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disquietiswhatitis · 16 days

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Let’s try this again :)

My last poll wasn’t organized as well as it should have been. I got lazy and condensed way too many possibilities into the “Other” option. I know the primary reason why people voted that way but it still felt too chaotic. I tried to be more thorough this time around but I’m still sorry to the rarepairs I couldn’t include in a 12-answer max poll. I saw a handful of people mention some poly ships but unfortunately, I couldn’t include them either for the same reason. Similarly, I also eliminated the “show me the results” option. You want to see the results, you gotta vote lol.

BEFORE YOU COMMENT: Cat Grant isn’t included because I already know that she’s the second most popular Kara ship. I knew that even before my last attempt at a poll and probably shouldn’t have included her then, even as an “Other” option. No hate to the people who like that ship, I’m just more interested in seeing people’s preferences beyond that.

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lumadreamland · 6 months

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#supergirledit #supergirl #karolsen #karolsenedit #mine #mine:sg

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frosty-the-killer-doll · 3 months

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best as friends, a queerplatonic karolsen collection - supergirl s1e18 world's finest // supergirl s1e7 human for a day // supergirl s3e19 the fanatical // jane austen // supergirl s1e7 human for a day // supergirl s1e3 fight or flight // supergirl s2e1 the adventures of supergirl // supergirl s1e16 falling // lover i don't have to love by bright eyes // euripedes, translated by anne carson // to be alive by gregory orr // supergirl s1e18 world's finest // queerplatonic relationship - lgbtqia.wiki

#karolsen #arrowverse #arrowverse polycule au #kara danvers #james olsen #supergirl #supergirl cw #cw supergirl #queerplatonic #web weave #web weaving

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shezowhero · 2 years

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Virichie and fandom racism towards ships with black characters.

I may not ship Virichie as hard as I do Static X Frieda but I’m glad and appreciate it being popular cause interracial ships with black characters and ships with black characters in general get very screwed over by fandoms. Black characters get very screwed over when it comes to shipping.

They face alot of backlash and hate. Black characters in interracial ships with white characters especially get alot of hate and backlash. In fact people will lose their absolute god damn minds when black characters are paired up with white characters.

Ships with black characters often get the least fan content if they get any at all. They’re the least popular ship. They could be a ship that’s been canon for a long time but be the least popular ship in the fandom like Guardianbee for example. Guardianbee has been canon in Teen Titans for a very long time but its the least popular ship and has very little fan content. It doesn’t help that they’re not together in alot of media and the Teen Titans are more outside of comics so its a lack of exposure and racism.

They will make up all kinds of excuses to to why they don’t ship ships with black characters in them. They’ll things like “They’re just friend” or “Why can’t men and women just be friends” and I totally get this as a girl who had alot of guy friends as a kid and was always asked if we liked each other but people say this alot to ships with characters of color. They say it way too much that its weird. The only one I agree with is Star and Marco. And its never said to all white ships that should just be friends. Also what’s wrong with interracial friends to lovers ? Interracial best friends to lovers is really cool. Its one of the things I like about Virichie and Static x Frieda.

Another excuse is Familyzone, they say they’re like family or like siblings or they’ll straight up say its incest when its clearly not. They try to familyzone them when it’s never stated in canon that the characters see each other as family. Its more of a fan interpretation or headcanon. I see people trying to familyzone Virichie saying that Virgil and Richie are brothers but its never stated in the show that they see each other as brothers. Its just a fan interpretation. Just because you see them as brothers doesn’t mean we everyone else sees them as brothers. I also use to see Virgil and Richie as brothers but not anymore so I get why people do but maybe don’t say that about a interracial ship. I still see them as family but not in a incest way but in a ”they’re a important part of the family like a family friend” way.

Another excuse they say is its forced while at the same time shipping a all white ship that’s forced. I understand not liking ships that are forced but just like the they’re just friends excuse they say this alot about ships with black characters and interracial ships. And like I said before the only one I agree with is Star and Marco. People ship white characters together all willy nilly all the time but they’re not willing to do the same with black characters and characters of color.

Another excuse when it comes to black women is she too strong. The strong black women trope. The strong independent women trope is progress for white women but its not progress for black women and women of color. You’re saying that black women and women of color don’t deserve love. You’re denying their humanity. Not every black woman is strong and not every black woman can be strong.

My favorite excuse is the “They don’t like good together” Its my favorite cause its very obviously racist like they do not hear themself. It doesn’t matter if they don’t look good together its about the chemistry, how they make each other grow and how the relationship fits the characters and story and other actual shipping reasons. “They don’t look good together” is a very shallow and racist reason to not ship a interracial ship.

The next excuse(s) is a big lie and its “There’s no good well written black characters to ship” and ”there’s no good ships with black characters” The reason why its a totally lie is that there’s alot of good black characters. You just need to consume more diverse media especially diverse media that star black characters. The problem though is that when people do consume diverse media they still only focus on white characters. I see this in the Static Shock fandom with Hotstreak and to a extent Richie. So consume more diverse media and stop focusing so much on the white characters. The whole “there’s no good ships with black characters” It sounds like they’re only caring about canon ships and there’s alot of good ships with black characters that aren’t canon and there’s good ones that are canon. You’re just not looking hard enough. As a mainly canon shipper you don’t always have to ship canon ships especially if they’re not good. Talisto Talia X Mephisto from Lolirock is a good ship and a low key crack ship and its one of the most popular ships in the fandom and it has a black girl in it. People will ship random white characters together all the time but won’t do the same with black characters and characters of color. Talisto isn’t treat as a crackship, if people can ship that than you can ship ships with black characters in them. There’s alot of good black characters and alot of good ships with black characters you’re just not paying attention to them.

Besides making up excuses to why they don’t ship interracial ships with black characters they will make a all white ship to go against it. Reylo and Snowbarry are good example of this. We call them racist ships cause they were made to erase a black character from their romantic relationships whether it’s canon or heavily shipped in the fandom like Finnrey. Reylo was very much created to keep Finn away from Rey and you can tell by how racist Reylo shippers are to Finn and his actor John. Snowbarry was created before the show even aired on TV when only the trailer was out after it was announced Iris was casted as a black girl. Reylo shippers and Snowbarry shippers act the same way to Finn and Iris. And I see this in the Static Shock fandom with the ship Hotgear Hotstreak X Richie. Hotgear was very much created to go against Virichie in the same way Reylo and Snowbarry were except they’re not all that toxic and racist to Static but it’s still very much erases Static in his own story, his own fandom and is white prioritization or white favorism.

White prioritization is when white characters are prioritize over characters of color despite the characters of color being more important like being the main character like Static. Static Shock is a black lead cartoon when it comes to diverse media you shouldn’t be shipping the only 2 white characters together unless it’s canon cause its racist to only focus on the only white characters in a diverse show. Virichie has no way or power to become canon but Hotgear was very much created to go against cause its heavily shipped in the fandom. Even if not all Hotgear shippers are racist it’s the existence of the ship that’s racist. It doesn’t need to exist. Same with Reylo and Snowbarry. You don’t have to ship Virichie but you don’t need create and ship a rival ship to go against it especially if it made to erase a black character.

This is apart of Fandom racism. Fandom racism is the rejecting of diversity in fandoms and media and the attempt to push characters of color and fans of color out of fandoms to focus on white people, white characters and white fans. Refusing to ships with black characters is apart of Fandom racism.

And it doesn’t matter what type of relationship a black character is in. It doesn’t matter if its a black man with a white girl, it doesn’t matter if its a black girl with a white guy, it doesn’t matter if its a gay, straight or bi ship. It doesn’t matter if its a black character with another person of color. It doesn’t matter if its a black character with another black character. It also doesn’t matter if it’s canon, hinted/being built up to be canon or meant to be canon or canon in past or other materials like comics. It also doesn’t matter if its some what popular, shippable and well liked, it will get hate, backlash and have the least fan content.

For the black man with white girl part I was thinking of Finnrey and Karolsen. Sure black man are paired up with white women alot in media but never in a big sci fi franchise like Star Wars. Comics do it alot too but never in comic adaptations like the Supergirl TV show. The racist backlash to Finnrey and Karolsen is why I don’t care that black men and white women are paired alot with each other but I do agree media should do other types of interracial relationships besides them.

Finn and Rey actually were going to get together but Disney decide against, most likely cause of the racist backlash. The worst part is that Finn and Rey didn’t even get together, and racists were still threatened by a black man being with a white girl. Besides being meant to be canon, it was just a strong possibility that Finn and Rey were going together and that drive’s them crazy. To this day they’re still racist about Finn. Racist fans treated Finn and James like they were the Black brute trope. Like they were sexual threats to white women which is apart of the Black brute trope but they’re the nicest, sweetest guys in their series.

For the black girl with white guy part I was mostly thinking of Westallen but also Thorkyrie and any time a black girl is paired with a white guy. I’ve made posts about this before with Winx Club about how black women hardly get to be the love interest or get to have a love interest especially a non black love interest. And by love interest I mean the endgame love interest cause the few times they get to be a love interest they’re not the endgame love interest and the white character they were a love interest to gets with a white love interest. A very good example of this is Danny Phantom with Valerie and Danny and how he got with Sam. We call this the Disposable Black Girlfriend trope or Disposable Black love interest trope cause it happens to black men too.

Back to Westallen remember when I said people will straight up say a interracial ship is incest. They do this to Westallen all the time just because Iris’s dad Joe took Barry in when his mom died and his dad was arrested. Barry only see’s Joe as a father figure. Barry and Iris don’t see or think of each other as siblings. They never acted as siblings. The show never states that they’re siblings just best friends. I’m against incest ships too but Westallen isn’t incest. Keep in mind that Iris has always been Barry’s love interest in the comics, y’know other material. People never had a problem with their relationship until Iris was black.

For the gay bi ships part I was thinking of Dansen and Thundergrace. The Arrowverse has alot of femslash ships but the ones with white women are the only ones that are really popular and some of them aren’t even canon. The Supergirl TV fandom likes to act like they were queerbaited and that there was no lesbian representation but they weren’t queerbaited and there is lesbian representation with Kelly and Alex but since Kelly is black they don’t care, almost as if she don’t count as representation cause she’s black. Kelly and Alex even got married at the end of the show how’s that not representation ? Its a example of how when people say they want LGBT representation they mean white LGBT representation.

This is getting too long so its time to talk about the most important part so really listen to this part. This isn’t about shipping, this is about a pattern in fandoms in how black characters are treated. Its about how you think black characters are unworthy of being loved. Its about how if this is how you feel about and treat fictional black characters then how do you feel about and treat real black people outside of fandoms ? You probably don’t treat real black people good. If this is how you feel about and think about fictional interracial couples than how do feel and think about real interracial couples ? Probably not good. This is about how black fans and fans of color feel unsafe and unwelcome in fandoms.

We live in a society were white people are the default cause they made themselves the default. So when white people are not the focus they get mad. Which is why ships with black characters are less popular cause fandoms are very white dominant. By always attacking black characters and ships with black characters has made black fans and fans of color feel unsafe and unwelcome in fandoms making them leave fandoms or have low interacts in fandoms causing black characters and ships with black characters to have less fan content and be less popular. Black fans are the pillars that hold up black characters and ships with black characters up besides unracist white fans. Black fans and fans of color support ships with black characters and characters of color more than white fans. They are more likely to support them than white fans. I have seem white fans shipping Virichie but the major are black fans since it’s a major black fandom. Some of the most recent Virichie fan art have been by white fans. There are Pick me POCs/ White align people of color with internalized racism that are racist to other fans of color and characters of color and its important to point them out cause they are just as hurtful and racist as racist white people.

Virichie being so popular with everyone is so important. The only time I’ve seen a whole fandom ship a interracial ship is the WordGirl fandom with Tobecky (WordGirl X Tobey). Interracial ships with black characters aren’t that popular. Gay bi slash interracial ships like Virichie are especially not popular. The closest I’ve seen be popular is Finnpoe from Star Wars. Virichie being popular is a good thing. The only problems I have with Virichie is that alot of fan content mainly alot of fanfics focuses more on Richie and his point of view of the relationship than Virgil. This is the slight White prioritization towards Richie I mention earlier. I’ve only seen one person point this problem out. There’s only a few fanfics that focus on Virgil’s point of view on the relationship. I like it when there’s fics that give both of their point of views. Like what does Virgil think of being in a relationship with Richie ? How does he feel about liking his best friend ? I also don’t like how it dominants the fan content for Static Shock especially fanfics. There’s almost no gen fanfics and the gen fics that are there are unfinished most likely abandon. Virichie has good fanfics but I don’t always read fics for shipping so it’s a bit annoying.

Virichie being popular is a good thing. Characters of color in general get screwed by shipping but black characters get it much worst. The only time I see characters of colors being in popular ships are light skin east Asian characters especially from Asian media like anime and Latino/Hispanic characters. Shipping is a big part of fandom, it can say some things about a person. Ship what you want but don’t be surprised when people think you’re racist for refusing to ship ships with black characters and interracial ships with black characters especially when there’s nothing wrong them and black fans are okay with them. There’s nothing wrong with Virichie, there’s nothing with Friegil (Static X Frieda ) there’s nothing wrong with Karolsen, there’s nothing wrong with Finnrey, there’s nothing wrong with Dansen and there’s nothing wrong with Westallen and other interracial ships with black characters that get alot of hate for no reasons other than racism.

#Static Shock #Virgil Hawkins #Richie Foley #fandom racism #finnrey #westallen #Karolsen #dansen #friegil #fandomshatepeopleofcolor #supergirl #anti reylo #anti snowbarry #anti hotgear

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bakerolivias-archived · 2 years

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it's such a concerningly common pattern for people to ship a white woman and her abuser when a kind, gentle, and good black male character is right there, has a healthy and supportive relationship with the white woman, and the dynamic has more chemistry (but y’all have the nerve to call the white woman and black man a brotp). today's youth are truly lost

#anti jarley #anti joker #anti karamel #anti mon-el #karolsen #quinnshot #annabelle speaks #idec the only acceptable age to genuinely ship harley and joker is if you are twelve #kara danvers #james olsen #harley quinn #floyd lawton #suicide squad #supergirl

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pricemarshfield · 1 year

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rewatching supergirl s2 for supersawyer reasons. it is still so funny that clark accidentally implied he’s in a throuple with himself

#when supergirl is good…its pretty fucking good #anyway. mad about karolsen being shafted again #my life rn

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handlewithcharacter · 7 months

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I was reading your tags for Kara/Lena and Drarry and got so curious about the supergirl fandom what happened??? Was the supergirl actress homophobic?? The one who was in glee and that’s why she wasn’t?!?

OH MY GOD OKAY I AM SO SORRY FOR WHAT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN

The place? San Diego Comic Con. The year? 2017. Everything seems normal. Casts of shows are doing interviews, cracking jokes, it's a good time. And then the Supergirl cast are interview by MTV. And Jeremy Jordan sings a little musical recap of the previous season, in which he jokes that Kara and Lena are just friends. Well, I say joked...he very enthusiastically insists they're just friends. It is, shall we say, tactless. The cast seems surprised but are all laughing to various extents. Later on in the interview they're asked about shipping, and Jeremy Jordan says he's probably going to get some hate for his having "debunked Supercorp." Melissa Benoist tells him that he's "very brave."

Thus ends the part of this story that physically takes place at Comic Con 2017, but the real drama is just getting started.

(the page break is here for dramatic effect, but also because this somehow got very long)

You have to understand, anon, this is in between the second and third seasons of Supergirl. Karamel (Kara and Mon-El) were season 2's highly divisive power couple and the Karamel stans were making it everyone's business to know they had come out of the season on top. And you'd think they'd be in the midst of a great ship war with Karolsen (Kara and James) who decided to just be friends at the start of the season, but nope! No, their big enemy was the Supercorp fans. It was heated. It was tense. There was a block list that got circulated.

I'd say the Supergirl ship wars were the worst I'd ever encountered, but I would go on to join the Timeless fandom, and learned the very hard lesson of why small fandoms and ship wars should not mix. That being said, I'd put the Supercorp/Karamel drama as worse than the Clexa/Bellarke drama, if that helps put things into context for you at all.

So, suffice it to say, the internet was in upheaval over this.

Since I was firmly on the Supercorp side of the Supercorp/Karamel divide at the time, I can't say with much certainty how Karamel shippers reacted, though I assume they were pleased with themselves. But Supercorp fans were not okay. See, anon, I don't know when you started your journey into fandom, but in case it was after this, 2017 was a much different time. Lesbian ships weren't really shipped with the intention of them becoming canon since it was only recently that lesbian ships had started becoming canon, and wlw fandom spaces were all still reeling from the Great Lesbian Purge of 2016, in which roughly 40% of the canon queer women on television were killed off during the television season. (To this day I will watch shows and a queer woman will unexpectedly die for seemingly only shock value, and I'll be horrified, until I see the date the episode aired. Spring of 2016? Yeah, that tracks. Deep sigh. Lost another one to the Bury Your Gays.) Lesbian ships did not have the strength in canon that straight ships had, or the mainstream nerd appeal that gay male ships had. Not only did you have to contend with bitter ship wars, you had to contend with everyone telling you that you shouldn't be shipping the ship in the first place, that having a vested interest in a ship that would never happen was a lost cause and a question of sanity. To be a fan of a wlw ship was to be shut down at every single turn when you weren't even asking to go down the road and were just looking to see a potential view.

(Supercorp was far from the only ship to ever have to put up with this. If you take a look at fandom history, you'll see this countless times. Heck, the Xena fans who wanted Xena to end up with Ares were very determined that the lesbians would not overtake their show.)

But for some people, Supercorp was their first wlw ship. Their first queer community. Their first validation that it wasn't wrong to look at the main character of an incredibly popular show and wonder what it would be like if she kissed her same-gender best friend. I sincerely hope, anon, that whatever flavor you may favor, you have found that kind of validation in your media. It's liberating.

And now here you had Jeremy Jordan and Melissa Benoist "debunking" the myth that Kara and Lena could ever have feelings for each other. In all ways except physical, it was like the Supercorp fandom had just participated in the ice bucket challenge. And, whether it was as part of the Supergirl fandom or elsewhere, the Supercorp fans had already been through hell. It got ugly. Then there were memes. Then there was a lot of hate tweeting. Then there were people yelling about the hate tweeting. Mostly everyone was just a weird mix of angry and sad. These were two actors, two of the leads on this show, engaging in this behavior. It was a gut punch when everyone was already down.

Friday night, Jeremy Jordan releases an apology. It's not really an apology. It's an "I'm sorry you're upset" with a lot of condemnation and self defense. It has the general vibes that we'd describe in 2023 as "it's not that deep," but instead of addressing it to the fans, he condescendingly addresses it "Hey Kids."

Yeah, he'd spend the weekend regretting that.

Sunday, Jeremy Jordan would put out another apology. It was a sincere one this time, admitting he messed up and didn't truly understand the implications of what he was saying or the deep roots of homophobia in fandom culture. Most people accepted this - he was an idiot who made a mistake. Time would tell if he made it again. (Spoiler alert: he did not.) Some people, however, are still mad.

And then there was Melissa Benoist. Mind you, I don't think she personally acknowledged any of this at all. But her publicist sent out a statement (according to the fact checking I'm doing as I write this, it was in a private email to a fan, who then posted the response to tumblr) that Melissa was a proven ambassador of LGBT acceptance, as shown by her work on Glee. Uh, yeah. So that became a meme.

This, more or less, is where our story ends, unless you count a since-deleted Blind Item put out by TVLine that may or may not have been about the cast of Supergirl (but was heavily speculated to be about the cast of Supergirl) in which someone overheard two actors fighting before an interview the following day about one of their behavior, that ended when the other said "I just can't talk about this right now." (I am so bummed I cannot link this article, anon, you have no idea.) (The leading theory was that Katie McGrath, who of course came to Supergirl already having amassed a sizable queer following from her role in Merlin and also possibly her role in Dracula, gave Mr. Jordan a piece of her mind about what was and wasn't acceptable to say to a queer fan.)

And that's my tale. In addition to the season they were promoting, the cast of Supergirl would go on to do four more seasons and manage to get out of the Arrowverse without overstaying their welcome or being cancelled unceremoniously. And they moved on. Jeremy Jordan went back to New York, where he returned to Broadway and Off-Broadway and he's soon to be Off-Off-Broadway in the premiere of The Great Gatsby: the Musical. He also along the way ended up playing one of Hallmark's very first gay main characters. Katie McGrath went on to be a bisexual character on an Irish show, do the audiobook narration for a lesbian period romance novel, and is a masked evil lady in the new John Wick tv show. And Melissa Benoist went on to do a lot of incredible things in her personal life that don't necessarily belong in this little essay I've written here.

Genuinely, I wish everyone in that cast all the best.

Anon, I am so sorry this got as long as it did. I hope this answered your question!

#tl;dr it was a bunch of silly drama #and no one is actually homophobic #also me saying melissa did incredible stuff in her personal life isn't tongue in cheek or anything #I just didn't want to muddle those accomplishments by making them some kind of redeeming end to this story #because it's not relevant #and also her story doesn't need redeeming #this was wild drama but it was also just a moment #so please do not take away from this that i think any of them are bad people or anything to that effect #can't believe i can spend two hours fiercely dedicated to writing this but not any of the actual essays i have to write #would you believe i actually took out a whole little tangent?#it was about agents of sheild and skimmons #god i have to wake up in like four hours #asks

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childofsquidward · 1 year

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Top 10 favorite ships involving POC in 10 different fandoms

Tagged by @freddieslater so long ago that they probably had a different username when they tagged me

1. PriyaxRam aka PriRa (Bade Achhe Lagte Hain 2)

2. MachixYuki aka YuChi (Fruits Basket)

3. Zamaya + Zarlie + Zarlie 2.0 aka I’m gonna cheat and put in every possible version of Tala and Maisie’s characters because Talasie’s chemistry deserved more and if I could find a gif of Amaya and Zari Tarazi just know that it would be here (Legends of Tomorrow)

4. AmyxJake aka Peraltiago because they will always be on every single one of these lists

5. Layla/AishaxMusa aka SonicWave (Winx Club)

6. MGxEthan aka Methan (Legacies)

7. TorixAndré aka Tandré (Victorious)

8. TabithaxJughead aka Jabitha, but also shout out to every Tabitha ship ever because Tabitha Tate is my favourite character and I love the dynamics that she shares with every character, anyway moving on (Riverhell Riverdale)

9. JamesxKara aka Karolsen (Supergirl)

10. Love Square (Miraculous Ladybug)

Tagging: @tellywoodtrash @darwinquark @shaonsim @lightninginmyeyes @infp-obsessing-over-everything and anyone else who wants to do this

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afaims100arrowversefavs · 2 years

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28. The Killiam-Romance, that was supposed to finally move forward in Season 6 (Supergirl)

When asked about Season 6 between the Covid-Shutdown and the start of filming the Final Season the one thing we were told would happen in Season 6 was, that the „slow burning romance between Kara and William would continue“. And of course nothting of that sort happened. As soon as Kara was back on Earth, we learned William had started dating someone else, and the topic was never brought up again.

Now, I know that there were many fans, that were against that romance, but that was not even the reason the writers dropped that storyline, they dropped it because it was the last season and Supergirl is supposed to be single because having a partner, especially a male one, is anti-feminist. Only singles rule (which is why they split up Harley and Ivy in the Comicy by the way). So no the frozen burn romance just totally stopped.

If that would not have been the case William’s Death would have least been really tragic, but maybe that was the the main reason they gave up on the romance alltogether, because they felt that they couldn’t have killed of William, if he and Kara would have gotten serious at some point. Well, if that is the case, one more reason to actually have the romance: Because then William would not have died.

In any case, they just forgot about that romance, so they could spend even less time with Kara once she was back than they did when she was trapped in the Phantom Zone. By giving her a love life she would have had at least some character development beyond PTSD and totally giving up on Kara Danvers in the final season. But since they wanted her to only be Supergirl as much as possible in the Final Season, they were probably glad to have one less reason for her to put on the Kara Danvers-Persona so to speak.

In six seasons Kara had three major romances, that all lead nowhere, in all three cases because the writers lost interest. Compare that to what was going on in all the other Arrowverse Shows - even „Batwoman“ finally managed to get a long time romance in with Season 3, but „Supergirl“ was just an example for the fact that women, who date men, are seen as weak and are not hero-material in the eyes of the world, while men get to date women and be heroes all the time. So much for feminism.

And they did not even have them date for a little bit and then split up, no, this was even worse than the Karolsen-Shit they pulled back at the beginning of Season 2. They spent an entire season building something up, only to have it not happen at all. Back to Built Up with no Pay-Off again. That is the general writing of „Supergirl“ for you in a nutshell.

#Arrowverse #More Top 100 Storylines we never got to see #Supergirl #Supergirl Season 6 #Kara Danvers #William Dey #Killiam

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lucydonato · 2 years

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if buckt*ylors want to see writers ACTUALLY try to retcon a relationship may I direct them to how dirty the cw did karolsen

#me? still bitter after like five years? yeah

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disquietiswhatitis · 2 years

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Imagine Karolsen having a real relationship before breaking up. They get to talking at the Dansen wedding reception, thinking about how odd it is that they’re both Aunt and Uncle, respectively, to Esme. James makes a comment about how if someone had told him when they first met that he’d be at a Danvers-Olsen wedding six years later, this wasn’t what he would’ve expected. Kara chuckles and agrees. They exchange declarations of pride in each other at how far they’ve come. They jokingly rib each other about the time they dated, the good and the “bad” (Kara doesn’t miss his snoring, James doesn’t miss her food bill.) There’s love there - not romantic, not anymore, but it’s still love.

Then they hear the song change and both feel a tiny little tap on their legs. It’s their adorable little niece, asking “Would one of you dance with me?”

“Of course sweetheart!” They say in unison. They turn to each other with a raised eyebrow. They ask Esme who she wants to dance with and she tells them “I’m not picky. I love you both!” she declares. They both smile and melt at that before telling her “We love you too!” They lightheartedly argue over which of them should get the right to dance with Esme first, fun uncle Jimmy (he does not like being called “Funcle James”) or awesome aunt Kara, before Kara concedes. “Don’t worry Aunt Kara, I wanna dance with you next!” and Kara just smiles back at her. She loves her niece so much.

As James takes Esme by the hand to lead their niece to the dance floor, he looks over Kara’s shoulder and mentions to her “chin up, it looks like there’s another beautiful woman nearby who’d love to dance with you.” As Esme places her feet on top of her uncle’s shoes, Kara feels a tap on her shoulder. She’s greeted by the most beautiful eyes and a warm smile of a woman wearing a very deep cut purple dress. Kara blushes instantaneously at the sight of her girlfriend.

“Hey you.”

#kara danvers #james olsen #lena luthor #karolsen #supercorp #supergirl #esme danvers #esme danvers olsen #esme olsen danvers #did they establish what her legal name is? Like what’s the deal there?#quick blurb

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bakerolivias-archived · 2 years

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i just remembered why i quit the flarrowverse (mostly supergirl and legends, i never watched the flash or arrow) and t100 fandom, and the way i would make a post about a ship i liked, for example karolsen or rellamy (or even just bellamy) and fucking suppercrop or CL stans would make unnecessary comments in the replies about a post that has nothing to do with them and reblog the post for no reason to shit on it

like maybe stay in your fucking lane??

#sit the fuck down #jfc #idc if we have a different opinion about a ship but there's no need to be like 'is this satire'#if i say james is kara's best love interest #anyways idk why i made this post just ignore me :p #wank for ts #annabelle speaks

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shewhotellsstories · 3 years

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Kat Graham, Candice Patton, Mehcad Brooks, and Azie Tesfai all deserve so much better.

I’d pretty much given up on TVD by this point but I saw some screen shots on twitter a few weeks back that said circa 2016 Delena stans leaked Kat’s phone number, which is just awful. But I vividly remember reading the youtube comments (clearly I’m a masochist) in high school and seeing Bonnie get called a judgemental bitch for so much as breathing wrong at the Salvatore brothers. Never-mind that they frequently brought death and danger into her life.

And the cherry on top of this sundae of fandom racism. The actors who are literally just doing a job have to see the things you demons tweet at them. And it seems like they don’t get much support from the network.

Again, they all deserve so much better.

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