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magistera · 10 months
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Nouhime by Ayami Kojima
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odaclan · 10 months
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“Nohime”
Usually Nobunaga’s wife 濃姫 has been referred to as “Nouhime” のうひめ, with the “long o”. However, the name as written in the Ehon Taikouki and Bushou Kanjouki  武将感状記 actually had the furigana reading of “Nohime” のひめ with a “short o” sound. Those two texts were believed to be the very origin of this name, so their reading should be authoritative here.
That “no” 濃 kanji also happens to also be the same -no of Mino province, which has always been read with a short o. Some text analysts also have noted that 濃 is a valid kanji version of the “no” の particle (usually written in hiragana in modern day), which is sometimes seen in Sengoku letters, so either way “Nohime” appears to have been the most appropriate reading.
I’m curious why people thought it was read “Nou” with the long-o sound for so long if the furigana has always existed clearly in print. Perhaps it’s done by people who did not have access to the old texts mentioned earlier, and made wrong assumptions.
With this knowledge, I'm going to switch how I refer to her name from now on. Unfortunately, it’s not going to be easy to edit the tags. While I sometimes use both names in the tags to cover my bases, I sometimes forgot and only use the “Nouhime” name in the tag.
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reflectingstars · 1 year
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It’s just... I have a bad feeling about this...
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Hello there Saitou Nouhime fans.
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daeva-agas · 1 year
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[Ikesen Historivia] Can a man and woman be somehow confused for each other in history?
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Some theorised that it’s possible. Unlike Jean in Ikesen Vampire, this one actually has somewhat of a realistic basis, because in Japan one person can go by a dozen different names, and it makes accounting for who is who in records very difficult. 
Somewhere in 2016, news broke surrounding the famed female lord Ii Naotora: That “Ii Naotora” is not a woman, and it’s a case of mistaken identity.
That is not to say that there is no “female lord of the Ii family”. The female lord is still there. What they’re saying is just that the female lord’s name is not Naotora, and Naotora is a different man.
It’s something that’s debatable. The very historian who broke the news of “Ii Naotora is a woman feudal lord” insisted that Naotora really is her name, and this new claim is based on dubious sources. However, you could argue that this man might be biased, because he would have the reason to defend his own thesis. Until thoroughly debunked using more research data, this theory still has the slightest possibility of being true.
「ETA: I completely forgot about this other story that is actually more relevant, which is ironic since I actually made a point about childhood names in this exact post. A few years ago, there was a letter from Hideyoshi that was discovered, and the recipient is one “Saikaku”. For some time, it was believed that this is the wife of the deceased lord of the clan, that was acting as the new lord in her husband’s place. However, after further research, there were new documents discovered that suggested that “Saikaku” is a man. Saikaku was just his childhood name, and that upon his adulthood changed his name to Kageyoshi. This was perhaps a family that wasn’t very large nor influential, so it seems that their genealogy is not very well documented.]
“Nouhime/Nohime” and “Kichou”
Historically speaking, the term “Nouhime/Nohime” is currently believed to have not actually been a name at all. Her personal name is either Kichou or Kochou, and “Nohime” is just a title identifying “A lady from Mino”. The “No” of “Nohime” is the same “-no” of “Mino”.
(previously it was thought that 濃姫 is read Nouhime, but after checking on the source materials, people discovered that the text contains furigana reading that confirms 濃姫 to be read “Nohime”)
This is like saying “Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh”. His name is not Edinburgh, his name is Phillip, and it’s not like we’re talking about two people with this phrase.
And even then it’s not entirely certain if Kichou or Kochou was the correct spelling, or if it might have been something else completely different, because women’s personal names is really really hard to find. Mostly they’re referred to by various titles associated to the castles or domains they reside in, and their Buddhist names. There are a few women’s name that are well known in pop culture that have turned out to be dubious or false (modern invention).
The reason Ikesen is using Nohime and Kichou is probably because those are the names people in Japan are familiar with. Basically clickbait. Even if the writers know it’s wrong, I think they would still do the same because using accurate but unfamiliar names like Kochou or Sagiyama-dono would not have the same zing for the readers.
I’m still waiting for in-game explanation confirmation as to why a man in the Sengoku would be named something like “Kichou”, because that doesn’t make sense per the usual male naming convention. It’s not like Kenshin, Shingen, or Kennyo, which are Buddhist names. Kichou is just... not a sensible name for a man to have, even if Ikesen-verse is a parallel dimension. Most of the time the name logic for NPCs is still pretty close to at least Edo era conventions.
Maybe they’re gonna say that it’s his childhood name (like Ranmaru) and he never received a proper adult name because of the twins situation. Otherwise his proper “manly” name should have been Toshi or Tatsu-something
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Nene:
1. While they pull off the Hideyoshi infidelity stuff as a joke, he doesn’t cheat on her in game canon, which makes her yandere persona even funnier. I remember a conversation in Empires 2 between Nene and Hideyoshi that she said she was going to break his arms and legs if he went after another woman, then in the Orochi series, Nene chases him throughout Orochi World so that he wouldn’t flirt with the goddesses or the DW cast. That being said, Nene’s a nice lady, I think her motherly persona is charming and cute
2. Well, Hideyoshi is her historically and canonical husband, but..that doesn’t mean that’s the only guy I like with her. At first, I thought I could get behind a Kiyomasa x Nene ship, but Kiyomasa is actually kinda creepy towards her, and a creep in general, so I pass on that one now. I thought she and Hanzo were pretty nice together...actually, what happens in Orochi Land stays in Orochi Land, she should have got with Sun Jian ;) 
3. Non-romantic OTP...hmm...her and Nouhime should interact more. I thought her and Bao Sanniang had a cute friendship in Orochi, same with Ayane and Sophitia, too. 
4. I imagine making Nene into a ninja when she was first revealed must have been a little strange at first; as she was known for being a nun, and the woman at Hideyoshi’s side. With the removal of Kunoichi in SW2, I guess Koei needed a female ninja and seeing that they wanted to go into Hideyoshi’s reign, it made sense to have his behind-the-scenes- wife as a ninja. Not just any ninja, but a ninja mom who hands out spankings like she hands out candy, I guess Dommy Mommy is a trope people like in Japan? Seeing that we would later get Aya and Zhang Chunhua as very domineering mothers (if I’m wrong with this, sorry, I’d love an explanation from the JP fans on this :) )
But I can’t really think of an answer too much for this one other than ^^
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Danganronpa:Ransei's Tears
read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/eh0H1nG
by Spinnetossa_Shipper
After the great Ransei War, it is believed that peace has returned to the region. However, as the 38 Warlords and Junior Warlords suddenly vanish without a trace, peace seems unlikely. Waking up in an unknown environment, these warlords must now fight for their survival. What will it take for these closely bonded warriors to kill once more?...
(This is more of a Pokemon Conquest centric fanfic so you do not need to be a Danganronpa fan to understand this story)
(First Chapter is an authors note and not part of the story)
Words: 187, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English
Fandoms: Dangan Ronpa Series, Pokemon + Nobunaga no Yabou | Pokemon Conquest
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death
Categories: Multi
Characters: Shujinkou | Hero (Pokemon), Shujinkou | Heroine (Pokemon), Oda Oichi, Maeda Keiji, Fukushima Masanori, Ishida Mitsunari, Katou Kiyomasa, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Kuroda Kanbei, Takenaka Hanbei, Mouri Motonari, Chousokabe Motochika, Tachibana Ginchiyo, Tachibana Muneshige, Imagawa Yoshimoto, Shimazu Yoshihiro, Uesugi Kenshin, Naoe Kanetsugu, Aya Gozen, Takeda Shingen, Sanada Yukimura, Kunoichi (Samurai Warriors), Houjou Ujiyasu, Narita Kaihime, Fuuma Kotarou, Nene | Toyotomi Yoshiko, Hattori Hanzou, Date Masamune, Saika Magoichi, Tokugawa Ieyasu, Honda Tadakatsu, Komatsuhime | Honda Inahime, Saitou Nouhime, Izumo no Okuni, Akechi Mitsuhide, Hosokawa Gracia, Mori Ranmaru (Historical RPF), Oda Nobunaga
Additional Tags: Crossover, Killing Game (Dangan Ronpa), Character Death, Original Character(s)
read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/eh0H1nG
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koei-tecmo-edits · 2 years
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f3lldrag0n · 2 years
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iryomito · 3 years
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Basara characters types!
Here I am again Shitposting Basara! myyy It's been too long! And of course this is about some of the Basara characters types! (at least in my fanon) Date Masamune: Pure shy type who can still challenge him, flirting levels dangerously increasing around them. Sanada Yukimura: The 'I am your senpai' type who is wiser and will guide him, but will still beat him too!! Katakura Kojuro: Overconfident know it all type who still needs help, just tell him you are the best in the world. Sarutobi Sasuke: Stiff serious type, no jokes, no flexibility, easily flustered too, being rich or with a gorgeous body is a bonus! Chousokabe Motochika: Cold type, ice runs through their veins, If your heart is actually another backup brain he will be head over heels. Mouri Motonari: Naive type, just be stupid and too good to be true alright? strong bodybuild is a plus, just in case ... Tokugawa Ieyasu: Savage type, with anger issues, ready to bite anytime, but still good deep inside okay? Ishida Mitsunari: Hideyoshi type? or probably Hanbei, If you can't be them just love these two !! Maeda Keiji: Litterally everyone! or probably milfs, could be dilfs too you never know ... Kasuga: Just a wise sophisticated type, you know who I am talking about. Takeda Shingen: Shorter slim type, who can still beat him! Uesugi Kenshin:The 'Please Notice me senpai' type, fragile deep inside, he will adopt you. Oda Nobunaga: Immortal masochist type? yeah because God knows how many times he will shoot you in the head or stab you in the heart ... Akeshi Mitsuhide:  Definietely a sadist type, or someone who will make him suffer in general ... Nouhime: Complicated type, her time is too precious to waste on simple people! Mori Ranmaru: Let's say cute type for this one who can still kick his ass. Shimazu Yoshihiro: Outalwas Rebelious type, pssst he is a closeted pervert ... PS: -First, these are practically my nonsensical hcs, If you don't agree please remember I am throwing random bs or just pretend you didn't see. -And second, you never know, there might be a second part for the others!
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grapeeuphoria · 3 years
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Beautiful and powerful women and girls 🌸🔥
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odaclan · 1 year
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His Lordship and Her Ladyship wishes all of you a Happy New Year
Happy New Year, everyone! Thank you for being here and reading my sporadic posts.
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💞✨Basara Scenarios💞✨: Nōhime shoots you in the dick
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daeva-agas · 1 year
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Baby Kichou pretending to be “Nouhime”, who he says is his twin sister. I don’t even know what’s going on LOL. The wormhole dumped MC to the past-past when Kichou is still baby, which kind of reminds me of Vlad’s route, but wellp. 
Honestly I'm still at unease at “Kichou” being his actual name because that’s not a normal name for a man. I’m still waiting for them to go “psyche!” and his real name is Tatsu-something, and Kichou is just a nickname. Oh well. I tell myself to forget real life logic all the time, but I can’t. 
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uo-mabushi · 3 years
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I read up on Nou/Kichou from Samurai Warriors on TVTropes and now my favorite thing is Nobunaga and Kichou being straight up evil and also married. 
But then I saw ProzD’s evil dad skits and now I can’t stop thinking about EvilDad!Nobunaga who’s really doting toward his son(s). 
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umeliquor · 5 years
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戦国BASARA 濃姫
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