thinking about how someone tried to insist to me that hellcheer was 'gross and pedophilic' because they had 'a huge age gap' and i thought it was the stupidest shit i'd ever heard so-
in true Extra Ass Bitch fashion i calculated roughly what the oldest/ youngest possible ages chrissy could be and the oldest/youngest possible ages eddie could be based on canon evidence (eddie's 2 failed years, chrissy's '86 necklace, etc.) and approximate school cut off dates
anyway, this is a rough approximation (not that it particularly matters because they're both still in the same age range/stage of life so a few years isn't rly much of an issue given their canon interactions) but if anyone was curious:
eddie should have been born in '65 or '66. backwards calculation places chrissy either late '67 or early '68. eddie failed his senior year twice and was supposed to have graduated in '84, he's on his third try. chrissy is head cheerleader and wears an '86 necklace, she's a senior in '86.
the youngest Chrissy could be is about [17yrs + 7 months] assuming a birthday around August of '68
the oldest Chrissy could be is about [18yrs + 6 months] assuming a birthday of around September of '67
the youngest Eddie could be is about [19yrs + 7 months] assuming a birthday around August of '66
the oldest Eddie could be is about [20yrs + 6 months] assuming a birthday in September of '65
even in the 'worst case scenario' where eddie is the oldest he could be and chrissy is the youngest she could be, eddie is 20 and chrissy almost 18
if you go with the opposite, with chrissy being as old as possible and eddie as young as possible, then eddie is almost 20 and chrissy is over 18
the other combinations average out to a 2 year age gap, which for the record, for high schoolers is still incredibly common. again, this is a stupid argument, but i can be spitefully pedantic sometimes and i enjoy having all the possible information i can before i talk shit
and i love to talk shit. so i went to go get the data myself
anyway grace van dien once said that she thinks chrissy is a pisces and i trust her so assuming that's true then chrissy was born sometime between mid february to mid march of '66, meaning chrissy would haven just turned 18 as s4 began, while eddie is still in the 19 to 20 range depending on when you place his birthday
but all of this seems ridiculous when you realize that based on what school year they're in during s4, chrissy was a sophomore the first time eddie was a senior. so like. everything else is just being pedantic for the sake of finding smth to be mad about
either way i rest my case this is a dumb argument to use against the ship, hellcheer haters get bent just say you don't ship it and go
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hi its time for my bad dndads takes again here on my silly little blog and todays feature is inspired by @babacontainsmultitudes‘s post about similar taylor and nick are and i was actually going to add this onto that but i didn’t want to take up their space so.
what i actually want to talk about is cassandra and glenn! and how their differences as single parents really shaped the key difference between taylor and nick which is!! taylors confidence.
one of the big similarities pointed out about nick and taylor is this propensity towards loneliness both of them have. both of them very much have their set circle of people and idolize their parents in a very similar way that leaves them seemingly a bit isolated from other people their age (and otherwise, with nick trying to get glenn to abandon the party early s1)
during the trials, nick finally kind of unravels about his relationship with glenn in reference to this though by discussing how a lot of his loneliness and connection with his dad festers in this place of grief over his mom. he had his mom until he was 7 and looks up to his dad in a way where he feels they aren’t able to communicate about her death without ruining the “vibes” in the connection they have and he doesn’t even see him for at least 2 months out of the year. nick isn’t even comfortable enough to tell his dad he prefers universal studios and minions until the trial when he’s directly asked whether glenn indulges in his interest because he’s mimicking his dad so hard to keep that connection between them strong.
cassandra has a lot of clearly intentional similarities to glenn that are very obvious: she’s a single mom, celebrity-adjacent and isn’t around very often, she gives her kids video games for detention because she’s a bit out of touch and she’s not one to care about rules and restrictions presumably.
but something that anthony and freddie have worked into her character that wasn’t built in with glenn is that she has taken a LOT of care into showing her interest in taylor’s needs.
the first thing we learn about her is that she quit (or at least put on hold) her daytime tv career in order to pursue voice acting because she thought it would be something her and taylor could bond over. she knows taylor well enough to give him video games he would enjoy during detention and to go through his bags for weapons she knows he has so he doesn’t get into further trouble. she trusts taylor enough to get an uber home from school but has enough foresight to tell him not to take the scooters because they’re dangerous even if they are the cooler option. she’s confident enough to answer taylor’s questions about nick not being around whenever he asks (which is implied to be at least more than once). they have a habit of giving kisses to each other over the phone when she’s not around which is precious but furthers the way she’s tried to continue to bond with taylor even when she couldn’t physically be around due to work or whatever.
and taylor mimics her love by doing things back for her. he gives her cakes and checks in with her when he can, not because he has to but because he wants to, versus nick who felt he had to learn to smoke weed and love disney and be cool in order to maintain that connection with glenn.
i think this is why taylor’s confidence and security makes so much sense. taylor is a lone wolf with only a close inner circle because he chooses to be. it’s why it’s so funny that he really just does not care about nick as his father at all! he has questions, of course, but most of those questions are based in his own curiosity and how they build out his story/background rather than his need to have a father. he’s confident enough in his choice of friends that he turns back for link, even after nick tells him his whole extended family (that he doesn’t know) is threatened if his friends choose to betray him like nick’s did to him. he’s happy to have his dad around but doesn’t feel the need to impress him or reduce himself to fit nick into his life because he’s fully secure with it just being him and his mom.
i think this also goes into how a lot of their actions are similar but are driven by worry or confidence. nick didn’t choose to leave taylor as a baby but felt like he had to in order to protect his entire family (a classic hero’s backstory). taylor's so confident in his actions he feels he can fight his way out of any situation he’s put into (getting kidnapped, like, three times, willingly pretending to throw himself out of a tree in order to use his dad for a plan to get to hell, ect.) while protecting his friends not because he feels like he needs to but because he just simply wants to. nick chooses to minimize his needs out of worry for glenn where taylor is confident enough to argue with his mom over bringing weapons to school or because she’s ruining his favorite anime by dubbing it but still takes the time to make sure she knows he cares about her and is proud of her.
anyway i dont know if this was anything and i kinda lost my thought halfway through this because i know i had more to say, so i might add onto this later or something but. considering we don’t really get a lot of her and im not sure how intentional it was, i think the way they’ve used cass to foil glenn to make the dynamic between nick and taylor that much more interesting is really fun and cool to see play out.
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What do you think about the closet incident? Have you already found out who did it? (I'm a bit confused how whoever did it could shove you two inside without you noticing what was going on.)
I barely have a vague recollection of what transpired during ‘the closet incident’.
As I had been sedated by the culprit I hadn't noticed the ambush, and was shoved into the closet. Otherwise I could have easily fought them off, of course. But they chose cowardice instead of a fair fight, so they just knocked me out, because they knew otherwise they had no chance against me.
And whoever did this, knew about my pharmacological tolerances, and used a much higher dosage of the sedative than for an ordinary human. Only that they miscalculated, gave me too much, and I was knocked out for most of the duration of the incident, and the remaining time very inebriated, making my memory corrupted. I have been hungover for most of the weekend now, and my head is still hurting, as I evidently have been hit on the head as well.
I don’t know what excuse John has that he couldn’t fight back with his military training, you have to ask him yourself. He probably has a better recollection of the event.
There must have been several people involved in this, because one person alone couldn’t have overpowered us both. Most likely strong male adults, because they had to carry me to get me into the closet, and shove John into it. They also had the knowledge about my tolerances and access to sedatives. My guess would be that it was Moriarty, for whatever twisted reason. Why should anyone shove two men into a closet? The reason eludes me. Maybe just to torture us. Or for his own sick amusement. Or it’s part of a bigger, evil scheme of his.
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