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nightswatchdisbandmentera · 2 months

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The thing about Jon that a lot of people forget is that he is actually a rather well known figure all around Westeros. I don’t think it’s incorrect to say that he’s Ned’s most famous kid by a large margin, and perhaps even one of the more famous teens in Westeros; especially now that he has become Lord Commander of the Night’s Watch and his reputation has began to stretch to a different continent. Because of his very unusual origin - being honorable Ned Stark’s bastard son by an unknown woman - his name has been passed around in noble houses across the entire continent. He’s not some random kid from the North that no one has heard of. The majority of people may not have seen him, but they have at the very least heard of him.

I bring this up because people tend to act as if Jon would be automatically scoffed away by just about everyone if his true parentage ever came to light. After all, they say, why would anyone believe that some random kid from the north is a Targaryen prince? But this is not really true. Jon is not a random kid. His father was one of the most powerful men in the entire land. And not only that, but Ned’s reputation as an honorable man with no fault ensured that the scandal of begetting a bastard was known by everyone who is someone. The thing is, readers tend to ignore a very large gaping hole in the story when it comes to public perception of Jon’s parentage. People all over Westeros have been talking about Ned and his bastard, but no one can agree on the mother - this is actually important!

Most people would not have questioned Ned to his face, but they too want to know who Jon’s mother was, even if it’s just for a little bit of gossip among nobles. Jon’s parentage is a mysterious puzzle that a lot of people have tried to solve themselves. Catelyn hears one answer in Winterfell, but Davos hears another on his way to White Harbor. Edric Dayne from Dorne says a different name to Arya, while Cersei and Robert (who both live in KL) hear different things. That there’s so much variation all around Westeros is actually proof that a lot of people are talking about this one issue. And Ned’s refusal to name a woman may actually end up having unexpected consequences when someone finally mentions the name “Lyanna Stark”.

So I would like to push back on the belief that no one in Westeros would care about the R+L=J reveal or that they would immediately write Jon off. GRRM deciding to keep Jon’s mother an in universe mystery that is the topic of constant conversation will have major payoff. While I could see some being incredulous, it’s absolutely not a foregone conclusion that most people will choose not to believe it. And it’s not a foregone conclusion that this reveal will only matter to the Stark kids and no one else. Sure GRRM is playing with fantasy tropes, and Jon squarely falls under the hidden prince/king. But something that makes Jon quite different from a lot of his genre counterparts is that he’s not an unknown figure who shows up at the last minute to claim the crown. Jon is not an unknown entity. He is well known, it’s just that very few people have dared to think too deeply about the very large elephant in the room regarding his origin. But I’d imagine that if R+L=J was to be revealed, it wouldn’t be too shocking for a lot of people. It’s not so far fetched that honorable Ned Stark actually chose to protect his sister’s son.

And in regards to GRRM playing with fantasy tropes, Young Griff always comes up in conversation as Jon’s foil. People say that he will be the one to be believed because he looks the part of a Targaryen, whereas a random kid from the North won’t be believed because of his brown hair and grey eyes. Jon doesn’t look like some random unrecognizable Northman. He very specifically looks like a Stark! And anyway, is Jon’s story - that Ned took him in after his sister died and raised him as his own under the protective banner of House Stark - any less believable than Young Griff’s - that Varys had the foresight to save him and whisk him off to Essos before the Mountain bashed his head in? Until now, people have never heard of Young Griff so they’ve never had the opportunity to ruminate over and gossip about his origin story. But they know Jon. And they know about Rhaegar and Lyanna. And Jon looking so very undeniably like a Stark (like Lyanna Stark!) could perhaps work in his favor.

#jon snow #asoiaf #valyrianscrolls #r plus l equals j #my stuff #early morning rambling but oh well

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goodqueenaly · 5 months

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Is Jon recognisable as Rhaegar’s son? Ned hid him away when Robert visited and didn’t want to take him to court. Is it just paranoia or could someone who knew Rhaegar look at Jon and figure it out?

Ned doesn’t want anyone prying into Jon’s origins. We see this in Catelyn’s memory, where her mere mention of the Ashara Dayne rumors prompts a coldly furious reaction from Ned and the immediate shutdown of any talk on Jon’s mother within Winterfell. We see this again with Ned and Robert, where Ned responds to Robert’s jovial interest about Jon’s mother with at first flat coolness and then angry refusal to provide any further details. The less said or asked about Jon, in Ned’s mind, the better.

I don’t think we as readers should fall into the trap of reader presentism, where we think every character automatically knows what we as readers know; in fact, it’s a point I’ve made before as to why more, indeed most, characters don’t know about R+L=J. Yet Jon doesn’t have to be so openly and obviously Rhaegar and Lyanna’s biological son for Ned to worry about other characters scrutinizing the backstory Ned has very carefully created for Jon. Not only did Ned almost certainly promise Lyanna at least to keep baby Jon safe, but Jon’s biological identity is a massive potential bombshell, capable of shattering personal and political relationships on a continental scale. However slim the possibility that someone starts asking difficult probing questions about Jon’s origins - and rumors about those origins definitely exist, as we see when Cersei throws the Ashara Dayne story in Ned’s face and Godric Borrell tells the fisherman’s daughter story to Davos - the possibility exists, and that’s a risk Ned doesn’t want to run. The easiest way to prevent anyone even approaching the idea that Jon might not have been biologically fathered by Ned is to refuse to address the subject at all - to maintain the simple, detail-scarce official story, and to keep Jon’s person away from anyone whose curiosity might be piqued by his presence,

#asoiaf meta #r plus l equals j #jon snow #eddard stark

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azucarera-art · 2 years

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I bet baby Jon gave Ned regularly scheduled heart attacks just by doing normal baby things.

Jon: *cuddles a red & black blankie instead of a grey one*

Ned, sweating & suffering from indigestion: oh gods his father's side is showing does anyone suspect anything???

#ned writing on a pad of sticky parchment: keep baby away from open flame #cat is concerned for her hubby's intelligence bcoz fucking DUH u better keep babies away from fire #robb & jon playing the young dragon vs the dragonknight while ned 'supervises'#and by 'supervise' i mean shaking & trying to calm his blood pressure #game of thrones #dem thrones #asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #jon snow #ned stark #eddard stark #r plus l equals j #rhaegar targaryen #lyanna stark

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starkcontrasts · 2 years

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*banging pots and pans* it's about aegon's dragon dream about a song of ice and fire!! it's about aegon flying north and torren stark, last of the winter kings until robb, kneeling and swearing his allegiance!!

*slamming open the cupboards* it's about how, generations later, jacaerys velaryon-targaryen flies north once more to treat with cregan stark!! it's about the pair becoming so close they swore an oath in blood as brothers, likely before the weirwood in a mix of both valyrian and northern ceremonial rites!!

*jumping up and down on the bed* it's about the pact of ice and fire and jace agreeing to marry his firstborn daughter to cregan's heir!! it's about jace dying in the gullet but cregan honoring their oath and seating jace's baby brother on the throne!!

*whispering to the side* it's about jace's dragon vermax being rumoured to have laid a clutch of eggs in the crypts of winterfell and winterfell itself possibly being built upon the body of an ice dragon

*screaming out the windows* it's about jace's great-great-however many greats-great nephew marrying(?) the firstborn daughter of house stark in an inversion of his and cregan's original pact!! it's about jon snow's birth, whether he is or isn't the prince who was promised, still being the culmination of centuries of valyrian and old god magic!!

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buildoblivionthenwewilltalk · 1 year

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first two chapters are up babes! -> (x)

A fun angsty AGOT au where Ned get smuggled out of King’s Landing to Castle Black - I wonder what sort of dramas could go on there 👀👀👀

#also it’s a prequel to dragons cradle - that jonerys-y one shot I posted back in December!#Jon snow #asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #r+l=j #r plus l equals j #fan fic #ao3 #canonjonsnow #dragons cradle au

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seventhwinterwolf · 1 year

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Jon Snow’s Targaryen Name

(I had an anon send in a question about my thoughts on Jon being called Aegon and when I went to reply the site crashed and it was no longer in my inbox... rip)

Short version, I think he would have had a name that started with V, my personal favorite is Viserax or Visenya had Jon turned out to be a woman.

First off, I think Jon as Aegon is dumb given that Rhaegar already had Aegon and Rhaenys with Elia Martell and was hardcore obsessed with prophecy. The dragon has three heads and Aegon the Conqueror and his sister-wives in particular. I think he would have given Jon a V name like Visenya if he had been a girl or maybe Viserys but that is already somewhat taken by Rhaegar’s brother. Other VISE or V names could include Viserra, Vaella, Valarr, Valerion, or made from the long list of Valyrian combos. (Here’s a thorough list of prefixes and suffixes)

I don’t think that Rhaegar would be concerned with Lyanna Stark not being married to him and thus Jon being a bastard. Rhaegar could have planned to legitimize Jon at any point after the war had he survived and assumed the throne. Elia’s difficulty in childbirth was not going to prevent Rhaegar from having another child in his dream of recreating the first King Aegon with Queen Rhaenys and Queen Visenya. Jon being a boy skews this and if Lyanna had lived I could see Rhaegar having another child from her in the hopes of attaining his Visenya.

Furthermore, the show was also stupid to do this knowing that fake Aegon/Young Griff is a thing in the books and one more current-gen Targ being called Aegon is unnecessarily confusing. If the show had named Jon something else closely related like Aemon that would have been slightly better even though it only has meaning in retrospect given Jon’s relationship with Maester Aemon. Better yet, name him Aemond as the younger brother to the next King Aegon to resemble the Dance of the Dragons.

I do like the common trope of Jon having a name starting with J, unfortunately, it’s a limited J list in the canon name histories. Jaehaerys is neat and I am fine with that being Jon’s name. Especially if Rhaegar planned to have more children from Lyanna then Visenya could be next. Jon not being his preferred and ideal daughter could potentially lead Rhaegar to cast him aside to keep going for a girl. In this scenario where Lyanna lives and Rhaegar has more children after his first three then I could see Jon having any Valyrian name that wasn’t already in use by another family member.

List of Alternative Valyrian Names for Jon

Not V or J: Aemond, Aerion, Daemon, or Maekar

Starts with J: Jaehaerys, Jaegal, Jaelys, Jaelyx, Jaehaerax, Jaeraxes, Jaeron, etc

Starts with V: Viserys, Viserax, Valarr, Valerion, Vaelerys/Vhalerys, Vaelyx, Vaelor, etc

My Faves: Viserax, Jaehaerys, Daemon, Aemond, Maekar

#house targaryen #jon snow #r plus l equals j #jon snow is a targaryen #alternative names for jon #targaryen names #jon snow's targ name #asoiaf #game of thrones #house of the dragon #rhaegar targaryen #lyanna stark

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jade-of-summer · 2 years

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After a prophetic dream, Jon Snow leaves his home in Solitude to go home for the first time is 7 years. He returns to Westeros with untold riches, lifelong friends and allies, a family he created for himself, and knowledge and power beyond measure. The Legendary Dragonborn sets out on a new adventure, will it be his last? Or will he be able to save the world once again? For when the night is dark and full of terrors, when Winter comes for them all, so does the Dragonborn, with fire and blood he will protect that which he loves and take what is his.

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lolahauri · 1 month

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: ̗̀➛ Sebastian: Smut Alphabet

A = Aftercare (what they’re like after sex)

Considering he’s the sub/bottom, you’ll probably being doing more of the aftercare.

He does love to hold you till you fall asleep though.

B = Body part (their favorite body part of theirs and also their partner’s)

Besides your hips/waist (fluff alphabet), i think he’d be a tits guy.

Big or small, he loves watching them bounce when your riding him.

C = Cum (anything to do with cum, basically)

Loves cumming on your stomach or inside you.

D = Dirty secret (pretty self explanatory, a dirty secret of theirs)

Lowkey would share you with Sam if you wanted.

He’s kind of a cuck.

E = Experience (how experienced are they? do they know what they’re doing?)

None. You were his first, that’s part of the reason he’s so needy and dtf, he just can’t believe someone as hot as you really wants to fuck him.

(Plus all those years of pent up sexual frustration)

F = Favorite position (this goes without saying)

Cowgirl!

He’s obsessed with you dominating him and taking control.

Mating press.

G = Goofy (are they more serious in the moment? are they humorous? etc.)

Very serious, you won’t ever catch him making a joke.

H = Hair (how well groomed are they? does the carpet match the drapes? etc.)

Darker than his hair and straight.

Keeps it nicely trimmed for you.

I = Intimacy (how are they during the moment? the romantic aspect)

Pretty intimate. I wouldn’t say he’s romantic though.

But he’ll definitely be telling you how good your making him feel, how beautiful you are, feeling up your whole body and worshipping it.

J = Jack off (masturbation headcanon)

When he was single: daily. Either watching porn, or thinking about you.

Now: only when you aren’t in the mood (or if you wanna watch him)

K = Kink (one or more of their kinks)

Breeding, mommy/daddy, femdom, edging, orgasm control, praise, dirty talk, hair pulling, biting, mutual masturbation/watching each other masturbate, dry humping, oral fixation.

L = Location (favorite places to do the do)

Your bed or the couch.

When he was living with his parents: his desk or bed.

Imagine sucking him off or cockwarming him while he’s working.

M = Motivation (what turns them on, gets them going)

Anything about you, really.

He’s pretty easy to arouse.

N = No (something they wouldn’t do, turn offs)

Degrading/verbal humiliation.

O = Oral (preference in giving or receiving, skill, etc.)

Equally loves both.

Cumming down your throat is amazing, but he also loves to serve you and make you feel good.

Honestly once he starts going down on you, he won't stop until you tell him to. He loves it so much.

A lot of times he'll get so horny from it that he'll grind on the bed until he cums.

P = Pace (are they fast and rough? slow and sensual? etc.)

He’s a needy little bitch, so fast and hard.

He fucks like a rabbit in heat.

Q = Quickie (their opinions on quickies, how often, etc.)

Loves them, he’d have one anytime you want.

R = Risk (are they game to experiment? do they take risks? etc.)

Mostly down to experiment, i don’t think he’s into anything extreme or really painful though.

He’d be down for some mild CBT maybe.

Risk wise, he’d def fuck you in the bathhouse locker room.

S = Stamina (how many rounds can they go for? how long do they last?)

He can last quite a while if he’s being edged.

Otherwise he cums a little quick.

But it’s kind of adorable, you just feel so good and look so hot that he can’t help but cum in just a few minutes.

But to make up for his quick finish, he can go multiple rounds.

Would absolutely overstimulate himself until he’s crying if it means he gets to stay inside you.

T = Toys (do they own toys? do they use them? on a partner or themselves?)

He doesn’t own any, but if you had some he’d absolutely use them. (on you or him)

Like…

Vibrators, cock rings, fleshlights, etc...

U = Unfair (how much they like to tease)

He can’t tease, he sucks at it.

But man he loves it when you do it.

Moving past him and “accidently” grinding your ass on his crotch >>

Doing little things throughout the day to turn him on, just to make him wait till that night to get off.

V = Volume (how loud they are, what sounds they make, etc.)

So loud and vocal.

Lots of whines, whimpers, and moans.

Probably a lot of begging too <3

W = Wild card (a random headcanon for the character)

Prefers hentai over "real" porn.

Imagine jerking him off while he’s watching hentai!?

X = X-ray (let’s see what’s going on under those clothes)

About 6.5 inches and average girth, maybe leaning to the thicker side.

A little veiny and curved upwards.

Y = Yearning (how high is their sex drive?)

Semi-high, he’d love to fuck at least once a day, even if it’s just a quickie.

But he’ll happily accommodate to your sex drive, whether it’s lower or higher.

Z = Zzz (how quickly they fall asleep afterwards)

He waits until your ready for bed.

Holds you like a teddy bear as you two fall asleep.

#x reader #smut #smut alphabet #sdv sebastian #sdv sebastian x reader

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ao3feed-tywin · 9 months

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The lioness with black eyes

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/thudYBA

by Elisa98

Au my fanfiction: the girl bastard with purple eyes About a year and a half before the events of the saga begin, Meria Lannister, the legitimate bastard daughter of Jaime Lannister and Dyana Sand cousin of Elia Martell, marries Renly Baratheon. Despite various difficulties, an amicable bond seems to develop between the couple. A woman, however, predicts to Meria the beginning of a war that will devastate and divide the kingdom as well as an imminent motherhood, but Meria pays no heed to the woman's words and even believes her to be mad. Unfortunately, war does break out and Meria finds herself in impossible love and having to do everything in her power to protect herself and the people she loves.

Words: 4374, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English

Series: Part 2 of Meria Lannister

Fandoms: Game of Thrones (TV), A Song of Ice and Fire - George R. R. Martin

Rating: Mature

Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings

Categories: F/M, M/M

Characters: Original Female Character(s), Renly Baratheon, Loras Tyrell, Jaime Lannister, Cersei Lannister, Robb Stark, Catelyn Tully Stark, Sansa Stark, Joffrey Baratheon, Tommen Baratheon, Myrcella Baratheon, Tyrion Lannister, Tywin Lannister, Arya Stark, Bran Stark, Daenerys Targaryen, Brienne of Tarth

Relationships: Robb Stark/Original Female Character(s), Renly Baratheon/Loras Tyrell, Cersei Lannister/Jaime Lannister, Jon Snow/Sansa Stark, Jaime Lannister/Brienne of Tarth, Catelyn Tully Stark/Ned Stark, Renly Baratheon & Original Character(s)

Additional Tags: Maternal Instinct, Adultery, Brother/Sister Incest, Pregnancy, machoism, Girl Power, R Plus L Equals J | Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen are Jon Snow's Parents, Jon Snow is a Targaryen, Jon Snow is Not Called Aegon, Cousin Incest, Jaime Lannister Redemption, Good Parent Jaime Lannister, Minor Elia Martell/Rhaegar Targaryen, Minor Lyanna Stark/Rhaegar Targaryen, Robb Stark is King in the North, Rhaegar Targaryen Being an Idiot, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Alternate Universe - My fanfiction The girl bastard with purple eyes

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/thudYBA

#ao3feed #fanfic #ao3feed tywin #ao3feed tywin lannister

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quobber · 2 years

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Gweter ABCs 😧

A - Attractive (What do they find attractive about each other?)

Everything. Every. Thing. But if they *had* to choose, Gwen loves Peter’s eyes. She’ll often zone out when he’s talking because she’s just staring into his eyes. Peter loves Gwen’s hands. How soft they are, how delicate. He loves holding her hand and will do it whenever he can.

B - Baby (Do they want a family? Why/Why not?)

Maybe one day. Peter wants a daughter, Gwen wants a son. They’re a bit worried that the spider dna will pass onto their kid(s.) Plus with all the villains it would just put a huge target on their back. So for now they’re okay just the two of them.

C - Cuddles (How do they cuddle?)

Usually facing each other, foreheads resting together. Or Gwen lays on Peter’s chest. They don’t spoon that much, but its a 50/50 who’s big spoon and who’s little spoon.

D - Dreams (What do they hope for in the future?)

To just have a normal life. They just want to grow old together and not have to worry about the villains.

E - Equal (Are they the dominant one in the relationship, or rather passive?)

Both of them are really stubborn (see F - Fights), so they’re both pretty dominant in the relationship. Peter gives in more than Gwen.

F - Fights (What do they fight about? How do they react?)

Like I said, they’re both so stubborn. Both of them refuse to change their view on something and it leads to an argument. It doesn’t really happen that often though, they know each other enough to tell when the other is getting upset and they step away.

G - Gentle (Are they gentle?)

Both of them are. Soft kisses, hand holding, cuddling, its all very gentle.

H - Hands (How do they express themselves through touch?)

If Peter gets nervous (which is often) he takes Gwen’s hand and rubs circles on it with his thumb. Just a little thing that helps calm his nerves. He’s also very physically affectionate, hugging her and kissing her every chance he gets.

I - Insecurity (What are they insecure about?)

Peter’s very insecure about everything in general, he gets embarrassed easily. Mostly his personality though. He thinks he’s a loser or he isn’t cool.

Gwen’s insecure about her work. She’s really scared of not being smart enough or not doing well.

J - Jealousy (Do they get jealous?)

Peter gets jealous really easily, yes. Gwen does too but not as much.

K - Kiss (How do they like to kiss each other?)

They kiss a lot. Nothing too nsfw just kind of slow kissing. Peter kisses Gwen on the head a lot

L - Love (When did they know they were in love?)

Peter- When Gwen asked his name in class

Gwen- When Peter kissed her on the roof

M - Memory (What are their favorite memories of each other?)

Peter’s favourite memory of Gwen is the whole chocolate house thing. He thought it was adorable. Still talks about it.

Gwen’s favourite memory of Peter is the “I love you” bridge and his speech to her after.

N - Nicknames (What do they call each other?)

Peter’s nicknames for Gwen- Gwendy, honey, love, pretty lady, gorgeous, sometimes baby

Gwen’s nicknames for Peter- Bug boy, Pete, Spidey

O - Ode (Do they have a way with words?)

Peter does sometimes. Because there’s the bridge scene where he’s just flowing poetry and the sweetest things you’ve ever heard. But also when he first asked Gwen out it was so bad.

Gwen’s very well-spoken, she only ever gets flustered and stumbles over her words around Peter.

P - PDA (Are they upfront about their relationship? Or are they rather shy when others are watching?)

In public they hold hands, maybe a quick kiss. They’re openly a couple but aren’t super touchy in public.

Q - Quirks (What random habit or ability do they have that makes the relationship better?)

webs. 😛

R - Romance (Are they a hopeless romantic? Are their romantic gestures creative or cliche?)

all of the above. Peter does more romantic gestures than Gwen, he just constantly wants to remind her how much he loves her.

S - Sad (What do they do when their partner cries?)

Peter lets Gwen cry, he doesn’t try to push her to calm down. He’ll hold her and wipe her tears and kiss her and just tell her that it’s gonna be okay, that he’s here for her, and most of all he loves her.

Gwen holds Peter’s hand and talks him through it. Peter gets really worried and worked up, Gwen helps him through the anxiety. She reminds him that she’s there and everything’s okay. She’ll also run her hand through his hair.

T - Thrill (Do they like to try new things in the relationship or stick to a routine?)

There is no routine in their relationship. So yeah, they’ll try new things.

U - Understanding (Are they empathetic, or do they have trouble figuring each other out?)

They’re mostly understanding, but two things stick out. For Peter, it’s why Gwen works so much. He doesn’t understand it. And for Gwen it’s how Peter worries all the time. She comforts him through it and never gets upset, but she just doesn’t understand why he’s so worried. All. The. Time.

V - Vaunt (Is there anything they’re proud of that drives the other crazy?)

Not really? Gwen still teases Peter about being second at midtown tho

X - XXX (How often do they have sex? Are they kinky or vanilla?)

They have sex maybe once a week? Sometimes more. But with how much Gwen works and Peter patrolling at night it’s hard to find time. And they’re not vanilla.

Y - Yearning (How do they deal with being apart from each other?)

They talk on the phone all the time. And look at pictures of each other.

Z - Zeal (What lengths are they willing to go to for their relationship?)

They will go to the ends of the earth for each other. Literally. There is nothing they won’t do for each other.

#gweter #tasm #gwen stacy #peter parker #tasm 2 #andrew garfield #gwen x peter #comics #marvel #peter x gwen #spider man #petergwen #emma stone #marvel comics #mcu #spider gwen

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nightswatchdisbandmentera · 2 months

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That Ned’s ghost and bones are in a constant state of restlessness after his death is so interesting to me. We haven’t heard much of Ned’s bones after Lady Catelyn sent Hallis Mollen north with them, but then Barbrey Dustin in ADWD says that she intends to block them from reaching Winterfell, and the reason for doing so is tied around her husband dying at the Tower of Joy and not returning home.

But what is more revealing is immediately after his death, Ned’s ghost gets to the crypts and wanders about restlessly, which is felt by the three Stark boys who have the power of prophetic dreams: Jon who constantly looks for his father in this “underworld” is pulled into searching for Ned before his execution, Rickon is called to the crypts and has a mysterious conversation with Ned where he promises to come back (but how will he be back if he’s dead?), and then there’s Bran who gets to have a more substantial conversation with his dead father’s ghost as he speaks sadly about Jon.

We know that even before death, Ned was surrounded by a sense of guilt and shame because of Jon, and he even expressed a deep desire to speak with the boy. Accounting for all these, it starts to look like Ned’s restlessness, dead or alive, is deeply rooted in the secret of Jon’s parentage and can only be alleviated once he confronts Jon about this truth. That might explain why Jon is constantly looking for Ned in the crypts and why he’s afraid of what he might find down there (and not who). So perhaps Ned’s bones can only be laid to rest once his ghost sets things right with Jon.

#asoiaf #r plus l equals j #eddard stark #jon snow #i have like a lot of thoughts regarding rlj jon ned and the crypts #thematically it makes the most sense for ned to reveal jon’s parentage there and im working on a meta explaining my reasoning #but I just had to take a lil detour and talk about his ghost and bones not knowing peace because of jon #valyrianscrolls

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goodqueenaly · 1 year

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What’s your best guess to what Jon’s being foreshadowed to find in the Winterfell crypts?

No more and no less than the truth about his parentage.

In Jon's dreams, the crypts of Winterfell seem to consistently symbolize the liminal position Jon has occupied within the Stark family. The crypts are a place where Jon does not belong, not only in his own mind but in the opinion (so far as the word can be used, perhaps) of the stone Stark kings there with him. After all, as Jon himself recounts to Sam, "I scream that I'm not a Stark, that this isn't my place", while in a later dream the stone kings "mutter" that Jon is "no Stark" and that there "is no place for [him] here [i.e. in the crypts]". Yet Jon continually finds that he cannot refuse the unspoken call of the crypts: although he tells Sam about his dream-self's reluctance to proceed, as he is "afraid of what might be waiting for [him]", he always descends into the crypts anyway. In this very, indeed exclusively, Stark place, where Jon seems to not belong, there is nevertheless something - or, rather, someone - Jon has to find.

This conflict in Jon's dreams perfectly echoes Jon's still somewhat unconscious dynastic struggle. While Jon certainly knows - or, rather, believes - that he is the son of Lord Eddard Stark, and has grappled with the possibilities of claiming or asserting power in the name of his ostensible father, he is as yet unaware that Robb's will legitimated him, Jon, and named him heir presumptive to Robb's North-Riverlands kingdom. Jon's (assumed) paternal identity had been central to Robb's decision: he had asserted to Catelyn that "[m]y father had four sons", and when Catelyn shot back that "[a] Snow is not a Stark", Robb countered that Jon was "more a Stark than" his great-grandaunt Jocelyn's descendants in the Vale. Yet what Robb did not know, and of course could not have known, was that Jon was no (biological) son of Eddard Stark, but the (again. biological) son of the late Prince of Dragonstone by Ned's sister. So while Jon may have been named a Stark (and by a Stark king), he is by birth not just not a Stark, but in fact a Targaryen (or, at least, the son of a Targaryen father); now, though again he does not know it yet, Jon has both a claim to a Stark kingdom (and a Stark name) and the heritage of his non-Stark paternal ancestors.

So I believe that these dreams not only embody this conflict but foreshadow the resolution of it. Jon's dream-self saw the tombs of the dead Stark kings, but never reached the tomb most important to him personally - that is, the statue of his mother Lyanna. She is the connection Jon must discover between himself and the Starks, the Stark daughter who gave birth to him; he is no Stark by (patrilineal) name, but a scion of the family nevertheless. Just as Ned himself dreamed of finding Lyanna's tomb in the crypts and remembering the promise he made to her, and just as Bran dreamt of meeting his father in the crypts and discussing "something to do about Jon", so Jon's crypt dreams seem to suggest that the truth of Jon's parentage lies (literally as well as figuratively) in the crypts of Winterfell. (And is it coincidental that in virtually all instances of this dream, Jon recounts searching in vain for his "father", little knowing that his Targaryen biological father is the one with no place among the tombs of the Stark kings?)

To be clear, it's not that I think there is some kind of physical secret message in the tomb (much less something as ludicrous as a physical object representing some kind of secret message). Rather, what I imagine is that the crypts will be the setting for Jon to hear about and really learn the identities of his biological parents. Maybe Howland Reed (who undoubtedly knows and has been tantalizingly left alive but so far off page) tells him here, or maybe Bran (who has already seen two teasing references to Jon's true parentage, and has access to see even more via the weirwood time-space network) will reveal the truth to Jon here, or maybe even both; the point is that I think someone will fill Jon in as he is in the crypts (neatly bookending Eddard's first chapter the series, as he and Robert visited Lyanna's tomb and Ned remembered both her and Rhaegar).

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“Oh.”

Her surprised sound made his heart skip a beat. Had there ever been a voice as sweet as that of his lady wife?

Through the corner of his eye he saw he she glanced up at him before once more turning her eyes to what she was holding.

“I kept my letter from you, as well” she said slowly.

Only then did he realise what he had placed in that drawer. Why hadn’t he kept it in his chamber instead? Why had he put it where she could find it? Why had he kept it and brought it with him to Winterfell at all?

“I didn’t bring it here, but your words are safe in Riverrun’s archives” she continued. “People a hundred years from now will be able to read about how Lord Stark missed his lady.”

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Though after an eternity he reached the Starks he came to visit. Starks he knew so well it ached in him to look upon their statues. His father, his sister and his older brother. People he had loved dearly and that he could no longer love as he once had. Dead, gone, nothing but statues.

Ned put his lamp down on the floor before he walked over to stand in front of Lyanna. He leaned down and placed the flowers by her feet, then backed away a few steps. He couldn’t stand to be any closer to her.

She had been so full of life, Brandon had been so full of life. Though there was no life left, they were resting in the crypts, and their eyes of stone guarded the darkness. It was all wrong, in some way twisted. The gods had misunderstood, Lyanna and Brandon were supposed to be alive.

They would have been alive if it hadn’t been for what Ned had done. Lyanna had longed for knowing what the prince wanted, for freedom to do as she pleased instead of marrying Robert. Knowing of Ned’s betrayal might have driven her away. He hadn’t had time to ask her, hadn’t had time to say anything but a short promise, but in his heart he knew. She had heard him tell her to resist the want, then she had seen him do nothing to resist his own want. With her own eyes she had seen him defy everything that was right.

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The Northern Prince and The Princess of Dragonstone

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by DungeonsAndDAAAAAMN

Prince Rhaegar Targaryen wins his duel with Robert Baratheon, But the Battle of the Trident is so bloody that both sides camp together to heal the wounded, while the leaders discuss peace. Rumor reaches both Kings Landing and Casterly Rock that both Robert and Rhaegar are dead, and Tywin Lannister Marches his armies to the Capital. And while the greatest storm in living memory is raging in Blackwater bay a new princess is born on Dragonstone.

Words: 2107, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English

Fandoms: A Song of Ice and Fire - George R. R. Martin

Rating: Explicit

Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death

Categories: F/F, F/M

Characters: Jon Snow, Daenerys Targaryen, Rhaegar Targaryen, Ned Stark, Catelyn Tully Stark, Robb Stark, Sansa Stark, Arya Stark, Bran Stark, Jaime Lannister, Margaery Tyrell, Robert Baratheon, Tyrion Lannister, Varys (A Song of Ice and Fire), Tywin Lannister, Cersei Lannister, Brienne of Tarth, Aerys II Targaryen

Relationships: Jon Snow/Daenerys Targaryen, Lyanna Stark/Rhaegar Targaryen, Elia Martell/Rhaegar Targaryen, Catelyn Tully Stark/Ned Stark, Daenerys Targaryen/Margaery Tyrell, Jaime Lannister/Brienne of Tarth

Additional Tags: R Plus L Equals J | Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen are Jon Snow's Parents, Dead Robert Baratheon, Rhaegar Targaryen Lives, King Rhaegar Targaryen, Ned Stark Steals Infant Jon Snow, Protective Ned Stark, Jon Snow is Not Called Aegon, Dragons, Eventual Jon Snow/Daenerys Targaryen, BAMF Daenerys Targaryen, Sub Jon Snow, Eventual Smut, Eventual Romance, Tournaments, Arranged Marriage, Past Cersei Lannister/Jaime Lannister, Jaime Lannister Redemption, Jaime Lannister Needs a Hug, Protective Jaime Lannister, Tywin Lannister Being Tywin Lannister, No White Walkers (A Song of Ice and Fire), Time Skips, Jon Snow is called Jaehaerys, Attempted Sexual Assault, Murder, Viserys Targaryen (Brother of Daenerys) Bashing, Abusive Viserys Targaryen (Brother of Daenerys), The Battle of the Trident, Tower of Joy (A Song of Ice and Fire), Valyrian Steel Swords (A Song of Ice and Fire), Valyrian Culture & Customs (A Song of Ice and Fire), Aunt/Nephew Incest, Rhaella Targaryen (Wife of Aerys II) Lives

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The Seeds We Sow.

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by 1_800_CLOWNSTREET

Words: 312, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English

Fandoms: Game of Thrones (TV), A Song of Ice and Fire & Related Fandoms

Rating: Mature

Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death, Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings

Categories: F/F, F/M, Gen, M/M, Multi, Other

Characters: Original Characters, Tywin Lannister, Tyrion Lannister, Jaime Lannister, Cersei Lannister, Genna Lannister, Cleos Frey, Lyonel Frey, Tion Frey, "Red" Walder Frey, Joffrey Baratheon, Tommen Baratheon, Myrcella Baratheon, Robert Baratheon, Varys (A Song of Ice and Fire), Jeyne Darry, Willem Darry, Tywin Frey, Oberyn Martell, Arianne Martell, Petyr Baelish

Relationships: Gregor Clegane/Original Character(s), Sandor Clegane/Original Female Character(s), Joffrey Baratheon/Sansa Stark, Joffrey Baratheon/Margaery Tyrell, Petyr Baelish/Sansa Stark, Tormund Giantsbane/Original Character(s), Euron Greyjoy/Original Character(s)

Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Canon-Typical Violence, Canon-Typical Behavior, Eventual Relationships, Eventual Romance, Slow Burn, R Plus L Equals J | Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen are Jon Snow's Parents, Past Cersei Lannister/Jaime Lannister, Jaime Lannister Redemption, Tyrion Lannister is Hand of the King | Hand of the Queen, Original Character-centric, LGBTQ Themes, Book-Canon Euron Greyjoy

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