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demilypyro · 5 months

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So I've seen a few too many people on twitter talking about The Kiss Scene from the new Scott Pilgrim anime. People saying it's fetishistic and indulgent, people calling it male gazey, etc. And while the kiss itself is certainly a bit exaggerated, I felt like writing a bit about why I disagree, and why context is important, like it always is. But it basically turned into an extended analysis on the metatextual treatment of Roxie Richter. So bear with me. It's a long post.

What really matters about this scene is not the kiss itself, but what precedes it. Not even just the fight scene just before it, but what precedes the whole anime series, really. And that's the Scott Pilgrim comic book, and the live action movie. Because in both, Roxie is a punchline.

She's a joke. Her character starts and ends with "one of the exes is actually a girl, I bet you didn't expect that." Jokes are made about Ramona's latent bisexuality, the movie especially treating it as funny and absurd, and her validity as a romantic interest is entirely written off by Ramona as being "just a phase." There's a fight scene, she's defeated by a man giving her an orgasm which implicitly calls her sexuality into question (come on), and the movie just moves on. It sucks. It really, really sucks.

The comic fares a little better. It never veers into outright homophobia like the movie does, and while the line about Ramona having gone through a phase remains, Roxie actually gets one over on Scott when Ramona briefly gets back with Roxie. But Roxie is still only barely a character. Like all the other evil exes, she's just a stepping stone towards the male protagonist's development. She barely even gets any screentime before she's defeated by Scott's "power of love." But Roxie stands out, since she's the only villain who is queer, or at least had been confirmed queer at that point (hi Todd). In a series that champions multiple gay men in the supporting cast, the single undeniable lesbian in the story is a villain. She's labeled as evil, made fun of, pushed aside in favor of the men, and then discarded. Her screentime was never about her, or her feelings for Ramona. It was about the straight, male protagonist needing to overcome her. And that was Roxie Richter. An unfortunate victim of the 2010s.

Fast forward to current year, and the new anime series is announced. Everybody sits down to watch the new series expecting another retelling of the same story, and.... hang on, that straight male protagonist I mentioned just died in the first episode. And now it's humanizing the villains from the original story. And there's Roxie, introduced alongside the other evil exes in the second episode, and she's being played entirely straight, without a punchline in sight. No jokes are made about her gender, no questions are made of her validity as one of Ramona's romantic interests. The narrative considers her important. In one episode, she already gets more respect than she did in either of the previous iterations of Scott Pilgrim. And this isn't even her focus episode yet... which happens to be the very next one.

The anime series goes to great lengths to flesh out the original story's villains and to have Ramona reconcile with them. And I don't think it's a coincidence that Roxie gets to go first. While Matthew Patel gets his development in episode 2, Roxie is the first to directly confront Ramona, now our main protagonist. This is notable too because it's the only time the exes are encountered out of order. Roxie is supposed to be number 4, but she's first in line, and later on you realize that she's the only one who's out of sequence. She's the one who sets the precedent for the villains being redeemed. She's the most important character for Ramona to reconcile with.

What follows is probably the most extensive, elaborate 1 on 1 fight scene in the whole show. Roxie fights like a wounded animal, her motions are desperate and pained. Ramona can only barely fight back against her onslaught. Different set-pieces fly by at breakneck speed as Roxie relentlessly lays her feelings at Ramona's feet through her attacks and her distraught shouts. And unlike the comic or the movie, Ramona acknowledges them, and sincerely apologizes. And the two end up just laying there, exhausted, reminiscing about when they were together.

Only after this, after all of this, does the kiss scene happen. Roxie has been vindicated, she has reconciled with the person who hurt her, the narrative has deemed that her anger is justified and has redeemed her character. And she gets her victory lap by making the nearest other hot girl question her heterosexuality, sharing a sloppy kiss with her as the music triumphantly crescendos.

It's... a little self-congratulatory, honestly. But it's good. It's redemption for a character who had been mistreated for over a decade. And she punctuates the moment by being very, very gay where everyone can see it, no men anywhere in sight. Because this is her moment. And then she leaves the plot, on her own accord this time, while humming the hampster dance. What a legend. How could anything be wrong with this.

#scott pilgrim #spto #scott pilgrim takes off #roxie richter #roxanne richter #scott pilgrim spoilers #spto spoilers

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viveela · 5 months

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Okay so we all agree they're dating now right

#veearts #scott pilgrim #kim pine #roxie richter #ramona flowers #kim x roxie #roxanne richter #scott pilgram takes off #spoilers #fan art #scott pilgrim fanart

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dash-n-step · 5 months

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If I was Ramona I would simply not have a 4th ex

#togachako if it was good /jk #''roxie fumbled ramona'' you people are cowards #scott pilgrim takes off #scott pilgrim vs the world #scott pilgrim #roxanne richter #roxie richter #ramona flowers #kim pine #dashingwatches: scott pilgrim #dashingwatches #dashingposts #roxy richter #roxipine

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faunsipaws · 4 months

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scollace... yuri?? sort of?

flat colors under the cut!

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spreadicons · 5 months

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icons by ramonaflomers ♥

like or reblog if you save ;*

#icons #scott pilgrim pfp #icons scott pilgrim #scott pilgrim icons #scott pilgrim vs the world #scott pilgrim #icons scott pilgrim takes off #scott pilgrim takes off icons #scott pilgrim takes off #pfps #pfp icons #icons roxy richter #roxy richter icons #roxy ritchter #roxie richter #roxy richter #roxanne richter

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keplerspacecraftofficial · 5 months

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scott pilgrim is great because the queer rep is so specific and so real. bisexual who gets in their first gay relationship and gets nuts about it. lesbian who hasn’t gotten over her college situationship. slut who meets a man you didn’t know existed and settles down about it

#thoughts from the stars #scott pilgrim #todd ingram #wallace wells #spto #roxanne richter #1k #shout out to my first post to hit #2k #3k

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moderndaycassandra · 5 months

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Honestly, this has gotta be one of the most painful scenes in Scott Pilgrim Takes Off.

This shot specifically hurts my soul. I think the reason I like Scott Pilgrim so much is that every character is a bad person, even Scott and Ramona. Ramona is finally realizing that here as she flashes back to all of her exes, how she just left all of them in a very unhealthy way. But the shot with Roxie honestly hurts me the most. The rest of the exes have done something wrong that makes it easy to dislike them. But, at least in the anime, Roxie doesn't really seem to have done anything wrong until after the breakup. Her only mistake was becoming too attached. It's clear Roxie thought they had something special, a deep connection that would last a long time, but Ramona didn't feel that way and felt it was more a short-term fling.

Roxie's story just hits a bit too close to home. It actually, genuinely hurts.

#lgbtqia #lesbian #wlw #pride #queer #sapphic #scott pilgrim takes off #scott pilgrim anime #scott pilgrim #spto #spto spoilers #ramona flowers #roxie richter #roxy richter #roxanne richter

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arakianco · 2 months

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#scott pilgram takes off #scott pilgrim #scott pilgram vs the world #scott pilgram fanart #ramona flowers #envy adams #roxanne richter #art #drawing #original art #sketch #fanart

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greatsweet98 · 5 months

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finished watching the anime series, had to rush to make alignment chart memes out of 'em xd (pt. 1)

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viceandmature · 1 year

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A sexy phase

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simplytibbs · 5 months

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I'm really happy with how it turned out Roxie really is so underrated, my eyes have been opened after reading the comic she WAS DONE SO DIRTY I LOVE HER SO MUCH AUUUUUGH