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ohlooklackless · 2 years

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This is speculation as I head out for the day and don’t have time to triple check. I will come back later and add links to cite the speculation and theories I reference.

Ben is an arcanist and leaves the troupe after having dodged some of Arilden’s questions about the chandrian and he even heard a little of his song - enough to know it started with Lanre.

We know the university prevents any and all investigation into the Chandrian.

We know Lorren knew who Arliden was at Kvothe’s first admission - and knew him specifically as a bard

We know Kvothe gets angry with Denna for challenging his view of Lanre and the chandrian as wronguns

We have plenty of speculation that the university and the Amyr/Chandrian are linked

There’s no evidence that the chandrian killed the troupe - only that they were there afterwards

What if Ben reported Arilden and his song/knowledge to the university and thats what got the troupe killed? The Amyr.

Arilden’s song didn’t seem to paint Lanre in the light that Kvothe later comes to see him in.

“Proud Lanre, strong as the spring

Steel of the sword he had at ready hand.

Hear how he fought, fell, and rose again,

To fall again. Under shadow falling then.”

The Chandrian just took the blame cause they were around in the wake.

The Amyr turned up cause The University found out Arilden was going to tell something like the truth about Lanre.

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logarithmicpanda · 2 years

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I rarely do negative reviews, especially of books I did not finish, but @smalltownfae asked me for my opinion on The First Binding as a KKC fan, and I think it can be useful for other people so here it is.

TL;DR: if you loved or hated KKC, this book will probably piss you off. If you have never read KKC but love high fantasy and storytelling, it might be your next favorite book!

I stopped at the hundred pages mark (out of eight hundred) because the similarities kept jolting me out of the story. Here’s a selection of quotes that particularly gave me pause, with their KKC counterparts

“ The Waystone Inn lay in silence, and it was a silence of three parts. The most obvious part was a hollow, echoing quiet, made by things that were lacking. If there had been a wind it would have sighed trough the trees, set the inn’s sign creaking on its hooks, and brushed the silence down the road like trailing autumn leaves. If there had been a crowd, even a handful of men inside the inn, they would have filled the silence with coversation and laughter, the clatter and clamour one expects from a drinking house during the dark hours of the night. If there had been music…but no, of curse there was no music. In fact there were none of these things, and so the silence remained. “

From the first chapter and the prologue, respectively. The parallel of stillness and silence and the general feel of the writing are very similar already.

"Kvothe here played the simplest song in the world and made it look like he was spinning gold out of flax," Marie said. "Then he took a real piece of music, something only a handful of folk in the whole place could play, and made it look so easy you'd think a child could blow it on a tin whistle."

So literally the same plot device...

“They say the Lethani is a secret power. Adem keep their words inside." I made a gesture as if gathering things close to my body and hoarding them. "Then those words are like wood in a fire. This word fire makes the Adem very strong. Very fast. Skin like iron. This is why you can fight many men and win.”

Not exactly to the same effect, but magic focused on hoarding words and burning them like wood...

Do not dare hold hope that any woman could burn as brightly as the voice that sang the part of Aloine.

Girl sings. Hero gives her a name. Eloine - Aloine.

My name is Kvothe, pronounced nearly the same as "quothe." Names are important as they tell you a great deal about a person. I've had more names than anyone has a right to. The Adem call me Maedre. Which, depending on how it's spoken, can mean The Flame, The Thunder, or The Broken Tree. "The Flame" is obvious if you've ever seen me. I have red hair, bright. If I had been born a couple of hundred years ago I would probably have been burned as a demon. I keep it short but it's unruly. When left to its own devices, it sticks up and makes me look as if I have been set afire. "The Thunder" I attribute to a strong baritone and a great deal of stage training at an early age. I've never thought of "The Broken Tree" as very significant. Although in retrospect, I suppose it could be considered at least partially prophetic. My first mentor called me E'lir because I was clever and I knew it. My first real lover called me Dulator because she liked the sound of it. I have been called Shadicar, Lightfinger, and Six-String. I have been called Kvothe the Bloodless, Kvothe the Arcane, and Kvothe Kingkiller. I have earned those names. Bought and paid for them. But I was brought up as Kvothe. My father once told me it meant "to know." I have, of course, been called many other things. Most of them uncouth, although very few were unearned. I have stolen princesses back from sleeping barrow kings. I burned down the town of Trebon. I have spent the night with Felurian and left with both my sanity and my life. I was expelled from the University at a younger age than most people are allowed in. I tread paths by moonlight that others fear to speak of during day. I have talked to Gods, loved women, and written songs that make the minstrels weep. You may have heard of me.

That whole introduction of the hero, down to the events themselves, is extremely similar

Ravel is a term my people find particularly offensive. Its use makes light of the systematic slaughter of thousands of Ruh.

Race of storytellers treated like shit and called ravels.

IN CONCLUSION:

None of these things on its own would have bothered me too much, to be honest. But side by side, every couple pages? Add to that the mythology dump early on, and I felt past caring already.

The worst part is, when it is doing its own thing, it feels like a good book, with some excellent quotes and fresh concepts. But it keeps hammering me over the head with KKC things that feel too close to references to be coincidences, and I’m over it lol

#the first binding #reblog later #not quite an anti review but also not very positive whoops

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cicinicole-14 · 3 years

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I loved the KKC thing you posted earlier!! How do Eli & Alexis fit into the picture??

oh i was waiting for this one!!!

it’s interesting to say the least... when Alex gets the call from izzie.

it’s a sunday morning, and for once, they’re all home as a family.

jo answers his phone, because Alex is preoccupied making waffles with his four daughters and they’ve all banned jo from the kitchen.

Alex’s hands are covered in eggs and flour as is most of the counter and all four of his children.

jo picks up the phone, a random number from some town in kansas apparently, according to the caller ID, Alex gives her a nod to answer it for him and she’s stunned hearing a woman’s voice in the other line, especially when she asks to speak to Alex karev

jo let’s her know that this was his wife, she comes off a bit defensive at first. as she should, if another woman is calling her husband’s phone.

“can you tell him izzie called? i just, i need to talk to him. it’s urgent.”

jo’s anxiety flares up and her heart races hearing izzie speak. she tells her that she’ll make sure Alex calls her back, that he was in the middle of making waffles with their daughters. izzie just thanks her, sincerely, and hangs up.

she looks up at Alex’s inquiring gaze, letting him know that “it was izzie, your uh, your ex wife. she says she needs to talk with you, that it was urgent...”

Alex washes his hands as the waffle batter is finally made and he leaves explicit instructions for jo to finish making their breakfast without any burning casualties. “grease the iron, pour in the batter, close the lid and flip. when the light turns green, take it out.”

he calls izzie back immediately and walks away from the kitchen, where all the chaos had been.

izzie’s voice is slightly surprised to hear Alex call back so quickly but she thanks him for getting back so soon and tells him to thank his wife for not being jealous or failing to mention she called. she tells him he found a good one, whoever she was and he laughs, agreeing with her.

and then the conversation shifts, and a somber tone graces izzie’s voice when she tells Alex that her mets have returned and no medication, the three surgeries she’s already had, the chemo and IL-2 treatments she’s had havent been working.

and she’s accepted that she truly is dying this time. that the visions of denny and even george this time around, have returned. and it’s scary. and terrifying. but she’s accepted it.

he tells her he’s sorry, and offers amelia shepherd’s expertise, along with tom koracick too but izzie beats around the bush, declining the offer

Alex can tell there’s still something she’s not mentioning yet.

the other shoe finally drops when izzie brings up the embryos they had fertilized together all those years ago.

he tells her he remembers them, and how it had put a strain in his and jo’s relationship early on. izzie apologizes, but rips the bandaid off and tells him that jo’s worries we’re apparently valid.

because she used them.

and they have twins.

and Alex’s heart stops.

“i’m telling you because they need their dad now. i’m sorry i kept this from you, but you’d signed away your rights. but i don’t want them going into the system when they have other family. when they have a father and apparently a stepmother and half-sisters. i want them to know you.”

he’s furious to say the least, and scared, and ecstatic all at the same time.

he swallows, taking in all the information.

“y’know, this really doesn’t bode well for me. i already have four daughters and we have another baby on the way...jo just found out she was pregnant last week. we’re definitely going to need a bigger house.”

“well, you have five daughters now, and a son. the twins are five. eli and alexis. they know you exist. they know you live in seattle with your family, i’ve told them since they were born that they have a daddy who lives in seattle who saves all the little babies who need him, that one day they’d get to meet him but the babies needed him more.”

Alex is still speechless. and he can hear jo’s footsteps coming closer, coming to tell him that breakfast was done. he tells izzie he’ll keep in touch with her he just needs to tell jo everything first.

izzie tells him she’s sorry, and then thanks him for listening.

he hangs up the phone after bidding his goodbyes.

“what did izzie want? is everything okay?”

Alex stares down at the phone, hearing a text chime in, it’s a photo message, from izzie. and there’s a few pictures of the twins attached.

he swears in that moment his heart stops beating.

“izzie had my kids.”

and with that, jo’s whole world stops and her blood runs cold.

#kkc universe #cici writes #jolex #jolex fic

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r0sebutch · 3 years

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my gender is whatever the fuck kvothe from kkc has going on

#the fucking. feral little man energy.#walk up to the university like ‘your arcanist looks gnc af’ master linguist tells me ‘you’re insane’ and kicks me out #kkc #kingkiller chronicles #kvothe kingkiller

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bookcub · 3 years

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oh you know I gotta ask: kkc

ahhhhh thank you, so glad you joined the madness of this series XD

the first character i ever fell in love with: kvothe, seeing him at 12, absolute annoying know it all, so clever and so annoying, I related hard when I was 13

a character that i used to love/like, but now do not: bast. the lightning tree made me not like him and now i think he is creepy

a ship that i used to love/like, but now do not: I was never really into Bast x Kote but every time I reread, I realize more and more I don’t want their dynamic to become romantic

my ultimate favorite character™: I can never decide between Auri and Denna, I am very very attached to them both and can never get enough content for them

prettiest character: Fela!!! sooooo pretty!!!

my most hated character: Probably Hemme, he is so infuriating, I hate when teachers try to humiliate students and when their ultimate goal is not teaching.

my OTP: denna and kvothe but post therapy

my NOTP: uhhhh mola x wil was popular for a while and it felt too convenient for me and also mola is an aro lesbian in my eyes

favorite episode: hard to say what counts as an episode, but I love the sections of the University most

saddest death: oh my god, his parents!!! also so terrifying. that scene. . .chills every time

favorite season: I guess book 1. . .. maybe?

least favorite season: I suppose book 2???

character that everyone else in the fandom loves, but i hate: Bast and Elodin have never had my love, despite popular opinion

my ‘you’re piece of trash, but you’re still a fave’ fave: Kvothe smh. trash is a strong word but he is an absolute mess

my ‘beautiful cinnamon roll who deserves better than this’ fave: Auri and Denna for sure!!! because I can’t not put them here

my ‘this ship is wrong, nasty, and makes me want to cleanse my soul, but i still love it’ ship:

my ‘they’re kind of cute, and i lowkey ship them, but i’m not too invested’ ship: Sim x Fela x Wil *heart eyes* also I have written some stuff for Mola x Devi in the past but these days I think they would be in a qpr rather than a traditional romance

Send me a fandom!!!

#kkc #im really focused on the university stuff #always what ive connected to most #thank you so much!!#im really glad you can joint he madness now XD #sleepycyb0rg

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sunlit-music · 4 years

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More thoughts on the Kingkiller Chronicles books: I keep thinking of how Elodin would have annoyed his teachers as being clever but defiant, and now he’s annoying most of his students by being brilliant but hardly explaining anything clearly.

Imagine if he gave brilliant but vague or ridiculous answers to his university lecturers. How did he get away with it?

#kkc #the kingkiller chronicles #the name of the wind #the wise man’s fear #elodin #university #teachers #students #analysis #thoughts #headcanon

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teridax-the-467th · 5 years

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Inktober 24: Dizzy

Kvothe’s first time entering the Archives file under: pics taken before disaster

#michinktober19 #kvothe #kkc #kingkiller chronicle #the university #the archives #patrick rothfuss #dizzy #kvothe kingkiller

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incorrectkingkillerquotes · 4 years

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When I read WMF and Elodin's class is complaining about him not teaching Naming, I get super confused because I would love to do the shit he makes everyone else do... Until I remember they're paying tuition and Oh.

If I went to a free lecture, I'd be like, lol nice, love it. In a class. . .. yeah I would have transferred out of that. I get that part of the shenanigans are learning but man, it would feel like wasting money to me.

#kkc #looking at the University money stuff #you can tell the author went to college in the us #rip

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unapologetic-and-aesthetic · 4 years

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Fandom List

Feel free to request anything from the list below! (When i open requests)

Astrology Stuff

Avatar – TLA & TLK

Game of Thrones (Books & TV)

Lord of the Rings / The Hobbit

My Hero Akademia

Mythical Creatures and Ledgends

One Piece (Anime & live Action)

Over the Garden Wall

Sex Education (Netflix)

Stranger Things

Studio Gibli

The Witcher (Netflix)

>> This list is probably not complete, it will be updated regularly <<

>> I did Harry Potter/The wizarding world in the past, but i will not do it anymore, due to Rowlings actions, please understand. <<

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sublimegentlemanalpaca · 4 years

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The Young Magicians at the University of KKC....

(Some CotIG Spoilers and what not) Just an assortment of thoughts of the Young Magicians (Rose, Laura Glue, Edmund, Fred) finding themselves at the University from the King Killer Chronicle. You might say...but wait Al! Wouldn’t Fred be super busy with Caretaker Business and Edmund with Cartographer business? Not to mention Fred is a Badger? Well...yes...but...Edmund could easily be going to the Four Corners for Cartographer business? And as for Fred being a Badger...well...If I recall correctly Uncas has some glamour thing in the Dragons of Winter that makes him look like a short hairy man so it shouldn’t be impossible for Fred to get a similar Whatsit (not to be confused with either the Great Whatsit or Essential Little Whatsit of course)....and even if the KKC Four Corners (that’s what the land mass is called right?) is in another dimension or what have you....Bast has some Glamour about him so I imagine some similar Glamour could be attributed to Fred. That preface out of the way.... Classes the four would take.(looks into what was taught at the University again cause it’s been freakin ages). Fred: The Archives, the Artificery (because The Children of the Earth seem very adept at tinkering and such things), and....Alchemy (that’s like cooking right? But with Science?) wait! I forgot Linguistics! Yes. Edmund: Arithmetic, Artificery, Linguistics, Alchemy, probably Naming? I’m not sure if him being an Adept or not would assist in Sympathy? Probably would try everything once? Getting along with the respective Masters of each field is another matter. Laura Glue: Tag along for Artificery (how does she make her Wings anyhow?), Linguistics, Sympathy definitely, Naming for certain. Medica possibly? Rose Dyson: Linguistics (I mean, all the Young Magicians are language nerds so...), nothing in the text...but I think she might take an interest in the Medica?, Archive work, Sympathy, and definitely Naming. I think I’ve said enough about Poe and Elodin...so as for other characters... Rose would I imagine would get along with Auri were the two to ever meet The Young Magicians in general getting along with Kvothe’s University friends. I’m not sure if they’d get along with Kvothe? Going by the head canon of Edmund being musically inclined could see him playing at..I’ve forgotten the name of the place... And...I’ve forgotten my point...damn. There was something about pondering the relationship between Naming and Shaping in KKC with the addition of Making along with Naming from CotIG. Oh! I do recall thinking Edmund and Rose would enjoy learning and playing Tak. Although....given Poe was once Prospero...and the name of the Wind....hm...hell. Maybe Poe also happens to be Taborlain the great...or however you spell the name of that Famous Wizard in KKC. Make of this what you will. Al, the Chronographing Cottager and Prince of Naming

#CotIG #KKC #The Young Magicians #Rose Dyson #Laura Glue #Edmund McGee #Fred the Badger #Fred Tummuler (is Tummuler The last name for the Badgers or was it Tummuler’s first name?)#Crossovers #rambling #the King Killer Chronicle #the University of KKC #Auri #Chronicles of the Imaginarium Geographica #the Chronicles of the Imaginarium Geographica

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sixsep · 5 years

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I’m still reading the Wise Man’s Fear, and I still love Kvothe.

#kvothe kingkiller #kingkiller chronicle #fanart #the wise man's fear #the wise mans fear #the university #kkc #my art #digital painting #krita #myart

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ohlooklackless · 2 years

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I’m going to start using this place to dump all of my tinfoil hatting about KKC.

The University archives are not accidentally chaotic.They’re deliberately obscure to explain away the disappearance of books on certain topics that the master’s want to keep hidden.

Think about it. Kvothe describes the stacks:

Then there were the bad neighborhoods. Sections of the Archives that were forgotten, or neglected, or simply too troublesome to deal with at the moment. These were places where books were organized under old catalogs, or under no catalog at all. There were walls of shelves like mouths with missing teeth, where long-gone scrivs had cannibalized an old catalog to bring books into whatever system was fashionable at the time. Thirty years ago two entire floors had gone from good neighborhood to bad when the Larkin ledger-books were burned by a rival faction of scrivs.

Does this sound like anything that would be allowed by a man who has people like Viari searching the world for specific books? Who goes to great care to not allow anybody to even think about hurting them? Who bans students from the building rather than risk damage?

To me, it absolutely doesn’t.

Whether Lorren is a secret Amyr or not, there’s no way in hell he or his predecessors would allow the largest repository of written knowledge in the known world get this fucked up.

I fully believe this all has to do with the magic Denna mentions to Kvothe’s “magic where you write something down and it makes it true”.

They’re cultivating all the writing about stuff they want to be true and anything else is being unmade or hidden to make it less so.

#the kingkiller chronicle #kkc #the university #master lorren #kvothe #denna #tin foil hat #headcanon #Kingkiller headcanon #viari

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legendarypotat · 6 years

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Favorite female characters

Tagged by the awesome @xpyzkx

So female characters from different fandoms...

Just doing the top ten because the list could just go on forever.

10. Mabel Pines (Gravity Falls)

Mabel has taught me that you can still kick ass with a pink skirt. .

9. Winry Rockbell (FMAB)

Winry made me realize how cool engineering is.

8. Toph Beifong (ATLA)

Toph showed me that you don’t have to be “perfect” to be bad ass. But lets face it, she is perfection.

7. Auri (Kingkiller Chronicle)

There is something about Auri that makes me drawn to her. She is so full of mystery and grace, it’s hard not to get captivated by her character.

6. Peridot (Steven Universe)

A small package with a fiery persona... all I ever wanted.

5. Luna Lovegood (Harry Potter)

How do I even start with this lovely person? She is so full of confidence even though everyone sees her as weird and crazy. I love that she never gave a fuck about it and she kept being her.

4. Reyna Avila Ramirez Arellano (Heroes of Olympus)

So much potential with rotten luck. I don’t think I will survive The Burning Maze. Someone save my baby!

3.Shin Ae Yoo (I Love Yoo)

I relate to this character like you have no idea. Food taste and everything. We even have the same Myers Briggs Personality. Now that is just scary.

2. Pidge Gunderson / Katie Holt (Voltron)

She deserves the whole universe. So much determination. I admire her. It shouldn’t be a surprise she is on this list.

1. Hinata Hyuga (Naruto)

This might be kind of a surprise. She is one of the characters I really identified when I was younger. It’s so sad that this character receives so much hate for a stupid ship.

Time to play tag: @born-in-olympus @aledicapriohufflepuff96 @missyares @supreme-leader-jazlo-ren @raspberrykitten13 @nixthelapin @arylace @murasakihime and everyone else who is interested!

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cicinicole-14 · 3 years

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ALEX FINDS OUT JO’S PREGNANT WITH GRACIE. i need this like I need aid to breath coco. please, cheers and thank you

ofc anything for u babes!! also thanks for editing this💗

His head is pounding and the light on in the loft is way too bright. and whatever god awful sound that is coming from wherever, makes his stomach feel weak.

He tugs his pillow back over his head as the sound continues, not fully conscious to decipher what the noise was or where it was coming from, nor did he care. Until he reached out to tug Jo in closer, feeling her side of the bed, empty and cold. His head pops up, glancing around the loft and letting it sink in that the sounds he had been hearing were coming from their bathroom.

“Jo?” He calls out.

There’s a soft groan in response, but other than that, nothing else.

He sits up, padding across the floor and into the bathroom, seeing her curled up on the floor next to the bowl.

“How much did you drink last night?” He questions and she just groans again, dry heaving into the bowl. He scoops up her hair, holding it away from her face with one hand and rubbing her back with the other.

“I didn’t have anything to drink.” She says honestly.

Alex laughs dryly. “And neither did I.” He shoots back sarcastically.

Jo just whines before another wave of gagging passes through. “I’m serious, Alex, I didn’t have anything.”

Alex looks directly towards her face, trying to decide if she’s lying or not. She looks up at him, a disgruntled, tired look across her face he can’t seem to decipher.

“I really didn’t have anything to drink last night, Alex, I—“

“Did you eat something then? Was the food bad? Did we eat the same thing? Should I be worrying about puking my guts out? Did you catch a bug? You think you’re contagious?” He rambles on, cutting her off.

“No, Alex, it’s just morning sickness. You don’t have to worry. Nothing contagious...lucky you.” She says, her voice lowering sarcastically at the last part.

“Oh, okay. Good. I mean, not good, but I’m glad you know the reason. Can I get you anything?” He asks concernedly, the revelation going completely over his head.

Jo just shakes her head, sitting back from the toilet and leaning against the side of their bathtub, closing her eyes and breathing in carefully.

Alex releases his hold on her hair in the process, deciding to pick up her hand in turn and rubbing soothing circles on the back of her palm with his thumb, sitting down next to her.

He feels her lean into him, resting her head onto his shoulder and he presses a kiss to the crown of her head letting his lips linger for just a moment before he pulls back shocked.

“Wait, did you say morning sickness?” He says as the comment finally sinks in.

Jo laughs once before it dissolves into a groan. “I was wondering when you’d catch that.” She says, a small smile tugging at the corners of her lips.

“You’re pregnant? We’re gonna have a baby?” He says, excitement laced in his voice.

Jo doesn’t reply for a moment, but slowly pulls her head off of his shoulder and straightens up, facing him.

“I’m going to have a baby.” She says softly.

She watches the look of confusion flash across Alex’s eyes and then the realization settles in and his sudden excitement falters slightly.

“Alex, I’m sorry—”

Alex shakes his head, taking her other hand in his other, squeezing them both gently, looking her in the eyes. “We’re having a baby.” he states, certainty in his words.

Jo’s eyes well up with tears, her hormones clearly already out of sorts. “Alex, you can’t just go saying things like that, yet. This baby could easily be Schmidt’s—”

His scoffed laugh interrupts the rest of her sentence. “With the way we’ve been going at it, I don’t think so, but Jo, I don’t care.” He states. “I love you. I’m in this. I’ve already messed us up enough. I don’t care who’s kid it is, they’re mine, biology be damned. I’m not giving up on us again. I want you, I want us.”

He swipes away the tears rolling down her cheeks with the pads of his thumbs, resting his forehead against hers, breathing her in.

“You’re sure? Even if it ends up being his baby? Because you can’t just tell me you’re all in and then we find out it’s not your kid. It’ll wreck me, Alex, and I don’t think I could handle—”

“I’m all in, Jo.” He reassures her. Leaning in, he presses a kiss to her forehead, cradling her head in his palms now, holding her tightly.

Together they sit in silence on the bathroom floor before she breaks the silence minutes later. “I love you too.” Falling from her lips.

#kkc universe #jolex #cici writes

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libralita · 7 years

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Why doesn't The University have a first year orientation so the professors say "hey, little idiots, don't use fucking magic to hurt someone or we'll whip and expel your ass"?

#patrick rothfuss #name of the wind #kingkiller chronicle #kkc #the university

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coat-the-boneless · 6 years

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yknow whatd be cool

a fic in the world of stormlight in which a guy dresses up like a girl because he wants to learn how to read/write/do “feminine stuff”

like a reverse girl-dresses-as-a-guy-to-go-to-war trope

#reverse mulan in stormlight #i feel like i shouldn't stormlight spam on a kkc account #fuckit #i do what i want #yknow WHAT this could be in its own universe #its own story #i feel an oc coming on

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