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devotedlystrangewizard · 1 year

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i have such strong memories related to black sails like. it was my mom's birthday. during a weekend. think 2018/2019. we went away for the weekend to this. place. idk what its called in english but yk rent a tiny house for like a few days. whatever. i can remember what it looked like. i sat on that couch watching black sails. my sister and i had to share a room and i managed to break the bed (not permanently) i had to sleep on & because even after fixing it i didnt trust it, i slept on the floor. it was on that floor that i watched s2 of black sails. it was on that floor that i saw that fucking scene that fundamentally changed me as a person. because. listen. black sails was one of the first shows id watched with a queer story. with not one but two major plot threads revolving around queer people's relationships. i remember sitting in the car in the dark as the rest of my family was ordering fries for us and i remember my mom going "hey look gay couple!" in a restaurant. it doesnt feel real. that entire weekend is a fever dream. i thought i was just watching a pirate show. the pirates were gay. the pirates were fucking gay bro. i cried over that show. i wept at the end of it. i had to play boardgames for my mom's birthday and pretend like i wasnt going insane because the pirates were gay and i was just. ough. i was 14 or 15 and i was barely out and i was new to being queer in any capacity and it was such an experience.

#i really think my extreme reactions as like. a 14ish year old to stuff like 'is hannibal in love with me' & the wedding crashing #in shadowhunters and the kiss in black sails.#i really think that shouldve clued me in on the fact that i was trans & gay. earlier.#which doesnt make sense since im also aromantic but eh. yk. seeing people like yourself on a screen for the first time #even before you know? wild. insane #current 13 year olds doing discourse on tik tok have never experienced the utter surprise that was black sails.#they have never experienced growing up to 12 unaware lesbians even EXISTED because queer people barely existed in media #i really feel like ive grown up alongside queer media.#just. i remember tlok. & shera. & adventure time. all kids shows!#& then ofmd? last year? i spent the entire time convinced id get queerbaited #i started watching it when episode 4 had just aired and i. i thought it was queerbait.#it wasnt until they actually kissed that i sat there like. huh. spn really did fuck with my head #DO YOU KNOW. HOW FUCKIGN INSANE IT WAS. TO SEE A NONBINARY PERSON #criticize monster/robot nonbinary characters all you like but when i first saw double trouble i was just.#getting to witness o14's development since season of dawn in real time was also amazing #idk.#i think writing valerian has made me really really emotional about gay middleaged men again #also its late. and i miss black sails. i should rewatch black sails

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tamlinrose · 9 months

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Good Omen 2 Spoilers

Needless to say I’m devastated, obviously. The season was amazing, the writing, the acting, everything, and I was SO sure it was going to end with a drunken breakfast at the Ritz like Crowley. I was SO SURE they were going to kiss and happy music would swell and it was going to be all fine and dandy.

And of course I’m heartbroken for how It turned out, of COURSE I’m devastated that Aziraphale fundamentally missed the point that Crowley doesn’t want to be an Angel again, he doesn’t want to be a demon, he wants to be AZIRAPHALE’S.

Of course I’m so fucking sad that Crowley finally was vulnerable, and it came at just the wrong moment, the wrong time, the wrong wording to convince Aziraphale heaven can’t be fixed, because the thing is, Aziraphale is still brainwashed by the idea of Good. He is SO used to heaven being unkind that the second they throw him a bone he jumps, thinks “this is a chance for things to be different!” And is completely blinded by his own need to feel like a part of something bigger that he can’t see the truth, that they are manipulative and always will be, that if he didn’t have respect before he certainly won’t now, and most importantly That CROWLEY has never treated him like that, not once.

On the other hand, for all the people who are devastated and saying that they won’t rewatch, that they’re burning the bridge of their interest in good omens, that this is queerbait, it’s NOT. That’s your prerogative to stop watching of course, but the point is this is an UNFINISHED TALE. 6 episodes couldn’t cover the story, the overarching story, and this season didn’t have what would have been essential to Crowley and Aziraphale truly ending up together.

Crowley said it himself, Aziraphale WASNT THERE when they told him to shut up and die. He doesn’t believe heaven is as bad as it is because he hasn’t witnessed the true coldness up there in so long, and he’s NORMALIZED to the neglect and abuse he faces up there in a way many abused people are. He thinks that one bone is enough, that he can fix them, and he always would have felt that, which is why He NEEDS a personal arc where he realizes this on his own and stands up for himself AGAINST HEAVEN. THIS is his opportunity to do that. THAT is why the writers made him go back, he needs to know for himself before he can accept it.

THATS why Neil Gaiman is saying on his blog that he needs a season 3 to complete the arc. The writing timing of this falling out is intentional to keep the show alive to get to that point. If this tragic moment was left for Season 3 Ep 1 and they dined at the ritz like normal for Season 2 finale, there wouldn’t be any development we need for Aziraphale, and more importantly, if would feel like there was no need for a season 3. This tension is the writing worlds way of PRESERVING this show, and it’s frustrating yes, but that’s how things get renewed, that’s how Aziraphale gets the arc he needs, that’s how we get happy endgame Aziracrow, that’s how you rev up anticipation for the Second Coming, THATS how you write a story.

Also, it’s not queerbait. It never has been. They’ve always been in love, not even TALKING about the kiss here but about their complete trust in each other, their inside jokes, the DANCE SCENE, Crowley comforting Aziraphale after he lied to heaven. The symbolism between them and Maggie and Nina. (Nina also being in an abusive relationship like Aziraphale with heaven and needing TIME TO PROCESS before getting with Maggie, who will wait for her is totally mirroring the arc Aziraphale needs to have btw. Abused people don’t often just fall into healthy new relationships while still being entangled in their old ones mentally). My point is that if your argument for hating the ending is this was pulling the rug out from under queer fan base, think about all the creators who shoe in a gay relationship, kiss at the last second on the shows last episode, think about all the shows where subtext had to be enough, or where showrunners weren’t brave or allowed enough to make a relationship canon until the last second. This is the MIDDLE of the show (if everything goes well with Amazon which is out of Neil’s control). This has been explicit from the creators mouth and frankly the show itself for ages, even without a kiss. This is not queerbait, and sometimes relationships need space to be able to come back together in a truly fulfilled way, even queer ones.

Anyway that’s my rant, I have more, per usual, but this post is already long

#good omens season 3 #good omens season 2 #good omens season 1 #good omens spoilers #aziracrow #aziraphale #crowley #neil gaiman

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thefinalvoid · 1 year

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Noticed you’ve got a snufkin pfp? Got any thoughts about moomin valley you wanna get out?

Snork is a mood oh my god hes so autistic and im like my man. Yes.

Little my is what i aspire to be tbh like i could never be her but honestly i wish i could. Biting you biting you biting you.

Snufkin i love this version of him. Hes so little. Like personality wise. He has his wisdom sure but like in the same way a kid with shitty parents does. Like you know a lot due to your circumstances but you are also young and have not seen much. Hes me and that is why he is my pfp. Man says "bye" by just leaving without warning and besties that is my toxic trait!!! Also I have the hot take that his need to not want to constrain something by loving it too much is actualllly about how he doesnt want to like. Force moomin to always wait for him. I think hes very afraid of trapping moomin rather than moomin trapping him. Whether this is about romantic or platonic feelings is irrelevant. I am this way about everyone.

I really want more snorkmaiden development all of her character arcs seem to be second to jer relationship with moomin. Which wpuld be fine if moomin wasnt the main character? Because she should basically then be the 2nd character with major plot stuff going on. Shes gotten more stuff as weve gone on (esp with snorks intro in s3) and i hope s4 really delves into her character because i like her character a lot!

Speaking of moomin and Snorkmaiden's relationship! It's very light on the themes like most of their early stuff is snorkmaiden wanting a stronk man and moomin being a soft boi which was okay thematically. Could be better but it wasnt the worst. But now its just "look at that relationship. Wow. Sure is a relationship!" Where. Where are the themes. Like you have an amazing set up theme with moomin living at the top of a tower and there was the one episode that shows snorkmaiden playing with a knight figurine or something and it would be awesome to have snorkmaiden be moomin's knight in shining armour you know role reversal on the manly knight saving the princess in the tower. But they havent really shown they were gonna go down that route since moomin came back from the island. And that would be fine, except. Well. Moomin does have a relationship with another character that has A Lot of themes! Including framing moomin as a princess-in-the-tower. Like im sorry but why are they giving snufkin and moomin so many romatic themes if theyre not even gonna follow through? Im not letting myself get my hopes up, we're being queerbaited my dudes that mountain ep was like. ???????? As someone who went to film school and LITERALLY STUDIES THEMES IN MOTION PICTURES LIKE FILM AND TV whaaat the fuck. Its queer baiting im sorry and it pisses me off so much. Theyre shorting snorkmaidens character to queerbait us with snufmin this isnt what anyone wanted me to say but its true and everyone needs to relunctantly accept it

#i want to be wrong #like either give moomin and snorkmaiden more romantic literary themes #or break them apart!#you dont even need to put moomin and snufkin together just. give snorkmaiden either a relation with a lot of strong themes or free her

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spookyjarchivist · 1 year

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im so jaded about media now, like the magnus archives has ruined me in that ive tasted what it feels like to be treated as a normal human being and not a prop for woke points or someone’s heavy handed bid for acceptance like we need to parade our similarities or differences around to be seen, and i just cant go back

why would i want rewatch good omens when they did everything BUT the one piece of rep that everyone was asking for and was dangled in front of them?

why would i rewatch supernatural knowing dean and castiel are obviously in love and it will just get smacked down in some of the most hilariously aggressive homophobia ever put to screen?

why should i watch merlin for the first time knowing it will just be queerbaiting me like sherlock and teen wolf did before?

why should i finish hannibal when the creator was too chickenshit to just say he was writing a gay romance and i know it will never be finished?

why should i start watching mcu movies again when time after time they have done nothing but mock me and give false promises only rip the rug out and straight up mutilate character development for the sake of not being any kind of queer?

even in explicitly queer media written by queer people over half the time it feels like some huge performance waving a giant flag that says “we’re here!” instead of geniune representation of our community

like, i take solace in old books when it was illegal to print queer rep because at least then i know they were trying so hard for it to be as obvious as possible without crossing a line for a REASON

i keep seeing all these new shows that seem so good but then people will talk about how the main couple is super forced and you can tell it’s because they dont want to acknowledge the chemistry of the main character with another of the same gender, and dont even think of the token trans person getting anything good for them because it’s not happening

and yes i KNOW there’s good stuff out there, like ive heard about how amazing heartstopper is, but honestly i cant take another coming out story, like yeah im glad it’s there for the people who need it, but what about the people like me who dont HAVE a traditional “coming out” story? once i figured it out i knew who i was and i wasn’t afraid of it and i wasnt scared of telling people but i wasn’t just coming out, it’s just always came up naturally and ive never shied away from it,, and i KNOW that’s weird and i know people get pissed when you dont have coming out trauma but why does every coming of age queer story always gotta be a coming out story? like yeah we need more of those but we should also have the other too

anyway, tldr is that im a very tired queer and half the reason i dont consume much new media or even stick with old media is 100% bc no one writes queer people as people

also listen to the magnus archives and be prepared to find queer people being queer without it feeling like an oscar bait disability movie like love simon or overtly homophobic like supernatural

#*noodlespeaks #im not tagging this with anything bc it’s just me venting and none of these fandoms deserve this in the tags #tbh all of this goes for autistic media too

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fthisshiiimout · 4 years

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Oh my God! This fandom is something else! Everyone's upset because Vinny and Rick are not writing for season 3! But when 2x06 aired many in this Fandom were FERAL in disgust for said episode. Why do we care again that they're leaving? This is Hollywood! I can almost guess 75% of the writers in Hollywood are Gay. So get better writers! They were and are not the be all and end all of Gay writers ln this show.

To be honest season 2 writing was just plain HORRIBLE for the most part! There was very little continuity between episodes, dropped storylines, really no overarching S2 storyline till the last 3 episodes, pacing of the episodes was downright confusing to the point where I was scratching my head trying to figure out where the scenes I was watching actually fit into the storyline.

And for the first time in my 41 years of watching television I actually had a showrunner tell me that the way I was interpreting what was shown to me on screen was not actually how it was " meant to be interpreted".. or some ridiculousness like that. Honestly I have never even really had to listen to or know who the Showrunners were on any show until I watched Roswell New Mexico. Like what's up with that? Or in reality who the writers were!

Carina is horrible as a writer and showrunner! She picks favorites to base the show around, and shoves her Latina lead into the background. She makes people of color the bad guys, all the time! ( Noah, Flint, Helena). She has two POC vying for the love and affection of the WHITE guy, who in reality has nothing to offer either of them, for the sake of creating a love triangle that nobody was interested in in the first place. Her lack of true understanding of social issues is appalling and falls seriously short of being taken seriously. Having a diverse cast isn't "progressive" if you treat them like crap and put them in horrible situations, or dismiss them all together. I always found it interesting how the supporting cast are all people of color and yet the three main "aliens" are white. There is never any consequences for the horrible things they do. This show has "white privilege" written all over it!

The queerbaiting in the show is off the chain! We were given an amazing and electric Queer couple with Michael and Alex. That lasted for 3 episodes in S1 and now 1 and 3/4 seasons later its just angst and hurt. Way to portray Queer adult relationships! Like seriously? Real gay relationships aren't happy and domestic? Also calling Michael and Alex "Cosmic"?? Sure wasnt feeling that in S2!! And being bisexual I really HATE how it is portrayed in the show!

And all this shit this show falls short in is the direct result of a Shitty showrunner and horrible writers! So Rick and Vinny " Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya".. and take Carina with you too!!

This show started out with a lot of potential! But now it's just exhausting and comical..but not in a good way..

The only reason I stay in this fandom is surely because of the amazing talent of fanfiction writers and the awesome GIF makers. I enjoy the meta's, even though most of the time end up being told they're wrong by the showrunner because what we're watching on screen isn't really intended to come off that way, But they are good..

#roswell new mexico #roswellnm #roswell cw #malex #liz ortecho #anti carina

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queerbloodyangel · 5 years

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Hi! I haven’t seen the magicians and probably won’t but I’m interested in the drama/what’s going on?

oof sorry this has taken me so long anon, i havent been home much today and am just now getting time to sit down! i hope you don’t mind that i’m writing out a long thing, because quite a few people have asked me about it and tbh i just want to get it all down :)

so, little bit of backstory here: quentin coldwater is the main character of the magicians. the first episode of the show has him being released from a mental facility after he had checked himself in because he was “getting bad again”. after the doctor expressed concern for his well-being and said she wasnt sure he should be checking himself out so soon. he told her the only way she could stop him was if he said he had any plans of hurting others or himself, which, he didnt.

throughout the course of the show, the writers did an amazing job of showing quentin actually dealing with and talking about his depression. we saw him at his highs, and we saw him at his lows, and for a lot of people who have never seen depression depicted in such a real and non-romanticized way onscreen, it was revolutionary. i mean, it still is, some of the discussions he had with his friends about it were so fucking real that they had me in tears because yeah thats it.

anyway, along with that, quentin also was proven to be sexually fluid first in season 1 by having a threesome with two of his best friends margo and eliot. he also dated a woman (alice) for a while, though that relationship went up in spectacular flames lmao

in season 3, quentin and eliot get stuck in an alternate timeline together for 50 years. during that time quentin met a woman and had a child with her, but shortly after she died, and quentin and eliot raised the kid together, and stayed together until eliot died. time got reversed then, but because Magic, they both remembered what happened shortly after, in a quiet scene with just the two of them, because the taste of ‘peaches and plums’ reminded them, because they had lived near a peach and plum orchard in the alternate timeline. nothing more was said about it after that, though quentin and eliot remained extremely affectionate with each other.

at the end of season 3, and going into season 4, eliot gets possessed by a monster thats more powerful than any of the gods on the show, and completely unkillable. the monster also has an incredibly childlike mentality, so at one point quentin asks it if eliot’s still alive, and the monster says no. since up until that point the monster has been truthful to a fault, quentin believes it.

episode 5 happens, and quentin and his ex, alice, are figuring out a way to kill the monster. during this period of time, quentin makes it very clear to alice that he has absolutely no desire to get back together with her, and with all of the shit going on with the monster/eliot, he doesnt even have the space to even think about them. meanwhile, eliots trapped inside his own mind, going through all of his worst memories trying to figure out a way to get out long enough to tell his friends that he is alive, and needs help. he goes through a ton of bad memories, including ones about his childhood growing up in a homophobic small town in indiana, ones involving betraying his friends, and basically anything else he can come up with.

he realizes eventually what his worst memory is, and we go back to the scene from season 3 where he and quentin remember the alternate timeline. quentin asks eliot if they can give them a shot, because ‘we work. 50 years, who gets proof of concept like that?’ and memory!eliot turns him down. the real eliot apologizes to memory!quentin, kisses him, and he’s able to take control of his body long enough to tell quentin (eliot: 50 years, who gets proof of concept like that?

quentin: what?

eliot: peaches and plums, motherfucker, i’m alive in here)

quentin then jumps in front of eliot so alice’s attempt to kill his body misses, and the monster comes back.

from that point on, quentin’s sole focus is getting eliot back. he sleeps once on screen, for a total of 15 minutes. he’s jumpy, on edge, exhausted, and clearly spiraling as it becomes more and more apparent there might not be a way for him to save eliot. up until episode 10, not a scene goes by without quentin reiterating that they have to save eliot, no matter what.

episodes 11 & 12 happen, and (if memory serves me correctly) quentin says eliots name once, maybe twice. he gets back with alice, and suddenly, is no longer spiraling (????) its as if eliot doesnt even exist.

episode 13 happens, they manage to get the monster out of eliot, and quentin doesn’t even spare a glance towards eliot, who’s lying on the ground bleeding out and need to be rushed to the hospital. quentin and alice have found a way to trap the monster in a rip in the universe, and take off to do that. things happen that make 0 sense, and winds up jumping into this rip in the universe along with the monster, and dies.

after his death, he winds up in the underworld, talking to someone, where he asks, “did i do that to save my friends, or did i finally find a way to kill myself?”

the person takes him back to earth, so quentin can watch his friends mourn him. instead of letting his friends actually talk about him, the writers had them sing a song as they threw their mementos of quentin into a fire, and that?? somehow shows quentin that his death was okay.

the writers (sera gamble and john mcnamara) are acting like they deserve an award or something because they killed off the ‘white male lead’, which, apparently is progressive or something. as if tv show writers haven’t been killing off mentally ill, queer characters for decades already.

the writers didn’t tell the rest of the cast what was happening, until two days before the finale aired. the actor who played quentin (jason ralph) was under a gag order for a year, and they filmed a dummy scene at the end that had the gang realizing there was a way for quentin to be saved.

the actor who played eliot (hale appleman), an openly queer man, spent the last several weeks reassuring fans over and over that quentin and eliot’s story wasn’t over, to have faith, only to find out that he’d unwillingly been a part in this whole fiasco.

they killed off the character that honestly, probably 90% of the fanbase saw themselves in, and had latched onto with their whole hearts because of that. for a lot of us, it felt like watching a bit of ourselves die, and along with it, a love story that deserved to be told, that a lot of us believed would be told. i, personally have watched so many shows where the writers absolutely refused to make the ‘popular gay ship’ canon, and have even been part of fanbases that have been mocked for it. but this just. this shit is on a different level and i dont know what to even call it except for some bizarre take on queerbaiting that’s somehow 10000000x worse than that word can even describe.

again, i’m sorry this is so godawful long but i’m truly devastated over losing quentin coldwater. queer people deserve better, mentally ill people deserve better, and god fucking damn it so do i.

#THIS IS SO LONG IM REALLY #ALSDJALSDJKF #GOD #the magicians #quentin coldwater #ask #anon

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langst-wins · 5 years

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the last thing i'm gonna say about voltron, unintentional queerbaiting, and major s8 plotholes, and then imma shut up and let y'all be free from my long bitch ass s8 posts so we can get back to regularly scheduled klance fanfics & fanarts

yes, they queerbaited us with shiro as rep. not in the sense that he wasn't queer but in the sense that they hyped us up for his relationship with adam, made us think we were gonna see an adashi reunion, and we ended up getting like 90 seconds top of LGBT content over the entire series.

no, I highly doubt they did it intentionally. yes, they did admit they fucked up and apologized several times. yes, I appreciate the apology and I understand that they're human beings and people make mistakes and overlook things sometimes. like they said, they never meant to make anyone feel baited. they really thought they were going to get a good response. lauren called voltron a "learning experience" in the open letter to the fandom after s7. I think she meant learning experience in general ofc but I think she also meant they've learned how to and how not to do LGBT rep in a show.

but I will absolutely be taking any promises of LGBT rep from lm and jds with a grain of salt. i will absolutely be watching their future works from afar and not getting myself too invested until the series ends and I can watch it as a whole while knowing what to expect.

I dont think they MEANT harm but y'all...they fucked up. they know it, and they apologized. it shows maturity that they apologized in that open letter after s7 and at the final nycc panel, and again, I appreciate that.

but I would rather they have not said anything about LGBT rep, ever, and just let gay shiro be a nice surprise. then, the minimal rep we received would have been wonderful and a nice warm surprise instead of a huge disappointment. it was only a disappointment because it didn't live up to the hype they made for it. and I know the hype was partially due to marketing they had no control over, but it was absolutely partially them, too.

they didn't promise LGBT content in LoK and canon korrassami ended up being a nice surprise even though it was minimal. that was how they SHOULD have done shiro's sexuality if they knew it was going to be a small thing. I would rather they have kept their lips zipped about LGBT, not announced gay shiro ahead of time, and just it be what it was when seasons 7 and 8 came out.

again, I dont think the bait was intentional, but it was bait all the same.

you are not crazy or too sensitive if your feelings are hurt/you feel baited by this show. you are not a shitty person if you just dont trust them right now. dont let people tell you otherwise. it's okay to take a step back from their work and wait to see how their next show plays out before you get involved.

i really do love voltron, even though s8 was confusing af, seasons 1-7 were LIT. I enjoy bits and pieces of s8 but mostly it was a let down. not only because of rep, just because a lot of things didn't make sense to me and a lot of the problem solving just felt way too convenient.

like I feel like every conflict in the plot was resolved way too easily and/or in ways that didnt make sense. and I feel like most of the characters' futures in the credits didnt really match up to those characters personalities. specifically lance, hunk, and keith.

lance staying on earth with his family, spreading allura's message to carry on her legacy? makes perfect sense, valid af. lance becoming a farmer? not so much. I feel like he would have been better suited as teaching classes as a pilot instructor at the garrison or smth similar. altean lance still gave me whiplash and left me confused af but he looks so damn 👌👌👀👀🙌🙌😭 with his cute ass altean marks that I'm just gonna let that one go for the sake of aesthetic.

hunk becoming a chef? not ooc necessarily but I feel like he would have been better suited as a diplomat. y'know. ambassador to earth sort of thing.

keith aiding in recovery efforts and being a humanitarian (...alien-itarian...? idk). okay let's be real we all knew this edgy boi has a soft ass heart. I think hes just mature enough now to let his walls come down and not be afraid of caring ig. which is sweet and nice and all. but I feel like he wouldnt...JUST be doing that. like he would still want the battle and the adrenaline and the badass mf fight sequences. that's kinda his Thing.

shiro marrying a rando? I would have preferred adam to not die and them end up getting back together once shiro returned to earth. i just feel like there was no reason to kill off adam? shiro has already suffered so much, what was the point? but i'm not gonna hate on curtis bc we dont know jackshit about him and for all we know he could be a bombass dude. shiro looked happy tho and it's better than him being forever alone so I can hesitantly accept that ig. but on one condition and one condition only: their ship name must be shirts. if their ship name is not shirts then I dont want it

allura's death was pointless. i havent seen anyone disagree with this one so far. her life was full of suffering and then she died. like can we all just agree she was done dirty and it was entirely unnecessary.

dont come @ me with "you just dont like s8 bc your ship wasnt canon"

that's not it at all.

they could have made this season so amazing and still not have made klance canon. they could have left me disappointed in no klance but still happy because the finale made my heart go dynamite BOOM. I could have ended the last episode with no canon klance and still been smiling because the plot was bitchin' and the characters were all alive and happy.

but they didnt, so I wasnt. it just...wasnt a good season. it had good aspects, yes, but as a whole? meh.

season 8 was poorly handled. it really was. it had so much potential to end with EVERY character having a positive ending and still have an actual satisfying conclusion to the war. I know they wanted to show how heavy and serious and heartbreaking the war actually was, but you can make an emotional, heavy finale without killing off a main character and leaving her main character love interest lonely and grieving. like im sorry killing allura and leaving lance sad and lonely was not necessary at all to the plot it just flat out wasnt. they did those characters dirty and they did allurance shippers even dirtier.

allurancers cheered seeing their ship canon then had it ripped out from under them and my heart honestly grieves worse for my allurance and allura stan fam than my klance fam. they did y'all so wrong and i'm sorry it had to go down like that.

sheith shippers got fucked over when all that development and relationship and growth culminated into basically nothing in the final season. like as a broganes stan even i was taken aback by the sudden radio silence between them so I cant imagine how let down actual sheith shippers feel.

us adashi shippers? obvious. adam's death was not necessary. and dont tell me it was to show the heaviness and realness of death in war because vld does NOT have a track record of dead characters staying dead. they could have at least gave us some mild development with shirts (lmfao im so sorry but shirts) and let us see more of curtis as a character. like...literally just two 60 second scenes would have been nice. they could have easily fit that in.

us klancers got fucked over by unnecessary parallels to canon ships. they could have made it a cute platonic friendship in s8 and let us enjoy it and proceed to enjoy fanon klance without all those blatant parallels to shay/hunk that just left us confused. and the parallels in earlier seasons. like why did you have to make so many parallels to romantic moments and romantic tropes if it was platonic. why did you have to go and do that. what was the point.

s8 could have ended in such a way that shippers of every ship in the fandom were satisfied with the finale because their faves were treated right and the plot was fire. it had so much potential in the first half and could have been so damn good.

it wasnt though. the entire thing was so confusing and nothing about it felt like vld. It feels like a spin off or a reboot. I dont like s8 as a whole and I doubt I ever will. it might grow on me in time but I'll never fully like it, y'know. everything about it felt so tilted and off and just wrong.

but it really just be like that sometimes ig.

#i wont be responding to comments on this #feel free to send an ask w your thoughts #but no promise i'll answer it #klance #voltron #sheith #allurance #adashi #vld

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missjackil · 5 years

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Get to Know Me

SPN Questions Thanks @aborddelimpala i figured it out 😜

1. When did you start watching Supernatural?

Feb 29th 2015. My friend had been bugging me for months, I was recluctant. She told me to just watch s1 and 2 and if I wasnt hooked by the end of s2 then we can pick something else... well... here I am!!

2. Who is your favorite in TFW?

Im a Samgirl but I love Dean too!

3. Who is your least favorite in TFW?

Cas, hes useless beyond the occasional pep talk anymore

5. Who is your favorite character (not including TFW)?

Rowena, she acts a;; badass but shes a softy

6. Who is your favorite woman in Supernatural?

Rowena... same as above

7. John or Mary?

John definitely! No he wont win Father of the Year, but he loved his boys enough to die for them. He didnt cjose to eliminate them from his life after they died for him to help a flock of strangers in another world.

8. What were your first opinions of Sam, Dean, Cas, and Jack?

Sam: Awww hes gonna be drop dead gorgeous when he grows up Dean: Cute little smart ass aint he? Cas: Angels have weird lips Jack: Well hes gonna be fun!

9. What’s your favorite season?

Season 12, maybe the sexiest of all seasons, and I liked the scaled back theme. More personal and the big bad was just humans. The boys looked amazing too!

10. What’s your least favorite season?

3 or 10. even though they both had some good episodes. I felt like 3 really really lacked an arc. Yes they were trying to keep Dean from Hell but they never got close. 10s MOC arc had potential they never saw through with. How did the fact that Cain killed his brother never come up in conversation?

11. Opinions on Destiel?

Its a fan fiction ship. Its never going to happen and generally I dont care if people ship it, its just when they get obnoxious about it that it pisses me off.

12. Do you believe Supernatural queerbaits?

Not even remotely. Queerbaiting would be if the show acted like they would develop a queer relationship and never do. The show never does such a thing, only some fans with a fetish do.

13. Seasons 1-7 or 8-14?

8-14, I like Sam and Dean more the older they get

14. Favorite villain (plot wise)?

The BMOL:

15. Do you think they should end the Lucifer plot line?

Not at all... the best series arc they have had is the Sam vs Lucifer story. They just need to get back to that and make Lucifer more impressive and not a spoiled 15 yr old

16. Who do you think has gone through more trauma (Sam, Dean, or Cas)?

Sam & Dean both. They’ve both been through Hell (figuratively & literally)

17. What’s your favorite Supernatural episode?

Who We Are and Swan Song... though Im adding Prophet and Loss to that list.

18. Do you like case episodes?

Moreso now than I used to. In the early seasons it got boring just chasing monsters, I liked the myth episodes to move the story along, but now the MOTWs are much better and I really apreciate just the bros together

19. Who do you relate most to in TFW?

I relate to both Sam and Dean for different aspects of my life.

20. Why do you like Supernatural?

I love Sam and Dean and their psychotic co dependency. Jared and Jensen are wonderful actors and I cant imagine anyone playing a better Sam and Dean

21. If you could bring back one character and kill off another who would they be?

Kill off Claire and bring back Mick Davies

Tag: whoever who wants to answer :)

@EVERYONE

#MY STUFF

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lilacblue-boy · 7 years

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The Final Problem

EDIT: I’m rewatching it atm and fuck this is too beautiful to be queerbaiting, loose ended bullshit.

And yes, the end could be canon Johnlock, but we do need it to be explicit to be accepted by the world.

In case anyone wants to know my opinion on this.

For everyone who says “Stop whining about your ship” and everyone who hates all of season 4:

I have never been a “oh god johnlock is so cute” shipper or anything like that. But I still found my way into TJLC by seeing the obvious here and even more so by seeing how amazing the people in this subcommunity of our lovely Sherlock family are.

I realised that I wasnt just seeing some subtext and having a gut feeling, Johnlock had lots and lots of Meta and subtext and it was really all there.

And now it turns out all that was queerbaiting? It’s devestating.

I myself am queer af and when I started watching this show I didnt know yet. However I have been in some shit places throughout seeing it for the first time and.. well, whatever yesterday was. It has helped me through a lot and I identify with Sherlock a lot, and I see parts of me, my relationships and my loved one’s all over, because this show shows so many of its heros and villains as human, broken, imperfect, but also brave, loving and kind. And that’s why I fell in love with it and this fucks me up so much.

Because seeing what this means - all the voices saying bad things about the show, the fandom, Johnlock were right - just doesnt make sense to me. I’m not in the place to loose this right now, but I cant just “look over it” and love it the same.

It just doesnt add up. They had reason, opportunity and nothing hindering them to make it canon. They didnt need a great big kiss or smt, a simple “I love you” wouldve been enough. Hell, did you see the ending? They had everything but the three words that wouldve made this explicit and canon. And it doesnt add up.

I absolutly loved this episode, so I did with TLD. TST was kind of fuzzy at bits and there are SO many things that dont add up still, but I did love this season. The writing wasnt awful, no, it was beautiful. “Your life is not your own, keep your hands off it.” “It is what it is” “The roads we walk have demons beneath and yours have been waiting for a very long time” all these are AMAZING.

So why dont the episodes add up? Why do all of these promises made not add up? “I just like elephants”? “I meant her playing so many characters”? What about “love conquers all”?

Either this is a GENIUS plan ending in an episode 4//series 4 special//episode 3 version 2

Or this is not only queerbaiting but also cruel and a badly writing storyline

I most sincerly hope it’s a genius plan. Because what do we say about coincidences?

TL;DR: Season 4 had too many great lines and plot aspects wasted on a story arch that doesnt add up and questions that go unanswered. Hopefully this is a genius plan as to another episode/special/second version to TFP or we are all fucked. Queerbaiting is not okay and pathetic, if that’s what this is the show that saved my soul and kept and keeps me going just broke my heart. Let’s see.

#the final problem #sherlock #spoilers #tfp spoilers

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