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jemmaasimmons · 2 years
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DERRY GIRLS APPRECIATION WEEK day six: an underrated character you love: Ms De Brún
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chats-make-me-laugh · 2 years
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Ms. De Brun: Dig deep, something you hate, something you despise. No holding back. Come one! Get it out!
Erin: Injustice!
Clare: Prejudice!
Michelle: Mass!
Orla: My own socks!
Jenny: Being late for school!
Girl: Piano lessons!
James: The fact that people here use the word "wee" to describe things that aren't even actually that small!
Ms. De Brun: God but I love that accent James!
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dolokhoded · 2 years
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one of my favorite things about derry girls is how they handled james and femininity. how we get to see him adjust and grow comfortable in himself, the parallel between 2x1 ("it's a man's job, erin, i'm a man"..."well, i'm more of a man than orla") and 3x3 ("i don't wanna do it, i think orla should do it"). how michele's constant teasing about him not being masculine enough and the entire town thinking he's gay when he is, in fact, Not Gay don't scare him away from showing his feminine side and when he does it's not displayed as comedic or degrading, it's not played off as a stupid "haha look james is Girly" punchline (him wearing ms de brun's eyeliner in 2x2, dressing up as posh spice in 2x3). and how through all this james still wants his identity as a boy acknowledged and respected. he insists he's not a girl. he's not letting any display of femininity take away from him still being a boy, he doesn't let people turn it into a "lol james is a girl" joke. all of it is so well done and james isn't turned into a caricature or a weird sexist joke and i love that.
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mynonclicheblog · 2 years
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An accidental character study of Erin Quinn (and James Maguire)
This post is mostly a thought dump because it's been buzzing around in my brain, but I'm tagging in case anyone... idk... is interested in reading my chaotic analytical thought processes or w/e 😂
Before 3x04, I was confident that if we got a Jerin confession in canon it was going to be James who dropped the bomb first. I've been thinking about this a lot lately in terms of, like, my understanding of James and Erin as individuals and WHY I felt that way (prior to ~that scene), so this is mostly gonna be me laying out my thoughts on Erin's headspace leading up to James's confession + why she wasn't mentally ready to be the one to say anything.
Anyway, my brain is a bit scrambled while writing this so please bear with me. 🐻
So let me just say first, I've got some Derry Girls/Erin POV ficlets saved in my drafts right now and I've never connected more thoroughly with any other character I've written for? Ever?? even tho i'm american It was like, suddenly I'm inside her brain and she's telling me things about herself that I didn't realize before with absolutely zero effort on my part. Idk man it's been so much fun & unlike anything I've experienced 😂
But anyway - as I stated in my tags on this post, one of the main reasons I felt it would have to be James who bit the bullet first boils down to their rationalized self-perception // the fact that he's more honest with himself than she is. This is consistent with James in pretty much all areas: he is easily able to recognize something, process it, and state it out loud.
His character falls pretty well into the "straight man" trope within the wacky and colorful landscape of Derry natives. He is often a voice of reason amongst the girls (a role he sometimes shares with Clare) despite his rarely being taken seriously by them - he's similar to Gerry in this way. Regardless, James is overall the most grounded and self-aware member of their group. The show hadn't dropped as many obvious nuggets of his crush on Erin imo (compared to the other way around), but that's fair because he isn't the one who needed his feelings to be billboarded in order to self-actualize them. Once James gets something, he gets it. Signed, sealed, delivered.
Erin on the other hand is notoriously delusional - even in situations wherein she's well aware of the reality, she's keen to mentally overwrite that by clinging to a self-imposed narrative which she finds to be more suitable. She's also an incurable romantic with a flair for drama and sweeping love stories - but then, she's stubborn, and not totally honest with herself.
So, how do you determine which side wins out? And if she so loves romance, why would she prefer to keep her crush on her best friend buried rather than take a chance on this potential romcom storyline come to life?
For me the answer is in her current frame of mind: despite her clumsy, awkward, and chaotic ways, Erin is extremely image-conscious. Since season 1 she has been repeatedly concerned with what others think of her (David Donnelly, Charlene Kavanaugh, Ms. De Brun, to name a few).
Putting aside the connotations associated with Anglo-Irish relations, I think Erin's biggest hang-up lies within her immediate circle, like the way she and her friends slag him off all the time. That is comfortable. Slagging off James is normal, familiar. But having to admit that she actually fancies that same boy, the object of her and her friends' endless ridicule... that feels awkward. It's unheard of.
And most importantly - this is the real kicker - it's embarrassing.
To compound this she has a touch of Anne Shirley disease, in that James doesn't fit the 'ideal' mold she thought she wanted (just look at him next to her usual type; the cool, aloof, masculine lads). James is her dorky best friend - not exactly the conventional Love Interest hottie she's always imagined herself with.
I think after 2x05/6 Erin realizes on some level that she has a wee bit of a crush on James, but she's decided to keep a lid on it and pretend it doesn't exist. Why? ->->-> Because it's weird! My friends won't understand. The WORLD won't understand. He's an amazing fella but I'm... I can't date James! That's just- it's ridiculous! Best keep that to myself, then.
She keeps her crush tucked away partially out of ignorance to the weight of it, but that's only because she WANTS to be ignorant of it. She knows it's there but refuses to look right at it.
Whereas James is able to zero in on the feelings and the feelings alone once he has a lightbulb moment (hi James I'll get back to you in a sec), Erin automatically filters those feelings against a bunch of external factors: what will people think of me, an Irish catholic gal, being with an Englishman? Will they think it's weird if I'm dating my sweet friend James and not some absolute ride-o-rama? What will our families, our FRIENDS think??!
Erin's got a rather anxious personality. Right now, while she's young, that manifests as this tendency to hyperfocus on her self-image and the image she projects to the world.
This futile desire to be perceived as 'cool' is something that Erin and James have always had in common, though each in their own way. I think James has shown the most progress getting past that fear as of series 3 as he continues to grow more comfortable with himself and has learned to fit in with his, quite frankly, crazy group of girls.
In the earlier series episodes James was frequently concerned with the judgements and/or assumptions people made about him - he's an English prick, he's gay, he's not much of a man. As time has gone on, we've now seen James proclaim himself to be a Derry Girl. He's performed onstage dressed as Posh Spice. He's no longer seeking approval from other males like he used to.
This isn't meant to sound like a cruel outlook, but I think the constant belittlement he experiences from the girls (affectionate) has aided him in learning to not always take words/opinions to heart. He knows now that it's not always an accurate picture of how people feel, nor is it a reflection of how he should feel about himself. Erin's not quite there yet, but post-kiss I think her mindset regarding her crush on James is going to make a conscious shift.
As of 3x04 she still prioritizes what Michelle thinks, still fears the newness of these feelings she's just finally had to face, and she doesn't want to make waves in the friend group. So she turns him down for now (though the dejection in her apology betrays her attempt at emotional distancing).
Eventually they'll all get older. A more grown-up Erin will realize that these things she's been so worried about re: a relationship with James are trivial, and ultimately inconsequential to the bigger picture.
Anyway, moral of the story is that James and Erin started out in the same place with the same trajectory - fearing judgement, eager to please, desperately craving validation. James's rational personality and experiences happened to boost his maturation ahead a bit, so he was in a position to break the fog sooner than Erin.
The parallels within their development arcs (to say nothing of the peace process symbolism) is really quite beautiful when you think about it.
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areseebee · 1 year
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🔥the Michelle and James dynamic
listen, is michelle an asshole to james? yes. but tbh, from michelle's perspective, james is a total dick.
put in a cut because of length, not trying to clog up dashboards here.
like think about season 1: he's foisted upon her family by her totally absent and obnoxious aunt who did everything she could to assimilate into the culture of the oppressor and who thinks she's better than all of them, and then james, too, proceeds to act (in michelle's eyes) like he's above it all. his outburst at the chippy? how many times do you think he's turned up his nose at dinner that deidre has made/bought for him to get to that point where he loses it? and then to have that outburst in fionnula's, in front of everyone? it's downright insulting, what gives him the right? he's so entitled and acts so put upon as if he's not perfectly fine and safe and well cared for, not to mention he's fucking boring. he'd be inconvenient anyways, and now michelle has to manage all of this extra bullshit too? no thank you, but also he should be glad she's even letting him tag along.
what i do love is that this totally transitions into the most sibling energy of all sibling energy and by season 3 you can tell that they do actually like each other even if the words coming out of their mouths sound the same. it's incredibly meaningful that james sticks with michelle through hers and erin's fight; i don't think we would have seen anything close to that in season 1. in conclusion: i love them, your honor.
eta because i'm still thinking about this: i love, love, love derry girls because it's always both/and with all characters. maybe that's too vague; what i mean is that i love that i can see this about michelle and how james appears to her while also understanding that james is going through intense culture shock, has been abandoned by the one person who he loves and is his one constant in life, clings to anyone who gives him even an ounce of support (father peter, katya, ms de brun), would like to try to make friends with some lads who won't shit on him all the time, doesn't like fried foods (valid), is afraid of the british soldiers (also valid), and just would - please, it's not too much to ask - like to have someone let him use a fucking bathroom. and now he has michelle making literally every part of all of this even more difficult and lonely and isolating when it would already be all of that on its own without her. and i don't think any of this makes michelle a bad person. both hers and james's experiences of each other can be true at once. that's how we all operate in life every day. and it is pretty masterfully portrayed in derry girls.
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annebrontesrequiem · 1 year
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Ms de brun is so hot fuck
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atlas-the-bastard · 2 years
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Jdhfhdfh watching derry girls rn..
Anyone else getting massive Mr. John Keating vibes from Ms. De Brun in that one episode? Like, the baseball hitting thing is like when they kick the soccer balls, and the whole poetry thing, and looking at the old school photos etc. Its like Dead Poets Society but with girls and set in the 90's
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tacefinutap · 2 years
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nocturnal-milk-dud · 5 years
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Ok but the fact that we only got like one episode with Ms. De Brun is criminal
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claredevlinn · 5 years
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Oh Captain My Captain
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deadswiftiesociety · 2 years
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the derry girls casting team were sick for this
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xansandfans · 3 years
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She’s a bit of a bitch, but, cracking eyeliner.
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missfalcon · 3 years
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She could offend my stories and writing style, mix them with mud, spill them over and tell me how badly I write and I would be totally okay with it. PLEASE MS DE BRUN! RIP ME UP LIKE THESE CHILDREN'S POEMS!1!!11!1
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gray-zelle · 3 years
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Kara Danvers in suits WHEN
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leohtttbriar · 3 years
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i mean she just walks in, writes her name on the board, catapults the chalk across the room, puts her feet on the desk, and then tells a bunch of children their poetry is Shit.
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