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hellhoundmaggie · 7 months
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what’s the SH pregnancy theory? See stuff mentioned about tabby wanting kids and being possibly forced to like date miners (THE WORKERS) for that reason due to Pearlanne? I’m confused
I don't know if there is a singular theory, but there is some weirdness involving Tabitha and pregnancy. Tabitha implies that she wants children but can't conceive in the car conversation in Episode 2. But even though she craved grandchildren, Pearlanne kept forcing Tabby to break up with anyone she dated "for too long." This seems counterproductive -- you'd think Pearlanne would want Tabby to stay paired up with some stud so she could get those grandbabies she wanted. Abby declined to explain why Pearlanne drove off Tabby's lovers in this AMA.
Now for what I think is going on:
The Scarlets made a covenant with some spooky supernatural beings that requires them to produce an heir who will continue to satisfy the terms of the bargain in each generation. The last heir before MC was Vivian, and she passed on the quality of heir to her only child. Pearlanne assumed the bloodline would continue through her instead, and either actively encouraged her daughter to date eligible miners or passively allowed her to do it so Tabby could produce the next generation. But Tabby is infertile because she is not the proper heir. Pearlanne couldn't admit that because she was so proud, so she kept blaming the miners for failing to knock up her daughter and would drive them away.
But MC is the only one who can continue the bloodline. MC will ultimately have to decide whether it's worth it to keep the Scarlet covenant and maintain Scarlet Hollow for another generation, or reject their assigned role and let the town die.
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morgloom · 9 months
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Ok, I know this is peak string and corkboard, but do these post-its on Stella's computer mean something?? We've got:
dark triangle with arrows pointing towards a light triangle
circled X with an arrow pointing towards a triangular prism
It's the arrows that are getting me. If it was just triangles and Xs with scribbles then it might be easier to write off as random doodles, but the arrows suggest some kind of intention with the images.
It's probably nothing...unless??
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void-writing · 1 year
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really enjoying episode 4 of Scarlet Hollow and i want to put together some miscellaneous thoughts about my experiences so far
Spoilers to follow, so I’ll put it under a cut :)
Sybil and the Cat
As much as it pains me, I do not trust Sybil. She was setting off so many alarms for me this chapter during the tea meeting. Like, she has fucking castor beans in her tea room--which if you picked the Book Smart trait are revealed to be full of ricin aka: one of the deadliest poisons ever that was used by KGB to carry out stealth assassinations because you only need a tiny dose for it to be lethal and there is no antidote. And when we see it again in the clinic’s medicine room, we recognize it but somehow we can’t remember where we saw it even though we were just at Sybil’s tea room and when we ask Dr. Kelly how she settled on using ricin to subdue Reese’s...condition...we mysteriously don’t hear who Dr. Kelly went to for it. I 100% believe that Kelly got it from Sybil because she claimed she had an “errand” to run on Main Street (aka, where the General Store is) when Reese distracted her.
Also, Sybil is definitely doing something to Kaneeka. There is something in that tea that makes her more subjective to Sybil’s influence because when we came into the General Store, Kaneeka went to her room way too easily, and there’s a scene where we manage to get Kaneeka out of her room to come with us to the clinic, but Sybil stops us and insists Kaneeka isn’t well despite her momentary insistence to the contrary. And then...she just changes her mind and we have to go alone. And if you picked the Mystical trait, you specifically note that something is encroaching on your mind and trying to make you agree with Sybil that Kaneeka should rest.
And I haven’t even touched on the tea reading itself because something I find highly suspicious is the notion of the “cat” figure, the “hidden enemy.” There’s an option to pose the question that Sybil is the cat but it’s immediately shot down. You don’t even voice it. It just tells you “there’s no way Sybil is the cat. She’s helping you. Why would she warn you about the cat if she’s the cat. Pick someone else.” Also, the time I picked Tabitha as my suspect, Sybil was strangely insistent on encouraging that conjecture. It’s like she’s trying to subtly drive a wedge between us and Tabitha, which makes me concerned because Tabitha at least seems to value Sybil’s council and got some mysterious “tea” from her in episode 3 (which I think is either for the Scarlet’s mysterious prisoner or for us, and I’m fairly sure that it’s meant to subdue whoever drinks it somehow). Plus, I think it would be a classic fake out if Sybil is this hidden enemy because even without the tea forcing us to not suspect Sybil, it’s a lot like how in murder mystery shows, sometimes the one who reports the crime is the one who committed it in order to throw suspicion off them. Because why would they raise the alarm if they were the culprit?
And honestly, her tea reading itself is kind of sus too. If you have Mystical as a trait, you can ask to see the tea leaves yourself and...it’s just kind of a mess of leaf shreds. Sybil claims that tea reading is something that takes years to learn, but I’d think that with the Mystical trait, we’d be able to pick up something. But nothing flags and we hand it back. Plus, the reading doesn’t...tell us anything new aside from this “hidden enemy.” It’s supposedly just a mess of omens of ill fortune and doom. Which we already know from the Ditchlings. And it doesn’t point us to any useful direction. Other than the clinic and seeking out more of the carvings. She says it’s to arm yourself with knowledge (and honestly, I do find that to be a kernel of sound advice) but we don’t know much about the carvings aside from 1) only Scarlets feel the pull and see visions from them, usually of some dark secret truth, 2) people keep dying near or even on them, 3) a Witch told Charles Shaw Junior to seek them out for currently unknown reasons, only to get whammied by Eddie--who seemingly was in some kind of involuntary trance--as soon as he finds it, 4) we keep passing out and having seizures when we see them for the first time, and 5) something bad happens whenever we see them the first time (the mine collapsed, Charles Junior’s whole puppet show, Reese...). It feels like we’re being...primed for something. Prepared. And it feels like we’re being prepared as a sacrificial offering somehow to strengthen whatever curse/mystic whatever that has its hold on the town.
We get some backstory from Sybil about both herself and our mother, but Sybil was vague about herself. She only mentioned that her family has been in the Holler for as long--if not longer--than the Scarlets. So, maybe she’s a descendant of The Witch from Charlie’s haunting. The one that likely has “ulterior motives” according to the Mystic Trait. Sybil also seems quite insistent on downplaying the extent of her power and knowledge and denying being a witch when asked. All in all, Sybil seems very insistent on pushing the “innocent old lady” image. She also dropped some Scarlet lore too. Apparently our maternal grandmother died in childbirth due to being too young to be giving birth, let alone birthing twins. All the husbands after Edwardine’s time are still unknown, Sybil writing them off as flings or just not being terribly remarkable. I’ll talk more on my thoughts about this later.
In summary, Sybil is sus. I think she knows more than she’s letting on. She’s doing something to Kaneeka (Miles also looked pissed for some reason during the scene where Sybil stops us from taking Kaneeka with us to the clinic. Whether his rage is on Kaneeka’s behalf or directed at Kaneeka, I don’t know) and was almost certainly the one supplying Dr. Kelly with castor beans. There was something in that tea that we drank that makes us less suspicious of Sybil (maybe it’s part of the “preparation” I’m theorizing is going on. After all, we were given the same tea when we first arrived in Scarlet Hollow...). I think she’s trying to throw suspicion off of herself by warning us about the “hidden enemy” herself. Tabitha trusts her but tried to subtly drive us to suspect Tabitha of being an enemy.
Reese and Doctor Kelly
First of all, Dr. Kelly definitely likes kids better than...most people. If you don’t have the Keen Eye trait, Rosalina loses a leg and when we go to visit Oscar to check in and see if he’s seen Stella, Dr. Kelly is there giving Rosalina shots and checking up on her. During this, Dr. Kelly is downright kind and gentle until she notices us and she turns into the Ice Queen Doc that we saw last episode. Oscar told Dr. Kelly everything that happened the night before and she...seems to believe him, but if we try to warn her about the carving in the clinic and ask to see it, she gets defensive rather than dismissive.
Reese might be an Anti-Christ. I mean...the biggest reason I think that is that Dr. Kelly was having “romantic” sleep paralysis dreams for months and suddenly got pregnant despite not seeing anyone romantically. There’s also the fact that Reese has a downright supernatural healing factor, which is definitely how he’s survived consuming regular doses of one of the most deadly poisons on Earth (and also getting shot by Tabitha if you call her) and why he seems...strangely fixated and enthused by the idea of human suffering and cosmic horror. Like...those on their own are fine. I get it. It’s fascinating to explore in art and media, but...Reese seemed to be talking about people experiencing it in real life during the build up to his transformation. Idk. During that, it didn’t feel like he was talking about the horror movie that was on.
Reese has encountered Wayne before. He didn’t know his name, so he didn’t make the connection to Wayne as our stalker until we name him. Wayne knows that Reese is something other and dangerous, but didn’t know what until the fight broke out. I want to talk more about Wayne, but I’ll leave that for later. Also, Reese was absolutely convinced that Wayne hated him and meant to hurt him (I mean...I don’t think he was necessarily wrong in that tbh).
Dr. Kelly has been prepping for the eventuality that Reese will no longer listen to her and take his “medicine.” There’s an outcome where Reese gets locked away in Dr. Kelly’s safe room (which is the outcome I favored most since I don’t want to kill Reese but I also don’t want to let him kill Dr. Kelly). And the ricin was actually Dr. Kelly’s second option. She switched to it when she had to stop ordering official meds because what she was ordering was poisonous and people would get suspicious. Also, what she was giving Reese wasn’t working anymore anyway. His body adapted. So I think the poison was meant to keep Reese’s powers busy. If they’re focused on healing the damage the ricin does, then he won’t have enough to spare to Hulk out. And even the ricin seemed to be losing effect too because it only took a couple hours for Reese’s powers to rebound (he did carry us from the carving, up and down several flights of stairs despite being a walking skeleton, which is sus on its own but extra sus if you have the Powerful Build trait, which makes you even heavier. I think).
Reese can turn his paintings into minions. With the Mystical Trait, you’re able to sense in episode 3 that something dark lingers in those paintings in a much more literal sense and Reese talks about feelings building up within him that he releaves by putting them into the paintings. Guess it was a lot more literal than we thought.
Reese also got...strangely defensive of us when Wayne shows up. I haven’t done anything to support or oppose him yet, but I do find it a bit odd. I mean, he’d only met us for like an hour tops the day before. Maybe it was just because we were there and depending on how the medicine room goes (and what traits you picked), we alerted him to the Doc’s “true” intentions with him and his “medicine.” But he doesn’t seem to exhibit the same feelings towards his life-long friends. Not that they came up during the whole *gestures vaguely* but I’d think that if he was feeling so under threat that he’d mention, even off-handedly, staying with Kaneeka or Stella. I don’t quite know what to make of it yet, but it felt odd to me.
Dr. Kelly was also looking over death records of Scarlets in her office. We have the option to snoop at them (which I’ve always taken so far because I love me some lore) and we get some...interesting bits of info. That, I’ll talk more on later, but I find it interesting that she’s looking at those especially since in episode 3, Dr. Kelly mentioned that Scarlets seem to be...averse to hospital and doctor visits. I wonder what she was looking for in those.
The Carvings
There’s a chance of being able to examine the second carving (which I will be calling the Goat carving for simplicity’s sake) if Rosalina didn’t lose a leg and we placate Charlie’s spirit. If you have Book Smart, you notice that the carving’s style is Greeco-Roman, the weathering points to it being from a temple, and that the carving from the mine (which will henceforth be called the Chain carving) were made by the same artist and likely came from the same place.
They seem to lose their magnetism on us after we encounter them the first time.
The carvings also seem to be in sites of death. The Chain carving was in the depths of the condemned Shaw Mine where miner’s died due to rotted beams (and if you have the Mystic trait, you get extra scenes from these carvings. In the Chain carving, you see an argument between Charles Shaw Senior and Enoch Scarlet, where Charles Senior confronts Enoch about using subpar wood in the mines and Enoch writes him off. I don’t remember if you get an extra scene in the Goat carving, but the third one also gives us a vision of Enoch doing something dubious. So it seems that whatever’s going on in the Holler might have started with him). Charles Shaw Junior freaking died on one, murdered by a Scarlet. And the third one was in a “clean air” clinic that was turned into a proper doctor’s office after the mine collapse to treat the survivors. And I doubt all of them survived.
And the third one...I’m calling it the Chimera carving because there was...a lot going on visually in that one, we see an injured man in a hospital bed, presumably Theodore Scarlet, Enoch’s brother and our great uncle who supposedly died in the Shaw mine collapse. Enoch assures Theodore(?), who says the doctors told him he’ll never walk again, that he’s sorted this out by talking to The Witch. Theodore doesn’t seem to know who Enoch is talking about, responding with “A...witch?” rather than “The Witch” like Enoch. I’m guessing she’s the same Witch from Charles Junior’s memories, but Enoch claims that Theodore doesn’t have to worry about his legs or anything again and that he’ll be taking him home by the end of the week. If you have the Mystic trait, you get an extra scene of Enoch in the doctor’s office, telling the doctor that the man claiming to be Theodore isn’t his brother and insisting that he died in the mine collapse. I’m not sure who Enoch was lying to, but I think it was most likely that Enoch lied to the doctor and declared Theodore dead when he wasn’t and then hiding him in the estate. Though, I think it would have been just as likely that Enoch killed this guy.
The symbolism of the carvings to me points to the themes of cycles and sacrifice. The arms circled in chains, each swinging some kind of improvised chain flail(?). The goat’s head, surrounded by three wolves (and the fact that the Shaws had a lot of goat symbolism during Charlie’s haunting. Possibly pointing to how the Shaws were scapegoats for the Scarlets and potentially a sacrificial goat as well). The Chimera carving involves seven (mostly) alternating figures or humanoids and animals, all bound together by a long, tangled snake. The animals are a lion, a goat, a sheep, and possibly either a cow or a pig (I can’t tell). The humanoids all have something fantastical about them. One man has a crown and long ears (kind of gives me Midas vibes with his scepter and almost donkey-like ears), the man opposite to him has horns and similarly pointed ears, and the last figure is fairly ambiguous gender-wise and has no visible ears (they actually look fairly normal, but something about their appearance feels fae-like to me for some reason) but the snake’s head is hovering over their shoulder, its tongue flicking out. The goat and pig or cow remind me of a Roman suovetaurila, a very important type of sacrifice, usually made to Mars (one of their gods of war) to bless and purify land. There’s two types, but the biggest and most important involves a goat, which we’ve seen three times in the story so far, so I’m more keen on referencing that one (...though now that I think of it, “ram” also could mean a male sheep, which is more likely considering the word “suovetaurilia is literally the Latin words for pig, sheep, and bull smushed together). I don’t know, this one is less clear symbolically, but we might not have enough info yet.
Scarlet Lore
So, we get a fairly hefty amount of Scarlet lore this chapter. And Alexandra’s doll moves! Of course, if you picked Keen Eye, you pick up on a bloody, pussy residue that we’ve come to associate with Wayne, so someone’s been rooting through the closet in our absence. Creepy.
Tabitha brought a goat into the greenhouse for some reason. Again, I’m thinking for sacrificial purposes, but even with Talk with Animals, the goat (creatively named “Goat”) doesn’t know much either. So, a mystery for another day, I guess.
Our mother, Vivian apparently was terrified over being pregnant according to Sybil (who I am still sus of and will be taking everything see says with a Dead Sea’s worth of salt from now on). Understandable fear given that we were apparently conceived out of wedlock with a still unknown father and Vivian’s mother--our grandmother--died in childbirth. But I don’t know. There’s definitely more to this. Maybe Vivian knew that we’d be destined for something horrible and left the Holler with us to try and prevent it? Not enough info yet, but I’m definitely keeping that in the back of my mind. God. What if Vivian got pregnant the same way Dr. Kelly did? I mean, we have the option to have some legit magic powers (the Talk with Animals and Mystic traits), and since Edwardine, the paternal lineage of the Scarlets has been strangely obscured and surprisingly matriarchal. If I’m remembering right, every descendant of the Scarlets since Edwardine--Enoch’s daughter--has been female, which is an interesting coincidence that--for me, at least--would be quite innocent in any other setting. Fuck. What if this is a Hell Bride situation? Like, Enoch promised a female Scarlet to some otherworldly force through the Witch in exchange for bettering Theodore’s condition (if Enoch actually cared for his brother) or to ensure that the Scarlet family continues to hold power over the Holler and everyone in it (and maybe that’s why no one seems to be able to leave. At least...not for long anyway).
We have an opportunity during our journey into the clinic’s morgue to see Pearlanne herself and...uh...she’s definitely a dead body. Though, I don’t think she’s been embalmed. I’m not an expert in funerary practices and I know embalming isn’t everyone’s preference but it does seem to be the standard and I find it...odd that it doesn’t seem like her body’s been embalmed at all with her funeral in three days. I don’t know. I’m just highly suspicious of literally everything right now.
We get to see some death records and they have some interesting tidbits in them.
Enoch and Alexandra (Edwardine’s first daughter) both died on the exact same day. Well. Enoch died for sure. Due to a supposed “hiking accident” where he fell off a cliff. Alexandra, meanwhile, just straight up vanished and was declared dead by Edwardine. While I have no idea what could have been up with Alexandra disappearing, I definitely think Edwardine murdered Enoch as retribution for whatever mystic forces he tampered with that compelled her to murder Charlie. After all, Charlie did specifically mention that whatever was going on with those carvings, Enoch was responsible.
Edwardine’s child with Charlie was supposedly stillborn. A boy, named Andrew Charles (kind of sweet of Edwardine to give the boy his father’s name for a middle name). There was no doctor and it was a home birth, so we only have Edwardine’s word to go on. I definitely think there was more to this. What, I don’t know yet.
Theodore, our great uncle who died in the Shaw mine (supposedly), was declared dead by Enoch, his younger brother, who fully took over the mines after he died. Supposedly. Is it possible Enoch murdered his brother to take the mine and estate and town for himself? I wouldn’t rule it out yet, but Enoch is hella sus.
Edwardine had two brothers who died in Normandy during WWII, each within a day of each other. We kind of already knew that from episode 3, but the confirmation of death records is interesting.
Edwardine is probably the longest living Scarlet in...a long time, and possibly ever. She lived to be almost 90. Pearlanne was second longest-living and both seem to have passed from old people illnesses (sleep apnea and heart disease).
Edwardine raised Pearlanne and Vivian in place of her daughter, Mary-Belle (the woman who’s portrait hangs in our room. Actually, I think we’re in her room, so she has her missing, probably dead sister’s doll in her closet...). And according to Sybil, our mother was something of an emotional punching bag for the rest of the family.
As far as I remember right now, only Edwardine and Pearlanne lived past thirty.
Enoch made some kind of deal, either for his own benefit or for the sake of his brother. Don’t know which yet, if these are even the only two options. Enoch seems like a very two-faced, self-serving bastard to me so far, but we’ll see.
Wayne
Oh boy...if I didn’t think he was something supernatural before, I do now. Not even counting that Wayne knew Reese was something eldritch and other, he fought Reese and managed to repeatedly find his way into places taken over by entities trying to keep him out. Also, there’s something about his yellow pus-goo that harmed Reese on contact. I want to know so badly what Wayne is. My current tentative theory is that if Reese is something demonic, what if Wayne is something angelic? If Wayne’s the one that pulls everyone out of Charlie’s haunting, Sybil hints that us bending to Charlie’s demands would “go against everything he is.” A curious phrase, for sure. Sybil seems to be convinced that Wayne is harmless, though again, I’m suspicious of Sybil, but Wayne seems to be acting as like...a musty, spooky guardian angel. So far, he’s been nothing but helpful to us, if not blatantly protective.
We actually saw quite a bit of Wayne this episode. He followed us to the Church and I saw him lurking by the clinic as we approached it. To my knowledge, this is the first time we see Wayne watching us from afar since episode 2 if we stayed at the Estate following the events of episode 1.
Most importantly, if we don’t decide to pursue the romantic subplot with Stella, Wayne walks us back to the estate and we get the opportunity to ask him some questions. Naturally, he’s vague about a lot of things, but he’s following us specifically because “[we’re] special” and when we ask why he answers “you just are.” Annoying, but mildly informative in the sense that there is something inherent to us specifically that is unique, even amongst our kin, limited though they are. Wayne also says that we’re bonded to him in some way. He doesn’t elaborate, but he does imply that he will stand by us for...whatever’s coming.
This mysterious “bond” is a bit suspect to me and I’m curious about what that exactly means (personally, I hope it’s not romantic...).
He also encourages us to snoop around the estate when Tabitha is out and busy with the strike. He might want us to find something there. Perhaps the mysterious imprisoned entity? Perhaps something else.
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the-all-seeing-l · 1 year
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any scarlet hollow theories on the doll in the bedroom closet that keeps on mysteriously moving? 👀 i really hate that thing but i hate that we can’t move it somewhere else!
Spoilers for Scarlet Hollow episodes 1-4
Sorry for the late reply; was busy + had to do some research for this to avoid spewing nonsense (no guarantee though).
I don't think the doll is haunted or able to move on its own since it doesn't move in the first 3 episodes (Keen Eye confirms this).
Episode 1:
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The first time it has actually moved is if you check in on it at the start of episode 4, because someone was in the closet.
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I actually think the creepy doll is supposed to distract you from that very concerning fact. Keen Eye also tells you who went through the closet:
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So what did he want in there?
I think instead of the doll, we should be focusing on the documents (riveting, I know). It always bugged me that we were never able to at least sift through them, not even with Book Smart. Despite being a huge messy, I don't think Tabitha would leave something actually important in there; that would just be stupid with how careful she's being otherwise. So if Wayne was looking for something in there, he probably didn't find anything. I would be surprised if he actually thought he would though. So what about this: Considering it was him that suggested to explore the estate in the next episode, what if he planted something there for us to find? Maybe even something that would incriminate Tabitha without context. She's definitely hiding something big, but she's also not the villain Sybil is trying to make her out to be (by implying she's "the cat" and all that). Because of the idea of Tabitha being the Big Bad already being pushed on us in episode 4, it would make sense for that to continue in episode 5, until it culminates in the player character finding something really bad in the estate (though I don't think some incriminating documents will be all; I believe it's pretty plausible that we're actually going to find the Entity) and her finally having to talk to us. If it's not too late by then, that is. Because if we find the Entity, it's definitely going to try and manipulate us like it did with Charlie. I think the climax of episode 5 will revolve around whether we trust the Entity and/ or Sybil or Tabitha. If not episode 5 then episode 6 or 7 for sure. That's just a theory though - a gaME TH- Sorry, I'll shut up now. Obviously I don't have any proof for all that apart from it making sense narrative-wise.
Why would Wayne want to incriminate Tabitha though, you ask? Good question; he did seem at least somewhat sympathetic towards her if you brought her along on the ghost hunt after all. He definitely wants us to trust him though, and he's trying to make us stop relying on Stella. His arguments for this make some sense, but Stella also did get an ambulance when the mine collapsed in episode 2 which was helpful if Rosalina got hurt (though the player character could accuse her of running away even back then). I think Wayne is trying to weaken our trust in everyone else enough that we end up relying solely on him so he can use us for whatever it is he's trying to achieve. If you look at it that way, it would make sense for him to try and make Tabitha look suspicious (though she's already doing a pretty good job at that herself). What his motives are and where or if they intersect with Sybil's, the Entity's and Tabby's, I don't know. I am pretty sure he's not the actual Sam Wayne though, as I explained in my main theory post (https://www.tumblr.com/the-all-seeing-l/710559451068973056).
I know this isn't really what you asked for, but I have no self-control and I think it's better than my initial "The doll's not haunted, bye."?
One interesting thing about the doll itself is that it belonged to Alexandra Scarlet, Edwardine's other daughter aside from Mary-Belle. If you read the Coroner's Reports in episode 4, you learn that she went missing at the age of 9 and is presumed dead. Suspiciously enough, she went missing on the same day Enoch died in a "hiking accident". Maybe it had something to do with the same thing Pastor Daniel's daughter Tulip found in the woods, considering Enoch presumably fell off a cliff there (just like Reese) and Alexandra should have been around the same age as Tulip back then... Ok, I lied! This isn't about the doll at all anymore. It's also blind speculation, so I'll really shut up now. I'm flattered you'd ask me for my thoughts though, and I hope this was somewhat interesting and/ or helpful.
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tytoalba-28 · 1 year
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Okay spoilers for episode four of Scarlet Hollow.
I do not trust Sybil man. She was with me in the ghost situation and I thought her trying to 'punish' Tabitha was very interesting.
But after the tea with her I went to visit Kaneeka and she stopped me from taking her to go to the clinic. I have keen eye and street smart and the little prompts for them were super suspicious. Like Sybil was influencing my thoughts so my traits were being tricked by her because they were odd prompts for those traits. I think she might be the 'cat' she warned me about tbh.
But what a fun chapter, I feel bad for my choice with keeping Reese locked up but I didn't trust him in the beginning tbh. I don't think he's bad but yeah maybe his Mom isn't so bad either. And that tabitha save and the Wayne walk home was so great too. And the morning chat with Avery was great as well. I'm surprised no one ended up dead in this one!! I've only killed Duke in my main play through.
Can't wait to replay it with my talk to animals trait and that dog scene, dang.
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zaffrestars · 1 year
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I have another scarlet hollow theory that's a little more wild to me.
I think Tabitha, or the Scarlet family in general, is a wampus cat.
This one is a total shot in the dark, but I have a couple ideas to back it up:
The entry for wampus cats in the library talks about how they are often used as a warning for those who are going against tradition... that sounds a lot like the scarlet family history.
In the first episode, if you choose to go back to the manor instead of staying at Stella's, Tabitha might mention you smell like old dog and the woods. Old dog? That seems oddly specific. And it's not the only time she mentions somthing like that, if you choose to hang out with her in episode three and ask about Reese, she mentions he always had a weird smell to him. The only other character that I know of who mentions Reese smelling odd is Gretchen herself if you have talk to animals. This feels like Tabitha has a heightened sense of smell.
The biggest piece of evidence for this theory I can think of is Sybil.
During teatime, if you let her do a leaf reading, she discusses your many doomed omens. Including the cat. She's pretty insistent it's Tabitha, any character you select otherwise she argues against. But if you select Tabitha, she'll agree that you can't trust your cousin. Maybe the cat is only metaphorical like she says, but it could easily have double meaning if Tabitha is a wampus cat.
Theres a couple of smaller things too. If you have street smart, you can sneak into the forbidden wings in episode one. There you can find a family tree painted on the wall. It mentions there's dark scratches over your mother's place, those could be claw marks. Maybe from Pearlanne when her sister left.
Another thing, during teatime with Sybil she can tell you your mother was terrified to find out she was pregnant. Now, this is just pure speculation since it could just be the other scarlet family curses™️ but what if she was scared of passing down the wampus cat? She said it was out of wedlock and she assumed the fear had something to do with religion, but if the wampus cat curse activates when someone in the Scarlet line goes against tradition (or whatever the head of the Scarlet family wants) then perhaps that's what she was so afraid of.
It's also mentioned that Tabitha wants children, but it's portrayed like she will have a difficult time. There's not enough context to tell you why exactly, but I think it's an important parallel.
Theres also... whatever Tabitha is doing with that goat in the greenhouse. If you have talk to animals, Dustin may direct you to try and kick the goat out of his mom's house, and talking to the goat leads him to tell you that Tabitha is the one who put him in there. Or at least, someone blond. And he's fed herbs from Sybil. Maybe he's a sacrifice? I haven't been able to get the goat out of the greenhouse, maybe in episode five. No matter what though, Sybil and Tabitha have something magic going on. Maybe she's helping Tabitha control the wampus cat.
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dabihawksluvr · 1 year
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.: My Current Theory(s) :.
I've only played this game for around a couple days, but I've also been hunting down theories outside of it...and hoo boy, my hunches for most things going on make me so excited to see what happens next. I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing these things, and I will definitely try to use other traits (I main Street Smarts and Mystic in my canon playthrough) to see if I can get other stuff to pop up.
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But for now, I'm gonna talk about my own playthrough and my theories for events after Chapter Four.
(+) I didn't like my cousin at first, honestly she weirded me out and I fully believe she's part of everything going on..but I can tell she's not entirely 'bad', she's probably just stuck doing these things and feels she simply can't leave. And I do like that she doesn't want us causing trouble, I do believe she cares but isn't trying to get too close (for reasons). I even protected her during the psychedelic ghost 'vision', giving up years of my life in her place. I hope I can get closer to her in future chapters, even if she betrays me I'd still not entirely be angry about it.
(+) Sybil is definitely sus. I kept on feeling there was something about her, I mean she knows about Ditchlings and doesn't seemed scared in the least by anything going on. But when she did the tea reading...I got the ability to actually push past my option to suspect her being the 'cat' being flipped on me. So my fears were correct, she definitely knows what's going on. And may be even the mastermind behind it all. I wouldn't be surprised in the least at this point, especially after she literally stood in a doorframe and had shadows on her the entire time. So I'm gonna be watching out for her.
(+) I hope that the church is important soon, I do wanna see the mysteries behind that place and Tetanus Lake. I bet the 'rats' are either Ditchlings, or possibly even ghosts of those who died in that lake...and I bet we'll have to jump in. Possibly to find another one of those symbols/seals buried underneath. And I'm actually starting to like the priest, I don't think he's a bad guy and is simply just trying too hard to be liked...though a part of me hopes I'm wrong. If I'm wrong, I want it to be revealed that the priest is actually running a cult of some kind. Because those little tidbits throughout the story are driving me up a wall.
(+) I didn't save the doctor in my canon playthrough, so I hope that doesn't screw me over in the future...but it probably will. I'll probably get bad metal poisoning and all that from the lake, and there'd be no doctor to help with that. I just hope Reese comes back...I'm trying to romance him, I just want my monster boy to cuddle me as I deal with this hellscape of a town.
(+) I think Reese is most definitely NOT human. He's most close to an Incubus, at least with how he was conceived...but he's also similar to a Vampire and/or Werewolf, I mean he can shapeshift and even has a tail. Maybe he could also be part Ditchling...I wouldn't be surprised if he was, considering. I just hope that I won't have to face him possibly going into a hunger frenzy at some point, and I hope he doesn't get a hunger for humans after chomping down on his own mom. But, I'm also not against helping him with that...*grabs axe*
(+) Stella NEEDS to be found. And soon. I hope she really isn't a part of everything going on, but after she just up and left I'm not leaving out any reasoning. Even asking Wayne about her didn't get me anywhere, but tbh that whole thing after Reese I'm far less wary of him now than before. I mean, the guy wants me to leave the town...so he is definitely on my side, even if he did try to hurt Reese I'll still try trusting him more. He may be the only lifeline I'll have to save myself in the future.
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minotaurmutual · 5 days
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The future is a benevolent black hole.
Sagittarius A* / Kathy Acker, Pussy, King of the Pirates / Outer Wilds (2020) / Is There a God-Shaped Hole at the Heart of Mathematics? / Drain for overflowing water at Sambuco Dam, Lavizzara Valley / ? / Thomasin Frances, Hole Theory (15/10/2022) / Bryan’s Ground, a public garden in Herefordshire on the Welsh border. / odd, weird, strange and unusual / Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves / Evil (2019-2014) / Judas H., Overflowing With Empty / Illustration of the Annular Eclipse of 1836 from “A fourteen weeks course in descriptive astronomy”, Joel Dorman Steele (1836-1886) / @imdad_barbhuyan on Instagram / The moon’s Copernicus crater. Through magic glasses. 1890. / Kaveh Akbar / Dune (2021) / Yousif M. Qasmiyeh, The Camp is a Bait for Time / Darina Muravjeva, Hole / Hilde Heynen in Heterotopia and the City / x / Leonard Cohen, Beautiful Losers / x /  Louise Glück, from Descending Figure / Anne Carson, Eros the Bittersweet: An Essay. / Caitlyn Siehl, What We Buried; from “A Letter To Love” / Lara de Moor, Orb (2014) / Sam Sax, Pig / The National - Wake Up Your Saints / Aleksander Rostov / Sanna Wani, from “Princess Mononoke (1997)”, My Grief, the Sun / Gregory Orr, [i want to go back] / Thomas Ott / ? / Judas H., Overflowing With Empty / James Baldwin, Giovanni’s Room / Massive sinkhole swallows house in Florida / Edna St Vincent Millay, in Letters (1952) /Silent Hill 4 (2004) / @/vren-diagram / Anne Boyer, What Resembles the Grave But Isn’t / Law of Holes / Scarlet Hollow (2021) / Lucy Dacus - Cartwheel
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honeyfizzly · 5 months
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What I personally think is going down with kaneeka and sybil is that it's gonna act as a foil to reese and his mom. Instead of a mother trying to repress a child's monstrous nature, it's an mother trying to harness and control it.
There's already alot of moth/metaphoris and magical girl imagery asscioated with kaneeka so it's clear something is going to be happening with her soon and I feel like it's probably that kaneeka is a witch (or something magical. Maybe she's a moth magical girl idk lol) and sybil is trying to both bring out and control those magical abilities using the tea.
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hellhoundmaggie · 6 months
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working on a big Scarlet Hollow theorypost
Topics I expect to touch on:
Biblically-accurate angels
Peter Binsfeld’s Classification of Demons (1589)
The Scarlet family tree
Fractal networks with anime eyes
The Book of Enoch
Reese‘s weird smell
Scarlet Hollow as a queer game
An item available for purchase at Abby Howard’s Topatoco page
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morgloom · 1 year
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HOLD THE PHONE I think I realized something about Tabby's office. I always wondered what this little crystal ball looking thing was on the filing cabinets:
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and realized it looks kinda like these snow globe type things in the model home:
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I wonder if she stole one from the house to bring a piece of her "vacation home" with her
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bee-turtle-kind · 1 year
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Scarlet Hollow characters I DO trust with my life and love: the demon stalking you, your cousin everyone hates who has likely committed murder, the abomination of changing flesh and bones that hangs out in the morgue, the possums in my drawer
Scarlet Hollow characters I DO NOT TRUST and never will: sybil. fucking. Local Town Grandma
(Also accurate small town representation)
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the-all-seeing-l · 2 years
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Theory: The Witch's Identity (+ general theories about the story)
Heavy spoilers for everything up until episode 4, you've been warned.
It's Sybil.
Ok, so this one's fairly obvious, but since I haven't seen anyone talk about it yet, I thought I'd put it out there.
First off, 'The Witch' refers to the person Kaneeka was representing in the ghost sequence in episode 3, since that's what the mysterious figure locked away in the estate portrayed by Avery calls her. If you have the Book Smart trait equipped, you can also note the following about the environment in her scene:
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Tabitha waves this off pretty quickly, which may or may not be because she's working with Sybil (remember: Tabitha was buying tea at Sybil's store in episode 2 even though she stated in the first episode that she orders all her food online, went alone with her to the backroom, not letting us tag along, and Sybil was the one she called when trapped in the ghost's domain).
The track that plays during her scene is also called 'The Witch' on the OST.
The importance of the Witch's character is emphasized during the ghost sequence. She, alongside the mysterious person locked away inside the manor, is the only person whose identity we don't know.
There are two instances in which you can ask Tabitha about who she thinks the Witch might be. If you ask her the first chance you get, she seems genuinely interested in finding out her identity. If you wait until the second time, she waves it off as her just being an old person long gone and therefore unimportant. She might have figured out it was Sybil by then (therefore trying to hide her identity due to their alliance), since she also calls her 'her' and 'lady', even though we can't technically know the Witch's gender at that point, since she isn't referred to by anyone until later, and Alexis played the part of a person of the opposite gender, so the stand-ins are no absolute way to tell the gender of the person portrayed. Tabitha might have just been assuming she was female because of gendered speech patterns though.
It's also explicitly stated that the Witch is not to be trusted:
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(You can say this with the Street Smart trait.)
Kaneeka stating she felt powerful when asked about what it felt like being possessed while everyone else (besides, again, Avery) felt angry, sad or scared also suggests that she's the odd one out.
That out of the way, everyone probaby got a little weary of Sybil by the end of episode 3, when she was able to free the possessed people from the ghost's influence and seemed to have a little too much experience in the area, then continued on to persistently wave off any questions.
There's a lot of evidence linking Sybil to the Witch. This is what I've been able to gather on my two playthroughs of the game (one with Street Smart/ Keen Eye, one with Talk to Animals/ Book Smart):
The posture:
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Sybil's theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMzod_KsIt0 The Witch's theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J36T1BUA9Y0 If you listen to them back to back, the Witch's theme sounds like a slower, warped version of Sybil's.
The Witch is portrayed by Sybil's daughter. The ghost seemed to assign the people it possessed the roles that would fit them most. The best example for this is Oscar, the only parent in the group, who also played the part of Charlie's father (you can even point that out during his scene).
The Witch and Sybil both frequently address people as 'dear'. As I mentioned before, Tabitha comments that the Witch seems to be an old person, judging by the way she talks. I know Sybil technically shouldn't have been alive back then, and she looks fairly young in the family portrait in the tea room (you can see it at the end of episode 1), but if she really is a witch, she might be capable of anything. There's of course also the possibility that Sybil is just a descendant of the Witch, but because of the incredibly similar mannerisms, I'm going with it being the same person for now.
If you hang out with Kaneeka on Wednesday and ask her what the deal with her mother and tea is, this is what she says:
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Kaneeka also mentions that she's been feeling sick, and that she hasn't been able to rest properly because of the tea Sybil gave her before bed (she suspects it to have been caffeinated).
Since she describes it as tasty, it can't be the same blend as the one you are offered in episode 2 at the diner with Avery, which is said to taste horrible.
My suspicion here is that Sybil has been making Kaneeka sick on purpose to keep her from getting involved in the supernatural, since she mentions Kaneeka's illness multiple times at the end of episode 3 and was being very adamant about taking her home as quickly as possible.
Her trying to keep Kaneeka away from the supernatural would also explain why Kaneeka is so sceptical, even though she was raised by Sybil who seems pretty spiritual.
The weird thing about this is that Sybil wouldn't let Kaneeka leave Scarlet Hollow after she came back from college to help her out when her husband died. This could be explained by people not being able to leave once the supernatural stuff sets in, since the Witch mentions this during her scene:
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This is what Tabby has to say about the matter:
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It might be that things had already started once Kaneeka arrived (though it's pretty unlikely, since that was over a year ago), but that still doesn't explain why Sybil didn't try to keep her away in the first place (or why she had children at all). Maybe there is some part Sybil has Kaneeka play in all of this after all. We'll see whether or not we can leave Scarlet Hollow in episode 4, since there is an option to make plans with Kaneeka to leave town on Thursday while hanging out with her in episode 3.
I should probably also explain why I said 'once the supernatural stuff sets in' earlier. This ties in with my other theories concerning the story, so this apparently is just a general theory post now.
My current best guess is that the whole thing we are experiencing is cyclical in nature and connected to the Scarlet family (since Tabitha and the player character are the only people affected by the carvings and therefore able to see the apparitions), and that Sybil has lived through it multiple times, which is why she doesn't seem to be fazed much by anything and was the one telling us about Ditchlings and them being a bad omen (while barely anyone else in town had heard of them before and they weren't mentioned in any of the books at the library).
When confronted about her strange attitude in episode 2, this is what she has to say:
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Tabitha also knows stuff. I mentioned before that I think she's working with Sybil, though I don't think Sybil is telling her everything, just like she did with Charlie (if it was her).
If you have both Street Smart and Keen Eye equipped, you can listen in on their entire conversation at Sybil's store.
Unfortunately, I don't have enough images left to put screenshots of the entire thing, so here's a transcription instead, in case you haven't been able to read it yet:
Sybil: "I know it took longer than you'd hoped, but this was fairly short-notice. In the future, please give me at least two months to gather what's needed, these plants aren't exactly easy to come by."
Tabitha: "Is there enough?"
Sybil: "Yes, everything should go just fine. Make sure this is all it eats for a few days, and I mean all. Put it somewhere that it can't get other food."
Tabitha: "I'm not keeping it inside."
Sybil: "Outside, then. A shed. Something enclosed. And please call me if you get confused, don't assume you know what you're doing. You only have one shot at this, remember that."
Tabitha: "Pearlanne ran me through it plenty of times, I know what I'm- "
If you ask me, that conversation is pretty reminiscent of the one the Witch had with Charlie, giving him an important item (a map, in his case) and instructions, telling him to be careful etc. (which is ironic because Tabitha called him a sucker for trusting her).
It also looks like Pearlanne has been preparing Tabitha to play her part in 'the cycle' for a while. It seems like keeping supernatural entities in check is some sort of family tradition (fun!), which has been going on for quite some time (the Scarlets have probably also have been working with Sybil for multiple generations, since Tabitha calls her 'a friend of the family' when asked about who she called in the psychedelic funhouse). I'm guessing this is also the reason why the player character's mother left and cut all ties with the family, and why they seem to be so mad at her for doing so. This task (ritual?) she needs to perform might also the reason why Tabitha asked us to come to the funeral in the first place, since she didn't exactly seem happy to see us and is strangely overprotective (so are Wayne and Sybil).
There's definitely some sort of curse on the family, since Dr. Kelly mentions that the Scarlets rarely ever came to her as patients and mostly died young (you can also see that on the family tree in the forbidden wings, at least that's what I think the angel wings on some of the portraits are meant to represent, since a lot of people with the wings look very young, but there are also people who look fairly old on there, so I'm guessing they depicted each person like they looked shortly before their death), which she suspects might be a genetic condition (She only tells you this if you ask her if she's ever seen a dead body at dinner at her house and learn that she is licensed to perform autopsies and therefore, being the only medical practitioner in town, has seen the corpse of everyone who died in Scarlet Hollow during her time there as a doctor, which might be interesting in the future, since it's been brought up before whether Pearlanne's death was really natural.).
We know for certain that there are a lot of spirits who have it out for the Scarlets, as we witnessed first-hand in episodes 2 & 3 with Charlie and the miners trying to bury us alive (and also trying to bring down the house, as we saw in the epilogue of episode 2, which they've probably been doing for a while, given the estate's condition, Stella claiming that one day, the foundation just mysteriously started to gave way when asked about what happened to the estate after reading about its former glory in 'Historical Buildings of Scarlet Hollow' with Book Smart), and that they're connected to the carvings in some way, though the carvings don't necessarily appear because someone died there since Charlie dug one of them up before being murdered (I haven't gotten into the symbolism of the carvings yet, except for the fact that they do thematically connect to the people who died there, so if you know anything about that, please comment!). It might really be some 'pact with the devil'-type situation, as some people already suspected, and the people died were some sort of sacrifice. By making a deal with some supernatural entity, one might be granted a wish (in Silas Scarlet's case, wealth), but have to pay for it with human lives (how many depending on the wish). (If the Witch was already working with the Scarlets back when Charlie was murdered, her ulterior motive in giving him a map with the locations of the carvings was probably luring him into a trap laid by the Scarlets to be the scrifice for Eddie's wish (the sacrifice having to die near a carving), as she was about to become the new head of the family.) The track that plays when discovering the first carving in the mines in episode 2 is called 'Original Sin', which adds up with this theory, but since we don't really have any concrete evidence yet, I won't get into it further at this point. (Also, if I remember correctly, the mine collapse happened long after Silas Scarlet discovered the coal veins on his land and founded the mines, becoming rich in the process, but I don't have a clear time line of events in mind, so yeah, just speculation for now.)
It might also be worth looking into Dr. Kelly and Reese some more, since it's pretty obvious that there's another one of the carvings at the clinic. I've seen a lot of theories about Reese having some supernatural force within him his mother is trying to subdue with the meds, making him sick in the process, and I fully agree with those! (That would also explain the Ditchlings coming right up to Reese's window, besides them living at the edge of the woods (I mean, Duke lives in the woods and still had no idea it was them taking his chicken for quite some time.), as well as his art prominently featuring symbolism of something breaking free from inside of him, etc.) Maybe Reese died or almost died at some point and Dr. Kelly made a deal with the supernatural entity to keep him alive, the carving being a sign of the pact (it being inside the clinic would also make sense in that scenario). But if the Scarlet family didn't have anything to do with that one, it wouldn't make sense for the player character to feel just as drawn to it as to the others. If you read 'Historical Buildings of Scarlet Hollow' at the library, you learn about the history of the hospital and that it's also named after the Scarlets so they might have something to do with it after all, but that, in turn, doesn't explain Dr. Kelly's odd behaviour regarding the matter. The Scarlets and Dr. Kelly working together also doesn't make sense because they never consulted her even when they were sick.
At this point, all of this is just pure speculation though.
As for the 'it' Sybil and Tabitha were talking about: It might be Wayne, since Tabitha is referring to him as 'it' in the Charlie's domain (which you can also point out), and it's not the person Avery was representing in the ghost scequence, since they're already inside the estate. (Tabitha might also have been dating all those miners in hopes of finding someone fitting to be whatever Wayne is now, since it seems fairly out of character without an ulterior motive (though that's a bit of a stretch without any concrete evidence). I suspect that Wayne isn't actually Sam Wayne anymore, but a vessel for something, since if you meet up with Isaacs in episode 3 (only possible with Street Smart), he tells you about what he was like (they were good friends), and it doesn't sound like the 'Wayne' we know. Him being chosen as the vessel instead of any of the other miners Tabitha was dating before might be because he's (quoting Isaacs) "built like a brick house", since that might delay the vessel 'going bad', as we know he's already decaying rapidly despite his prior great physical condition. That, or all the other miners were used too but didn't last as long (long enough to escape), as we don't know if they came back after being dumped.) We didn't see Wayne at all in episode 3 before he showed up in the ghost's domain, and when he showed up, Tabitha seemed pretty shocked, so that might add up, but trying to keep him locked inside a decrepit shack (as Sybil suggested, which is definitely the shack back at the estate) seems pretty unrealistic, since he's smart and strong enough to escape easily, so I'm unsure about that one. Let's hope we'll be able to investigate the shed in episode 4.
All that said, I don't think any of it necessarily makes neither Sybil nor Tabitha a 'bad person'. Tabitha likely doesn't have the full picture and seems to view whatever she's doing as her duty and it clearly puts her under immense pressure.
Sybil also seems to be doing what she thinks needs to be done in order to satisfy the supernatural powers threatening the town. As for the 'role' (as she puts it) she's playing in all of this, her name might give some insight: Sybil means 'prophetess', which suits her, since she first told us about Ditchlings being a bad omen and seems to frequently play the part of the adviser. We'll probably find out a lot more about her in episode 4, since she invited us to come talk to her in private at the end of episode 3.
There's still a lot of things I haven't done research on, but this post is already way too long as is (sorry). If you got through all of it, I congratulate you, I probably wouldn't have been able to do the same, and if there's anything I missed, please let me know.
Update 1:
So I tried out some more trait combinations and with both Keen Eye and Book Smart, you can identify two of the plants Sybil keeps in her tea room as castor bean and oleander which both have healing effects but are also highly poisonous.
I didn't find any symbolism connected to castor beans, but some of the meanings associated with oleander fit Sybil pretty well. Oleander can represent caution, destiny and understanding. And here's the best part: Remember what I said about Sybil being some sort of prophetess? It's speculated that in ancient Greece, oleander leaves were burned at Delphi by the oracles, since inhaling the smoke induces symptoms similar to the ones described by sources from back then. (I don't really think this is super important, just a neat coincidence(?))
Update 2:
I tried hanging out with different people in episode 3, and it seems like local private eye Avery also finds Sybil suspicious. They tell you that Sybil is friendly but distant and never reveals anything meaningful about herself. Not much but it's interesting that you can talk to multiple people about how weird Sybil is.
Update 3:
This time about the mysterious 'person' locked away in the estate. I went through the soundtrack again and turns out the track that plays during their scene in Charlie's realm is titled 'The Entity'. I previously assumed 'The Entity' was referring to The Resonant (aka Charlie), but when I replayed the whole ghost sequence, this track didn't play during any of his main scenes. Instead, it plays during the scene where Charlie talks to the mysterious figure behind the locked door.
I read theories about Tabitha knowing about another person inside the manor and possibly even feeding it, but a grown human person from back then would hardly be alive now, no matter how much you feed them, so it being some nonhuman entity would explain why it likely still is (Since the door was shown in the epilogue of episode 1, it's definitely going to be important in some way.). It not being human would also explain the claw marks and the many locks. (I noticed that the claw marks are mostly outside of the door though, as if something was trying to get in, rather than out.) It might even be the entity the Scarlets have a contract with if you're going with the pact-with-the-devil-theory I mentioned earlier, but I can't think of any reasons why it would allow itself to be locked up by them.
I also think Tabitha genuinely didn't know about it, since if you ask her (with the Street Smart trait) why she was so riveted to what the Entity was saying, she tells you that apparently there are family secrets she was never let in on and, as far as I can tell with how much she pauses and her insecure expression, I believe she was actually surprised. If you ask her where in the estate this room would be located, she tells you that it would be the forbidden wings, which she probably wouldn't reveal so easily if she was trying to keep a secret. She also says that the forbidden wings of the estate were sealed off at least a decade ago, so she herself might have bought into the whole 'danger' thing and never actually went there.
I know this isn't about Sybil but this post escalated a long time ago and I thought this was too interesting not to mention, but it's not enough concrete stuff to justify an entire post on its own.
Update 4:
If you don't invite Tabby to come ghost hunting, Sybil will take you home in her place and on the way, you can literally ask her if she's a witch (which she, of course, denies). There's a lot of interesting dialogue in that alternate path. I've only skimmed through it for now but I'm definitely gonna do some more analysis on that (probably... one day...). I almost feel sorry for selling something so obvious as a theory now. Also, with the Mystical trait, you can note that Sybil has a very powerful aura, but most of you probably already knew that since it's one of the most popular traits.
Update 5:
With the Mystical trait, the game also literally spells out for you who the characters in the ghost sequence are supposed to be by naming them 'The Witch', 'The Entity' etc., instead of the possessed people's names. Sorry for putting it like that part was some huge discovery; it was for me, since I didn't have that trait. Some day, I'll have to replay the entire game with Mystical, it seems awfully useful.
Update 6:
So about not being able to leave Scarlet Hollow: Rosalina had to be brought to a hospital outside of town if she got injured in episode 2:
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I can't believe I missed this. Even without picking that dialogue option it's pretty obvious that Dr. Kelly wouldn't have been able to deal with an amputation on her own, and she's the only practitioner in town.
I don't know where this leaves us exactly, but according to what the Witch said, it sounded more like you're not necessarily unable to leave but misfortune will befall you if you try to. Since Rosalina's already had plenty of misfortune by then, maybe she was exempt from this... ? That, or the fact that her goal wasn't to leave permanently (since Oscar had to leave town too to pick her up).
Of course there's always the possibility of a secret ending where you get to leave town with Kaneeka and live happily ever after, but I somehow doubt that.
(I'm excited for episode 4! :D)
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daemonoferror · 11 months
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On one hand I'm like, there's no fucking way Tabitha didn't have ulterior motives for inviting us to her mother's funeral, she's definitely gearing up to like. Sacrifice us or some shit, and the more pissed off we make her the less remorse she's gonna have when she kills us.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND
It'd be hilarious if she DID just want some morale support and that was THE ONLY reason for her inviting us. We walk in on her sacrificing that goat and we're like "OH GOD YOU ARE GONNA KILL ME AND USE MY BLOOD IN A SATANIC RITUAL?! I KNEW IT!"
and shes like "what? Dude no. I was just sad. I literally just invited you because I needed a friend. My mom just died, I'm miserable." . . . "But could you help me sacrifice this goat?"
And, personally, I think the comedic option should always win, so-
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kris-mage-fics · 7 months
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Who do u think is most likely to (possibly) die permanently in SH
Hi anon, I had to give this some thought because in the past I’ve only considered the idea of who could die in Scarlet Hollow so briefly I didn’t have an answer. But now that I’ve let it percolate for a while I have some ideas. Spoilers below, but I’m going to be kinda vague about them. I hope you're okay with a long answer, friend, because that’s what this turned into, lol!
First off I think anyone who dies in the course of the game won’t come back in some way. The two people who can die in Episode 4 do so in such a way that it wouldn’t be possible for them to come back in the flesh. Unless we get another ghost or their spirit inhabiting another body they are gone-gone. Obviously I could be wrong, but given we’ve already dealt with a ghost and people being temporarily puppeted, I believe any death is permanent. And our choices really do matter!
So “most likely” to possibly die I think are Kaneeka, Sybil, and Avery. Kaneeka has a lot of concerning magical girl imagery associated with her character. I’m not familiar with some of it, but I love Madoka Magica, and the Sayaka statue is worrisome when you consider how her character arc ends. Like a lot of fans, I predict that Kaneeka will have some kind of magical girl-like awakening or transformation, and my guess is it has the possibility to end with her dying. And much like Tabitha, Kaneeka takes her family duty seriously even when it’s painful. So I think it’s within the realm of possibility for her to pull some sort of self sacrificing move.
Sybil is very connected to what’s going on, obviously a lot more than she’s letting people know. Which could easily put her in serious danger. Plus it adds Kaneeka and Miles to to Dead Mom’s Club! I know that seems like a joke, but I’m mostly serious. There are a lot of themes in the game about generational trauma and abusive parents. I think Sybil dying, especially if it’s from a choice Kaneeka makes, fits with the themes we’ve already seen in the game. And in light of how Episode 4 can end, that just adds weight to the theory in my opinion.
For Avery, it’s purely because they are way too casual about all the horrors happening! Mx Belle, please don’t say you’d be okay with a ditchling using your body to incubate it’s offspring! Do they even have a self-preservation instinct in the face of supernatural stuff? Because it sure doesn’t look like it from where I’m standing. Avery is reckless and much too willing to get into bad situations just for the thrill of it, so that doesn't bode well for their survival.
Granted, I’m not sure anyone is safe. And I’m concerned about Janey and Pastor Daniel making it to the end of the game. That conversation you can have with Tabitha about how no one in town has two parents is pretty ominous with her reply of basically “Tulip has two parents, for now.” Honestly, I do hope at least the kids are safe, because there is no way I could handle a child dying! (Despite the fact I don’t want children, I’m exceedingly fond of them.) Also, it just doesn’t feel right from the direction Abby and Tony seem to be taking the story.
Thanks for the ask, anon! Ngl, I was a little surprised to see it since there are quite a few SH fans here who are much more known for talking about the game and their theories. But it’s was fun, if a bit morbid, to think about! <3
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blacktabbygames · 1 year
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hello we're doing a fan art competition!! And the theme is ~predictions~
To participate you just draw fanart of a theory or prediction for either slay the princess or scarlet hollow! Make sure to tag with either the title of the game or something related to the game... don't worry, we'll find it >;3
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