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teethcritter · 1 year

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Alright, so. Finn and Princess Bubblegum. Yeah, yeah. Hero and the princess, a story as old as time. We all know the princess in question is by no means into boys, as Patience put it.

So what happens when we look at their relationship from a purely professional standpoint? A lot!

So, let's start with some background information, at least in my view of the characters. I think personally, that it makes sense for PB to have known Finn for a while before season 1. I like to think that she actually helped Jake with raising him, as she probably would've checked on the tree house from time to time with all her surveillance issues and a certain vampire breakup. And I mean, who's to say she wasn't in contact with Joshua and Margaret as well? They had, supposedly, the only human left in their hands. She would've been interested in that. She would've been very interested in that.

Now, let's take a moment to consider what being partially raised by a princess / mad scientist would do to your brain. Let's take a moment to consider what being a knight at such a young age would do to your brain. Clearly a number since the very first episode of the series is Finn and PB causing a zombie apocalypse.

PB was shown in a very morally grey light right from the start. What Have You Done?(s1ep24) is one of my all time favorite episodes because of how well it's portrayed.

Finn is pretty willing to cross her in this episode once he realizes that the right thing is not what she asked of him, but it certainly sets the groundwork of the CONSEQUENCES for doing so; as well as "The princess is always right," mentality he seems to have for most of the series. (A/N: these clips are taken out of context of the full episode, I highly recommend you watch the full thing to understand what happens in it, why PB and Finn do what they do, etc. This goes for all the eps I'll mention.)

As Finn ages, we see his relationship with PB change a LOT. Even after he gets over his crush, he still seems to worship her. In a way that she's kinda conditioned him to.

A very important thing to note while I talk about this, especially around this part, is that I STRONGLY believe that neither of these characters are in the wrong in the relationship. I don't think one is abusing or manipulating the other. It's a two way street. They are both making it worse.

The next episode I'm going to reference is Princess Cookie(s4ep13) (Another A/N: I apologize for the google drive links from here on out, Tumblr only allows one video per post. Cringe.)

By this point, Jake is willing to cross PB AND FINN in the name of doing the right thing. Finn however, is not. As we can see clearly here. Jake has a criminal past. Jake understands that crimes are often committed by people with a very messed up mental state. Those people need help, not a lifetime in the dungeon. But clearly, Finn doesn't get that. Which is not his fault whatsoever. He's been a knight since at least age 12.

I also find this dialogue from the same episode incredibly interesting. I know Jake was playing a part here. I know he was trying to de-escalate the situation so that PB wouldn't send in the guards, but these words still left his mouth.

And I don't know, the fact that he quickly had to correct himself makes this seem genuine to me.

This concept can actually be explored further in Burning Low(s4ep16) which is literally two episodes after this.

I was originally going to avoid Burning Low in this analysis, despite it being one of my favorites, but it is pretty important to the relationship between Finn/Jake and PB. It doesn't take much for Jake to flip out on PB in this episode, which is a drastic contrast from his demeanor in the first half of it. It really makes me consider the fact that he could have some deeply rooted issues with her. Or even, some deeply rooted issues with how much time Finn spends with her.

Another small note from this episode, is this.

We know for a FACT that this is not romantic jealousy in the slightest. I think that Bubblegum has gotten so used to being worshipped by Finn, that now that there's someone in the way — especially someone who she has such a strained relationship with — there is this weird jealousy. Not because she's in love with Finn, but because he's growing up. Because she isn't the sole princess in his life anymore. Because she has one less person 100% fixed on her and her alone. Because Finn is HER knight.

Alright, now before we move onto season 5, there's one more thing from season 4 that is worth talking about. This scene in The Lich(s4ep26).

This scene is one of the most disturbing scenes in the whole show for me, because of a few reasons. First of all, this is after Burning Low. This is after both of them have their explosions at her. But this is about Finn. Finn, right now, thinks that PB is jealous of him and Flame Princess. He thinks that now that there's someone in the way, that suddenly she cares. Which isn't entirely wrong, as I stated in the previous paragraph.

I think that her reaction here was partially a trauma response. Her reaction to Finn in general around this time period could be in relation to Mr. Cream Puff as well, since as we see in Bonnibel Bubblegum(s10ep4), was not a consensual relationship. Of course though, his pursuits were unwanted. Her reactions don't have to be because of a specific thing. She said no, case and point.

Now, I'm not going to get into the insanity of Farmworld Dimension, but I do think it's interesting that this interaction is the last one between the original Finn and PB. Of course Finn after Farmworld is still technically the original because of the paradox Jake created, but it's still interesting to me. Anyways, like I said, I'm not going to get into that in much detail.

Onto season 5! Frost and Fire(s5ep30) is a hard watch. But I rewatched it for this and actually made a connection that I've never made before. Jake says to chase the Cosmic Owl dream, which leads Finn down this road of manipulation. I don't put Jake at fault whatsoever, I highly doubt he expected Finn to do what he did. Finn fucked up — Aaand... I can draw some pretty distinct parallels between Finn and Flame Princess' breakup, and PB and Marceline's breakup.

Frost and Fire

Obsidian(AT:DL ep2)

After the breakup, Finn is not in the best mental state, obviously. He still doesn't understand what he did wrong and I think that's partly what's eating away at him. He doesn't understand what happened. But in a desperate attempt at getting back to normalcy, he gives himself entirely up to PB again. And then we get this line from the episode Rattleballs(s5ep46)!

PB tells him to relax, and he goes off to fight things in a dump. As you do. He finds Rattleballs there and after some training, Finn asks how he ended up here. Rattleballs explains that he escaped Bubblegum's mass execution. And he asks Finn to not out him, but loyalty to the Princess comes first.

Finn thought that Rattleballs and PB could talk it out at this point. Which they did kinda end up doing. But that is so goddamn interesting to me. He doesn't know the lengths of which PB goes, but it's so clear that deep down he DOES acknowledge that something is not right with her. Which means by proxy, something's not right with him either.

I'm going to break away from the show here to reference the comics. I know they're not canon, however the Princess and Princess graphic novel doesn't really contradict anything from the show, so I think this is of note. Finn isn't scared of her, he's scared what she'll do to other people. Very interesting.

Okay, back to the show.

In Hot Diggity Doom(s6ep42), PB loses the crown. This interaction is one that stands out to me.

Obviously the situation is tense. They don't want to serve a dillweed, but "We pledged our allegiance to you," freaks me out a bit! We didn't see this happen. This was before Slumber Party Panic(s1ep1). We don't know how Finn and Jake became her knights. They also seem to be aware of something relating to Cream Puff, as both of them know he died somehow. They both mention in it Slumber Party Panic. Besides exploding when scared, candy people don't die of natural causes as far as we've seen thus far. I do wonder what happened to that guy.

And this monologue in The Thin Yellow Line(s7ep25) doesn't make me feel any better about it. I am fully aware that implying PB did something to him is grasping at straws from what we're given, but hey! It's PB. And boy oh boy, is it interesting to consider that maybe Finn and Jake knew that.

Moving on from that random headcanon though, I want to talk about how Finn reacts to all that information from Banana Guard 16. Obviously he embellished the truth there. PB did what she had to do for the most part, although... not very ethically. Finn knows that. He knew a good chunk of that by this point in the series, and his opinion on her hasn't seemed to have changed. When he actually sees PB at the end, he realizes that maybe Banana guard 16 was right. Maybe she is gonna take him apart. So he, y'know, does a super sneaky thing and switches the guards. Instead of taking to her about it, he puts an innocent guard to death, as far as he knows. And we all know that she didn't actually do anything to anyone in that episode, she even says she's not proud of her past!! Growth!!! We love to see it. Though Finn, seems to have gotten worse.

He's gotten better socially, as he makes up with Flame Princess in Bun Bun(s8ep6), but worse professionally.

And here we go! Another parallel in Varmints(s7ep2).

At the beginning of Islands, we get my favorite scene in the whole show. We get Fern, PB, and Marceline seeing the gang off. And then we get a very interesting interaction between Finn and PB. She explains that if he finds humans, he might find out some heavy stuff about where he came from. She makes him promise that he'll come back to Ooo. And he doesn't promise. They hug, and he leaves. And she says, "He'll be safe." But clearly she doesn't believe herself. Finn, in my eyes, is probably the most important person in PB's life next to Marceline. And she's terrified that he's gonna leave his family for blood.

In season 9, when Elements starts, and Finn and Jake are greeted with the candy tree house, Finn automatically assumes that it was PB, which is something I don't see talked about a lot.

And wow, speaking of season 9! Fern would not have died the first time if PB didn't install a FATALITY SETTING TO THE WEED WACKER. Just a thought. Just an observation, if you will.

Then by season 10, he pretty much spends the entire season trying to prevent the war she's starting. And then in Obsidian, he's still ready to be by her side at the drop of a hat. And to top it all off—

In Together Again, even in death, his first thought for outside help, is her.

This never ended. They never fixed any of these problems. Finn is the knight of a dictator. Even if he wants to be ethical, he can't be. And I think somewhere, he knows that.

I'll probably go into seasons 7-10 deeper at some point in the future but tumblr's image limit for this post was hit a while ago LMFAO

TL;DR if you're going to talk about PB's wrongdoings, you can't pretend Finn is innocent. I strongly believe neither of them are bad people, and that they really do need each other. But that's not good. They actively make each other worse.

#analysis #adventure time #atimers

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time-for-crows · 12 days

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Wow the intro for s1ep24 of jrwi prime defenders is weird. Hope nothing bad or evil or emotionally damaging happens in this episode ^_^ especially because I have to wait until after my exam tomorrow to watch it ^_^

#anyway. clawing at my cage.#I know things go terribly wrong don’t worry #i know Things happen but I don’t know full context #jrwi prime defenders #jrwi pd

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elenaomifan · 4 months

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Elenaomi guide

A guide to the 36 episodes and content within the Elena of Avalor movie which feature Elenaomi scenes.

Episodes

s1ep1, "First Day of Rule" [Elena meets Naomi for the first time and trusts her so much that she lets her on the royal council!]

s1ep2, "Model Sister" [Naomi tries to cover for Elena in a royal meeting, even trying on a robe, so that she looks like Elena.]

s1ep3, "All Heated Up" [At one point, Elena and Naomi work together to help a rock being find his mate]

s1ep5, "Spellbound" [Elena and Naomi have some nice moments in the library together]

s1ep7, "Finders Leapers" [Elena helps Naomi (who is trying to prove her worth to Esteban and Naomi) regain confidence after Esteban claims she is "incompetent"]

s1ep11, "Navidad" [Naomi tries to convince Elena to join her family's Navidad/Christmas celebration and they end up celebrating together. There is even part of a song in which Naomi and Elena are on ship to together (hint hint)]

s1ep12, "Olaball" [Elena and Naomi play together in an Avaloran Olaball team]

s1ep16, "Captain Turner Returns" [Naomi shows Elena a light atop a lighthouse meant to signal ships, hoping to help her mother, who is returning from a long voyage. They work to beautify her house before Naomi's mother arrives, and sing a song together. Elena later works to ensure that Naomi's mother gets a job in Avalor, so she will stay there, and that Naomi won't leave. Elena also comforts Naomi while she feels down.]

s1ep18, "My Fair Naomi" [Naomi comes to visit Elena and soon becomes self-absorbed (in part thanks to Esteban) after Elena tries to throw a Royal Quinceañera for her. She realizes the error with her ways and decides to dance with her friends, including Elena...]

s1ep21, "Realm of the Jaquins" [Naomi sees Elena off before her travel to the jaquin realm, where she lets out a forest spirit]

s1ep23, "Party of a Lifetime" [Naomi goes with Elena, Mateo, and Gabe on a journey that leads them to a never-ending party ship, from which they need to escape.]

s1ep24, "Blockheads" [Naomi and Elena talk and hang out before they, and others, are transformed into blockheads.]

s2ep2, "Royal Rivalry" [Naomi attempts to hold Elena back when talking to Valentina, and gives her advice. At times, Naomi is infuriated with Valentina, and Elena attempts to hold her back, lest the possibility it will be a diplomatic incident.]

s2ep3, "The Curse of El Guapo" [There is a short scene of Naomi, Elena, and Mateo together.]

s2ep5, "A Spy in the Palace" [Carla sneaks into the royal palace, attempting to spy on the royal court, but this is a failure, with her only seeing Naomi and Elena as being affectionate (basically). At one point, Naomi is annoyed at how close Elena and Carla (in her fake/transformed form) are. Clearly, Naomi is jealous.]

s2ep7, "Rise of the Sorceress" [Naomi attempts to warn Elena that Carla, who is disguised as Rita, is a danger. In the process, Naomi and Elena get even closer, with Elena grateful for Naomi saving her from an attack.]

s2ep8, "Shapeshifters" [In an attempt to find Shuriki, after a Grand Council vote not to her liking, Elena changes into a jaquin, but is then accused of a crime even though she is innocent. One of those who votes against Elena is Naomi, making her sad.]

s2ep9, "Scepter of Night" [Elena and her friends (like Naomi) attempt to get the first piece of an evil counterpart to the scepter of light before it is too late. At certain points, Naomi appears to be in awe of how much power Elena's scepter, and Elena by extension, has, and the new spell she can do.]

s2ep10, "The Race for the Realm" [Elena and Naomi ride on Jaquins into the jaquin lands, as Elena attempts to find more pieces of the evil scepter before Shuriki can use it.]

s2ep13, "All Kingdoms Fair" [Armando is tasked with organizing the All Kingdoms Fair in an attempt to give him more self-confidence. In the process, Elena and Naomi hang out, even checking out the floats for the fair.]

s2ep15, "Song of the Sirenas" [Elena visits Duke Cristóbal, her cousin, and befriends sea creatures known as sirenas, hoping they will help her defeat Shuriki. Naomi, along with Isa, Gabe, and Mateo, comes along with Elena.]

s2ep16, "Tides of Change" [As Elena tries to get a treaty between humans and sirenas signed, one commander tries to prove to sirenas that humans still don't trust them by employing evil dolphins, hoping it will scuttle the treaty negotiations. Naomi is wary of the sirenas at first, but later supports Elena's peace initiative.]

s2ep18, "Finding Zuzo" [Elena attempts to get other spirit guides to help her when Zuzo goes missing. In the process, she works with Naomi. They have an argument and later reconcile.]

s2ep19, "Snow Place Like Home" [Naomi comes with her family to a quiet holiday celebration at the royal castle hosted by Elena. Snow threatens the entire thing and she attempts to hold it together.]

s2ep25, "Naomi Knows Best" [When Elena and her friends are captured by three evil wizards, Ash, Victor, and Carla, Naomi has no choice, but to save them by any means necessary.]

s3ep1, "Sister of Innovation" [In an attempt to prove she is a valuable team member, Isabel involves herself in a mission (including Naomi and Elena working together) which puts the team in great personal danger.]

s3ep5, "Norberg Peace Prize" [Elena travels to the Kingdom of Norberg and attempts to assist two rulers, hoping they can work out their disagreements. Naomi comes with Elena and tries to assist her the best way she can.]

s3ep6, "The Magic Within" [Elena's magical powers are increased when she falls into a crystal well. With these new abilities, she finds out about Esteban's dirty secret. Naomi serves as a supportive friend through this process.]

s3ep15, "Team Isa" [A magical bandit puts Elena and Naomi (who are hanging out together, and her other friends in a magical trance. Isabel and her buddies are the only ones who can save the day.]

s3ep16, "The Last Laugh" [When Veronica, Naomi's childhood friend, comes to visit, Naomi begins to rethink her role on the Grand Council, and she decides to leave Naomi and Avalor, at least for the time being, so she can figure it out.]

s3ep19, "Giant Steps" [Naomi comes back to Avalor, warning Elena of a growing threat to Avalor itself. This episode also features Naomi and Elena singing a duet together.]

s3ep21, "Crash Course" [A flashy wizard, Bronzino, is recruited by Gabe to teach the Avaloran Royal Guards. There are some nice scenes between Elena and Naomi in this episode.]

s3ep23, "Lightning Warrior" [Elena frees Ixlan, a new ally, from a magical curse. There are some nice scenes between Elena and Naomi in this episode.]

s3ep26, "Elena's Day Off" [Elena tries to take a day off before her royal coronation, with the help of Naomi and Isa]

s3ep27, "To Queen or Not To Queen" [Elena questions whether she should be queen and Zuzo shows her an alternate reality of what it could have been. Elena is even able to bond with the Naomi in the alternate world too! Damn!]

s3ep28, "Coronation Day" [Naomi tries to help Elena get ready to be coronated as Queen of Avalor. Later, in the last part of this episode, she decides, in perhaps the peak Elenaomi moment of the entire series, to make Naomi her "chancellor" in what almost looks like a marriage/relationship proposal.]

Movie

Elena and the Secret of Avalor [Bookended by scenes of Elena and Naomi hanging out together, atop a waterfall. Some Elenaomi fans have called this a "secret date spot." During their conversation Elena recalls Shuriki and her parents, and Naomi teases Elena about her age, saying she is "57" (she isn't effectively*, but that's another story for another day)]

*As it says on the fandom page, she is age "57-58 (in season 1; chronologically)" but is, biologically, only 16-17 in season 1. By season 3 she is age 19-20 biologically. I would say the chronological number is total bunk, as her biological age didn't change, so...

#elenaomi #elena x naomi #elena of avalor #elena castillo flores #episode guide #naomi turner #wlw #lgbtq #guides

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jennyandvastraflint · 4 months

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Xena Reactions S1Ep24! FINALE TIMEEEE!

Is this a flashback? Oh, no, just interesting shots of a war

Wait whoooo... I feel like I should know her? Is she from the Amazon episode?

"Someone has to stop it. I did not mean this as a challenge" love Gabrielle reading her gf like that

"Spill their blood" or maybe... You don't so that?

She yeeteth him off the horse

OH SHE STABBED HIM??

Oh ok she's saving his life

WAIT. Is she the one who wanted to marry a centaur?

HIPPOCRATES

"harlot"????

Xena fuck yeahhh, she is skilleddd

Bruh, dudes... Be useful instead of reducing Xena to her beauty

Gabrielle's bedside manner <3

Artemis 😌💚

"Life is only what you make of it" so real babygirl

NOOOO the one Xena's is trying so save will die, won't he...

OH FFS Temple dude shut itttt

:( Nooooo

GABRIELLE MY SWEET BABY T_T

"I'm sorry, I did try, I-" "It wasn't your fault" AAAAA

"You're beyond freedom. You passed that line when you turned this into a bloodbath."

Gabrielle ❤️

Oh nuh, an amputation

SHE NUMBED HIM. Anesthesia Xena style

She's gonna cut that leg off with a hot blade

HOLY SHIT...

Omfg his son :(

Please tell Xena where you're going, Gabrielle

OH FUCK SHE'S GONNA GIVE BIRTH to... A half centaur?

" Then I learned forgiveness and from that I learned love" AAAAA

"Is bloodshed all you want them to know?"

NOOOO, GABRIELLE WAS HURT. NONONO

She thinks she's gonna die 😭 And wants to pass her rank. On to Ephiny

NOOOOO THE DUDE WAS SHOT

"What about Gabrielle?" he's half dying and just wants her to save Gabrielle

Xena is si desperate to help Gabrielle. SHE STROKE HER HEAD GENTLY

Xena staying with the patients 😭

EPHINY IS STILL ABOUT TO GIVE BIRTH

WELL ACTually... They wouldn't have made her lie on her back. She should be kneeling, let gravity do the rest. It's way easier than lying on her back

Instead of, y'know. C sectioning her

HOOFIES! I sure hope she surcives tho

Fucking FINALLY he does something about it. Good. What everyone always had to do from the very start. SIT DOWN AND TALK!!! (to quote 12)

GABRIELLE!??

"She's not dead. I wouldn't let her." NOOOO

"You're scaring me, wake up" I'm not crying, you are

KISS. well. Air.

Oh she snapped. She's NOT ready to lose Gabrielle. KINDA LIKE ANOTHER WARRIOR I KNOW, CALLED VASTR-

"Let it go." "No."

SHE'S BACKKKK! She punched her heart back into rhythm

FOREHEAD KISS. HOLD AGAINST THE BOOBIES

I'm not sobbing you are

Ayooo, Hippocrates writing stuff down

Wait I need to find that funny illustration of centaur babies because a human baby can't hold its head upright yet XD

XENA SUPPORTING HER

Argh, they're so. 🥰😭❤️

I've finished S1 now!

#v watches xena #oh yeah i was sobbing my eyes out at this #great finale tho!#i love the lesbianism of it #i love lesbians #xena warrior princess #xena and gabrielle

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d4rk-x-w0lf-17 · 7 months

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man

y'all remember when s1ep24 of osomatsu-san dropped? the shockwaves the episode emitted that day were intense. the entire fandom was inconsolable for an entire week, we were all crying and sobbing; clawing at any desperate hope that the next episode would be happier and that the brothers would be reunited

and then ep25 dropped and we didn't know how to feel

y'all remember that

#i still occasionally rewatch that episode cuz that one hit us all HARD #osomatsu-san #ososan #mr osomatsu

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morfitties · 6 months

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Rewatching Fruits Basket and S1ep24 breaks my heart every time

#fruits basket

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blueytalks · 7 months

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s1ep24 wagon ride

#bingo #bingo heeler #bluey #bluey heeler #bandit #bandit heeler

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filmjunky-99 · 2 years

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s t a r t r e k t h e n e x t g e n e r a t i o n created by gene roddenberry [we'll always have paris, s1ep24] 'Paris, Re-created'

#star trek #star trek the next generation #the next generation #gene roddenberry #tng season 1 #the next generation season 1 #tng We'll Always Have Paris #We'll Always Have Paris #lot: st tng season 1 ep 24/26 (ep 24/178)#patrick stewart #michelle phillips #Jean-Paul Vignon #jean luc picard #Jenice Manheim #Edourd #Paris Re-created

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notesofarichlycolorednight · 1 month

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s1ep24 antibug

alright another episode i was highkey dreading

another list to help me keep track

sabrina not even getting her own akumatization arc, her character, and her "friendship" with chloe

marinette having to learn another lesson and chat noir scolding ladybug

marinette/ladybug being nice to chloe

chloe not learning anything and not changing

the weird emphasis on ladybug being nothing without chat noir and that they're partners in the episode itself

casual racism

sabrina: i'm honestly kinda annoyed that sabrina didn't even get her own episode. and that her akumatization revolves strictly around chloe and only serves chloe's narrative to become akumatized. as if the writers couldn't come up with a way to have chloe be akumatized specifically because she was mad at ladybug. which is such bullshit considering marinette is ladybug and already doesn't like chloe. sabrina is nothing but a one-dimensional plot device. she's a lamp! she's a lamp.

part of that also stems from sabrina as a character and the creator's/writers' decisions on their relationship. i've talked about this before but it hits closer to home for me bc i was sabrina insofar as i was very shy, very soft-spoken, often (and still kind am) a wallflower, and had a hard time making friends. and all of those traits leave you very open and vulnerable to bullies making friends with you to take advantage of the fact that you can't stand up for yourself. and you crave human connection, so you stay with them bc you can't fathom being alone or trying to make new friends bc you're shy and socially awkward.

and it sucks that sabrina is a character that's caught in that and the writers treat it like a joke. bc there are plenty of kids out there experiencing that, i am sure of it. and all this episode did was teach these kids that they have no other choice and that their "friendship" with someone like chloe is normal. when it's actually quite toxic.

i got lucky and managed to grow out of it through a lot of introspection. but i still have those shy and soft-spoken tendencies that were and still are exacerbated by being "friends" with ppl who often belittled me, treated me as a side-kick, and never listened or cared about my opinions. but to teach kids watching that that kind of relationship is normal and healthy? i mean that's almost as bad as everything going on in kung food.

marinette learning another lesson: i know i've talked about this at length too, but it never stops irking me. the fact that marinette is always the one who is punished by the narrative but everyone else is rewarded, despite whatever else they may do. and again, since the writers don't treat this series like it's serialized even tho they want it to be, none of these characters ever do any meaningful change or grow from anything. and after 5 fucking seasons, that gets really old. unless you're doing an anti-sitcom, like always sunny, then it makes sense for everything to be reset and characters not to grow or change. that's literally the point of an anti-sitcom.

anyway, it's unfair to always give marinette these trials and not have any of her classmates go through the same things. most especially adrien since he's supposed to be the deuxteragonist. like i know it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things since everything gets reset. but a better show would've actually developed marinette and adrien, and then her classmates, so that we actually felt a connection to any of them. actually cared about any of them. but like with sabrina, they're set-dressing for mainly marinette and adrien, but also alya and nino, since they're best friends of marinette and adrien, and also chloe. and notably, these characters all get miraculous.

but tikki and chat noir scolding marinette for not listening to chloe doesn't translate her not asking for help from others or taking chat noir's advice later. marinette is right!! chloe literally just lied to her, so why should she believe anything chloe says after that? this is not to mention that chloe is extremely racist?? so why should marinette be remotely nice to her at all?

god i wish she had been turned into soup.

besides which, it's not like she ignores chat noir. he often provides advice that ladybug listens to (tho i don't know why. he barely contributes to the team at all)

idk why i made marinette being nice to chloe a different point. it just annoyed me so much i guess i put it there, but all i wanted to say about that is above.

i still wish chloe had been turned into soup.

i guess point 4 can also go with point 2. these characters are stagnate. but what makes it worse is that chloe is just demonstrably a bad person. she's elitist, she's racist, she's mean. and she never grows out of it, never learns anything, is never given any things to learn from by the writers. she's just as elitist and racist and mean as she ever was. and then is rewarded for it--given a fucking miraculous.

*starts changing* soup! soup! soup! soup! soup!

emphasis on ladybug and chat noir: it was very strange that antibug kept commenting about how ladybug was nothing without chat noir when he loses in a fight to her and gets tied up to his own fighting stick/pole. like lol what. not to mention, as we've seen throughout this entire season, she can literally do the job on her own. she doesn't need chat noir at all. he's just sometimes comes in handy, but most often misuses his cataclysm (sometimes due to his own fault, sometimes due to the writers being uncreative rubes) or gets brainwashed and turns against ladybug.

like what a thing to emphasize that they're partners and equals when they are so clearly not. the writers do remember that they can't just say things right? that they also need to show these things within the wider narrative, right?

casual racism: no surprise there, this pops up again with chloe at the center of it. the fact that when she's impersonating ladybug and nadia asks about her hair, and she says that she changed it and "doesn't it look better this way" skirts so fucking close to aryan supremacy i want to gouge chloe's eyes out. i can't and also can believe the writers put that in there without a singular second thought.

bonus point: what the fuck was master fu doing in the background of the hotel when chloe and sabrina were playing ladybug and chat noir?? is that why he decided to give chloe the bee miraculous later??? on the guise that she's cruel to her friend, impersonated ladybug, and is racist??? hello???

#chirp.ml #chirp.txt #i think she should be turned into soup but i also think it wouldn't taste good considering she's a bigot

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trekkie-polls · 3 months

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There have been a huge number of famous guest stars on Star Trek over the years, so we're going to take this season by season and then have a face-off between the most voted in each series. Basically a bracket, minus the planning :). Each poll will have the same criteria: 1) they must be famous before being on Star Trek, 2) they cannot be a titled main character, and 3) when I can't fit everyone in I'm using my best judgment.

Below the fold I'm including photos of their Star Trek roles and a couple of things that made them famous before appearing on Star Trek... which limited my options to 10 names per poll (you can only have 10 photos per post).

Here's one article about some TOS TV guest stars if you want to read more about these & other cameos!

Frank Gorshin as Bele (s3ep15 Let That Be Your Last Battlefield) Previously the Riddler on the 60's Batman & a standup comic who opened on the Sullivan show for the first US Beatles appearance.

2. Ted Cassidy as Ruk (s1ep9 What are Little Girls Made Of?). Previously the voice of the Martian (Angry Red Planet), and Lurch (The Addams Family)

3. Julie Newmar as Eleen (s2ep3 Friday's Child). Previously Catwoman on Batman, and the android titular Rhoda on My Living Doll (the character who inspired Seven of Nine's name)

4. Ricardo Montálban as Khan Noonien Singh (s1ep24 Space Seed & Star Trek II). Ricardo has a long career, starting with musicals and short films in the US in 1940-41. He moved home to care for his dying mother, and became a famous Mexican Movie star in the 40's, starring in over a dozen movies. In the late 40's he returned to the US, and US Hollywood. In 1949 he was the first Hispanic Person to appear on the cover of Life Magazine. He continued to star in many movies, TV shows, and Broadway productions leading up to his first TOS appearance.

5. Michael Dunn as Alexander (s3ep12 Plato's Stepchildren). Previously Dr. Miguelito Loveless on The Wild West and Mr Big on Get Smart. Also Considered by Gene Roddenberry for the role of "Spock" in the Star Trek pilot The Cage!

6. Lee Meriwether as Losira (s3ep16 That Which Survives). Previously 1955 Ms America, Catwoman on Batman, and Tracey, Anna Rojak on Mission Impossible.

7. John Larroquette as Maltz (Star Trek III). Previously Dan Fielding on Night Count, Dr Paul Herman on Doctor's Hospital, and Second Lieutenant Robert "Bob" Anderson on Baa Baa Black Sheep.

8. Christopher Lloyd as Kruge (Star Trek III). Previously Reverend Jim Ignatowski on Taxi (a character who cannonically loved Star Trek), Phillip Semenko on Cheers, and Taber in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

9. Madge Sinclair as Captain (Star Trek IV). Previously Nurse Ernestine on Trapper John MD, and Bell Reynolds in Roots. She was the first on-screen female captain in Star Trek. She later went on to play Geordi's mom in TNG - the 4th role in which she played Levar Burton's Mother.

10. Iman as Martia (Star Trek VI). Previously a supermodel, Cynthia in L.A. Story (alongside Sir Pat Stew), Nina Beka in No Way Out, Mariammo in Out of Africa, and Lois Blyth & Dakotah in Miami Vice.

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