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References to the tmntaucompetition in 'Wanna Come Over?'
the flower given to us by the extended fam
plushie by rise dystopia au
the donnie squad!! featuring bloodbath and little prince!
That competition was so fun we wanted to add some little references to it in this and future issues. Besides these, there's actually a lot happening in the background jdskf
#pal talks#tmnt redline#tmntredline#tmnt au competition#i think thats all the ones we added idk#we've got set ups for a future character#a hint to the next 2 villain reveals#set up for a comic way down the timeline#theres more but im tired sjfkdsl
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Long, long post. Mostly me rambling. Have a lovely day :)
I watched 2012 tmnt when I was little so I got used to the vibe that one has, like the darker colors and stuff. So the first time I saw Rottmnt I was like
woah
It’s super colorful, there’s a lot of hyper activity, a lot more jokes, and it’s pretty obvious that it was made for the attention of little kids
so I didn’t watch it. It just didn’t really grab my attention, and I didn’t watch it until I saw a clip of the opening scene in the movie. And then I was like
woah
major character death
so I went ahead and watched the show. And it was amazing, and I loved it, and I’m a huge fan of Rottmnt. Not to mention the fandom (at least here on tumblr) is actually awesome to interact with, everyone is really excited to talk about the show and share headcanons and art and it’s amazing.
I’ve gotten into other fandoms and content through the Rottmnt original content creators too. I’m sure that a lot of people know the Cass apocalyptic series, which was incredibly written and drawn and had me coming back to read it over numerous times. And the comic also led me to read Casserole’s original content, Marble Sky, which is amazing as well by the way.
And the au comics are amazing, too. I read the Mutation Situation, I read Jacob’s Ladder, Two Arms Left, TizSepAu, Villan Leo, Kid Leo, Redline, Swanatello, Gemini Twins, Bloodbath au and a lot more I’m not mentioning.
Rottmnt is a kids show. Same as the Powerpuff Girls, or Paw Patrol, or any other kids show out there. It’s not for everyone. It’s catered to a target audience, which happens to be little kids who’s attention is caught by the bright colors, and hyper activity, and the 2D artstyle. It’s not for everyone, same as every other tmnt iteration, same as all content everywhere. I don’t expect anyone to go out of their way to watch Rottmnt, especially if it doesn’t interest them, and you don’t have to watch the show to interact with the community either. You can enjoy the community without enjoying the show.
You do you. Do whatever makes you feel good. I just hope that everyone’s experience with tmnt, and the tmnt community is as positive as mine is. I saw a post talking about all the reasons the blogger did not enjoy Rottmnt. I read the whole thing. It made sense, I understand why they didn’t like it, and I just disagree. I didn’t pick a fight. I just liked the post and moved on.
Recently I’ve seen a lot of people picking fights over disagreements a tv show made for kids. Not a lot are actually engaged in, which is good, but we really shouldn’t be picking fights at all. Basically, all this to say, you do you. Do what makes you happy. And if you disagree with people, just do that. Disagree. You don’t have to fight, or be rude, or anything. I’m all for debating, as long as it remains respectful.
I’m very aware that I can’t control other people and dictate how they interact with others, but I can suggest that we’re just nice to each other. Please.
Anyways if you read this far, thanks, and I hope you have a wonderful day.
#Just a really long way to say do whatever makes you happy and please don’t pick fights#rambles#tmnt#rottmnt#Kid Leo au#swanatello#gemini au#villain Leo au#Tmnt redline#Mutation situation comic#tiz sep au#Jacob’s Ladder#2al au#cass apocalyptic series#marble sky comic#Bloodbath au#tmnt 2012
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This month's last-minute review is brought to you by something of a reading slump. I've read a fair number of good books this month, if you look at the ratings I've given them, but no books that I've gotten excited about, that I've felt were unexpectedly good enough that I had to talk about it.
Until now.
Lovecraft Country was my first Matt Ruff, and it's not going to be the last. It's well-written, with strong characters and good humour, and a really interesting structure. It's a smart book, and feels very grounded and real. Is it an astounding book? No, but it does its thing very well and I enjoyed reading it more than I thought I would.
Let's start with the structure, because that's one of the things that impressed me most. It's a novel-of-stories, with each chapter being a different character on their own adventure, but there's still a narrative arc for the book, clues the characters gather and the readers pick up on, and nastiness that builds and builds until the final showdown. It's a tough structure to pull off, but Ruff's done it.
I also liked that the structure lent itself very well to a sort of puzzle-box story. You get all these clues and hints about what's truly going on, even if you don't realize that till later, and even though you kind of know where the book is going, watching everything slowly slot into place and trying to put everything together before the characters do is a good part of the fun. It's a lot like watching good SFnal TV, which Ruff's author's note says this was meant to be; you get invested in the characters and the individual "episodes", but there's meaning in that key, that comic book, that thing in the forest. Surely there must be, but how?
And the characters! I loved all the point-of-view characters—they're smart, opinionated, complicated, aware of the forces acting against them and doing what they can to avoid them. I was scared for them, I wanted them to succeed, all that good stuff. The white people are also believably drawn, in that they're self-important, greedy, and used to power, but also, when the story allows for us to see it, sympathetic and complicated all the same.
It's hard to say whether this is science fiction or fantasy, but it's definitely in that wheelhouse rather than being a straight-up historical novel. There are ghosts and monsters and grimoires and secret dimensions and a lot of other stuff you might expect to find in a book that's influenced by pulp fiction and early sci-fi and horror. But, as with a lot of genre work that tackles such things these days, Ruff has fun with this stuff while also adding a social twist to them. In this case, having a Black cast allows Ruff to illuminate and comment on the racism inherit to the 1950s. There's humour to it, but in a way that helps the points hit home.
And that brings me to the last thing I need to mention: that this is a book about Black people written by a white man. It's also written primarily for white people, as far as I can tell, because while the characters take redlining and sundown towns for granted, Ruff doesn't assume that his readers will even know what those are or, if they do, be aware how they actually impact people. However, Ruff's also done his research and tackled the subject thoughtfully. The characters don't conform to stereotypes but are definitely informed by their pasts. The stuff they face goes beyond the usual talking points of Black History For White People; there's mention of boycotts of racist businesses, the Tulsa race massacre, the intricacies of buying real estate while Black, the difficulties of loving science fiction when everyone who writes it hates you. And of course he acknowledges that dealing with racist BS on a daily basis and constantly being underestimated puts you at an advantage when there's some really massive BS going down. I thought Ruff handled it all very well, without being heavy-handed or going into anything that he couldn't do justice. (Well, maybe Ruby's story. I need to think about that one more.)
So yeah, I was surprised by this book on a few fronts, and I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. The humour and love of SF tropes, balanced with the antiracism and social commentary, was right up my alley, and the way Ruff told the story was the cherry on top. Like I said, it's not an amazing book—it might have pushed the boundaries of speculative fiction when it came out but it certainly doesn't now—but it entertains and enlightens and does so cleverly. This won't be my last Matt Ruff, like I said above, but I'm also not likely to pick up another one for a while. Maybe in a year or two when I get a hankering for the sort of stuff he does.
#book reviews#booklr#bookblr#speculative fiction#adult booklr#book photography#read in 2023#Lovecraft Country#Matt Ruff#book recommendations#my photos
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I have a question....So I like doing art and drawing comics. I usually go for a dreamy fantasy vibe like Lore Olympus did. But I want to try a new different style, I usually go for Watercolor brushes when doing my usually style but started using Oil brushes.
Can I have some advice on changing art styles and body details.
This is where I fully support the saying "good artists copy, great artists steal", because the whole notion of 'style' is just mileage + referencing. So really, if you're wanting to try out other styles and mediums, go find artists you like who work in that style and reference them! Do studies of them! Redline their JPG's! Experiment with brushes and see which ones get the closest! Analyze their work and reverse engineer it until it makes sense!
(of course, this is all for educational purposes, so don't go literally stealing any artist's work, if you do share anything that you've experimented on be sure to credit the original artist and link to their socials or something to pay it forward <3)
With LO, a lot of how I've studied Rachel's style (and I still do because man it's hard to nail) is literally just by taking old LO panels that I like and redrawing them. Whether it involves ground up "drawing what I see" or tracing (yes, I said tracing, it's completely fine if it's for learning!!), whatever gets the piece close enough that I'm happy with it. And then from there, I refine the process - if I did a lot of dumb little steps during the experimenting phase, then I do it again and again and again until I figure out what steps can be skipped and which ones can be kept. I was actually just doing this today earlier at work because I'm STILL trying to get Rekindled closer to that S1 LO look. There's nothing even really wrong with the art in Rekindled, I like it a lot, but I'm still far from my original goal. So I study, and I study more.
Also - and this isn't something that's always going to be doable but I suggest you try it - if you're working digitally, one thing that I find helps a lot with learning an artist's process underneath the final project is finding artists who sell their PSD/CSP/art files and brushes. Some artists do and it's so helpful for pulling back the curtain and seeing what they're really doing underneath that final result. There's a lot of great info you can get just by picking things apart and making a mess. Of course, that's only applicable to artists that sell their files, and they're for studying ONLY, for obvious reasons, but it's a great way to support those artists. Some artists I've gotten PSD's from include wlop and sakimichan!
I hope that helps!! Basically, just don't be afraid to step outside of your comfort zone and always be on the lookout for what you can learn from the art you consume :)
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theories for jennika in @tmntredline!
we know shes in "Mama Duck: Part 2" before her mutation, so it's just a matter of figuring who she is.
my main guesses are the pizza place employee and Hunee.
my main reasoning for the employee is that the panels they're in are are more yellow than the rest of the comic:
image ID/ a set of comic panels set in a pizza shop. they have yellowish, bright lighting, contrasting with the darker panels around them. they feature a figure behind the counter doing business with the turtles. /end ID.
it might just be that they're brighter than the rest of it, but there is some yellow lighting from the sign. it's worth noting that the other turtles are not affected by this lighting, implying that whatever meaning it may have does not apply to them.
all of the turtles have red masks in redline, but their designs still clearly take some inspiration from their signature colors (other than Mikey*), so hinting at jennika by using her color is not out of the question.
also, the towel over the employee's shoulder looks similar to the turtle's red masks. this could be turned into their own mask in the future, especially since they probably will not work at a normal human job anymore if they get mutated.
the way this person gets cut off and seems curious about where the turtles went also just raises a few flags. this is mostly based on "eh you just aaaah... you know it when you see it?" because the employee's reaction was also simply reasonable.
My other main theory is Hunee. this has a bit less to stand on because she is clearly the interpretation of Hun, but still worth thinking about.
image ID/ a comic panel of a woman ripping a car door off it's hinges /end ID.
shes still got the yellow in her hair, and in her introductory panel she has completely white eyes like the turtles do when they wear their masks.
it would also make sense for her to start out as an antagonist, because in the IDW comics, jennika is originally a member of the foot clan.
however, she is the redline iteration of Hun, the leader of the purple dragons. she already has a name and there is no reason for her to change it.
she is still very mysterious at this point though, and as the leader of a criminal organization, she may have reasons to use a fake name. I don't count her status as a version of Hun a deal breaker, because a version of tmnt where they are one in the same has the potential to be interesting. plus, it would be an excellent red herring.
I still think this is the less likely theory, but it is not impossible
Although, I think it would be pretty funny if it was a background character with no dialogue, like one of the other purple dragons we see.
image ID/ four panels of a comic feauring background characters from the purple dragons /end ID.
I see that yellow sweater.
all of the comic panels I used are from the redline comic, it is excellent and I cannot wait to meet jennika!
*skill issue/j
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Hey it's me again! :D I know you said wait till about episode 10 or 11 before I make The Writers guide for Redline, but I recently made a writer's guide template so that way others can make their own mythologies. Since you know all the information already you can use this template! :D But that's up to you though. :) Also is that comic where they get sucked into the basketball game Showdown through a portal canon? Or is that non-cannon?
Hello! It may not be the best to make a guide right now since Redline has an on-going mystery kinda thing. The more the guys find out about themselves, the more the readers do. I like the template, it could be helpful for those starting their own iteration!
As for the showdown; it's not canon to the main comic, just some goofy fun- but we may add references or nods in the main one. Like Donnie taking a selfie with other iterations/aus in the showdown and we keep it in his lab; or having Leo's bball be signed and have it around the lair in some panels. Also if the guys happened to be given something during the competition they'll have it in their rooms.
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When I first watched the CSM anime I thought "yeah that was pretty good", then I re-read the manga then realized I hated the anime adaptation
What I like about the manga is probably unintended, but stylistically the CSM anime could not be more generic and boring in terms of its execution. I'm not saying it needs to be some crazy heavy lines and hand-drawn the way that REDLINE is, but it's so devoid of "cool comic book/action hero shit" and the melodrama and muted palette don't really match teh atmosphere and pacing that I like in the manga. the things I like in the manga might be incidental ("chainsaw man pacing"), but man does it stink to watch when you've read the manga which has a jarring pace that brings out the themes & setting better to show how cheap deaths can really feel in that story (in a good way)
It's aesthetically okay, and I don't hate the CGI, but we low-rolled the adaptation + director tbh. We should've gotten Science SARU or something
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“Never Satisfied” being discontinued feels like the end of an era for me.
Specifically web comics with privately hosted sites. All the webcomics I read at that time of its production are all “dead” now: Monster Pop by Maya Kern, Monsterkind by Enenkay/Taylor C, Cucumber Quest by GiGi, Paranatural by Zack, and I thought Sakana was gonna be but it came back after a 3 year hiatus. (There are more, but I can’t remember their names. There is one where I distinctly remember the alt text on a page saying how another artist “lovingly redlined Avery’s ass”) A lot of newer comics are hosted on apps, like webtoons, now. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I think it’s convenient that they are all here together, but I do miss how incredibly personalized and charming browser experience each comic had. It’s just kinda odd to feel the passage of time and how things change in this way
Majority of the comic artists I follow have shifted away from comics and instead have taken to writing novels because they hell of a lot easier. Which is great for them and I definitely encourage doing whatever it takes for your mental and physical health. I think having the ability to write novels are an incredible skill and feat in of itself! However, I can’t help but feel a bit dejected. Because of my reading disability and vision impairments, I can’t enjoy these stories when they are converted from a comic into written form. It’s difficult for me to read walls of text, and even harder for me to retain it. Even typing this is difficult. I just have to pray that I didn’t make any typos and that this shit is actually coherent! And since these books are all very small productions, none of them are on audible so I can’t even listen to it. Sure, there is text to talk, but BOY is it hard for me to retain anything I’ve heard when the Stephen Hawking synthesizer is reading to me. Maybe it’s the cadence? Regardless, a lot of the comics I listed above have an ending written out that I will never be able to know of because I suck at reading. Hell! I’d be more willing to “tough it out” and struggle for long periods of time, but reading fatigues me something fierce. I got maybe 5 minutes max before I have go lay down. I don’t even get to retain what I read either! I just get exhausted, and I’m useless for the rest of the day.
For some reason, comics don’t seem to do that. I have absolutely no idea why. It is the only written media I can consume with ease. All I know is that I hate it, and it fucking sucks to be this way. If I know how I could fix it, I would. But so far, nothing seems to do anything,
I know it’s selfish of me, but I am curious if artists would be more inclined to finish a project if there was better system for comic artists. Of the comic artists I have followed years ago and still continue to make comics usually have a partner that they work with. Perhaps if there could be some kind of business platform where there was a team of artists working on an idea, like what they do with animations. ….However, considering how underpaid and overworked artists in general are, I’m sure the only improvement would be the rate of production. I know that is especially bad in other countries. They overwork and underpay their employees, which doesn’t really help resolve burnout, the whole issue I’m trying to address. Not that I have any right to say anything on the matter. My stupid ass can’t make more than 6 pages of a webcomic before hitting an art block.
Unrelated, but something I think is kinda funny is how many artists and comic artists I follow that have come out as trans within the last couple of years. In hindsight, it is probably why I liked and connected to their work so much.
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I thought Keikenchi was the screenwriter for Redline and Hirano the cartoonist.
the relation between writer and artist when it comes to manga is... weird, especially when trying to pin down who's responsible for the characterizations. hirano and keikenchi's process seems to lean towards plot script rather than full script, which would mean that hirano is given an outline of the plot beats to hit, storyboards it, and then passes it to keikenchi for approval
even though they don't explicitly clarify that it's plot script in any interviews, given that hirano works on multiple projects at any given time (a common use case for plot script in the manga industry, inherited from its use for the same reasons in western comics) and seems to describe plot script in his interview about Redline, it does seem to be the most likely answer
this is important because, in the context of other things hirano has written, okita skews more towards a "hirano character" in redline than anything else
it could just as easily be in large part due to keikenchi writing to accommodate hirano's pacing, or maybe that hirano works closely in the writing process. either way, something about his absence causes okita to become a less interesting character, even in comedic scenes
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Hi there! I don't know if you remember but I sent an ask regarding my character Venus ( thank you by the way. Still learning anatomy stuff ) and she will be a character for a web comic series I'm making. And I wanted to ask about my character Marcy/mars
I took inspiration from the planet Mars and had her colors more saturated since I thought too bright red would be too visually overwhelming and since the planet Mars is more of a reddish brown. But then I got to her hair. Now I wanted to give her fire powers so I made her hair bright red because it's supposed to be pure fire. But then I looked at it again and realized it may look odd with her more saturated armor. But If I saturated her hair, it probably wouldn't look like fire
And thank you again with the help for Venus. Here is what she looks like now and her name is Cleo
Oh yeah, welcome back! Yeah, I think Cleo's new color palette works better than the old one, and I like the clouds for her hair!
Feels like the first step of making a character's fiery hair look like fire is to focus on its shapes. Fire is naturally chaotic and uneven, so if the shapes of the hair are practically uniform, it's much harder for it to read as fire (especially in a single image that isn't animated).
In my redline, I tried to maintain the overall shape of the hair while making the flames more believable (though if you were going for more realistic motion, all the hair would burn in a straight vertical direction, similar to Hades from Disney's "Hercules").
And funny enough, Hades is proof that fire on a character can be literally any color and still look like fire. It's more about how it's drawn.
I actually think the color of Marcy's hair works fine as it is, since its high saturation compared to her suit draws the eye toward her face. For my version, I just added a lighter, warmer color to the outlines as an easy way to make the hair look like it's glowing, punched up the saturation on the eyes a bit, and darkened her eyebrows just so they wouldn't blend in with the hair. I'm typically not a fan of transparent anime-style hair since it often betrays a lack of planning as to how the hair interacts with the facial features. But fire is transparent, so the hair gets a pass in this case.
Hope that helps!
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What were some of your biggest inspirations and influences when you were making Anarky as a character? (And some of the inspirations for her dimension as well)
Gonna split this down the middle for the two questions since they both have VERY different methodology behind them
Making Anarky
Anarky originally started as a SHAMELESS self insert, like a lot of good spidersonas in fairness. Slowly she got tweaked to better fit A, her universe and B, comics as a medium. She got a bit more dramatic, a bit more stylish, started piling on hats as comics tend to do, and then when I looked at this messy pile of character traits I started smoothing out the rough bits.
As far as inspiration goes, being a self insert a lot was Me, a dash of wishfulfillment so still Me but hypothetically, and a few bits I thought made her fit the setting a bit better, both the universe and comics as medium.
Making 451000
Okay this took a lot of time, but unlike Anarky I had a mission statement when I made it.
Two words, two VERY important words.
Boring Dystopia.
451000 was designed with inspiration from dozens of sources, games I've played, fiction I've enjoyed but also modern politics and especially modern companies. You could definitely squint and call her universe cyberpunk, but I'd object to it.
See it was always a critique of capitalism, its habit of consuming unsustainably, of draining wealth at a very real human cost to add to a half dozen people's high score, while enabling white nationalism, military states and genocide as a byproduct.
But cyberpunk is over the top, it's cool and sleek and oftentimes Comically simplified. (It's also got a a HORRIBLY orientalist yellow scare origin I wanted to sidestep as much as I can, so you won't see much neon dogwhistles in 451k either)
451 isn't that, it's greebled, but its also boring, it's depressing and it's not sexy. There are cyborgs as a comparison point, but they're not fighting for human rights, because actually outlawing people is a strategy that late stage capitalism has figured out is unpopular and visible, but putting them in food deserts, redlining the nicer urban districts and squeezing them out in less fantastical and more difficult to rally against ways works just fine.
So cyborgs aren't fighting to be considered human, they're fighting for the right to repair. Currently they face a system where fixing their mechanical parts voids the warranty and results in their work contracts being voided, leaving them unable to find work or afford the immune suppressants required to stop the rejection process.
It's not sexy, it's boring. But it's rooted in reality, and it's SO much worse for it.
And that's 451k at it's very core.
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If you're not okay with questions feel free to delete this but damn I am intrigued in your redline thingy
1. What kind of turtles are they? Raph seems to be an albino variant of some sort and I know that in the photo thing Leo was suggested to be a hybrid but goddamn I love biology
2. It's very interesting that yall are going with the red masks for all of them approach. Is there any reasoning behind it or just for funsies? In any case it's very unique just like every other aspect of their designs!
3. So like. I love that your Splinter is a lady???? Rat mama ftw???? But how specifically did she get mutated and what the hell is going on between the Hamatos and the Foot Clan bc god I love the drama those guys got going on in tmnt
No pressure if you answer or not!! Love y'all's work and wish y'all a happy February!
You are so sweet! @0ddbugs and I are totally open for questions and we appreciate all the interest and love we've been getting!! 💖
0dd answered this one here
2 and 3.
Rat mama is Tang Shen! The woman who is extremely important to most Hamato Yoshi's but also usually dead in most iterations of tmnt.
We wondered what she would've been like as a mother for them.
2012 made us want this concept even more when they got to meet her.
Shen is the backbone of Redline. We made her story before we even had the boys designed.
Any way the way she was mutated was mentioned by me here.
But basically these two disgruntled scientists were trying to create mutagen for different reasons. They had a very limited supply and decided, drunkenly, to go test it on animals at the college.
Perry and Baxter
Shen was in another room that held a rat when she heard them break in. We had a joke in our first draft for the comic that she left her baton with the rat because she's a martial arts master and felt she needed it more.
When she got to the room with the turtles and the men, the turtles had already been stuck by Perry with his samples of mutagen. Baxter, in self defense, stuck Shen with the only other sample of mutagen he was holding.
Being that the last thing she touched was the rat in the other room, she mutated into one. The turtles were last touched by her (the two had gloves on).
There's some stuff about Baxter and Perry we really dont wanna talk about til we get to it in the comic so it'll have to wait. I'm sorry. :,D
Their red masks are cut from an old scarf that belonged to her late husband, Hamato Yoshi. As they didn't get to meet him, she cut the scarf in fours so they'd all have a gift from him.
Her past is also mostly a secret but to simplify, Splinter and Shredder are bitter exes.
We can't wait to post more Redline, and we have the first comic coming within this month. Thank you!! I hope you have a good February as well!!
#tmnt redline#tmntredline#pal talks#some REALLY old concept art#cw needles#i tried to make it as simple as possible its just a line on her hand#he got her good though lol#I hope this makes sense im really bad at explaining
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I'm curious as to which 4 out of the 8 films you haven't watched :P also do you have any other recommendations for animated movies? The one you did recommend was really neat!
Not watched per se. The only one I've watched in full is fantastic planet, and I've seen scenes from fire and ice, ringing bell and heavy metal! The other four I've never heard of.
it's a mix of movies and shorts but here's a list of mature animations i recommend
another list of cool looking anime from a sideblog if you're into that
if you like european comics i recommend these adaptations to arzach the surveyor and corto maltese in siberia who are on youtube, more for the story than the visuals
I'm also a big fan of cartoon saloon and 4°C for studios in terms of "famous but not mainstream and have strong identities", though I've not watched everything they've made... but cool stuff their way for sure.
Lastly, my favorite animated movies ever are probably the rabbi's cat and redline! They're famous-ish so I doubt you've not seen them but if it's the case do! That's all I got for right now, I've been trying to tag my recent animation posts so you can go dig in the notes to see what people recommend too!
(to anyone reading this - i only recommend what I've watched, so if you want to enquire for specific content warnings, do message me, as some of these films are obscure and will probably not have a DTDD page...)
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“Why would Campbell dunk on some poor little artist smaller than him?”
I mean... Money? The people paying his bills aren’t the people making anti-male gaze redraws of overly stylized comic book covers, it is the people who are sick to death of the randoms on the internet “fixing” things that they didn’t consider particularly broken. Plus, it got people visiting his Twitter and saying his name again, so I guess mission accomplished.
It has been 12 years. It is not the first time someone has said they fixed his art. In fact 2009~2014 was an era there were a lot more active Redlining/Fixing art blogs for anime and comic book art, and this cover had seen so many of them.
He knew about them. He knew about a LOT of mockery about it. That’s why he drew it again, but in a more light hearted way. He’s constantly doing something that gets criticized, just like in 2019 when he was drawing 15 year girls in sexualized ways and ended up making a much cuter cover. I had seen plenty of edits back then too, but he never posted a posted a person’s info.
This man has already had 382k followers on Instagram, 101k on Twitter, 515k on Facebook, and 101k on Deviantart. His bills are fine because even if he suddenly stopped taking on all the professional work for Marvel (and had originally worked with Wildstorm Comics where he got his break with creating and co-creating a couple of popular series), he has large amount of following that can buy his prints and commission him for big money for brand name alone. I actually remember him far before the Mary Jane cover on Devainart, after recognizing that he’s the one who did the sexy Disney Princess collection from like almost 20 years ago now, which he’s more recently collabed to get them into figures that people can buy. The prints of this collection can go for a lot if you can find em circulating.
He’s a highly sought out artist, regardless if you like his style or not. His name is already spread when he posts new art or says just about anything, especially when girl. A small, non-professional artist editing art will not stop a professional from their job. The official art isn’t going to suddenly stop existing. They will not stop getting money. His fans have not dropped him over some teen that actually left a good portion of the art intact. It wasn’t even an edit that changed remarkably everything about her either, as most of those people get mad if you redraw the race and weight, but she stayed pretty much the same.
If this was another smaller artist and the editor got way more credit and influence, then yeah I’d think it’s kind of a dick move. I also think he’d be fine if he just posted the edit WITHOUT a name attached and redrew it like “I revisited my old art after some criticism” to show how far he’d come. Much better than throwing sarcastic jabs at an art piece, only to have the same exact problems in his redraw itself. Either way, this artist is not going to suffer any blows because of this in any way unless Marvel is suddenly going to hire a teen that has no intentions of entering the art industry all of a sudden
#the pose is janky#and I’m glad he did redraw it because it’s not perf by any means but it’s far better#that’s the one good thing that came from it#wish he did that in the first place tho lmao#long post
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What’s wrong with Quackerjack in DT17 in my opinion.
I don’t make a secret about it how much I dislike the DT17 style and hey, it’s okay if you disagree and the majority likes it. It’s a preference after all.
But I already saw how fans got attacked by other fans for simply not liking DT17. This is childish and pathetic behavior...I won’t accept that. Be better than that.
Now for all those who are curious why I think so, let me pin it down a bit.
When my bestie showed me the newest screens of the appearance of the F4 I didn’t know what to think first. Now after I literally stared at the one with Quackerjack long enough I think can explain what on that style..on him... bothers me so damn much.
I totally understand how all the fans are hyped and trust me, I would love to join that hype...DWD get’s some love after all those years and this is great....but I simply can’t. I look at the show...I look at screencaps... and I only can find mistakes after mistakes which not only bothers me but make me very sad and hurt my lil’ fan-heart. :(
Just look at this:
I circled the main things which I can’t wrap my head around.
Why did they not fill in the fool’s cap between his eyes?
It’s clearly something the changed on his design since the white gap is visible in every sneak-peak of him. But that’s not how his -or any other fool’s cap which covers the eyes- work...
Also what is going on with the edgy emo eyeliner? I thought we left this behind in the 00s? And eyebrows OVER the fool’s cap?
And do the animators actually know how a ruff works? It looks like Quackerjack has some kind of plate around his neck and not something out of fabric.
Look at the difference in the DWD cartoon:
That thing is made out of fabric and MOVES with the shoulders. Depending on the fabric it moves more or less, but it would never behave like a plate!
Back then they sure made their homework about such details. Those details make cartoons lively in the first place. That’s why I think DT17 looks overall very stiff. And that everything is so angular sadly doesn’t help with it.
And speaking about details...why are the folds in his pants missing in the first place? That’s also not how his pants work.
Also that pose in the robot (Why does it even look like him? His robots ALWAYS were toy inspired. He is not that narcistic!) is so bad I‘m not even sure how to redline this mess. I tried..I really tried but...I can’t! How does Quackerjack need to break his arms or dislocate his shoulders to make that work? It seems a part of his upper right arm is even missing!? Where is his elbow...where is the rest of his upper arm? And since the ruff behaves like a massive plate and Quackerjack’s left arm is coming from behind..it looks like his arm is way much longer than the right one and seems to grow out of his back!? @_@
And while I wrote this I noticed the screenshot of his first cameo isn’t that better. What are those arms? Why does he have the stature of Bernd das Brot?
Also why is his (and of the other F4 members) design in the art style so inconsistent? The most notable change is the beak. You can see without a second glance it got changed. I can’t even say it changed for the better or got worse since I overall think the beaks are drawn ugly in DT17.
I mean, changes can be good and sometimes are needed but usually you create a character sheet long before the cartoon is even created and then all animators stick to it. I just can wonder how consistent it will be between the scenes if the special comes out.
I can’t even really compare it to the old cartoon since back in the days a lot more studios were needed to draw and animate a cartoon. So don’t get me wrong. I’m totally aware that stuff like this happened back then:
Same characters, different episodes but same studio.
Yes, even the same studio couldn’t be consistent between the episodes, but they managed to somewhat be it in the episode itself.
So why does this bother me with DT17 so much, when even back then they couldn’t get their shit together and be consistent? Easy..it’s because back then everything was drawn and animated by hand. It was a lot more effort. Back then they couldn’t just use paste and copy. There was no eyedropper tool to get the right color quickly. There were no programs who can break down a model to seperate their parts so you can animate their limbs easily. There were no programs for simulating facial animation or lip-syncing. Everything was much more complicated. I don’t say animation became easier but it became different. That’s why it’s hard to compare old cartoons with new ones in some aspects.
But since cartoons nowadays are most solely made on computers...why are color mistakes still happening?
I want to believe this is a ref to the purple hand recolor mistake Quackerjack also had in the original next to several others because that would be hilarious. But seeing stuff like this
destroys that belief.
One would assume that such mistakes get reduced with all that modern computer programs, but it doesn’t seem so. Tbh color mistakes and wrong layering is something which I can forgive easily, but not breaking a characters whole anatomy and change his overall appareance to such a degree you just can wonder how this is supposed to be the same character. I look at DT17 Quackerjack and see Quackerjack but also do not see Quackerjack at the same time. It’s like my brain full on goes “this is Quackerjack...wait no...this is more a manic Quackerjack imposter with dwarfism but not the real deal.” and this each single time I look at him. The way he is shown to be portrayed actually makes it worse.
@raeloganthesonic06fangirl jokingly made a post how he got his spine finally fixed, but isn’t that terrible posture one detail why we loved that dork in the first place? :(
Also his facial expression. He already had a major character shift once.
...sure there were reasons but the comics were another can of worms I won’t open in this post here now. And pls don’t get me started on how ridiculous it is how Silvani draws his beak.
I just can hope DT17 will at least get his character right but...
This
looks more like
than
😟
#darkwing duck#ducktales 2017#quackerjack#dt17#this post took me too many days to finish because of my broken wrist -.-
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image ID/ a screenshot of text, reading: "idk how much I'm allowed to say before 0ddbugs comes after me but I will say we haven't seen Casey yet, but he was mentioned. Just not by name" /end ID.
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well well well it looks like it's time for more @tmntredline theories!
the only references to specific humans I could find were in part 2 of "Mama Duck", part one is just the turtles and splinter as far I know. (all comic panels used are from part 2 of the redline comic.)
However, I did find every time a human was mentioned without being pictured before or after they were. first off,
image ID/ a set of comic panels, the first of which shows four of the purple dragons lined up left to right. the other panels show the turtles talking about the purple dragons as they prepare to fight /end ID.
the turtles of course talk about the dragons in general, but what's really interesting is that there seems to be someone missing.
notice, the conspicuous space between the person on the far right and the next one over. there are also white streaks around each character, and the way they come together in that panel may indicate another figure that is not there.
I am fairly certain Casey is in, or used to be in, the purple dragons. they are simply the most viable human candidates that have shown up so far.
image ID/ two comic panels featuring a human talking to the turtles. they tell the turtles to leave because the purple dragons are dangerous and will not stop looking for them. the human also says that the purple dragons own you once you join them /end ID.
I would not be surprised if casey has not been seen yet for this exact reason. apperently, a necessity of leaving the purple dragons is some excellent hiding skills.
these panels also make me think that the story will explore the purple dragons more, and this was laying the ground work/foreshadowing for learning about them with the turtles. casey would be a perfect way to expand on this, if he is or used to be a purple dragon member.
image ID/ two comic panels. the first one shows mikey excitedly saying: "Lee, I hear someone-i bet one of those idiots woke up. Let's ambush again, that was fun!" the second panel shows hunee saying: "Are you with that little idiot?? Did he put you up to this?" /end ID.
right off the bat, both mikey and hunee use the same nickname in these instances, and mikey refers to the purple dragons again.
unlike mikey, hunee seems to be talking about someone specific, the only instance of someone talking about one specific human without using their name as far as I can tell. (other than April). every other time, the purple dragons have been talked about as a collective. this is most likely the only instance where casey was knowingly and intentionally referenced by another character.
hunee seems to dislike whoever she is talking about, lending credence to the idea that casey is an ex-purple dragon. there is also the possibility that casey slighted hunee herself, which is why she seems to hate him so much.
hunee's facial expressions are hard to judge, esspecially because she has not been shown for very long. she could be scared, in which case she probably is not talking about casey, but that could be garden variety anger or recognition. of course, even if it is not casey, it would be interesting to see who could actually scare hunee. fun times either way!
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