back for this one.” This was just after the end of season 3.
Skip forward a few years, and I saw the manga leaks of the last page of Chapter 285, and the impact of it made me so upset I felt physically ill for a week - not because I thought he was going to die, but because I wanted to throw something and tell everyone who still - or ever - thought Katsuki’s arc wasn’t overwhelmingly one of love for others and further complicated by the line of things in his control and ones that are systemic, or that it made no sense for him to save Izuku, that I was gonna rip out their heart and eat it.
I started the manga over from the beginning the very next week.
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Seeing a fellow KHR fan is always nice.
KHR has a special place to me. One of the first anime I bought any merch from, one of the first ones I obsessively learned the extra lore for.
KHR had one of the most relatable characters to 16 year old me. I couldn't relate to Tsuna's experiences per se, but I could relate to his reactions to them.
Before that, I never really experienced any characters who made the same sort of decisions I would have if I was somehow in the same position.
Anyway sorry for rambling, just wanted to let you know you made me feel quite validated responding to my addition on that post.
ヽ(・∀・)ノ
hi! thank you for the ask. 😊
yeah, it really is! it's so nice to see we're all still here, and still loving the manga/anime, and keeping the fandom alive even if there's not many of us anymore, and it's literally been years since both manga and anime finished.
oh mood, because khr is one of the first animes i watched and through which i discovered and got hooked on the animanga world. for me it's synonymous with my childhood, along other animangas like bleach and dragon ball z, and clearly, it's stuck with me and it doesn't seem like i'll grow out of it anytime soon lol.
i know right!! tsuna is really one of a kind as the main character of a shonen manga. maybe because the manga originally started as a gag manga, maybe because of something else, but he feels just so real as a teenager and a middle schooler. is so relatable. and it's really refreshing that he was just allowed to be a simple kid in middle school in all its averageness. and in all the less flattering sides of it too--the least flattering sides of it even. in all its loser-ness to say it like it is, without it ever putting in question the fact he still had value and worth as a person anyway. now of course in the manga it's held against him and he's punished for it, instead of him not being perfect at every part of life simply being an objective and neutral fact about him, but the whole message of tsuna as a character is to tell us "so what if he's bad at these arbitrary parts of life? he was still a good person deserving of respect and love, and capable of achieving things all along, and not in spite of his inadequacies, but because of them."
tsuna is literally just some guy who still finds it in himself to be extraordinary in the eyes of the people who need him to be, and i love him so much for that.
no problem! if anything, sorry for rambling a little too lol, but we just love tsuna a lot on this blog. <3 haha, i'm glad if it's the case!
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psychewritesbs · 5 months
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Also, I want to say, I'm quite surprised that your top fav animanga are X/1999, Tokyo Babylon, Jujutsu Kaisen and Sailor Moon... (At first I thought I was reading it wrong, but wow). Thanks so much, you just showed me that really there are 2 wolves inside all of us and it's really not weird to love opposite things.
Personally, I was shamed and even blocked when my group friends found out that eventhough I mainly love shounen animanga, I also love shipping 2 male characters from the same famous shounen and made fanfics about them. They said to "Just read BL manga/manhwa if you want to read mlm relationships so bad. It's not normal to see those male characters' dynamics as romantic when it's clearly all platonic.." So I kinda felt guilty about it, but now I'm learning to accept myself. Imagine my surprise when I found out you also kinda ship satosugu (you, who made such a fantastic analysis metas of anime/manga series).
Sorry for my rambling, again thank you for sharing your analysis and reviews on anime/manga (especially Jujutsu Kaisen)....
Giiiiiiiiiiirl (gender neutral)... lmao, how's this for owning the whole of my personality?
One of my favorite tv shows EVER is Downton Abbey. Downton Abbey is cheesy, the characters are insufferably self-righteous, and the entire show is basically rich Brits bemoaning their fate over tea in their grand estate.. and yet I LOVE it SO MUCH. The drama, the fashion, the romance I LOVE IT.
I just get SO much pleasure out of watching this show.
My taste in animanga is somewhat similar. I just watch stories that move me. I've been consuming animanga for a little over 25+ years ?? so why limit myself to one demographic when there's so many fantastic stories out there that transcend genres and demographics.
i.e. Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball were some of my very first anime, so they will always have a very special place in my heart. But I also love CLAMP's intense emotional depictions across any demographic they choose to write for just as much as I love Gege's super cerebral and absurd story-telling, y'kno?
But... I am so grateful you sent this because I feel like despite all of my analyses and the rambles I do for animanga, if there is one thing I want people to learn from me, it is to be true to yourself. Loving and accepting yourself is a journey, so take it one step at a time.
This is going to be very Sukuna of me, but... if something brings you pleasure and you're not hurting anyone, then it's none of anybody's business but yours. And if someone is coming at you because of what you like, that's their problem, not yours. It says more about them than it says about you.
Let that sink in!
It's good to reflect upon your self and what you love, but when someone comes at you hating on what you love, it says more about them than it says about you.
Also, I am sorry to hear about what happened to you. I can understand why shonen fandoms are so defensive of the male characters getting shipped. I don't mean to excuse anyone tho because it's annoying to hear someone say that your interpretation of what you're reading is wrong because they don't agree with it.
Like who tf is anyone to tell me how and what I should think about? And whom I should ship? And where I should go read about anything? Fudge off man.
Seriously. What's wrong with people?
And don't get me started with the whole fujoshi business because I will talk shit. I WILL TALK SHIT lmao.
Thanks for stopping by and for the kind comments! 😂
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