"Seofon, about…Ceodric", bits and pieces had made its way to them, word of mouth and jumbled rumors. They weren't asking for the full conversation, nor for him to divulge what went wrong, there was simply something that resembled another's warning, a memory residing at the back of their mind ('You’ve gained too much influence.'). "Have you thought about it?" there's no hesitation, nor is there anything hinting that they were looking to question him, instead, behind their determined gaze they find themself wavering. They held no regrets for the choices they had made that led them to this point, but going forward…what was the future for them? For him? (ps i cant rmbr just What gran knows about it & i cant dedicate myself to check rn so. teehee. assume i wrote whatever canon actually said heart emoji
Ceodric was the type of person Seofon hated most. Someone who had allowed power to get to his head- something Seofon knew that he was just as prone to (because the proof was there, wasn't it? In the voice that spoke to him far too often- He would not become that person. For the sake of the skies, for their sake) and something he hoped that Gran would never have to truly worry about.
For all their power, they certainly didn't act like it was theirs- more that they shared it with those who they surrounded themselves with. A true leader if he'd ever seen one.
Gran hadn't been there to witness Ceodric's fall, and that was for the best. They were busy dealing with whatever backlash they'd suffered from that ultimate power (something that Seofon hadn't ever reached, and if he was honest with himself, he was okay never knowing what it was like. Maybe that's what made his other self become so ... eugh.)
❝ Ceodric? He's gone, now. ❞
It's solemn, there's a tension that hangs in the air. Seofon doesn't exactly know how to describe exactly what happened to Gran. Maybe it was for the best that Gran didn't know everything.
❝ We don't have to worry about him. You know, I did try my best, though. You win some, you lose some. ❞ There it is, that lighthearted nature, the front he put up to make sure Gran was at ease, because Gran didn't need more things to worry about. Plus, things were starting to settle, weren't they? Things had always worked out in the past, so why wouldn't this be the same?
Sure. Okay. Seofon could at the very least try to think like that, but it had been an entire year since Gran had been sick, since Orlogia and the Six Dragons had come along. Since the other Seofon had made his home somewhere in the back of his mind.
Things work out. Yeah.
❝ Hey, if you're looking to the future, just make sure the one you're looking at is one full of hope. Don't lose sight of your goals, and it will be easy sailing. And if it isn't, I'll be here whenever you need me. ❞
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okay just bear with me for a second here. i do believe that it's honestly naive at best, thoughtlessly harmful at best to try and justify gary. "oh but telemaco, it's just just a videogame character" "oh but he's just a teenager" "oh but he's mentally ill" i know i said bear with me for a reason so here's the thing.
first of all, yes, everything you said is right. he is a fictional character- but i'm leaving that aside because i need this for a later argument; yes, he is a mentally ill teenager. at the end of the day, the entire point of gary's character is what happens when a society neglects its children, leaving them without a proper support system in their developmental years and to what destructive and self-destructive tendencies it can lead. it is disheartening and horrible to see people just claim that he's a crazy piece of shit or whatever else. that is in fact offensive and really fucking ableist.
but! you're also not being a justice paladin by trying and defending him and trying to say that actually he didn't mean what he did and that he was demonized in the game and so forth. like. a: who wasn't demonized among the antagonists, really? i could go lengths about the way each antagonist was depicted in a tendentially negative way. that's because we see the game from jimmy's perspective, so of course also gary in particular would be the most evil one. but really, when you go through gary's character lines and so forth there are a lot of signs of the way his instability brought him there. want me to make examples? "but i never did anything to you" "you would've, if i had given you the chance!" / "you're sad, man!" "i might be sad, but i rule your world, moron!" / the entire scene in the hole where gary believes what he's saying about jimmy. not to mention all the voice lines not in the cutscenes. i'm no therapist so i'm not trying to give diagnoses, but there are signs of heavy paranoia, perhaps even mania? and it's all there, for you, the player, to catch upon. yes, there are players who did not pick them up or just use them to demonize gary- but that is the toxic fanbase, not the game in itself.
b: by dismissing what he did, you are also dismissing all the harm he caused to other kids; jimmy and pete in primis, and the entire rest of the school after. yes, we already asserted gary's motivations. but this doesn't change the fact that he took advantage of pete's lack of confidence to use him as an emotional crutch to have someone who wouldn't betray him by his side, and be able to torment him for his fun. is the halloween costume really vile? yes, but it is coherent. kids who make jokes about nazis exist, there have been episodes in my country of kids being suspended from their school for singing the fascist hymn and whatnot. he took advantage of tad's, johnny's, everyone's insecurities to retort them all against jimmy. that is a thing he did and the actual gear of the game. spoiler for your life: mentally ill kids can cause harm to other kids, and just because they did it because of their mental illness it does not reduce the harm that they did, nor does it excuse them because they're just children. do you think i wasn't traumatized by bullies and classmates just because they were kids too? think again.
c: this is very sensitive of a point and i hope i can let it come across without miscommunication, but. mental illness does not justify hurting others. this is a particularly complicated thing and potentially harmful argument, and it has been used against mentally ill people for such a long time, but the world isn't black and white, but mentally ill people are not inherently good or excusable. by assuming that, one thing that you're doing is basically stripping people of agency because of their mental illness, claiming that they cannot learn hot to reduce harm towards others and themselves because of it. a therapist can be incompetent, and psychiatry as a system can be abusive as hell, but professional help can really help and be needed. two, you're somehow claiming that because you're mentally ill you are allowed not to be careful with other people as well.
i want to ask you a question, sincerely, about this point: how do you think cycles of abuse work? that is, i think, another point of bully as a game. i'll do the example with parents: a kid is abused by their parent, and though they suffer, they don't question the way they were raised. with such trauma, they raise a kid of their own. it might not be the same kind of abuse and it might not be intentional, but, since they didn't do a mental work on what they went through, they might subject their children to a similar abuse. it goes that way until someone is able to challenge that parenting model and work through their trauma and so forth. now that was the easiest example, but. think about it, i'm just saying.
now, to the fictional character thing, and this is another complicated point. because i feel like this absolute need to justify gary for all his actions and clean him of all the hurt he's caused comes from this tendency in social media fandoms of assessing one's morality through the characters and medias they approach. and like, dear. i pinky promise to you, you can like the most morally reprehensible and terrible character of all times and still be a good person, you just need a base of critical thinking. do you think all greek tragedies enjoyers are dangerous and evil freaks?
you don't have to condone everything that is depicted in a media you like or everything a character has done. get rid of this... neo-puritanical mindset, i'm begging you, i promise the fandom experience gets 100x more interesting if you do. and also it is actively harming culture in its entirety, such as people claiming shit like "1984 is a horrible book that glorifies fascism and sexual violence!" as if that wasn't exactly what orwell meant to warn against through that book.
so yeah. tl;dr stop fucking excusing gary for everything he did just on the account of his mental illness, you're doing nobody a favor and you should really rethink your prejudices and probably work a bit on your critical thinking skills
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Started persona 5 and somehow when naming protag I completely missed the lowercase button on the keyboard and assumed I didn't have the option so now whenever they say his name it looks like this
And all I can think of is one of those automated phone calls where they just pause and insert your name and continue.
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