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I think Kim and Tay buy their baggy leather pants at the same place.
They might even share a pair. At least in my headcanon they do.
#a random observation I made while making the Tay outfit poll lol#now I want them on a joined shopping tour where Tay teaches Kim about love and intimacy#you know...like he did with Kinn#this whole post is a random 2 a.m. thought and I'm going to bed now 😂#kinnporche the series#kim theerapanyakul#kinnporsche tay#kinnporsche headcanon#random kinnporsche thoughts
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PET
1)You are such a good pet of the main family.
2)I guess I'll bring a pet to keep me company.
3) I forgot to feed another pet.
4)A good pet listens to his owner.
5)When you're free, tell him how to be a good pet
6) You know what an untamed pet would get?
Above are all the instances where Vegas uses the word pet in episode 11 to either directly or indirectly refer to Pete.
Now you need to understand that pet is a loaded word, especially in the context used above.
A loaded word is a word which, in addition to its primary meaning, carries multiple strong emotive connotations.
What the word pet in particular evokes in this context are the following themes
loyalty
lack of agency,
kink,
dehumanisation
The first instance where the word pet is found is in correlation to Pete being under the main family, being loyal to them and continuing to be. And that makes Vegas absolutely angry, I would argue that he takes personally affront to Pete being loyal to the main family and to Kinn(oh the jealousy) and so there is the shift in degradation, because if you are a pet you lack agency and you can be treated as something less than human. And that takes us also to the kink side of things, which I won’t explain because it is not my area of expertise, but the connotation is there.
Now in contrast to the conclusion you could take from the above points Vegas never really wants Pete as his pet, it is just because of anger that he lashes out.
What Vegas really wants is a match, somebody who sees all parts of him and won’t shy away from them. Pete is all of this but also somebody who always meets him head on.
Who willingly continues to take back the power denied, by controlling what he can control.
The word pet is never used again in the second part of the episode, the repetition and pattern suddenly stops, or at least so it seems.
You could argue it happens after Vegas finds Pete unconscious when, as @lutawolf pointed out, Vegas loses all his anger.
The linguistic shift happens before however. It happens after the leashing, after Vegas feared he went too far and broke Pete. It happens when Pete is on pier after having escaped.
You see, this is the moment Vegas says “Oh you’re damn good. Head of the main family’s bodyguard”. This is where the pet repetition ends.
What I will say next will only make sense if you compare it with “You are such a good pet of the main family.”
The circle completes because Vegas recognised Pete’s autonomy here. The reality is he never wanted Pete as a “pet”, he wanted the match, someone against whom he can lash out all he wants because all he finds underneath is steel.
Vegas’ anger is still there but there is a softening, the recognition of a fellow person again. Pete is not the “pet of the main family” anymore, he is the “head of the main family’s bodyguard”.
And so you see the satisfaction when Vegas says this, the elation in some way.
And then the softness when he catches Pete and cradles him in his arms and stares at him.
I always say Vegas is the most interesting character linguistically and that is because you don’t only have to pay attention to what he says, but how he says it. He deals in double meanings and manipulation a lot, but if you can recognise the pattern, the shift, you can get at the core of what he means.
Addendum.
The same linguistic cycle does happen for the sentences below. I won’t go into them because it has already been done, but it bears noticing.
Because being with you is so darn fun.
You're no fun at all.
Get up and laugh at me.
....
Just kill me already.
At first, I was gonna kill you.
I told you to kill me.
I'm not killing you now.
If you hate me, you'll have energy to kill me later.
Dedicated to @lutawolf and @hael987 for bearing with me
Small addendum EP12
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So I'm wondering, did Pete have a roommate before Porsche? Sharing rooms seems to be a normal thing (room layout is clearly for multiple people), but Pete didn't have one when Porsche came. Was he just always alone (could explain the no-pants workout, since Pete is shy about it), or did his roommate like,,, die, and didn't get replaced until Porsche joined??
Quitting isn't a thing to the family, and the person never came back so it wasn't a vacation either. Did the minor family buy them maybe? Unless Pete just never had a roommate, which I find kinda sad but also congrats dude you got a suite to yourself that's pretty cool
#just random thoughts#you think pete was a lil cranky at first that hed have to give up space?#not spiteful or mean at all but more like oh what if the new roommate is a dick and now i cant do my butt workouts in the open anymore :(#also he has like five million gun posters and what if the new guy wanted smth different what then#i can see pete being protective over that#tho i can also see him as being easy and a bit of a pushover to avoid conflict#can be anything really#kinnporsche#kinnporsche the series#pete kp#pete phongsakorn#porsche kp#peteporsche
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Vegas | EP 11
#aka random moments where i thought 'damn he's hot'#you're welcome#kinnporsche#kinnporsche the series#vegaspete#moji gifovi
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Maybe it’s a bit far stretched but here’s a thought on Kim's scene (ep. 13) :
Up until now, aside his times with Porchay, every time we saw Kim he was investigating something (aka Kimlock Holmes). With all his photos, theories and hypothesis, connecting A to B, coming to conclusions, …
And then we have this scene. Kim with Porchay photos. Kim remembering all the times he spent with Porchay. Kim remembering what he felt during those times. Connecting, like he always do, all of the facts he has in front of him. Kim coming to a conclusion. Kim realising he’s in love. Kim realising he’s in love for quite a while now. Kim realising how badly he fucked up.
He processed his feelings the same way he would have process an investigation.
#maybe all of this wrong and I’m just bullshiting some random thoughts#but i wanted to share what my 2 brain cells came up with#kinnporsche#kinnporche the series#kim theerapanyakul#porchay kittisawasd#kim x porschay#kimchay#jeff satur#barcode tinnasit#kinnporsche thoughts#kinnporsche meta
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disturbing and intriguing images from my camera roll
#insane#bible sumettikul#kinnporsche#strangers from hell#american psycho#watamote#patrick bateman#shitpost#jaehyun#messy icons#bpd thoughts#lgbt#moodboard#random icons
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According to one of the many BTS scenes I watched, Mile and Apo said they were the same height. Despite that, throughout the series, Kinn seems to loom large, making him seem like a taller, more imposing figure. But in the last scene of episode 7, the showrunners make a point of showing a shift in this dynamic. Porsche is dwarfed by Kinn in that moment of anger and jealousy, and again when he curls into himself after Kinn corners him against the mirror. But as soon as Kinn apologizes, Porsche appears to unfold and suddenly, he's taller than Kinn (Kinn didn't just lose four centimeters of height over night). IMO (and there is excellent meta out there that really digs in to this), it plays into the shifting power dynamic between them. In that moment, Porsche holds power over Kinn and he doesn't hesitate to use it - first, to nearly walk out on him, then to forgive Kinn, to pleasure him, to surrender along with him. I really love how that scene further levels the field between them, a process that has been taking place throughout the episode.
#random thoughts#i have too many of them#kinnporsche the series#kinnporsche#kinn x porsche#kinnporsche meta#meta
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Earlier in the episode 7 Kinn in a cold, nonchalant tone replies to Vegas to do whatever he wants with Porsche.
That clearly hurts Porsche as we can see in his expression.
So, when Kinn comes barging in to save Porsche from Vegas we see him smiling but nonetheless he gets accused and again it hurts him.
I understand Kinn's insecurities more than anything but I too understand Porsche's continuous heartbreaks over being treated like a possesion instead of a human.
No wonder in coming episodes Porsche will be insecure with Tawan stalking Kinn and trying to weasel his way in between them.
Kinn has to realise that his own insecurities is making the guy he loves also very insecure. This will hurt both of them. 😑
#kinnporsche#kinnporsche the series#random thoughts#let me make this very clear I'm more on porsche side than kinn#he needs to learn to respect and love porsche better#porsche tries to show love but hets shut down so bad tht ge tries to protect himself#this series is driving me crazy
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You know what I've been thinking about? How we never see Vegas sleep during the entire show, not even in the hospital scene at the end.
We see him wear various outfits themed around ✨sleep✨ - from the obligatory sexy silky Theerapanyakul robe*TM over comfy shirt and pajama pants combinations to the good old birthday suit. We see him sitting on beds, fu...kneeling on beds, lying in beds, we see him knocked out cold on the floor, bleeding out next to the swimming pool. But never actually just...sleep.
And I keep coming back to this observation because it seems to me that that's another brilliant detail of the show, another brilliant show-don't-tell-way to characterise Vegas.
I mean look at Kinn: he feels like he's carrying his father's expectations, the family business, the whole world on his shoulders. He is paranoid and has massive trust issues and yet...he's still able to sleep. Okay, he's sleeping with a gun at first and with his literal bodyguard later (double meaning intended) - but that's beside the point.
We even see Kim sleep. Hell, if we didn't have the scene of him and Porchay dozing on the couch, I would have wholeheartedly believed that he's running on spite, barely contained violence and aesthetics alone. Plotting and sleuthing 24/7, writing music in between. And yet, and yet.
They show us Kinn and Kim and so many of the other characters (Porsche...mostly Porsche 😂) sleep. But not Vegas. Never Vegas.
And I feel like this is a perfectly subtle way to underline how restless Vegas actually is. How he's always trying to catch up with his father's expectations, with Kinn. Always scheming, conniving, conspiring, always trying to proof his worth, to make his father proud. Running desperately after things that remain unreachable. Feeling stuck in his position, failing again and again, feeling useless. Trying even harder. Restless, restless, restless.
A bit like a tiger in a safe house cage, a bit like a dog racing after a fake lure.
So...how could Vegas ever just sleep like a normal person?
#long story short: I have a Vegas is an insomniac headcanon - at least before Pete chooses to stay by his side#oh man looking at my posts from this weekend made me realise: Bible's Wan(der) Day made me think A LOT about Vegas 😂#I just miss everyone's favourite pathetic meow meow 🥺#anyways: I feel like there's still so much to explore within the visual language and storytelling of KinnPorsche#and that makes me very happy#kinnporche the series#kinnporsche meta#random kinnporsche thoughts#vegas theerapanyakul#because the kinnporsche brain rot is still real#I SHOULD BE ALREADY SLEEPING BY THE WAY
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Hey, so eps 13 and 14 basically told us that Korn was head of the main mafia family for only like 16 years, right?
I.e., Porsche and Chay’s dad was killed ~17 years ago - Chay was a baby, who looked to be between 6 and 12 months, and he’s ~18 in the series. And we know Grandpa Theerapanyakul was still head of the mafia then because he was the one who (apparently) ordered Korn and Gun to confront him.
So, Korn could have become head, at most, 17 years ago, and then he (semi) stepped down to make Kinn acting head at the start of the season…
I just find it interesting to compare that with Kinn’s experience - we don’t get either of their exact ages in the series, but Kinn’s probably a few years older than Porsche and Tankuhn’s a few years older than Kinn… so, that would mean Korn took over as head when he was old enough to have a pre-teen/teen son (mid to late 30s?), while Kinn’s starting about a decade earlier…
Idk, it just makes it clearer to me just how young Kinn (and now Porsche too) is for this job…
#kinnporsche#random thoughts#kinnporsche meta#(I guess)#korn#gun#kinn#porsche#chay#it also messes me up to think that nampheung’s been locked away for so long#like that requires no extra thought to figure out#it just makes me sad to think about
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On Kinnporsche, humour and the fragmentation of the self
A lot of people have found jarring the tonal shifts in Kinnporsche and have found the comedic moments out of context.
I would like to put forward the notion that what Kinnporsche is really asking us to see for the most part in those scenes is the humour and not the comedy.
A little preface, I am using these terms based on the meaning given by Italian writer Luigi Pirandello in his essay "On humour".
He defines comedy as the "perception of the opposite", what we find funny at first glance, the first layer of interpretation; humour is instead the "feeling of the opposite", when we dig under and understand the deeper reasons for why a character is acting in that peculiar way. (You can find at the end of this post his example, it is the best way to understand what I mean)
This requires an effort in the part of the audience to use their empathy and critical analysis to perceive the reality underneath the surface and functions in highlitghing the contrast between what is perceived at first and the underlying reasons. It should leave the audience feeling a sour taste in their mouths.
Pirandello proposes that "comedy and its opposite lie in the same disposition of feeling"; this means that comedy and tragedy are the two faces of the same coin.
Porsche is the one of the characters who is often portrayed in this kind of humouristic way. The most glaring examples are
- the whole episode 2 sheningans
- the whole fear of ghosts in episode 8
- the seduction scene in episode 9
- the boyfriend reveal/the bodyguard replacement in episode 11
All these scenes are used for laughs if we interpret them at face value, but if we delve deeper in the narrative these are the moments where Porsche is feeling insecure, where his feelings are obfuscated and not really clear even to him.
These are all moments that if we, the audience, exercise our empathy we can pass from the perception of the opposite(the comedy) to the feeling of the opposite(the humour) and the contrast that is created is bittersweet and disorienting
What the audience needs to do is shift their stance in regards to the scene/the character, this way they will find that while it’s the comedy that conceals it is the humour that reveals (if you look deep enough to get to humour)
Because we already have the knowledge of the character, it is our responsibility to use empathy and perceive the underlying reasons beyond it
We should really move beyond the superficial impulse to laugh because, if the character has the required depth(here I would argue Porsche has it), and we use our critical analysis(that does depend on the individual), we will begin to see what a narrative that is essentially smoke and mirrors is hiding.
Also, and I know this will test the unfortunate souls who are still reading this post but bear with me a little more. Pirandello's conclusion in his essay is that what humour reveals is the fragmentation of the self. And again, I would argue that this is Porsche's case. Porsche's whole self is fragmented because he has lost his sense of self identity and he has not yet regained it.
Right now who is Porsche really? Is he the brother? The boyfriend? The bodyguard? The lover? How does he think of himself? Has he made peace with what he has become? How is he perceived by others? Does everyone see him as he is or as what they want him to be?
The answer to these questions remains yet to be seen, and so the only way forward is humour for him.
“I see an old lady whose hair is dyed and completely smeared with some kind of horrible ointment; she is all made-up in a clumsy and awkward fashion and is all dolled-up like a young girl. I begin to laugh; I perceive that she is the opposite of what a respectable old lady should be. Now I could stop here at this initial and superficial comic reaction: the comic consists precisely of this perception of the opposite. But if, at this point, reflection intervenes to suggest that perhaps this old lady finds no pleasure in dressing up like an exotic parrot, and that perhaps she is distressed by it and does it only because she pitifully deceives herself into believing that, by making herself up like that and by concealing her wrinkles and gray hair, she may be able to hold the love of her much younger husband–if reflection comes to suggest all this, then I can no longer laugh at her as I did at first, exactly because the inner working of reflection has made me go beyond, or rather enter deeper into, the initial stage of awareness: from the beginning perception of the opposite, reflection has made me shift to a feeling of the opposite. And herein lies the precise difference between the comic and humoristic.”
#kinnporsche#this is a monstrosity#a wild ride#kudos to whoever manages to finish it#random thoughts that won't leave me alone
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Random thoughts on episode 7:
- Congrats to Big for finally being free of that cast.
- Those little sounds that Porchay was making in front of Kim are actually so accurate.
- Welcome back, Kimlock Holmes/ Detective Wikachu. It's your turn to be clowned. I really want to know what exactly is the point of Kim's board.
- How is Kim worse than Tankhun or Kinn, as described by Pete in episode 1? Kinn is supposed to be the most normal of the 3, but the jury is still out on that.
- Another sad week without Tankhun and Deutsche Bank. I love the brothers, but Tankhun's my favourite.
- I would actually love to read meta specifically on the architecture of the buildings used. I feel like there's something there, but I don't quite know what.
- The bodyguards' dressing and even demeanour of the minor family's is so different from those of the main family's. They feel a lot more like hoodlums than trained professionals.
- When will Kim and Kinn, or even the 3 brothers, be seen together?!
- I really thought this would be the episode that Pete would get acquainted with that dungeon and was greatly relieved it was not.
- So Arm and Pete were sent there on a second mission - to keep an eye on and report Porsche's actions to Kinn? It makes sense, but also, that level of detail? Pete's been paying attention to Tankhun's kdrama watching after all.
- My mind is so borked from that last scene, I'm surprised I'm actually writing sentences now. Actually jaw dropping.
And 1 thought on episode 8:
- Welcome back to my screen, Na Naphat! I can't believe Perth was going to play Tawan in the earlier version of the show.
#kinnporsche#kinnporsche the series#kinnporsche spoilers#kinnporsche random thoughts#i really made this post to say kimlock holmes and detective wikachu#kimlock holmes#detective wikachu#kp less thinky thoughts
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@aayuthaezhuthu
Nini, this is what I was talking about.
Imagine Porsche wearing a pair of payal for his cute little date with Kinn...he wears the ones with small ghongroos that make a soft airy sound when he walks...porsche wears socks and shoes so his payal is kept in place and doesn't really get to jingle the entire day on the date
but here...when they're back home...they remove their shoes and are walking around the big quiet house...and he's barefoot and his payal chimes with every step....kinn lifts porsche's pants to inspect the source of this sweet sound and finds porsche wearing a thin silver set of payal (it has meena work on it) with tiny round ghungroos dangling on the inside of the ankles...kinn bends down and kisses porsche's ankles and they continue to walk around the house...kinn listening to porsche's musical footsteps as they walk towards the golden lights curtain
and then
they run to escape being caught...porsche's payal betraying them and filling the quiet air with the clues of their hideout...as if porsche's payal protests against hiding this beautiful love...as if it wants to proudly declare where it has been and all the places it will go next...there's something so romantic and sensual listening to porsche's payal being unabashedly loud (but also soft) as he runs that kinn just cannot handle all these emotions inside his chest....if porsche freed his payal for kinn then kinn would free his heart for porsche
and this is how we get this kinn
so utterly in love
#kinnporsche#kinnporsche the series#kinnporsche la forte#porsche pachara#kinn theerapanyakul#apo nattawin#mile phakphum#nini...babe...idk what this is and where this went lol but i clearly have too many emotions regarding porsche wearing payal#thank you for putting this in my brain....fuck you (endearing)#this was too much for chat so i thought i'd make a post#this is the sweet and loving version#i have a dirty version too 😏#@ people who might not know what payal is..i urge you to research it and if possible buy yourself a pair if it is available near you#(i wore payal during my master's actually! random fyi)
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Random kp thought of the day: I think Ken is the mole for no better reason than that he’s played by Perth and we’ve seen basically NOTHING of him. Why hire Perth for 2sec’s of Australian accent?? Ken is chillin in the wings, waiting to play a bigger part.
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I don’t think it’s too much of an exaggeration when I say I’m OBSESSED with pretty much every character in Kinnporsche. Like omg. Bro I’m thinking about this show 24/7. But I’m especially loving the anti-Porsche duo Big and Ken. I really need more of them lmao
#sorry Porsche:((#i stg I love Porsche but Ken and Big are just so funny to me#i also can’t wait for more Chay and Kim!!#ugh just this entire show will be the death of me#and I’m ok with that#kinnporsche#kinnporsche the series#kinnporsche ken#idk how to tag#and too lazy#god these are such random thoughts but whatever
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Okay, I think I understand why the bathroom scene at the end of episode 7 has me so undone. We see Kinn and Porsche growing in intimacy over the course of the series. But there's just something about that bathroom scene that hits differently. It's not just the tenderness (Kinn basically falling apart) or the ridiculous hotness (will we ever forget Porsche's hip and flank, jfc?). It's not even the explicitness (I read and watch pretty explicit content on the regular).
It's because Kinn and Porsche are exchanging something very personal. They are so in sync, so wrapped up in each other, communicating unspoken emotion in every possible way that the outside world has been crowded out. Bodyguards, partiers, even the viewer. Especially the viewer. In that moment, I am a voyeur, intruding on an intensely intimate moment and I want nothing more than to close my eyes, excuse myself, and back my way out slowly from the room. Kinn and Porsche aren't just having sex, or sharing physical pleasure. They are having a moment and I am extraneous and unnecessary to that moment. The 4th wall doesn't exist in that scene because there is no audience. It's just them and we just happen to show up. But it's all good, because they don't even know we are there.
To be able to convey that feeling to the viewer is so freaking brilliant. I'm still boggled by it.
#random thoughts#the bathroom scene#i need to be quiet now#and go be an adult#but i can't stop thinking about this scene#and every scene in this episode tbh#it's just so damned good#kinnporsche#kinnporsche the series#kinnporsche meta#episode 7
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