#jikook the inseparable
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It's been over a week
And I'm still trying to digest and come to terms with it.
I know I said that I take comfort in them being together, and I got to say, that is a big big help in dealing with their departure, and yet, can't help but be sad and worry like a mom that just sent her kids off to the army.
Watching JM's live with JK's that followed (a few hours later and after their family dinner) was heart wrenching. JM struggling with his shaved hair was heartbreaking.
This clearly was not easy for them.
JM the next day (in the BTB).
I can't help but wonder, after the initial annoyance of getting a minute or a little more from the two's enlistment day, if the whole thing was just too emotional and more than what they themselves wanted to share publicly.
Again, seeing how JM is struggling, and JK knowing and comforting him. That look on JM's face when JK does that. Ugh, how I wish they didn't have to go through this. But they did. They are. And now it's time to come to terms with it.
I guess having lived it, done the army thing, gone through basic training and military service I have a little more insight as to what they will be going through, and that also gives me some comfort, because yes, it's going to be hard, both the physical and mental aspects of it. The structure, the loss of individuality, the harsh physical and mental training. But, a. they are 2 of the most driven people I have seen, a work ethic and a need to excel, and they will attack this (so to speak) no differently; b. they have been through so much getting to where they have gotten. Yes, the structure is a little different, but they are no strangers to being in a structured environment, told what to do, when to do it, how to do it. Basically, they are used to doing what they are told. Strenuous physical activity is no stranger to them as well. Experiencing struggles teaches you that you can prevail. Teaches you that you are strong enough to get through it. Teaches you that there is a light at the end of that tunnel. And knowing that, at times of hardship, can mean everything to the person going through that.
Their age, being mostly older than others enlisting (most do so at 18-21) has it's advantages and disadvantages. Advantages being having that insight and life experience that they have, especially starting their careers at such a young age. Disadvantage being that at this age they are all grown up, as in mostly know who they are, what they want to do with their life. Having to leave all of that at the door is not easy and takes adjusting to. But they are resilient. And their life experience and struggles they went through over the years will, as mentioned, definitley help them get through this as well.
For my sanity and mental well being I'm going to ignore the geo-political fuckery going on right now. Does willing things not to happen make them not happen? I'm going to go with yes on this. Don't you dare contradict me here. Let me live in my fantasy world at least on this one.
So yeah, it definitely won't be easy. Having each other's back there will definitley help, although having to keep their hands off each other in public will definitley be a challenge they will have to deal with. I digress. They will be ok. They have each other. They will get through this, and who knows, perhaps at some point (probably not basic training, cause that sucks) they might even enjoy their service (enjoy what they will be doing, feel satisfaction in their contribution to their country, who knows...).
And yet, knowing all of this, I'm still sad.
Because I already miss the shit out of them.
And it's kind of funny, because I know there is plenty of content coming up, including actual Jikook content, like just the two of them without the group as a buffer content, and that is definitely something to look forward to. And it's not like we were seeing them on a daily or even weekly basis before they enlisted (there were periods of time we were parched with them not to be seen or heard from for ages).
But this feels different. I guess knowing that even if they wanted to reach out, at the moment, they can't. Knowing that there isn't a chance of a JK restaurant visit popping up, or a surprise live makes it all so very real.
I'm not going to do the day counting. For me, that makes dealing with it harder. Maybe when we are down to two digits, definitely not before. I think I will just sit back, enjoy the new content they share with us, go through old content (there is so much out there, enough to definitely get me through the next 18 months, sob sob).
As for myself, well I'm not going anywhere.
Yes, I have something going on right now and am posting less often, but I'm still here, still around and will be posting and answering your messages.
We will all get through this together.
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Love should breed love
Jikook have been inseparable since debut. If you can't accept their relationship after 10 yrs maybe you should find another group to stan.
Post Date: 22/11/2023
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Why do you think Jimin decided to travel the world for 3 weeks without Jungkook back in 2019?
Here is a few things:
•They could have gotten a Tokyo 2.0, but decided not to.
•The little glimpses we got from JK during that time,... he looked quite sad
•I feel it in my gut that Jikook had a pivotal moment during their summer break in 2019.
I am not usually confident on speaking about Jikook fights/breaks seeing as I wasn't Army yet. As a late comer I only have others to rely on and I can't trust that 100%. It's always gonna be better consuming content in real time.
That being said 😁
I do agree with most assessments that something was a bit wonky in 2019. And while what Jimin did for JK's birthday was HUGE and sweet and amazing, I do feel like it happened for a reason. Almost like it was crucial for him to do so. Like, think about it.
He went to great lengths to make it for that birthday. And he was only there for a short period before he had to leave again.
Jimin spent more time travelling than with JK. But for some reason he just had to be there. Something about this has always seemed...not sus, no. But like there was more to it. You know what I mean?
And we haven't even factored in the photo Jimin uploaded where its pretty clear JK had been crying. Why would JK cry on his birthday? My theory, which isn't really mine but rather an existing theory that I agree with, is that mans did not expect so see Jimin and was hella relieved that Mimi showed up.
Jimin had taken off for however long the Tannies were on holiday for, without JK and the latter thought for sure his bf wasn't going to be there for his birthday. We know this because the whole thing was a surprise.
Also, this was around the time (2018-2019) members were moving out of the dorm and getting their own places so we know Jikook had been inseparable until this point. And while it has always been common knowledge that Jimin had other friends outside of BTS, that wasn't the case for JK.
So members are scattered doing their own thing with their friends and family and JK is in Seoul doing what? Jikook are interdependent we already know this and JK's person is travelling Europe without him. So probably the very first time in years they've been away from eo, for this amount of time.
I can see this affecting satellite Jeon big time. And so when he's already accepted Jimin will be MIA for his big day, BOOM! their friend helps Jimin organise the surprise party for JK.
If Jikook were fighting like many seem to think, then JK was prolly so happy to see Jimin. He didn't expect him, for one. And also he didn't know how long the fight was gonna last for, so the waiting had prolly been torture. So Jimin showing up must have made JK so relieved and happy. Poor baby
That he went and tattooed JM on his hand to show his gratitude? His devotion? His commitment? Who knows 🤷🏽♀️
So why do I think they fought u ask? I do not know, anon. I wasn't around. But theories that make sense to me;
Jimin wanted them to enjoy their holiday separately?
They'd been inseparable for 8 years and Jimin thought some space would do them good?
Jimin wanted them to hang out with other people rather than just each other?
All theories insinuate whatever separation was happening during this time was Jimin's call. Because if it was up to JK they would spend 24/7 together and he would be just fine. As long as he has Jimin, is all good.
And because Jimin knows his baby has separation anxiety, he made sure to @least come back for JK's birthday. Even if it would only be for a few hours before he was off traveling again.
#jikook theories#jikook theory#ask shaz#bts ask#jikook#kookmin#minkook#jimin and jungkook#jimin#jungkook#jikook fights#jikook birthdays
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Looking at jikook's behaviour especially from the last 2-3 years, it's apparent that they are pretty inseparable. From spending a lot of time with each other during pandemic to ptd times and then flash forward - enlisting together.
Even when Jimin was busy for his album, it was very apparent that jungkook missed him, inviting him multiple times too.
Even though people think they didn't meet up in 2023, it soon became obvious that they did, because they can't just 'not be close ' and suddenly enlist together.
Whatever they are to each other, I'm seeing a pattern of a (almost extreme) dependency. Which makes me think that we might be seeing this behaviour from them even in future, after MS.
Please don't get me wrong, I don't claim them to be dating each other. Because who really knows? But this absolute dependency they have on each other makes me think how would they navigate if they ever have an official public relationship with different partners.
Now hypothetically, can you imagine Jungkook in the same room ( let's say a couch) with a gf and Jimin? We know his whole attention and physical body language changes around Jimin. How would a gf feel with a boyfriend who's more attentive to his guy friend than to her?
( I'm assuming gf because it's hard to come out with a same gender partner in S Korea)
Hello lovely!
Thank you for the ask, I’m gonna answer it in two parts, one about their ‘codependency’ and two about a hypothetical girlfriend being added to their dynamic.😉
Jikook Close Enough Orr Too Close?
Yes they’re close, the closest, the I am you, you are me duo. It’s insane those that believe them to be their favourites still deny this, from early days until now. They work together and play together
I’m so grateful they have each other to push each other, like when they stay after to practice together or like when one give the other vocal help.
I’m also happy that they *like* each other, they like cooking together, watching movies together, going to concerts, ice skating, restaurants and escape rooms together.
Like the rest of us we saw times in chapter two when one really missed the other, when one was worried about the other over working themselves, when one wanted to eat chicken, go live or box together.
BUT they have also done well with all the constraints of idol life and being in THE biggest global group with their hectic and publicised life to have cultivated a life outside of the group and of each other (well not completely).
Jikook have their own interests, hobbies, homes, family and friends. We’ve been able to spot Jimin travel the world with friends, go to shows with friends, relax at home alone etc.
Jungkook, I find due to his introversion, has always been more of the homebody out of the two (I can always give example of his well documented introversion if asked 😉) however he’s actually come a long way in recent years. More than just staying in and gaming all of his free time away, in addition to with Jimin, he also has been spending more quality time with his friends, spending time on his hobbies, going on meat tours etc.
The two are able to not be around each other 24/7 and still have full lives, Jungkook is still deep down an introvert and if not out with a select few close friends would rather enjoy himself at home, one of the bonuses of that for us is that he can feel no issue with being on live whilst enjoying being with himself at home, over a decade of sharing his life on the camera with ARMY has allowed us that window.
Jikook like each other and like spending time with each other but they also show maturity in making sure they invest time into themselves, into their other friends, sometimes these friends even overlap, because who says they have to keep each other separate from other aspects of their lives?
They compliment each other and are doing a good job of it. If we do see them as together, they work together AND see each other and after all these years still like each other?! They’ve got a balance that seems to work for them. They’re able to still dedicate time to the other members, even when it seems like they’re constantly in a Jikook bubble.
Yes we may get more Jikook jikooking, but with the added public understanding that they went through 18 months of life changing, unforgettable, intense comrade bonding.
But I’m not worried about them after their service, the days of 'unhinged, bold and reckless' fetus jikook are mostly gone, they know when to push the envelope and when not to. They’re not new to this, they’re true to this 💪
Jimin & Jungkook plus a ‘She’
With this, I think of it as if either Jimin or Jungkook had a girlfriend, cos why just Jungkook with Jimin being the third wheel, hmmm👀? Jiminie has given us a lot of queer coding, he’s been literally painted the bisexual flag.
Bi-erasure is real y'all 😪
Jimin could also be the one in this hypothetical scenario, as much or maybe even more than Jungkook, when it comes to a girlfriend in the mix.
Before getting to the woman, It actually would say more to how f*ck*d up Jikook themselves would be as her boyfriend, getting involved with a woman and bringing them around the other to act like that around her. Those aren’t the type of men I could be fans of ☹️
It would actually say more about them as people to add an unsuspecting woman into the mix of a bond that allows for many questions as to the nature of it. Why would either one of them even do that to even have this scenario occur?? We know they aren’t heartless a**holes but even this fake scenario makes me upset for the third party 😭
On the hypothetical girlfriend side…to be honest it is possible with the dynamic that Jikook have, for a girlfriend to join them and them still have their bond continue with some adjustments.
It would have to be a special sort of woman, confident in herself, in her differences to either of them. She wouldn’t be a carbon copy of Jimin or Jungkook, she would have to be someone who has qualities not found in Jimin or Jungkook, but compliment them either way.
She would have to be someone that would also platonically fall in love with the best friend of her boyfriend. She would have to be someone firm to set boundaries with skinship etc but not controlling to allow their friendship to continue to thrive.
She would have to be a welcome addition to their friendship time, but also be confident enough to leave them to have their own time, someone the boyfriend would crave individual time with her also.
It’s more the type of character of the woman that would determine how she’d feel. If she was dating either, she would be confident enough to know that her man isn’t romantically involved with the other. She would be dating him and learning him and understanding his dynamics with his friends, family, co-workers etc.
If she was putting the time in when dating to learn her boyfriend m, it would work, if she was a self assured woman, it would work. If she believed her man not to be gay or not to be romantically interested in the other member then she’d last.
She wouldn’t even make it to the label stage to be calling each other boyfriend and girlfriend if she couldn’t handle Jimin/Jungkook in her boyfriend’s life. if she couldn’t handle Jikook jikooking, minus skinship, the relationship would be over the first time seeing Jikook together.
It’s possible but it’s a special type of woman. This is all hypothetical and dependent on Jikook only having been nothing more than best friends, the closet duo and platonic soulmates.
If we were trying to insert a girlfriend in the mix for any other scenario then…I dunno love 🥴
Thank you for your ask and thanks to any readers, likes and comments.
💜
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We exists in grey or multicolour ;)
I agree with @humanuser0613 and @parkparkjeon on their general message they convey on their recent posts below (and i borrowed even one of their sentence for the title, ups ;))
The way jikookers behave as if there is only one school of thought...😞
I'm sorry, but that's not the case.
The messages I got on twitter two days ago were 🤬 and I just said I wasn't going to go in and debunk anything because I wasn't sure about the vid (honestly so many things matches up for me).
But it doesn't really matter… because I never said Jikook wasn't real or that the girl on the vid was JK's girlfriend. I just said that no matter what happens I just cared that they were safe and happy. They were gonna have my full support no matter what!
And yet, many jikookers sent me pictures, diagrams, warned me that they blocked me… as if I was an infected in the community that needed to be formatted
No one should dictate the line of thinking.
I believe that jikook love each other and has been inseparable for many years. I believe that truly their connection, their bond is one in a million. Friends, siblings, lovers, partners… I think they have been through all these states and their chemistry, understanding and affection are unquestionable.
But I don't know what the state of their relationship is this year cause it's been about 10 months since I've seen them live for more than a few seconds and I don't have any information about their dynamic, beyond the fact that JK missed Jimin in the first quarter of the year, and now he's totally focused on his music career and shares part of his time with us.
I do not feel able to define or explain in detail how their relationship is or works this year. And I adapt to what I see at any given moment. People change. It's no longer valid to say "jikook glued" because in 2019 they were stuck together, when clearly they are not in 2023.
So, let everyone say what they want about them. No need to lecture or threaten in posts.
My love and support for them does not change. I have spent quite a lot of money on their albums and works, and I have devoted part of my time this year to vote, report many accounts and make long threads about how beautiful their relationship was.
Nobody should come to me with the fake Jikooker thing, when many of them were tired of criticising JK when he released Seven, or calling him a puppet of the company. These same people are now celebrating the fact that he is so bold and independent today to put those fans who criticise him in their place.
Support is shown day by day with actions, and not with screaming on twitter and trying to evangelize the community.
Borahae to all 💜
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I watched Like Crazy
*I’m talking about the movie here so this post contains spoilers of the movie. Do not read this post if you haven’t seen the movie but are planning on it*
Of course, my interest in this movie stemmed from Jimin said that he really likes this movie and that it helped inspire his main track off FACE that goes by the same title. So, I watched it. I’m not much of a movie person and romantic movies are very much an I have to be in the mood to watch it sort of thing. Like Crazy a melancholy movie about an initially passionate heterosexual relationship that becomes complicated over time.
I went into this wanting it to evoke some emotions that Jimin might have felt. I was never moved to tears, but it was a good, sad movie.
The beginning I couldn’t help but notice the parallels in Jikook’s relationship. The main couple Anna and Jacob were very playful in their flirting, and it was really cute. They were inseparable. They did activities together like riding go carts and there was a long scene of them playing on Santa Monica beach which was the same beach that Jikook went to at night during PTD LA era.
Anna the female lead is a foreign exchange student and has to go back to England once they graduate college. The couple plan to make it work, and the morning that she is supposed to leave she decides to stay thinking that it would be a big deal. There is a long montage scene of them staying cuddled up in bed together for days on end, which felt very Jikook coded.
Eventually she has to go back, and they promise to reunite. He gives her a silver bracelet that says “Patience” and she hands him a scrapbook type diary of their moments together.
Once she is home though, they both realize it’s difficult for them to stay in contact. They keep playing phone tag and are busy with work. Eventually, they move onto different relationships but keep trying to make it work but the spark isn’t there.
The movie has an extremely ambiguous ending that felt abrupt.
I am not going to speculate something super in depth about how this movie could tie into Jikook’s relationship. I don’t think they broke up and found different partners like the characters in the movie did, but the theme of the movie being about being forced to be separated from the one you love is for sure is something that relates to them. With MS ahead, they will be separated. When Jimin was busy with FACE promotions and even recording the album itself, they were probably separated more than usual too. And that could have been a hard period for them.
Don’t take this post as any type of insecurity projected onto their relationship. We saw 2 min of JK in Jimin’s live. They are fine 🤣 I was mostly curious to watch this movie and see if I could feel the same emotions that Jimin might have felt. It’s a good movie. I didn’t relate to it much personally, so I don’t have super strong feelings about it. But the movie seemed to have had a lasting impression on Jimin, one of our two hopeless romantics.
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Honestly jikook are so f*cking confusing.
Like the start is clear for me....
Jimin showed so much affection to jk, jk was shy, cold, etc and pushed him away, jimin stopped giving him affection, jk realized he liked jm, he began following jm around, jm ignored him a little around 2015 but then jikook became inseparable.
Everything that happened after that made it pretty clear that jikook are dating.
But it's getting harder and harder to keep that belief as chapter 2 started.
Like in front of the camera, it feels like they rarely interact, they rarely meet, they're not close anymore, but then they had a trip to NY, jk's bed live which had some high level of flirting.
It showed jikook's dynamic like it was before chapter 2.
I mean they don't completely let us belief that they are still together because they barely interact online and somtimes say things which slightly indicate that they have nothing going on.
But then at the same time, they don't let us completely believe that they broke up because there's no way two exes act like how they act with each other even after chapter 2.
I mean look at NY trip.
Look at jk's bed live.
Jk's other lives.
Jimin's comments on jk's live.
There's no way two exes behave like that.
And I'm pretty sure jimin won't be talking so fondly about jungkook if they broke up. He probably would ignore jk if that was the case.
So like it's so confusing. I mean I understand they're very private but it's such a on and off behavior that it gets so confusing if they're actually together or if we're Imagining things.
I don't understand what's the point of shipping. Like what exactly are we supporting if we're not seeing anything. What are we here for?
The only thing we can do is enjoy their music. Shipping seems pointless now. Because even if they are together then what's our purpose? We're literally getting to see nothing. I'm not saying that jikook owe us anything. They don't.
But I'm just slightly confused how people still have so much interest in shipping if we're getting zero content. It's not like we're jikook'srelatives. We're fans. We require content. Don't we?
I don't know. To me it's getting boring to ship. Because there's literally nothing to see anymore. Jikook are not sharing anything with us. Which honestly is fine. But I don't understand what are shippers even doing? What are we getting out of this? Because the only thing we used to get was happiness after seeing jikook together. But since we're not getting that anymore why are we still here?
I'm sorry. Obviously people can ship whoever. But idk guess I just wanted to share my thoughts about the whole shipping thing.
Hi anon,
I'm glad you are sharing...because I think there are other people who feel the same way.
Chapter 2 has been a time where it's hard to believe jikook is together. No matter what jikooker label you have. It's fair to question what the whole point of this is and to question where this is going.
I have the same thoughts about shipping or supporting or whatever people want to call it. With us or without us, jikook will either be a thing or not.
Perhaps a better term is just observers? Because that's what we end up doing.
Third wheelers?
Things have changed on screen. They have. Because life happened to jikook. Like real life stuff. And yes, they technically don't owe us anything but as observers we want something to see.
But off screen...
Jimin went to New York and that shows that there is much more that hasn't been visible and from there things have escalated and will continue escalating. In real life, jikook has always been. They have been behind the scenes for a bit now but they are still there.
Something changed (in regards to the stuff that jikook went through) and that's why we are able to see their interactions again. Decisions and pacts were made.
If jikook was broken up, we would see it. It's been visible in the past and it would be visible again if it was currently happening. Both Jk and Jimin behave a certain way when jikook is in a bad place. Like you said, Jimin would ignore Jk and only be civil with him. That's a huge sign.
What are people are getting out of this? For me, it's knowing that good things are coming for them. I look forward to whatever they want to share, whether it's their professional or personal lives. I'm still here because I know I haven't read things wrong.
If they share nothing, I will continue with my life normally and enjoy the music.
But let me tell you something...stuff is coming. And maybe that's one of the reasons I stay too.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Hope I was able to answer you somewhat.
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Why do you think we don't ever hear of sightings of Jikook out together "ALONE" anymore? Like lately when JK goes out, he is alone or with friends, but never JM & same with JM. There use to be sightings of them all the time. Ice Skating, Movies, Shopping, just standing randomly at a busstop. The last time we know of was White Day, but they still were not alone. I'm not trying to debunk Jikook & I'm not insecure. I guess puzzled is a better word, considering how inseparable they seem in Memories.
And Anon 2 from the opposite side of the spectrum here:
Thinking Jikook are going to be spotted out together publicly sope, Namjoon & Hobi, Hobi & Jimin + how they are with their other friends at other concerts is incredibly unrealistic. They’ve got a image to portray for one, that they aren’t THAT close and two they’re together all the time at “home” why would they go out to a concert together or football game or a museum date. They’re gonna choose less public occasions like the white day dinner with their shared friends that people only knew about because someone took a picture. They didn’t sign anything to make people aware. We wouldn’t of known that hopeminkook went out together with HER until Hobi shared it with us. We don’t KNOW.
I had like 8 anons over this topic asking or throwing fits over the same thing anon 1 is asking about. And I've seen this Same ask being tossed around to other jikook blogs as well. So I deleted most of them, blocked the gross ones and decided I would actually answer this question. And bare with me anon if you actually care to know what I think and aren't just here sowing discourse. Because it'll be a longer post. And some of it aligns with anon number 2. And almost all of it comes back to my favorite phrase to throw at my insecure/other shipper anons. Object permanence.
Again, bare with me. If I forget a "date" I'm working off memory here. So ya know, keep in mind that I, too, am only human.
I think a lot of people struggling with lack of content must mean lack of contact (for jikook). And that's simply not true. But people fall into the pitfalls, especially when they haven't been here since 2013, of seeing content all at once and then being greeted with no content. Or slowed down content, and then they panic. They used to be SPOTTED OUT ALL THE TIME they must just never see each other anymore. Well, let's ACTUALLY look at all those times, and all those dates, shall we?
2014, Jimin and Jungkook go out on a chicken dinner "date." They were never spotted by fans. The only reason we know they spent this time off work, off camera, hanging out, is because Jimin posted about it in his blog. Photo captioned: “for dinner, we ate some delicious chicken~~~ jungkookah, hyung likes chickennnn ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ give me one don’t shove it in my mouth you punk!!!!”
May 2016, again Jikook had a spicy chicken dinner "date" alone, and weren't spotted. The only reason we know about it is because Jimin again, shared it with us. If he didn't share, we would never know. The "before" video too. JK decided to stay up late and hang out/eat with Jimin even though he originally planned to sleep instead. Also in August 2016, fans spotted Jikook out walking in the streets together, JK walking with a bike. When they noticed they got spotted by fans the fan said Jimin "hailed a taxi and they ran away together"
In 2017, when they were given free time by the company, everyone went off to do their own thing and jikook went bowling together. Not spotted by fans, but it was shared in Burn the Stage Ep 5.
In October 2017, they were spotted in Toyko together several times. Which they then also posted about and then never shut up about lol
January 2018, jikook watching the first snow together. Alone. Again, we only know about it because they shared it with us. Not that they were spotted.
February 2018, Jikook went out to dinner and an escape room with Sungwoon, the day after valentines day. Jimin came home early from a Japan schedule right before this too. Left their autograph and was spotted by fans
Summer of 2018, Jikook were spotted seperated from the rest of the members and camera crews before they left Malta hitting up a few stores and going shopping together. They also took the boat back out to watch the red moon together after dropping all the rest of the members back off.
Also summer of 2018, Jungkook told us about how he hung out with Jimin over the break and did bowling and went out for Karaoke. They weren't spotted. We wouldn't otherwise know. And they've mentioned going to do Karaoke together multiple times as well as bowling together many times. And again, summer of 2018, they were spotted by a non army (other kpop stan) standing outside together hanging out at around 1 am.
October 2018, Jikook were spotted by an ARMY riding the bus and they were out alone shopping together.
November 2018, Jikook flew in with the rest of BTS from Japan and then immediately took off on their own and went to dinner as well as then went ice skating and were spotted out together as well as the restaurant sharing an autograph.
In 2019, while in Paris they went shopping together and were spotted by fans. While in London they went out to eat, to see the London Eye and London Bridge with Jimins friends. And in LA they were spotted seeing Avengers End Game together and afterwards went out to dinner together. JK later talked about it at a fansign and they posted a video in the car together coming home. They also stayed late at a concert for a bit when the members had all already left the staging area to watch the fireworks together. Not spotted by ARMY but shared by themselves. In 2019 as well. Jk confirmed that over the break the only members he saw at all were Jimin and Hobi. Not spotted once by fans, but they still spent time together even during all of Jimins traveling around the world.
In 2020, they were rumored to have been spotted at a convenience store together. As well as in September, Jimin confirming they spent the night together.
In 2021, they shared a vminkook trip to the beach, where the Above photo was shared. No one spotted them, but it still happened. As well as in 2021 they shared about how they were practically stuck like glue through the entire time they were in LA (Nov - Dec 2021). Including how they walked together everyday and worked out together everyday. JK Visited Jimins rooms and hung out there all day. And months later, a fan (who happened to be a tkkr since 2014) shared a video of jikook walking into her gym in LA at 3 am to workout alone together. Basically confirming a fan sighting and confirming everything they shared in that vlive as well too. As well as in 2021 (September) they were spotted getting pre travel covid tests done at the same clinic together.
In March 2022, they were spotted by fans out to eat during White Day with a friend, maybe more at a lowkey restaurant. JK also that year shared how when he got out of covid quarantine that he went to Jimins room and got a hug. As well as yoonminkook and staff all went out to eat after the concert in Vegas in 2022, where the waiter who served jikook kept talking about how excited he was to have served jikook, where they sat together at their own table during their closed down restaurant party with drinking and everyone singing lol
So. Out of 10 years of being together as a band. Jikook have been spotted out together by fans approximately 14 times. If we add a few of the others that I included here (which doesn't even scratch the surface of all the times they've shown us how they are always together) that brings us to 25 times they were together that we know of off camera. And again, there is TONS more as well as staff commenting about how jikook are inseparable and literally always together and comments from the two of them about how much time they spend together, etc. You had 3 of those times (2 being a spotted by fans and 1 being told by JK) happen in 2022. And it's technically not even September yet. When in other years, the most frequent year of fan sightings was 2018, in which there were 7 times. And 4 of those times were shared with us by jikook themselves not random spotting. And 4 sightings spread across an entire 12 months, is not THAT much if you actually think about it for the other years to be a drastic decrease like people are saying.
It seems like so much because it is. There is no other BTS duo that has been caught hanging out by fans nearly as much or as often. Nor have any duo told us about hanging out off work/off camera nearly as much or as often. They do, it happens, but not as frequently as our stuck like glue duo. So from 2013 to 2022, there were at least 14 fan sightings of jikook. BUT You recongize that spread over the years, that's a lot of fucking time in between sightings, yes? Good. Glad we are on the same page. I also hope you recongize that during all these years where we got anywhere from zero to 7 jikook sightings of "dates" out and about, they were also being spotted doing things individually as well. Like getting food, going shopping, going on bike rides, seeing concerts. As well as doing those things together with other friends/members and individually with other friends/members. None of that detracts from how often and how close they are. And how they are constantly together. Choosing to spend so much of their free time together. And everytime people lose their minds about it, they make a comment about being "stuck like glue" over that time period.
It's a pattern, and the Rollercoaster of Insecurity has to be as exhausting for everyone else as it is for me. Why be puzzled when it's clear how much time they spend together. Especially when you saw people claiming they grew distant in 2021 (just like they are doing now) and memories proved how they literally were always together and they didn't even know the meaning of the word distance. People need to relax and I'm tired of repeating myself. 😭😅
Anyway. I hope this helped at least a few people recognize that this is just a pattern repeating itself again. And that you get bogged down by content and then confused when content slows down. But Jimin and JK have lives outside of content, which includes their relationship together. And lack of content, does not mean lack of contact between them.
#jikook#kookmin#jikook off camera#jikook dates#jikook over the years#jikook off camera dates#jikook stuck like glue#lack of content does not mean lack of contact#insecure jikook shippers
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BigHit and BTS are not ypur typical K-Pop label/group and they never were. From the first day they debuted and their (or rather Bang PD’s) strategy was to showcase the members as their real selves (minus the assigned stage personas), as in they filmed a lot of logs on YouTube just talking to the fans about their real thoughts and such. Bang PD encouraged them to write their own feelings into their music, and their music has been defiant to the norm since day 1.
BTS have been shunned by the industry to the point they had to make their own reality shows to better express themselves without prejudice, while continuing to film every step of their journey and keep track of almost their every waking moment to show the fans what kind of people and artists they are.
BTS risked getting blacklisted by their government twice because of songs like Am I Wrong? and Spring Day, mind you these were released when BTS were still a 3-4 year old group that was barely starting to get recognized by the industry.
In Jikook's case, they have been close since day 1. They slept in Jimin's bed, they stayed behind to practice more then sleep in the lobby together as to not wake the members, they were 'all-nighter buddies', they kept getting closer each year to the point they grew inseparable and you'd see them always together in b-t-s content like in memories. They got paired together during shoots because of their insane chemistry. And it reached a point where in 2019 after the Rose Bowl ear incident, Tkkrs mass emailed the company and spammed Twitter with hashtags asking them to "stop the gay fan service" but BigHit didn't give a damn and continued showcasing them as a close duo because that's what the reality is.
Only in 2020, BTS worldwide popularity doubled because of Dynamite and a new wave of fans started getting to know BTS and with that Taekook grew even more popular individually and as a ship (as did every member and duo but Taekook grew bigger because they're the youngest, and have arguably more Euro-centric fitting visuals) and BigHit started caring more about the international audience as opposed to the Korean audience how it used to be (notice how K-armys have been complacent in streaming for the past 3-4 years because most of them are mad BTS are giving western ARMYs more content and performances and English songs). So BigHit started banking on Taekook and started pairing them in ads, shoots, highlighting them in choreographies, songs, and in memories. But Jikook remain undefeated quantity and quality wise, why? Because they simply spend more time together that can be kept in content. That is probably why you saw that Taekook ITS talk and why Taekook content stopped getting edited out as much after that. They're still a meh duo in terms of chemistry to be honest with you, and that's probably why they'll never be used as much as Jikook for fun content. Like imagine being one of the editors and you have to edit every DVD down to like 40 minutes or something and you have to choose between clips of Taekook just sitting there or Jikook being fun and playful? I think it's an obvious choice. But I can still see that they're making more effort into keeping as much as Taekook content in possible to appease to their audience. I don't envy yall honestly. And before you tell me that I ship Jikook based on company content that the company chooses to leave in, I don't. I'm not a Jikook shipper I just enjoy their bond and I can see their chemistry and from a business perspective I understand why BigHit chooses to leave in their moments (even the most controversial ones) because it's fun and entertaining and it causes discussions. And it doesn't really matter who thinks that their chemistry is legit and who thinks that they just play it up for cameras, Jikook have great, great chemistry and it far surpasses anything I've seen of Taekook. And I've seen a lot of them two in the past 3-4 years.
Hi anon!
Well I agree that BTS is different. They are honest and open as much as they can be, but that does not extend to their relationships.. at all. I think there’s a huge amount of space between being different and totally ignoring cultural and societal standards.
But you do see that what we see is a choice. And I agree, that Tae and Jk’s interactions are probably less entertaining to watch than that of Jkk. Jkk are loud and boisterous and full of energy. While Tae and Jk are often more relaxing and a bit more on the background. That is an actual choice the company made.. and one I think would have been made even without shipping and possible relationships. You are quite wrong about when they started to include Taekook footage again, since the amount of Taekook footage in their earlier years was evident, followed by a real decrease when things looked to be getting more serious, and starting up again when things settles down. Jk prefaced the the uptick in Tkk footage in ITS. That’s because it was indeed a decision made, and not because the suddenly talked things through. (don’t even get me started on your mention of their more Eurocentric features, because they are very clearly asian, and your reasoning here would actually fit my ideas more than yours. Because apparently the company does mingle in what they show.. it’s just not a case when it comes to their relationships?)
As I said.. the difference is whether you think Bh would show or hide an actual queer in band relationship. Look at another ask I received just now (hi other anon!)
I know what I find more likely.
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People are questioning jikook bond because now that bts are on hiatus, jikook stopped hanging out. And then we see jk hanging out with taeyhung only (sometimes with hobi). So it's normal that people think that it's true that jikook was only fanservice because if they have a close bond, why they only see each other during birthdays or when they have to film something for the group. At the same time, taekook are always together even when they don't have group activities. They spend a lot of time together, something that jikook doesn't do anymore.
Ooh, you’re my first anon! So exciting!
On the Tae and Jungkook chilling: I mean, good for Taehyung and Jungkook I guess? If they’re hanging out as much as you say (I’ve only seen maybe 2 instances in the last couple months, but I’m admittedly not as plugged into their doings as I have been in the past cause I’ve been busy). But yeah, I hope they’re having fun. I’ve personally never seen anything but platonic vibes between them, so them hanging out doesn’t feel like anything but friends hanging out to me. Go ahead and assume it’s more than that if you want, idc. We’ve also seen JK hanging with Jin, Jimin flying across the world to support Hobi, Hobi and Joon hanging out. So, idk why you’re fixating on JK and Tae hanging out as more meaningful than these other hangouts (actually I do, lmao, but we can pretend). And here’s the thing: you have no more proof that Jungkook and Taehyung are “always together” than you do that Jungkook and Jimin supposedly aren’t. You have proof that they are together sometimes. And that’s fine, like I said, I hope they’re having a great time. They’re probably super close. Doesn’t devalue or say anything about Jimin and Jungkook’s bond.
On the birthday thing, cause you had to caveat your whole “Jikook don’t hang out” with that, since that was a case of them clearly hanging out for a non-official reason which collapses your whole theory but I digress: JK told Jin that other than him, only Hobi and — with an adorable giggle, but that could have just been from Jin’s antics — Jimin came to see him for his bday. Why didn’t he say Tae? Guessing it’s cause Tae in fact did not go see him. Don’t give me a line about him hiding their relationship, enough of the other guys had come to see him that he could have mentioned it without it raising eyebrows if that were the case. We can reasonably assume he was telling the truth. In that case, isn’t it kind of weird that Tae didn’t go see him on his birthday, and Jimin did, if he and Tae are so inseparably close? And listen, I’m not trying to pit the guys against each other and compare their bonds, but you brought it up, so what gives?
Alright, onto the biggest part of your ask: On Jikook apparently not hanging out because we haven’t seen it: I don’t understand why you feel like the things we don’t see cancel out the things we do. This is preposterous logic, plain and simple. Let me give an example: let’s say you go to your friends’ wedding. It’s beautiful, you shed a tear. You see the marriage contract and the rings. You hear them pronounced. They’re married - you saw it with your own eyes. Now what you haven’t seen is them having sex - and they haven’t told you directly (at least, not in the last maybe three months) that they do, in fact, have sex. Is it then a logical conclusion that they DON’T have sex, since you haven’t seen it, and are therefore not sexually attracted to each other and the whole marriage that you witnessed was a sham? (Hint: No. That would be a stupid conclusion to come to. Hence, the things you don’t see don’t cancel out the things you do. Make sense?)
What we’ve seen and heard (or at least what I see, feel so free to disagree) from Jikook in recent months is the same affectionate, domestic, sweet couple-y, flirty vibes they’ve had for years. I have seen no reason in their recent on-screen interactions to doubt that they are as head over heels for each other as they’ve seemed for pretty much ever, and quite a few reasons to think they’re closer than ever. So yeah, the dates and hang outs and time spent together that I don’t see is never going to affect that. If they suddenly start appearing distant, unfriendly, or negatively awkward around each other, I might think differently. But that will be based on what I’ve seen. Get the difference?
This last part is not necessarily aimed at you, anon, but I’m just gonna say it for whoever needs to hear it:
toxic taekookers are gaslighting you. They’re telling you to disregard what you see with your own eyes, and believe in some made up narrative that falls apart under even the smallest amount of scrutiny. You don’t have to agree that Jimin and Jungkook are dating, but to deny that they are close is ridiculous, directly contradicts original content and their own words, and is just a weird thing to have the desire to prove. And there’s really only one reason people are so obsessed with claiming that Jimin and Jungkook, who are quite obviously one of the closest if not the closest duos in Bangtan, aren’t even remotely close. Wanna know what it is? ✨brainwashing ✨
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I just realized that jikook in Japan does not arouse strong emotions in me, 1-2 years ago I would have been excited about it, because it is a symbolic place where gcf in Tokyo was filmed. But now I approach everything with cold blood and wait for more information and moments to draw my own conclusions. A lot has happened this year and I've learned to take everything with a grain of salt.
I romanticize my own life and relationships a lot. I really do. I look at my friends and family like this *___* and I talk about them the same way. I keep letters from 15 years ago, I keep cinema tickets, I keep the piece of paper where my little sister wrote my name for the first time.
I used to be the same way about BTS, and jikook. Now I'm not anymore. I don't really have any reasons to romanticize jikook or Jimin's relationships with anyone else. I guess I had reasons to look at it in a lovelier lighter when I thought there was something different about them, but I don't see anything different now and I haven't seen it since for a couple of years. Like, okay. They're fun and have good chemistry together. I'm old enough and I've dated enough to know that you don't build a relationship with only fun and chemistry. It needs more, and I don't see that "more".
I even said months ago that if the only time we saw them together was on filmed, official content, then I'd side eye tf out of them. And I said it because I had a feeling that was how it was going to be. And that's how it is. I'm not comfortable with knowing only idol Jimin and idol Jungkook. It doesn't get more "idol" than this: filming a reality tv show. That's why it also doesn't feel as natural. This is them doing a job, being idols. I'm sooo sorry (not) that I don't have it in me to romanticize them filming a reality or whatever, when I'm fully aware this is literally the first and only thing I've known of them together in years.
The funny thing is, I don't romanticize any friendship in BTS. I think this year Jimin has been inseparable from Hoseok, he said it himself when he went to Fallon that Hoseok was the closest member to him. I'm not making threads and writing essays about how amazing jihope are together. But jikookers and taekookers want to literally crucify you if you don't say they're the most romantic perfect couple to exist. I'm sure not even BTS look at the in-group friendships like that.
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Kanmom, I haven't seen this moment talked about - correct me if I'm wrong - so I'm submitting it to you, for your objective opinion and to check my delulu-ness.
It's one of Jimin's welives on the go, in the car. The 16-minute one on or about March 28. It's still daytime and he's got his grey hood up and make-up still on (and looking gorgeous).
Around 10:18, he says that this is fun and now he gets why JK does welives like this. Then the driver and/or manager asks, is [the welive] over? JM says no, laughs heartily, says it's fun, and then seems to assure manager-nim, it's ok, it's ok.
This got my jikooker antennas tingling. Why would the mention of JK signal to his manager that the welive is over? Because he's not supposed to talk about JK unless specifically referencing a comment from JK himself or an ARMY comment about JK? Or because he's always talking about JK in his downtime?
Anyway, I dunno if I'm reaching but this moment was fascinating for me because we NEVER hear a manager in a live. Even when they came into JK's hotel room when he was getting stalker calls, they entered and took the phone out of the situation in silence. And, of course, there are those old, sus vlives where JM has said it's a manager moving, but not talking, in the background.
Even if this was not a thing, JM being so kind and reassuring to Mr. Manager who was probably going, oh shit, I'm so sorry! You weren't done?! was so cute to see. He is really the sweetest.
Yes @jiminsthighsfr, I did notice the whole manager/driver thing that went down. And no, I have no idea why he started talking.
Now, it's not like they arrived at their destination. We can still see the car bouncing around. So why did the manager or driver say that (not sure which it was)?
He says that and he giggles.
And continues:
And then again, looks at the person and giggles some more.
And then calms them:
Now, that could be him calming them because they spoke while he was still live, or that could be him calming them because of whatever the reason was for that person to ask if it was over, cough JK cough.
It's a little hard to think it didn't have something to do with JM mentioning JK seeing that's exactly when the manager/driver saw fit to ask the question...
Could the manager have thought it was over because JM mentioned his name or more so talked about JK's lives?
Went back to watch the whole thing. To see if this is the first time JM mentions JK's name out of context, meaning if this is the first time he says his name not reading a comment or reacting to one...
So up to that point JK hadn't commented yet, and although JM did mention JK it was always by reading a comment and answering it.
That statement about it being fun, that came out of no where.
Perhaps the person thought he was commenting about the live, or more like it being over, especially because he brings up JK independently.
If he wasn't fully paying attention he could have thought JM was done and talking to himself or to him kind of saying : "this was fun, now I see why JK does this".
I do have thoughts about certain guidelines they were given with regards to interactions and mentions. Let's not be naive here. For two members whom we all know were considerably the closest with each other in the group, inseparable would be the word to describe them, to go dead silent, not to be seen together, not to be paired together, not to be interacting with each other even when they are with others, like not at all, that's not a choice.
I keep repeating this time and time again. There is a reason JK did what he did with his IG account. Not everything is about them being a couple, obviously, but definitely some of it is.
Do we remember this happened in this live?
This one JM:
I didn't even remember that JM was asked this during the live, lol.
And the way JM had to think out his answer to the question if he saw JK's photos that came out... adding Tae into the mix, even if he wasn't asked about him. Man had to think strong and hard before coming up with handsome? Saying he saw the video. Handsome? Really JM? I can think of other words that were probably floating up there in his mind. Probably also the reason it took him so long to come up with handsome, lol.
Really enjoyed watching this one again. Thanks you for making me, lol.
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why don’t you talk about yoonmin? i believe they might’ve had something before jikook got serious and that’s why jk gets so jealous when jimin is too close to yoongi and why yoongi has such a big soft spot for jimin and compliments him in such detail. i know there’s nothing there anymore (at least ok jimin’s side) but i think their relationship is interesting
Anon tf you say? Yoonmin had something before Jikook got serious??
HELL TO THE MOTHERFUCKING NO!!!!
Let's look at some fax, shall we?
2013 they were already doing the hand thing where they wanna hold hands but can't so instead they rub their hands together in a subtle manner. Here is something recent ish if u wanna see what I mean.
2013 Jikook were already cuddling
We know from Jikook themselves that they used to sleep together. Sometimes even in the hallway because they were afraid to wake other members when they got up too early. We have a manager asking JK to start sleeping in his own damn bed. We have RM confirming he once found JK in Jimin's bed
and another time said JK only sleeps in the bed he loves. Which was Jimin's.
Jikook were inseparable from jump. Jimin did not have time or room to be infatuated with anybody else. Literally.
2014 Jimin was asked who he'd like to date and surprise! It wasn't Suga.
2014 Jimin was asked what his weakness was and again it wasn't Suga
When asked what present he wanted for his birthday he said JK
Already ending up next to eo during ot7 stuff even way back then
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This popular satellite/possessive JK moment already shows Jikook were already crushing on eo
The fact that JK was already attached to Jimin in 2013 goes to show that they were probably hanging out all the time. Meaning JK certainly did not give Suga a chance to even try anything even if he wanted to.
Here is the kicker anon, when asked to choose between Suga and JK, which one he would like to sleep with, guess who Jimin chose?
So I ask, when did Jimin have time to be with Suga when he had and has always had a head full of Jungkook?
Jimin did not have eyes for anyone else. No cap. Yes him and Suga were close, still are but never like that. Yes when Jimin got tired of JK not reciprocating his affection on camera, Suga was among the members he started hanging with the most but that's about it.
2013 JK was already being territorial i dont see how Jikook would have worked if Yoonmin had become a thing at any one point.
So no, anon. You're just writing fanfiction now. BTS did not have any in house dating. (Sans Jikook) There is only one couple in Bangtan and that is Jikook. And they didn't date other members before eo or during a break up or whatever other crap people wanna come up with. Suga wasn't in Jimin's radar anon. No one was. Not then. Not now. Just JK and JK only.
#ask shaz#bts ask#jikook#kookmin#minkook#jimin and jungkook#if jikook isn't real then neither am i#jikook is real#park jimin#jeon jungkook#jimin#jungkook#bts#young Jikook#jikook timeline
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UNHINGED AND SNOWBALLING
I’ve been in this fandom since early 2017 (5 ½ years). That’s way shorter than a lot of ARMYs but it’s also way longer as well. So I think I’ve consumed enough content in real time to have the opinion I’m about to share.
Taekookers are increasingly becoming louder and more unhinged by the passing day in this fandom.
And THAT is a truly frightening thing.
Let me explain…
At the beginning of my ARMYdom, I knew nothing of shippers and shipping except for what ships were in the fictional world. I never imagined anyone ever ‘shipped’ real people (for fun or otherwise).
So colour me confused when a Jikook video popped up on my YT page. Anyway, after trying to avoid anything and everything related to shipping where BTS members were concerned, I eventually watched a VLive where Jeon Jungkook made me finally question the nature of his relationship with Park Jimin. And I essentially went down that Jikook Rabbit/Chicky hole.
For a good length of time, I read/heard/saw nothing about Taekook as a romantic pair.
Namjin? Umm…yeah. Sope? Obviously. Taekook? Negative.
Hell, I had never even seen any content which remotely looked like Taekook were anything other than those BFF’s who are inseparable and are a collective menace to those around them.
Until I did. I can’t remember exactly but I’m guessing it might have been the G.C.F. in Osaka. Some ‘fans’ were suddenly loud about Tae and JK. But they were definitely in the minority.
That was in 2018.
And over the years, the Taekook loudness, from my experience, has gone through these phases:
Ø Hoping for content
Ø Celebrating content
Ø Overanalysing content (that really was mostly non-content)
Ø Subtly throwing barbs about Jimin
Ø Blatantly throwing barbs about Jimin
Ø Calling Jikook complete fan service
Ø Dubbing Bang PD the greatest fanfic writer
Ø BigHit is keeping Taekook apart and the boys are miserable.
Ø Jimin is a borderline molester who always makes Jungkook uncomfortable (save JK!)
Ø Taekook have had it and are now rebelling against the evil machine and giving hidden content in plain sight.
Ø Oh, but wait! Their relationship is only for them so they keep their moments private.
Ø Jimin the homewrecker and sl*t is keeping Taekook apart. He and Bang PD are forcing JK to do fan-service cuz it pays the bills.
Ø Completely, 100% making stuff up about dates with absolutely NO proof but being loud about it so everyone believes.
Ø Oh, someone showed Jikook some love so let’s harass them until they either go private, delete or deactivate.
Ø Jimin is the scum of the Earth – Taekook REAL – Jikook FANSERVICE
Ø I HATE JIMIN – TAEKOOK IS REAL – JIKOOK IS FANSERVICE
Ø JIMIN IS A ****** - SUPPORT TAEKOOK OR ELSE – FANNNSERRVICCEE (enter trucks/e-mails) – F*CK YOU, DELETE!!!
Needless to say, their presence on social media (and in real life, I will never forget that b!tch at the airport with that damn sign where the boys could see!) has only gotten louder and more disturbing as the years have progressed.
And I have seen it.
And this is worrying to me because if this behaviour continues to go unchecked by this fandom, I can only see it escalating.
And eventually meandering into actual dangerous territory – the frightening part.
Because with the way they’ve been moving lately, I am truly terrified that there is a very real possibility that these psychopaths could have intentions of physically harming Jimin and/or Jungkook. Because they see our mochi as an obstacle.
And if ONE was brave (and f#%%ing STUPID) enough to physically show up with a sign to the airport, what’s stopping some truly disturbed psycho from physically approaching Jimin in some form or fashion?
So here I am praying for the boys’ safety and hoping it never comes to this.
…But the thought is sobering and chilling.
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God I feel good today. I knew in my heart Jikook would be together for JKs bday based on their history. Having it confirmed is icing on the cake. I encourage everyone to not give the cult an ounce of your energy. Let them wallow in their lies/theories that just blew up in their faces. Let’s focus on Jikook & celebrate knowing they we’re together, since it’s been a while seeing/hearing anything from them. Just remember Jikook are always together, even if we don’t see it. They’re inseparable.
From Anon to everyone.
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