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laerwenmith · 1 day

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"..Mom?"

#epic the musical #the underworld saga #jay herrans #Odysseus #anticlea #i will fuckin weep #the odyssey #my art

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jarondont · 2 days

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so i noticed some cool things while listening to the underworld saga.

but before i begin.

*clears throat*

hey jay WHEN I CATCH YOU. WHEN I CATCH YOU JAY. /j

THIS FREAKING BROKE ME OMG. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS SO BAD but i'll do that tmrw since it's too late for me rn.

in the meantime please enjoy this list of cool noticings (BIG SPOILERS AHEAD)

#epic #epic the musical #epic: the musical #epic the underworld saga #epic: the underworld saga #jay herrans #jorge herrans #jorge rivera herrans #the odyssey #odysseus

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l1ve-l4ugh-lov3craft · 15 hours

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OW OW THIS LINE IN ‘MONSTER’ H U R T

Contrast this with “Please don’t make me do this” in The Horse And The Infant?????

oughhhhhhhhhh ow ow ow that’s a LOT of damage

#Call that character development #In THE WORST way #epic the musical #jorge rivera herrans #jay herrans #epic the underworld saga #the odyssey #odysseus

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yellowballoon64 · 1 month

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🥬CABBAGE🥬

#epic #epic the musical #epic the musical fanart #jay herrans #odysseus #the not canon cabbage saga/wha #why i made this #fanart #digital drawing #can i call this meme

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paloma-ascends-into-hellfire · 2 months

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you know what’s really sad about “remember them”? by the time odysseus gets back to ithaca all six hundred men will be dead. they’ll have been gone for five years. there’s no way odysseus will remember them all. polites, eurylochus, sure, but not all of them. they will die in vain.

#epic: the troy saga #epic the troy saga #epic the cyclops saga #epic: the cyclops saga #epic the ocean saga #epic: the ocean saga #epic the musical #epic: the musical #tagamemnon #odysseus #the odyssey #jay rivera herrans #jorge rivera herrans #jay rivera #jay herrans #epic the circe saga #epic: the circe saga

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littleeliza-lotte · 2 months

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ODYSSEUS TELLING CIRCE “I can’t” AnD PENELOPES MOTIF PLAYING

JAY YOU CANT DO THIS

“She’s my everything, my Penelope.”

PLEASE SIR

#ANBD #and on Valentine’s Day SIR #Circe saga #jay herrans #talya sindel #there are other ways #epic the musical #Odysseus #Circe #Penelope

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hecates-corner · 2 months

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When I first heard There Are Other Ways, I was a little disappointed by the fact that Circe didn’t successfully seduce Odysseus, considering the huge Greek Mythology nerd I am.

Bear with me.

Then, I played the saga, and that song, for my wonderful mother tonight. About halfway through, I gasped.

The story is accurate to the Homeric version: he confronts her (clandestinely at first), she fights back, he pulls the sword.

But she’s not afraid. Of course she isn’t.

Why would an immortal being, with the rage and power of commanding a million different beasts if her Plan A goes down, be afraid of a measly man with a flimsy toothpick to her throat, just because he ate a flower and said “Be afraid!”?

That’s right! She wouldn’t.

Because Jay didn’t submit to the blatant misogyny of the tale.

Read this article for incredible information, if you please. It changed the way I saw Circe’s story.

If Circe cowered, simply because a man held a sword to her throat, only then would she have seduced him (if we’re going ultra-canon with the storyline, which Jay isn’t), which would have, yet again, thrown off the balance of power.

Circe could give less of a shit about the sword, in the song. She thinks he’s pretty hot, and maybe she’s manipulating him into coming to bed with her so she can trick him, so she offers a tryst or two. Here, if you read the article, she is throwing off the nature of men and women by being the active sexual partner.

He refuses, too enamored with Penelope, and shuns his curiosity in her. You can hear how it pains him, it’s a struggle to say no. But he does. He’s strong, he’s no god, cheating on his wife for the sake of sex appeal. He’s just a man.

He begs. That’s the thing that got me. Not her, him.

“So I beg you, Circe, grant us mercy, and let us puppets leave~”

Then, Circe offers to help him — not because she’s restoring the nature of being submissive — but because she has empathy and compassion for the man. She helps him because he’s proved himself, to be weary, and faithful, and human. She knows the feeling of love.

So, yes. So many layers. Like an onion, worthy of making you cry.

1. Jay is spitting in the face of misogyny and gender roles, and having her help him because she empathizes. Because she’s in power.

2. It’s sort of a jab, if interpreted a certain way, at sexual assault. He says no, and he holds true to it. Even though everything is telling him to give in, to let it happen, he refuses, and remains as sure as he can be.

3. It shows how very human Odysseus is. Athena forgot it, and somehow held him to it. Even the men forget it. But he never does. There is only so much he can do.

This is my favorite saga so far.