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nothingtherefornow · 4 months

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About Evil teenagers antagonists in Miraculous

I currently wonder how can some fans still want a redemption for somoene like Chloé who willingly hurt people just because that's was her definition of "fun".

Why not accept Chloé as somoene evil ? Just because she's 14 years old ? Just because Gabriel was worst than her doesn't take away the fact that Chloé is a truly bad person who has the potential to become as evil, if not worse than Gabriel while growing up.

Even in real life, adults are not the only ones who are capable of cruelty and crimes. If only adults were capable of monstrosity, I wouldn't have 14-year-olds killing each other with callache nikoffs in the drug trafficking districts of my city. we wouldn't have young people beating up little ones and pushing others to suicide and absolutely not regretting their actions. And we wouldn't have stories to raise eyebrows about kids capable of committing murder and acts of torture without necessarily having been abused in their lives.

To me, anyone who loves to make others suffer for their own sick pleasure (and their victims are people who objectively don't deserve such cruelty) has serious mental issues and can be a danger to others.

Both Chloé and Lila love to make others people suffer or don't care about hurting innocents, and they certainly don't feel any empathy for anyone, or in Chloé's case, no longer feel any empathy (she may have felt sympathy and empathy for Adrien at some point, like during the episode Felix in season 3, but that's definitly no longer the case as soon as Adrien asked her to stop being a biatch). Maybe Lila may feel a form of attachment toward her mothers, yet that doesn't stop her from manipulating them and fooling them in a way that's pretty cruel if you dig deeper in Lila's scale of truancy and imposterization.

I know that technically when a 14 year old kid behaves like Lila and Chloé we could say to ourselves that it is unfair to give them no chance and to condemn them when they are only 14-15 years old and could change for the better if they could be guided on the right path.

But Miraculouse is a show in which the superheroes with the fate of the world in their hands are 14 year old kids. And as such in this fictitious reality, other 14 year olds are perfectly likely to become real cruel and threatening villains i without any scruples, especialy if they are influenced by the wickedness of an adult supervillain.

And I believe that Gabriel's evilness only made Chloé's and Lila's wickedness worse.

He put those two girls in positions of power where they could hurt others and act according to their darkest and Manichean impulses. And Lila and Chloé would only want more taste of that power to crush others. And you know how power easilly corrupt the most greedy hearts.

On several occasions, Gabriel even approved of Lila and Chloe's horrible plans and actions. He has encouraged Lila on numerous occasions to "get rid of" Marinette, thus giving the impression that he supports Lila's jealousy, and during collusion he will have the nerve to say that Chloé's ideas, which consist literally ruining the academic future of your classmates and putting your pregnant teacher in jail for no good reason are good ideas. Having a rich adult in a position to approve of their actions in this way will only have given Lila and Chloe the feeling that their acts of cruelty and malice are justified, and thus reinforced their evil nature.

On several occasions we have seen Chloe and Lila voluntarily let themselves be akumatized, and worse than that, we have seen them plan to be akumatized (Chloe in Penalteam, and Lila in Revelation) and not for understandable reasons like that of a desperate Jalil brainwashed by lies on social media. Because Lila and Chloe have only ever been motivated by their narcicism, their ego, and their desire to get revenge on people they hate for the most pettiest, vain and selfish reasons possible.

Lila and Chloé may be kids, but they are evil teenagers, because they would gladly become supervillain if that means getting what they want. And what they want is anything but noble. For their selfish goals, Lila and Chloé were willing to endanger the city they live in and all its inhabitants. I don't even know if I can still call Lila and Chloé kids or teenagers, with how far they're willing to go and hurt people for the sake of their ambitions.

Although there's still the possibility that Lila may be an adult with a youngfull appearance or a hormonal abnormality making her look like a teenager when she could be an adult. But that would risk making her a pedophile so I don't think the show will go that far ^^ At most they could give her the same as Théo Barbot

But an antagonist adult would be needed then to balance an antagonist teenager supervillain.

Good thing we still have Tomoe Tsurugi then

It's tragic that Chloé and Lila wickedness and evilness could be due to serious mental issues or Chloé's bad upbringing, and the show may have decided that it's more important to protect others from the harm Chloé and Lila can cause rather than to prioritize "helping" them with their issues. Both Marinette and Adrien proposed another path for Chloé to chose, one that could have helped her heal from the emotional and mental wounds her mother's abandonment and neglect. Chloé instead chose Hawkmoth's/Monarch

Ladybug offered Lila her friendship, and Adrien also offered Lila to be there for her as long as she didn't hurt those he loved. Yet both Lila and Chloe voluntarily chose to continue committing bad deeds and hurting others, regardless of the fact that someone reached out to them and offered them another path to get love, acknowledgement and recognition from people. Adrien and Marinette don't have to sacrifice their mental health for people who wish them harm, so I understand very well that it wasn't and won't be their priority to help Chloé and Lila find potential redemption. And especially when Lila and Chloe seem determined to refuse to change and continue to cling to their wickedness.

It should be the adults responsabilities to deal with Chloé and Lila issues, and unfortunatelly the adults in Miraculous are pretty lousy and incompetents. It's very tragic when we don't know that one kid is a psychopath, and if another has always gotten away with his narcissistic behavior disorder and nothing had ever been done to help them deal with that issue, that only leaves the opportunity for the seed of evil in these kids to germinate and flourish, and then reach the level of nastiness that is more often found in adults.

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous thoughs #chloé bourgeois #lila rossi #gabriel agreste #tomoe tsurugi #This show seems to like evil teenagers antagonists in Miraculous #and the fact that the influence of an evil adult antagonist only facilitates their premature fall towards the path of evil #We had Garbage Agreste giving Chloé and Lila opportunities to be villains and supervillains who would antagonize and oppose the heroes #then in season 6 we may have Tomoe Tsurugi becoming one of chrysalis's ally #That sure would be better than the whole miraculous team having a lot of trouble against just one villain teenager

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buggachat · 7 months

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deserved

#ml #miraculous #miraculous ladybug #ml paris special #ml paris #ml spoilers #claw noir #shadybug #toxinelle #griffe noire #shadyclaw #toxigriffe #ladynoir #<- kind of?#my art #I TOLD MYSELF I WOULD TAKE A BREAK FROM DRAWING BUT THEN MY INTERNET WENT OUT AND I HAD NOTHING ELSE TO DO #had to use a different application than usual though because capitalism is a scourge so my usual art program doesn't work offline

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cadenzarose · 1 year

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Beach date shenanigans!

aka I never imagined we'd get a relationship pre-reveal and now there are so many Scenarios in my head

bonus:

(Also, special thanks to @ittybittytatertot for helping me brainstorm!)

#miraculous ladybug #ml #ml spoilers #kinda #not for a specific episode but just like for things in general #cadenzadraws #miraculous minicomic #i tried to be looser with this comic and it was a really fun time #just messin around with expressions #not worrying about anatomy overmuch #it was chill #please do not flip the canvas though #ml season 5 spoilers #ml s5 spoilers

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kindling-of-sorts · 10 months

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whag

#i've seen a ts4 and minecraft version i'm scared #bugnoire design goes hard though #miraculous ladybug #mlb #mlb spoilers #ml spoilers #ml s5 spoilers #mlb season 5 spoilers

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wavesketches · 10 months

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anyway, props to Marinette for her use of unlimited lucky charms, this is exactly how I pictured it going down

#miraculous ladybug #ml s5 spoilers #ml recreation spoilers #ml spoilers #bug noire #monarch #marinette dupain cheng #gabriel agreste #fanart #art #comics #draw the squad #wavesarts #my art #I was NOT disappointed #the piano carried off the palm though

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paracosmicat · 10 months

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Gabriel didn’t just threaten to kill Felix, he actually attempted it.

With what we know now, putting the akuma in his ring was a death sentence.

If Felix hadn’t rejected the akuma then not only would Ladybug and Chat Noir have to break the ring but when they did they would have found both a feather and the akuma and WHO WANTS TO BET THEY WOULD HAVE HAD THE KNOWLEDGE TO NOT PURIFY BOTH.

Poor kid had to fight for his life, literally. We know how hard it is to reject the akumas but he didn’t have a choice, did he?

Also, consider this both proof that Gabriel was aware of this fact AND proof that Gabriel is just so so stupid..so stupid.

#miraculous ladybug #felix graham de vanily #gabriel agreste #ml sentimonster #sentimonster felix #sentimonster kagami #ml gabriel agreste #ml representation #ml season 5 spoilers #sentimonster theory #even though…#it’s not a theory ANYMORE #sentimonster fact #mlb season 5 spoilers #I hate Gabriel so much #my posts

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yunyin · 3 months

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Not pictured: Marinette taking a bite of one to prove they're not poisoned or anything

I haven't talked about it that much but I loved the Paris Special!! I think afterwards they're going to be in Hesperia's hideout as a little team and making friends. Like the batfam

#yunyinart #miraculous ladybug #ml paris special #ml paris spoilers #marinette dupain cheng #alya cesaire #sketch #reverse marinette #emonette #reverse alya #I changed Marinette's top cuz she doesn't have to have something up over her neck anymore #and she'd have slightly less eye shadow maybe #idk #but it's a fun universe to think about #even though I'm usually like BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO SABINE IN THIS UNIVERSE

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theforbodingboglands · 1 year

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Im srry

#I FINALLY FOUND THAT STUPID MEME #miraculous ladybug spoilers #miraculous ladybug #ml spoilers #lmfao #omfg #spoilers #patsuko art #lawd help me #adrien agreste #gabriel agreste #I saw that Peter griffin meme and I freaking died #even though I hate family guy #ml intuition #art #ml season 5 in a nutshell lmao

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diadraws · 10 months

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i wanted to draw a sillay comic of them with my grownup designs/hcs so here u go

#miraculous ladybug #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #chat noir #cat noir #adrinette #ladynoir #dia draws #digital #fanart #they are in their 30s and dot have kids even though i KNOW in canon they would have kids because i simply do not like giving characters kid #hope this helps #i have to make adrien the most pouty pathetic girl ever #adrien prns are he/she/nya and marinette is she/it

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averageludwig · 7 months

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HII, been seeing the designs for the special popping up and it got me working on some stuf :3 I will not be acknowledging adriens designs.. and I JUST KNOW the gabriel one Won't be what i want . whatso ever. so I decided on doing a quick one for him !!! yey!!! look at him go!! anyways I love shadybug btw. by far the best design tehe .

#miraculous ladybug #miraculoustalesofladybugandcatnoir #mlb #paris special #ml paris special #ml paris spoilers #art #fanart #every week i remember he exist and cry #FUCK YOU GABRIEL AGRESTE #love him though #marinette dupain cheng #gabriel agreste #Averiart

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nothingtherefornow · 1 year

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Miraculous is getting darker with how truly insane and messed up Lila is

I already talked in a previous post about how more dangerous and demented than we thought Lila is thanks to a leak of episode 12 that I recently discovered, but seeing an animated preview of that very scene I talked about was even more striking and impactfull.

SPOILER WARNING ABOUT GLOOB TRAILER FOR THE ML EPISODE PERFECTION

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Okay so ... from the Gloob trailer of the season 5 episode 12 Perfection, it's very official now that Lila is a deranged psycho.

The girl not only seems to have tons of photos of Marinette with her family and her friends, but we can clearly see that all these photos were probably taken remotely without the consent of Marinette and her loved ones, either by Lila herself or by someone she will have paid to do this.

And as if it wasn't creepy enough, it's was even more disturbing to discover that Lila cut Marinette's face from all those photos

THIS, people, is what the actions and behavior of a stalker really looks like (while any photos of Adrien that Marinette owns are either from Magazine or photos Adrien consented to)

I can't deny that discovering this about Lila's character scared me, even if there was already signs in previous seasons that Lila could be a psycopath (or a sociopath if this term corresponds better to her medically speaking) :

Lila's hatred towards Ladybug has always been out of proportion, even though the heroine ruined Lila's chances with Adrien she still apologized, but in Heroes's day part 1 listening to the heroine's praises and Gabriel insulting Volpina were enough to make Lila explode in rage

in Chameleon Lila willingly got herself akumatized just because Marinette and Adrien offended her, and she sent a an icy, hate-laden stare towards Ladybug after the heroin proposed her friendship to Lila. Not only that but Lila went back on her deal to let Marinette decide to be against or with her the moment Adrien showed that he was interrested in Marinette than Lila

in Oni-chan, Lila tried to manipulate the situation so she could to "get rid" of Ladybug

Not only Lila was cruel enough to get Marinette expelled from school even after Marinette chose to leave her alone, but her satisfied smile when seeing Scarlet Moth was back was also very disturbing

At the end of season 4 and beginning of season 5, Lila smirked when seeing Nathalie in pain and coughing

All those behaviors and actions should have been alarming enough

But to quote a fan comment on Youtube : "At this point saying that Lila doesn't like Marinette is an understatement, she's at psycopath plotting a murder level obsessed because since when does a sane person do something this disturbing toward somoene they dislike ? "

That person's comment also added that while Miraculous is supposed to be a kid's show, it is currently turning into shades of dark. I personally always thought Cat Blanc was the biggest sign that the show would get darker and darker but even I didn't expect to see such a creepy thing with Lila from Miraculous 0_0

As it was explained in the youtube comment I mentionned, Lila's actions in this trailer exceeds just wanting to steal Marinette's friends and make her miserable : "if anything it's like she want to steal Marinette's life by erasing her from it. You cannot tell me that this is just because Marinette called her out on her lies." For real she even cut the photo of Marinette with her parents, she feels so much hate that she feel the need to also involve Marinette's family and not just her friends O_O

And for all we know Lila may have a list of past victims she bullied and harassed because she gets some sick pleasure from annihilating those who challenge her

We already knew Gabriel to be crazy, but Lila is really on another level. And with those two having a hate-obsession with Ladybug for Gabriel and Marinette for Lila, I'm more scared than ever for our heroin T_T

#miraculius ladybug #ml season 5 spoilers #ml season 5 gloob #ml Perfection spoilers #miraculous analysis #miraculous thoughs #lila rossi #marinette dupain cheng #Lila Rossi is nuts #like really really nuts #coo coo crazy nuts !!!#Please someone save Marinette from all those psychos who are after her life T^T #I'm so scared for Marinette she deserves to be protected at all costs

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buggachat · 1 year

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Part 178 of my bakery “enemies” au!

baking montage!

First / Prev / Next / All

Kofi

#ml #miraculous ladybug #miraculous #marinette dupain cheng #marinette dupain-cheng #adrien agreste #adrienette #adrinette #my art #bakery enemies au #this scene is my bane apparently because I keep rearranging the parts and so #anyway remember how i took a break because i rearranged the parts so an incomplete part was wedged in #anyway i completed that part. and then i. rearranged it again. so now it's no longer wedged there and i #THIS PROBABLY DOESNT MAKE SENSE AND IS DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN BUT I. BASICALLY A LOT OF STRESS FOR NET ZERO CHANGE #GOOD FOR ME!! 😎😎😎#also i think the spooning scene's mature mark was removed so that's cool #last part still missing though dw about it

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bluebelledmoon · 3 months

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"The Final Photoshoot"

gabriel agreste was soon found being strangled by a blue feathered boy after this was released

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eldritch-ace · 9 months

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They’re going on a date that is going to confuse the hell out of André le glacier :)

(also these are future/current day designs)

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elviradreaminess · 9 months

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Marinette on Zoom class 💕

A cute and funny illustration of Marinette crushing over Adrien during a Zoom class!

I made this quick drawing at the beginning of the pandemic when online classes were such a common thing for everyone, so this idea came up right away back then.

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miraculouscataclyyysm · 1 year

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So alix had to leave Paris to protect the bunny miraculous, Luka had to leave because he knows ladybug and chat noirs identity’s…..Alya should just start packing at this point

#they all know to much #lb said evict all the children #at least they got cool trips out of it though #miraculous ladybug #ml #miraculous tales of ladybug and cat noir #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #ml s5 spoilers #chat noir #ladybug #luka couffaine #alix kubdel #alya cesaire

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