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kastimere · 6 months
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DRAW THE SHINTO!!
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SHINTO IN THE SHIPO BOX!!!
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mourningmaybells · 9 months
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i know you're not supposed to trust tv tropes outside of trivia about alternate video game endings you missed, but im still upset that these are entries under the Religious Horror page and FAITH isnt here
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intogenshin · 10 months
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destruction as a means for healing
there's very interesting parallels between watatsumi island and scaramouche.
there's so much i need to explain regarding lore and buddhism to understand how I'm almost giving up, but i really like the idea overall, so we persevere.
buddhism is divided into three branches. mahayana is the one that spread to japan and syncretized with shinto
inazuma's narratives take inspiration from japanese mahayana buddhism (obviously), especially for characters like ei and to a lesser degree kazuha
watatsumi was inspired on ryukyu kingdom (i wanna complain about this in detail but not today) who had their own religion, most closely related to shinto. they did receive foreign influence, but the pattern im tracing is only in terms of the themes, not implying buddhism is directly tied to its culture
the goal of buddhism is basically to meditate ur way out of the cycle of reincarnation. the world is illusory and ur trapped in it because u cling to ur suffering (im simplifying it), so ur supposed to follow the doctrines and practices in order to integrate them to ur life in a way that it becomes natural.
things like ei quelling her desires or being against visions or becoming disossiated from her sense of self are all nods to these buddhist principles. so is kazuha choosing to let go of his pain and burdens (material and emotional attachments) in order to live with inner peace.
on the other hand, we have watatsumi and scaramouche who do anything but. their lives are defined by the sins of their pasts and the resentment they carry with them.
watatsumi descend from enkanomiya, and i need to point out this pattern:
they were abandoned by a god (the primordial one)
then they were granted divine knowledge (from istaroth)
they used this knowledge to create technology (aberaku built the artificial sun, helios)
they turned this technology into a divine object of worship (the political class convinced their people helios was a real god and began the corrupt ruling of the sun children)
they suffered until another god helped them out of compassion (orobashi agreed to be their god and took them to the surface)
now read those again with scaramouche in mind.
it is curious then, that their paths would cross during the inazuma chapter via the distribution of delusions. (convenient sidenote, the concept of delusion is the source of evil in buddhism)
watatsumi feels a lot of resentment against narukami for killing their god. so much so, that they were willing to use delusions which drained their life force in order to defeat them, and even after the war is over there are some resistance soldiers who wont let go of their resentment.
the delusions here are a key element, since they were literally made with the remains of their god. and scaramouche was the one tasked with distributing the delusions. the allegory is so in ur face its kinda hysterical.
now heres where it gets fun: the remains of orobashi are the source of the problems scaramouche faced in the past. tatarasuna was built to smelt swords with jade steel, which is made from crystal marrow extracted from orobashi's skeleton. and the illness that takes the life of the little child later is caused by the tatarigami, the surviving resentment of orobashi.
(COME ON)
these two narratives are so so closely tied its impossible for it not to be intentional. and u might ask ok but whats the point then, and to that i can offer:
mahayana buddhism was made as an alternative to theravada buddhism, and then vajrayana buddhism was created from mahayana buddhism. the differences dont matter much for the context of this post, in simple words vajrayana focuses on tantric practices and rituals. in mahayana u cultivate ur path out of suffering with meditation, and in vajrayana u add tantras and rituals to that meditation.
its probably not as simple as this, but mahayana sort of centers the worship on compassionate bodhisattvas (deities who have delayed their enlightment to help humans), and even though they all have the same symbols, there might be a bit more emphasis on wrathful bodhisattvas in vajrayana buddhism. overall these deities are idealized symbols, ur not meant to be them, they are symbolizing a virtue (i assume??).
whats important is a branch of vajrayana did make it into japan, becoming shingon buddhism, which centered its worship around one key wrathful bodhisattva: acala, also known as fudou in japanese. this is basically a symbol of enlightment through destruction. he's a deity that destroys ur pain and suffering, ur obstacles for enlightment. obviously its symbolic, but the feeling and vibes it invokes are quite different from the compassionate symbols of mahayana.
there is one ritual for fudou where things are offered to fire, so its basically purification through burning, through destruction and renewal of the self.
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scara/wanderer's design is based off a shugendo monk, a super syncretic religion made of everything that reached japan. but, they have special worship for fudou and the fire ritual.
scara literally faces his suffering and sins (as in, the accumulation of karma in buddhist concepts) in the form of shouki no kami, and he fucking obliterates it just as he gains his vision. this is healing through destruction, at its least symbolic form, reaching enlightment not through meditation and not through "peaceful" methods of quelling emotions, but through goddamn rightful rage. (i am screaming this into the void it makes me nuts)
in a less literal (and exciting) way, kokomi also finds a way to redirect the resentment of the watatsumi soldiers into a path of self advancement. she doesnt punish them for their desire to take this resentment into action against the shogunate, instead she lets them form a special division where they will train not for revenge, but for the protection of their people. the rage is not quelled, the violence is not stopped, just redirected into actions for collective and personal well being. which is what ur supposed to do in buddhism, as far as i understood (the concept of chanda, and all that)
anyway, yeah, healing through violence. i love scaramouche
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royakahoshiart · 3 months
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okay fine. I need people to know this.
I feel like most tbhk fans are Christian from America and Europe. So they probably don't really think about the religion in tbhk but it actually has such a big role.
I'll get straight to the point, all of tbhk (or at least main charactes and the plot) is revolved around the worship of Kami ( 神 ) gods, spirits and supernaturals alike.
ThE most obvious ones are the seven mysteries themselves, yako in a kitsune (litterally fox) a fox spirit/yokai whom like to pull pranks of humans either by shaoeshifiting, seducing or even killing at points, this can be seen in yako's sort of cocky personality. Yako is more specifically an Inari statue of an Inari temple for the goddess of agriculture, they say it protects crops and foxes.
Tsuchigomori is a tsuchigomo (literally earth spider) it's a giant spider who can be at least as tall as 10 meters. In one story, minamoto no yorimitsu (or raiko) killed one and had found multiple skulls inside, obviusly implying that the creature eats humans.
Hakubo is an Oni, a general word for demonic creatures in Japanese, thought I can't pin point which exact one. Another story involving yorimitsu is the drunken demon, when hakubo was found by the exorcist he said to have given the biggest Oni poisoned sake, as the real story says that three old men gave yorimitsu and his men sake that revealed the oni's real appearance but didn't hurt humans because he prayed at 3 nearby shinto shrines, and later slashed his neck like in the original text.
Hanako is straightforward but it is different in almost all prefectures of japan.
The gist of it is that hanako was a little girl who died either by herself of by her classmates in the girls bathroom around 5-10 years old. She can grant your wish but is you make her angry she'll curse you with a painful and slow death that'll happen very soon. One prefecture even says that she died in the nuclear blast during the last years of ww2.
Im not sure where nº3, nº1 and nº4 come from.
Now Onto the more subtle details, you might ask "hold up Roy, but Japanese buddhisim is very in touch with supernaturals aswell, how do you know if it's japanese buddhisim or shinto?"
Well let's talk about the minamotos. As you might've read, yorimitsu killed many yokais, so he would be called an exorcist where now are kou and teru, the staff kou has is real and is in some temples, teru's bracelet wards off evil spirits in shinto (rather not talk about the Buddhist thoughts on it....) .well teru's blade is obviously not real as a sword like that would've been impractical.
The temple where Teru and Akane go during the severance is a shinto shrine, we can see this from the Torii gates and the architecture as well. The workers at the temple are also not bald therefore they aren't Buddhist monks. It was also very customary to serve tea to the visitors. On the front gate of the shrine there at this 'weird Rope' with papers attached on it, it's on most temples and its a direct reference to a story involving amaterasu , the sun goddess, wich i wont get into.
The train to the farshore is actually a story itself and the place being full of water isn't just an artistic choice but it rapresents the river to the farshore.
Haha wow this is all to conviniet, yeah I believe in shinto bye I'm writing this in the fucking school bathrooms. Need to start school soon bye.
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j0ht0-gh0sthunt3r · 1 month
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Since you seem to be fine with The Horrors now, make a Top 10 Ghosts/Monsters/Etc. that absolutely DO NOT scare you. The ones that are too cute or nice (or silly) to be scary.
wwwwwwhats up rotomblr welcome to j0ht0-gh0sthunt3r and today we’re counting down my top 10 horrors that DONT scare me
the lost silver soul/…/the nameless one/lost silver/whatever the fuck you wanna call him. He’s just a kid thats gone through alot. definately needs a hug, even if he cant hug back.
The Missing One. It still scares me but im getting over it.
Shinto. she’s too small to do any real damage, and the most she’d do to me is bite my ankles or something.
frosmothman. cmon, im a rotomblr user, OBVIOUSLY frosmothman was gonna be on this list, fucken love the guy.
Slenderman. I used to be scared of him when i was a baby conspiracy theorist but now i just think he’s neat :)
JEFF. i cant be scared of him if i have personal beef with him (he out-emo’d me at the bar and im super salty about it. like why the fuck would someone carve a joker smile into their face just for the aesthetic??? thats what effect makeup is for dumbass)
Ben Drowned. again, just a kid that’s been through alot. I think him and the nameless one would be best friends.
Hypno/Psych. Very good at uno when he’s not cheating.
Lord X. once again, very good at uno.
the fuckers in lavender tower. theyre only incomprehensable horrors if you dont have a silph scope or a decent phone camera, and even then theyre just pokemon that love playing tricks on people.
HONORABLE MENTION: my fucked up and evil charizard.
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apendice-chileno · 1 year
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i forget if i sent this earlier 💀 but im SOOOOOOOO unbelievably happy someone actually knows proper info about yokais and like shinto mythology!! i literally scremed when i saw yokai reigen, shit goes so fucking hard
Oh don't worry!! I am glad to have these kind of words actually! You see, I have this thing that I just need to get stuff accurately to real life when it comes to real life based stuff and even more when you get things like actual culture mixed in!
I have a lot of respect for history/culture so I got myself around learning about kitsunes and oh boy! The language barrier really kicking my ass bc there's actually less information out there than I expected! Which made me think I could get some things wrong but I tried my best with what I got ;w; So this comment really made me feel relieved and got me to doodle some info dump about Kitsune!Reigen for y'all.
Hope y'all enjoy ;3c
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askgrey · 1 year
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@im-real-shinto is straight and hates women.
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pens-swords-stuff · 1 year
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Hi, long time no talk!
I've been quite busy this semester, BUT things might be mentally calming down so im back to commit word crimes >:D
I'm not gonna do full NaNo, but I'm planning on getting back into writing Petal, Pedal and maybe write some fun stuff for GSR!
Hope the time alone treats you well, and if you have any pets, they don't find any ghosts!
Hey Morgane!
Totally read that as "commiting real world crimes" so this is probably another sign that I'm tired and should probably go to sleep soon 🤣
I am super happy that you're getting a bit of a mental break! Good luck on partial Nano, I'm very excited to see more of your posts.
I actually do not have any pets! Never have before. All of my ghost-finding has been on my own. In Japan, we have a concept called reikan that indicates the sensitivity that people have towards ghosts, spirits, and other things like that.
I actually have a decent reikan and have a couple of ghost experiences. My relative's reikan is off the charts and it's insane, she has so many stories.
I'm a pretty spiritual person due to my Shinto and Buddhist beliefs. I'm a firm believer in science but I also believe in the existence of kami, spirits and the existence of people who've passed on.
Hopefully if I do run into any ghosts, they'll be my family and ancestors here to keep me company!
Thanks so much for stopping by, I hope the rest of the semester treats you well!
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Academia Reading Log 03.2023
In the hopes that reading academia-related stuff will be more fun again if I treat it like a quirky, fun special interest and not, like, actual work?
Brumann, Christoph. 2012. Tradition, Democracy and the Townscape of Kyoto: Claiming a Right to the Past. New York: Routledge.
This took me forever to get through - I started it in the beginning of December and had to borrow it for about six times. Ultimately, my focus is gradually moving away from heritage, but I found it rewarding to read about the city I am living in nevertheless.
Robson, James. 2010. “Faith in Museums: On the Confluence of Museums and Religious Sites in Asia.” PMLA 125 (1): 121–28.
A good first glimpse into the topic, liked the emphasis on not orientalizing, but was a bit baffled by the reference to aesthetic philosophies by Hegel and Goethe - how is that relevant to new religions / museums in Asia? Wasn't clear to me, but made me mobilize my philosophy friends.
Introvigne, Massimo. 2016. “New Religious Movements and the Visual Arts.” Nova Religio: The Journal of Alternative and Emergent Religions 19 (4): 3–13.
Not the NRMs I am interested in at all, but main take away: depicting modernism as strictly anti- or areligious is grossly simplifying.
Clarke, David. 2011. “Contemporary Asian Art and the West.” In Globalization and Contemporary Art, edited by Jonathan Harris, 245–52. Malden, MA: Wiley-Blackwell.
The shortest of introductions :( Interesting: Modern / contemporary painters tend to be inspired by ancient / premodern Asian art, but don't take up interest in their Asian contemporaries; and: asymmetries of knowledge when it comes to knowing a canon of art.
Carter, Caleb. 2018. “Power Spots and the Charged Landscape of Shinto.” Japanese Journal of Religious Studies 45 (1): 145–74.
This was my jam. Mainly out of sheer curiosity, because I already saw quite a few power spot searchers at various shrines (from what I could tell).
Bader, Niels H. 2011. “Tourismus und Religion im Modernen Japan: Der Zen-Buddhistische Tempel Daiyūzan Saijōji als Reiseziel.” Transformierte Buddhismen 2 (2011): 55–78.
A shining example for the importance of localized expertise, but the writing and presentation did not pack much of a punch - why is this case study important or telling?
Berliner, David. 2018. “Can Anything Become Heritage?” In Sense and Essence: Heritage and the Cultural Production of the Real, edited by Birgit Maier and Mattijs van de Port, 299–305. New York, Oxford: Berghahn.
Begs the question, if things that become heritage possess some inherent qualities that set them apart from their more ordinary surroundings. Ultimately does not give any fruitful or interesting answers. :/
Up next:
make new reading list
make research question more tangible
distil read literature in big essay plan
begin presentation for end of May
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slowjamastan · 2 years
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i literally only use rm for one thing u alrydy know. go away
every heta fan has their own interpretation of what its about i think. its a lot of things to different people. i love reading long worldbuilding fics bcz despite all the silly details we have canonized, the basic rules of the world are non-existent and ive read so many 250k+ fics that cover similar topics or events but are so so so different cuz they decide a few facts at the beginning before they start even writing it and that changes the course of what the series Means. its a wildly different experience every time + it keeps things fresh
to me, ideally, theyre guardian spirit shinto-type deities of civilization and also just some guy :) they definitely each have weird superhuman powers (mostly unspecific but definitely present and up to interpretation) but mentally physically they're a random person no more prepared for their role than anyone else would be. its like that show kamichu (that i love so much) but on a larger scale and about ugly men (its funnier when they arent attractive) and some cute girls (ditto except all women r queens <- homo)
when an author goes out of her way to justify the nationoids' existence i writhe on the ground like a salted slug but in a good way. get philosophical with it invent multiple fictional religions about my anime blorbies i love u autistic girls i am alive for You
i enjoy any view of their lil world unless u do something really wrong like that one girl that had them be like 4th (5th???) dimensional beings with a shared headspace world parallel to real life ummm. that was too out there for me. didn't like it. but anything else is fine i think. im flexible
i just really like mundane divinity as a theme in fiction it drives me insane ! i love when gods and spirits are just there and life is normal about it!! immortality themes make me foam at the mouth!!! also i love human/divine romances that cant last long!!!!! FUCK!! this is literally why genshin got me so easily. btw genshin and hetalia exist within the same multiverse they're the exact same thing and the same concept. if you're delusional like me
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imustbenuts · 18 days
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Going to send a small group of Delicious in Fire Emblem asks following this. It's just the first. Since we're on a dragon kick: Lumera?
hi anon!!! challenge accepted, lets begin!! it looks like you've sent me a total of 3 Delicious in Fire Emblem targets so i'll round them up and give you a proper answer :3 here i go
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first of: Lumera!! whew okay.
gonna go on a shinto japanese myth tangent for a sec but. you know how her human form resembles a mermaid with her clothing and absolutely gorgeous color palette going on? its beautiful. shes beautiful!
mermaids are beautiful! and mermaids... exists in japanese folklore!
unfortunately, the ningyo mermaids of japanese folklore are uh. very creepy:
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the legends surrounding ningyos are kinda varied. the first ningyos were believed to be men and women both, but over time leaned heavily and almost exclusive being female. anyway they're said to be an ill omen, and their flesh upon being consumed grants longevity....
which means i gotta get to work getting real junji ito up in here LETS GO
SO since shes a fish mostly, im going to assume freshwater. first ill have her in her dragon form but descaled. this is some loch ness level size stuff, but her flesh % is probably kinda low on account of her offering her life force to alear enhancing their longevity.
so with that note i dont expect to find too much meat under those scales. but they are still very strong and firm, despite not being super flavorful on account of not being saltwater. so shes probly like one of those river Breams in my head.
so in light of this, ill opt for steaming. specifically, the chinese steam fish method to preserve that yummy freshwater taste!
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prep an aluminum foil, fill it with some green onions, ginger, garlic, soy sauce, vinegar, sesame oil and put the main dish in it. wrap it up, toss it in an oven!
once its out, serve it and share with others who everyone gets a longevity buff! when the fish starts to get dry just scoop the sauce over it. its very good.
wine or carbonated drinks recommended 👍
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judgementkazukun · 11 months
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AU Verses
Note that if you don't see a verse that works for your muse I'm always willing to come up with new ones while plotting! Feel free to shoot me a tumblr IM or discord message to discuss.
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Final Fantasy VII: In his late teens, Kiryu joined the Turks alongside his closest friend. He stayed in the group for a short while, but quickly became jaded by the fact that he was expected to put Shinra profit and trade secrets as higher importance than the importance of the people close to him. Following the death of his closest friend and partner within the Turks, a situation that may have been preventable if other Turks had shirked their allegiance to Shinra over each other, Kiryu decided to leave the organization behind him. Though he has never leaked any of Shinra’s secrets that he learned while on the job, and doesn’t plan to, he knows full well that SOLDIER or perhaps the Turks themselves may be ready to track him down at any moment. He has settled for a much more humble life, currently working as a freelance bodyguard and mercenary mostly based in the Wall Market area of Midgar's undercity. 
Genshin Impact: Kiryu possesses a Geo vision which he received at the same time as he received the first katana that was forged specifically for him, following extensive training under master swordsmen to become a samurai. He had planned to follow in his adoptive father’s footsteps as a well-respected samurai, however soon after he returned to his home village following his years-long training his adoptive father was murdered. After being framed for the murder, Kiryu was first imprisoned to be executed before managing to escape from the small cell he was held in. Thus began life as a fugitive and ronin. Kiryu wanders the islands of Inazuma as a ronin. Despite that he cannot return to the village where the murder took place due to his fugitive status his main goal is to learn the true culprit and avenge his father.
God of War: In this verse, Kiryu is a minor kami that can take the form of both a human and a red serpentine dragon. He is one of many kami associated with controlling the wind and rain. He is initially from the realm of the kami called shinkai, the Japanese Shinto realm that is hidden from but mirrors the humans’ realm on Earth. Though kami are similar to the gods of the Western cultures the word encompasses more than just gods, and there are estimated to be at least eight million kami in total (though the actual number is "infinite") with some being far more powerful and well-known than others. Following the violent death of a much more powerful kami, Kiryu becomes the prime suspect and is exiled from shinkai, and he ends up traveling west until he finds himself in the realms of the Nordic gods, settling in Midgard, where he runs an orphanage.
Persona 5: As an ex-yakuza member, Kiryu quickly became a knowledge broker to the Phantom Thieves. He can provide them with knowledge about targets in Mementos or point them to people who may have palaces, including high-ranking yakuza members or members of the law enforcement where he also has connections. Additionally, his access to a range of weapons that can be brought into the metaverse such as nunchucks, tonfa, katana, and spears make him a valuable ally. Due to his own real world experience, he can also help teach the teenagers how to properly use and store said weapons. Furthermore, as a proficient mixed martial artist (including skills in boxing, judo, wrestling, and karate) he can help train the kids on their basic attacks.
Superverse: Kazuma Kiryu, aka The Dragon, has powerful ties to criminal organizations due to being formerly with the yakuza. He gained notoriety for his superhuman strength and his mastery of a rare and mostly extinct form of martial arts. Despite being deeply entrenched in the underworld of Japan, he had also been known to work alongside law enforcement to try to avoid any business from those organizations interfering with or harming civilians, and would not hesitate to take down any yakuza who might harm those uninvolved. This earned him many enemies, most of whom lack the honor in which he takes pride. In order to keep his loved ones safe, he has left, and is living a nomadic lifestyle as something of a mercenary, frequently taking on odd jobs such as bodyguard work, bouncer work, or collecting on under-the-table loans. He does not reveal his identity easily, though the tattoo on his back might give him away if he’s not careful.
Tolkien 3rd Age Verse: Kazuma Kiryu is a Ranger of Ithilien, thus one of the last remaining members of the culture once known as the Dúnedain of Gondor. For the most part, he is a solitary warrior that protects the land of Ithilien from orcs and any assailants who may be under the influence of Sauron. Technically, he is under the Captain of the Rangers of Ithilien, but for the vast majority of time as the Rangers must protect vast swaths of land and communication is difficult, this is more in name than in any sort of practice that involves following specific orders. However, during the War of the Ring, alongside the other Rangers of Ithilien, he more formally takes orders from and serves under their captain at the time, Faramir. Following the War of the Ring, he chooses to live a highly nomadic and mostly solitary lifestyle, traveling outside the borders Gondor and exploring the vast lands of Middle Earth.
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trickstarbrave · 3 years
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big hot topic on tiktok that has been talked abt often that i wanna throw my two cents in abt the discussion but will do so here bc its going to be way easier than condensing it in 60 seconds and ppl will get even more mad abt it on there. under a cut so you can just not look if you don’t want to as it’s probably long and no one likes this discussion 
disclaimer: im not jewish. culturally or religiously at all. so i do not have the best of insight of jewish folklore and i will mainly be repeating what i have heard jewish ppl say on it but you listening to jewish ppl on it will invariably be way more helpful. ultimately i am not talking to make an argument for or against lilith worship bc i can’t make that call, mainly just that arguments for it i see tend to be deeply flawed. ive seen jewish people who say they don’t care if people worship her and ive seen jewish people who are very much against it and frankly no one needs my non jewish ass giving them permission on it, i just don’t like some of the harmful arguments and at times BLATANT anti-Semitism i see in the discussions
“lilith isn’t a closed practice!!! she cant be closed!!! she’s a being/deity we can all recognize!!!”
this i feel starts with a misunderstanding of what “closed practice” means. a closed practice is a very broad term to describe any practices, typically spiritually in nature that are not freely shared 100% openly, usually due to trying to preserve cultural or religious practices. you can learn about most of them--if you go to a primary source. many people of closed practices are open about talking about it and teaching it to people who are interested, and some cannot due to years of oppression and theft of those said practices. some require initiation, and a lot of them are passed down with heavy cultural ties. and most importantly “closed practice” is a relatively new understanding of cultural preservation after colonization. 
judaism isn’t a ‘fully closed’ religion, but it does have a set conversion order in place, and typically while converting you will learn under a rabbi or teacher. a lot of jewish mysticism, magic, and folklore are passed down culturally, so even converts may take a very long time to learn all the ins and outs of it. and a lot of times jewish practices, beliefs, texts, and folklore has been wholesale stolen by western new-age spiritualists, occultists throughout the ages, and demonized by people who seek to harm jewish people as a whole. 
the pure fact of the matter is that unless you are learning from jewish people theres going to be a lot of things about lilith you don’t know. your understanding outside of the cultural jewish understanding of her is very different, yet you are the one who also constantly equates them as the same being with the same stories, with some modifications. yet time and time again whenever a jewish person would express anxiety over it (as she can be viewed as a very HARMFUL spirit to jewish people and not a deity for them) you talk over them and call them sexist, and when they try to correct you over misunderstandings of her stories you tell them you know more than them. 
with closed practices what doesn’t matter is your bloodline or your skin, it is about the information you have access culturally, and that information may be kept from people like you so that the faith in question can be preserved because it has been threatened. and yes, jewish people have had their cultural, spiritual, and religious practices threatened. it isn’t about keeping you out because they don’t like you, its about the fact that you don’t know everything and the way you are going to learn it will be difficult and very different. ive seen white voodou workers who are actual recognized practioners (sorry for the lack of proper terminology on this i know they have proper words/titles but i dont know them), and they didn’t just look up whatever they could find online, they had to seek out a priest to learn from, and it took a lot of time and training. 
there is a way to approach closed religious/spiritual practices, and someone saying ‘this is closed’ is not them saying ‘go away you cant even look at or be interested in this thing it is not for and never will be for people like YOU’. and ultimately HOW you go about approaching it will be decided by someone in that culture, and not however you feel would be the best way to do it as an outsider.
“how could so many people, if they aren’t actually contacting the “real lilith” be wrong? if shes from a closed practice she couldn’t reach out to so many people right? so they aren’t doing anything disrespectful” 
spirits, deities, and other entities from closed practices do reach out to outsiders on occasion and the correct course for dealing with that is to immediately find a person of religious/spiritual authority and trying to work with that person to better understand why. again the point above: you do not have the cultural knowledge to work with them, you do not understand how to identify them, what practices best suit them, the multitudes of stories around them, and history of them working with humans. if you actually value them as an entity it is imperative you understand from a PRIMARY source all of this information, not just second and third hand accounts of outsiders. 
and also a lot of colonizers have claimed to be personally connected or contacted by entities from a closed practice and use that as an excuse to not only not learn, but speak as an authority figure about them. there are people who claim to work with shinto spirits with absolutely 0 actual knowledge on shintoism yet feel like they have an authority to speak on it. there are people who claim to have been contacted by voodou, hoodou, and vodun spirits/entities and know nothing about it yet speak as authority figures on it. i’ve seen someone do it for a polynesian god. they did not care about actual learning, they cared about their own beliefs, validating those said already existing beliefs, and getting validation online. am i saying everyone is doing this with lilith? no. but saying “people wouldnt just lie/be wrong right?” yeah. yeah it happens all the time. 
“they don’t even like her, they fear her, she’s a demon to them and is actually from babylonia, we are NOT worshipping the same version as her and they don’t even want anything to do with her so why does it matter” 
in terms of actual cultural study a lot of jewish and christian stories are born from the cultures their people have had contact with. historically yes, jewish people have been in babylonia, assyria, and that area, and have made cultural exchanges with those people. a lot of cultural sharing has occured throughout history, but the jewish tellings of the stories have particularly jewish cultural knowledge and heritage in them. also we frankly do not have a lot of concrete surviving stories of lili, lilu, and lilitu, so i know you are not basing the meat and bones of your practice on those unless you have access to that cultural knowledge that not even archaeologists and anthropologists even know exists. most of it is on middle ages mysticism that developed her further based on jewish folklore and religious stories. 
also just because a culture doesn’t worship and revere a spirit doesn’t mean it is yours for the adopting and taking. we see this with the cannibalistic spirit i will not name from algonquin tribes and shapeshifting spirits/witches i also will not name from navajo. these are not spirits you’re supposed to mention or talk about, and even more so because their culture has such intense, negative stories around them means you should probably give it a little more thought. 
the last point i am going to make is the general, overt anti-semitism i see. stop comparing judaism to christianity. stop saying they are evil and misrepresent her because judaism is inherently sexist. stop saying they are oppressing your culturally christian raised ass. stop saying jewish people have no culture of their own and its “all stolen from pagan traditions” (which are somehow all equally open for you to take from too i suppose, as though middle eastern practices are exactly the same cultural weight as all white european ones)
again im not for the forceful closing of practices and i cannot give you fucking permission as i sure as shit do not know but i don’t think any of you even understand what “closed practice” means and why jewish people might have even the slightest misgivings about you working with or worshipping her and it really shows. if you have been heavily studying the occult, jewish traditions, and are doing so respectfully then i sure as hell am not here to argue with you about it so don’t come at me for it. what i am saying is a lot of people who do not have that and are absolutely disrespectful towards judaism and jewish people as a whole really keep making an ass of themselves on witchtok and are absolutely insufferable towards any jewish person who voices their thoughts and feelings on it, and i have a problem with that. 
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BYE I WAS IMMERSED WITH GENSHIN’s STORY PLOT (AND THE FANARTS ON MY TL) WHICH WAS ALSO DROPPED EARLIER THIS MORNING AND FORGOT ABT JJK FOR A SPLIT SEVONDSJJSJEJ
but anyways ,, jjk 145// the more i write abt it, the more i’ll sound incoherent, this is ur last warning to ignore this 🧍‍♂️(1)
the one who is based on avalokitesvara (i’ll start calling it them as kannon from now) that i mentioned was actually brain (out of ppl) 😭😭
kenjaku (羂索) is shorten from "不空羂索観音 (fukukenjakukannon)" ,, they existed b4 the heian period... older then sukuna ?? suggested that brain is at least 1k years old... hsjsjjsjs
fukukenjakukannon, a manifestation of the buddhist god of mercy and compassion,, perhaps of some interest is that the fukukenjaku shares some kanji with gojou's infinite void followed by kanjis for trap & rope, with kannon directly referring to an all-knowing/overseeing divine existence. it rly does seem that kenjaku, tengen, and gojou's fates have all been strongly interwined throughout history,, kannon has been perceived as both male and female depending on the portrayal and the region, not unlike jjk's kenjaku switching bodies and genders over the course of time (kamo vs kaori vs getou)
some associations with kannon may be relevant to jjk. namely, as yuki mentions, salvation ,, kannon is a deity to serve his subjects, and resolve their suffering by eliminating its source,,, in which case, i think kenjaku's goal may possibly not be too far off from geto’s ,,,,, he may think that he is saving a group that is enduring greater suffering than any other. whether that is shamans, cursed spirits, or sth else entirely is up for debate. given his persistence over the millenia, and the likelihood of spreading suffering worldwide through a universal tengen merger, it's more than likely that he has a very personal motive. note that under his plan it is specifically the evil of a human that would spread and destroy all of humankind connected through tengen
this is an interesting contrast to sukuna, who is much more whimsical and far less calculated. i think the clash between these 2 in the past will have strong relevance for the future,,, on the other hand, since kannon has historically manifested in response to the suffering of various beings, it may be that the feelings of cursed spirits as a whole have led to kenjaku's existence. he could very well be a curse born from curses, instead of from humans.
okay now what i'm really excited abt: the relationship between kenjaku and the 6 eyes. 1 of the functions of kannon is to protect the 6 realms of rebirth/the 6 paths. u may already be familiar with this buddhist concept as it has been referenced in a variety of animanga (notably it is a major plot point of naruto, it's mukuro's ability in KHR, etc.). there's strong reason to believe this concept also has connections to the gojou 6 eyes ability. i think if we get to learn more abt the 6 eyes, i may be able to speak more on this point.
(as a side note here, i’ll mention that there’s an association between kannon and the protection of aborted children, perhaps relating to og kamo and the death paintings)
at the very least, we know that kenjaku and the 6 eyes are in opposition, and i'm speculating that the gojou bloodline is the true manifestation of a protective deity, at least for the humans, and kenjaku's goals are antithetical to that,,, perhaps, as yuki kind of suggested, taking the name kenjaku is a joke of sorts. if sukuna is malevolence incarnate, kenjaku is mercilesness,,
i think some of the core concepts being explored by the tengen storyline are that of form and existence. gojou satoru, tengen, kenjaku, and eventually the star plasma vessels are existences that transcend the norm,,, toji on the other hand, is the only example of the opposite. an existence that shouldn't have ever existed, in a sense. kenjaku seemed to have used that to his advantage in his manipulation of the events in hidden inventory,,, but it also leads me to believe that only a similar anomaly could undo the new destiny he's setting up for himself.
geto was the perfect piece to set kenjaku up for success in conducting a merger and putting this culling game into motion. geto's path has led to this outcome,,, in which case, an apt parallel as we have known all along is that gojou's path should lead to the counter-outcome: megumi, yuuta, and especially yuuji— these 3 will be the key to unravelling kenjaku's plan.
also tengen said that kenjaku’s objective is to send all the ppl in jpn to higan or turning all non shamans into one but he doesnt have enough cursed energy to do that,,, i did say that yuuji’s birthday took place in the 4th solar term where a part of a week long celebration haru no higan (higan 彼岸→other shore, buddhist pārāmitā), when ppl would honour the dead and sweep ancestral tombs took place,,,
so theres this buddhist mantra, called the “heart sutra” and the last verse of the sutra is,,
there are many sutras in buddhism, but the most well-known among them is probably the Heart Sutra,, altho it depends on the sect (of buddhism), the heart sutra is often read at funerals and memorial services, so even if,, and for some reason the sutra is often associated to kannon even in the utube thumbnail 👁👁 if u search up prajnaparamita sutra,,
heart sutra has the meaning of "an important teaching to reach the state of enlightenment by the power to see through the truth and essence." which is based on the idea of ​​"void" as this important teaching,, the sutra tells us what we shld do to be free from the suffering of this world and live in peace,, in the heart sutra, the idea of ​​"void" is especially important.
buddhism can be broadly divided into theravada and mahayana buddhism,,,,
theravada is a teaching that only some ppl (those who practice buddhism with strict lifestyle like the monks) reach the state of enlightenment, while mahayana is a teaching that all ppl (some who practice Buddhism) can reach enlightment even if u dont practice anything related to the religion,,, the idea of ​​the void has the idea of ​​not being caught up in individual things and not being obsessed with it, and the idea of ​​heart sutra belongs to the category of mahayana buddhism
"void" does not mean "empty" but "no substance (no fixed shape)". the sutra also states that "everything keeps changing" and "although it keeps changing, the essence (core) of things remains the same."
for eg, the idea is, "i am me, no matter how old i am,, my appearance and various abilities deteriorate, how I am evaluated by others, whether i feel good or bad."
in other words,,, it’s a teaching to be aware of the essence without being caught up in the phenomenon of change.
"void" means "no substance (no fixed shape)", which means that u don't have to be obsessed with things or get caught up in one value.
eg, the reason why diamonds are beautiful is that diamonds arent beautiful from the beginning, but that humans decide that they’re beautiful,,, and that each person has a fixed evaluation of the movement of their hearts that they feel is beautiful. but thats not always the case right?
the last verse goes like this :
“Therefore, Prajna Paramita is known as the most divine mantra,
the great enlightening mantra,
the utmost mantra,
the incomparable mantra,
destroyer of all suffering!
Since what is true is not in vain, listen to the mantra of the Prajna Paramita– it goes like this:
GATE GATE PARA GATE PARASAM GATE BODHI SVAHA!”
the translation of the last line is: “going, going, going on beyond, always going on beyond, always becoming buddha.”
quoted from a web here : “it suggests movement toward awakening. It expresses the enlightenment of a buddha as an unfolding process, rather than a steady state. It puts us in the hopeful position of one who may not have arrived, but who may be on the way. The destination may not be an end, but the journey itself.
As appealing as this translation is, it is by no means the only one. When you do an Internet search for the terms “Heart Sutra” or “Prajna Paramita” you get numerous references. At these various pages you will find several different translations of the mantra. These include:
* Gone, gone, gone beyond, gone altogether beyond. Oh what an awakening! All hail!
* Gone, gone, gone beyond altogether beyond, Awakening, fulfilled!
* Gone, gone, gone to the Other Shore, attained the Other Shore having never left.
* Gone, gone, totally gone, totally completely gone, enlightened, so be it.
* “Oh, you have done! You have done! You have completely crossed the margin. This is Enlightenment! Congratulations!” “
the irony though of toji dying thinking that he should've stuck his principles but actually having ridiculous impact on the world,, this also puts a new spin on the "look upon the flesh of one who is free" (afaik it was left untranslated on his cover page when he invade dagon’s domain) and the implication is imo,,, the more cursed energy, the more restrictions and so in a way humanity goes into a devolution the more cursed energy there is because they will be bound even more tightly to the cycle than before,, which is the irony of the kenjaku & bodhisattva linkage
toji had a heavenly restriction and has zero cursed energy, which is an anomaly that is his own, which makes me wonder what he would've been like if he had an expressed technique,,, but it's the zero cursed energy part, that uniqueness, that makes him powerful in canon
im rly curious how having cursed power automatically seems to lock u into a binding,,, which is seemingly fate. the shaman world rly operates entirely on rules,, where this is because of tengen's barriers or the origin of techniques being more commonplace im not sure
i used to think CTs came abt when individual sorcerers made pacts with supernatural beings etc but now im not sure,, despite leaning hard on shinto and buddhist frameworks there isnt much overt indication over what is and is not a real power in canon,,, like we have mahoraga but are bodhisattvas assumed to be real and exist? or as figures of belief, are they and other figures of shinto mythology, all just cursed spirits in the end?
but that tengen is linked with the proliferation of 6 eyes and star plasma vessel, makes me start wondering how and why tengen started this whole barrier thing,, like yes jpn has a ton of cursed spirits but was it before or after the barrier i can't remember now
maybe Kenjaku was messing around too much back then,, i like how sukuna also maybe had very lil to do with this and is possibly going to interfere as a wild card once more. is the idea to use him as a hail mary so u convey more ppl to the other side all at once? unless kenjaku thinks sukuna is the person who got closest to the next evolution of humankind and is actually a fan 🥴
but yeah if sukuna and megumi can remake the world together can they just hit the reset button so tengen isn't somehow this massive jungian collective unconscious? is sukuna going to accidentally save the world lol,,, i didn't care for fate themes before since it felt like akutami hadn't wholly committed to it as a theme,,, but fate and collective responsibility/influence on the individual just became a much bigger theme
also the mind/body/soul thing with tengen,,, when is that idea coming back
so tengen and sukuna are so far the only ppl who have said to have evolved into curses, whereas kenjaku still seems to be a shaman, as well as angel. what catalyzes that??
also how tf are the cursed weapons made i have questions,, just putting it out here but i actually thought that if toji, presumably, didnt rebel and defected from the clan,,, what are the chances of zenin thinking of turning him into a cursed weapon lol
,,, does being a cursed spirit mean u are bound even more tightly to fate? or do u escape because u are no longer a human bound by ur technique and u are instead just energy that keeps cycling over and over.....cursed energy rly just karma with strength mechanics???
why did gojou get rid of the black rope only for yuuta go to find more??? seems contradictory,, like...did he exorcise sth in that couple years gap?? or were there other reasons? or is HE the one scared since he also hid the inverted spear of heaven,,, makes me wonder how common knowledge all these mechanics actually are
trying to wrap my head around potential megumi learned helplessness or not being able to work through his own problems, or if it's this weird backward wishing that he didn't HAVE to deal with problems if he didn't HAVE to do these things and there were simple solutions,,, like i don't think he's exactly lazy bc he seems to do a lot of work behind the scenes, but there's a certain stasis to him, a wishing not to know. i wonder if he was ever given the "u are a child and I'm the adult" speech nanami gave yuuji
nanami, qifrey and maybe reigen are the adult/ mentor figures i wish was/ is in my life orz
i think it's kind of funny how 145 is like suddenly christianity! this manga is just abt the many ways people seek freedom and want to be delivered,,,
but im not going to talk abt it 😔 — i only have lil to no knowledge abt it other than the lil trivias my friends dropped time to time whenever we’re having a discourse abt religion suddenly lmao and im not a big fan of talking abt things idk abt bc i’ll just look stupid otherwise LMAO
its interesting to note that christian have this uh for a lack of better way to describe it, higher power which can grant u eternal salvation or damnation while buddhism is just fending for urself in pursuit of enlightment ,,, while buddhism also have beings like devas/ deities it just means that 1) if ur born as one, u must have done a good deed sometime in one of ur previous lives,, 2) u just have a ridiculous long life span but yes u’ll eventually die again and rebirth as sth depending on ur actions,,, that goes for living in gods, demi-gods, humans, animals, hungry ghosts or hells realms
this is completely unrelated but,, my mother used to blast the heart sutra frequently in my house back then and the only thing i catch is the “gate gate parasamgate bodhi svaha” which i used ,, whenever i see sth..that is supposed to be unseen
theres this time i stayed behind in cram school for an exam,, i purposely took a another path from my usual one to clear my head (but im still familiar) and i saw this guy standing on the side road and the only thing that went thru my mind back them was “why is he not moving? is he waiting for someone? is he lost or sth,, the main road is just 6 foot away tho lol”
it was until i keep looking at each house that i finally notice that the spot he stood on is not even a ground lvl asphalt,, it’s a fucking sewer which means that he’s actually floating 😭😭 i just jogged and say sth along the line “wow today, ma is cooking hotpot for dinner (i actually have no idea what she plans to cook everyday) i dont want to eat it cold,, so i better hurry up” out loud while chanting the verse in my head
theres also this time me and a friend were sitting on my motorcycle after getting our late night food run until a particular smell and when we stay silent, a woman is singing on the branch right above us that we dipped right away and i almost catch a ticket for speeding all the while thinking abt that verse💀
i dont mind seeing one of “them” but i do have a problem with them following me back home and end up haunting my house for some period of time,, that one or sth ghost who slam things around and giggle in the middle of the night is enough for me to deal with 😀
now im off crying abt genshin (again) now and i’ll go back to sleep afterwards,,, ALSO I LOVE WITCH HATE ATALIERJSJEJEJ- 🐱 (2)
you literally brought up THE SAME EXACT QUESTIONS I HAVE!!! like why would gojo send yuuta to find more of the rope if he destroyed it in the first place?? unless he destroyed it in the heat of the battle with miguel during the prequel but it didn’t look like that. also i saw on twitter kenjaku might not even be a male?? apparently when referring to kenjaku, tengen didn’t use gendered pronouns. im also super curious as to how the six eyes, star plasma vessel (riko...), tengen, and kenjaku are all entwined because kenjaku’s plan was a long time coming, even though he was foiled two times already.
this reminds me of the heavenly restrictions because im still so confused about what exactly it is!! is it something a person is born with or is it something that is placed on a baby by another person??
you brought up fate too and i think that’s such an interesting concept like with akutami making more and more references to the heian era and the “golden age of sorcery” in the end I feel like everything led up to this moment. the existence of cursed energy too just feels like this “endless cycle of fate” which makes sense considering this theme also kinda aligns with yuuji’s birth which was pre planned. idk...this whole thing is suddenly feeling so much more insidious than we may have originally thought.
the sudden christianity mention is a pretty odd choice on akutami’s part but a lot of ppl (including me) are speculating that hana is going to be a harbinger of doom or something. once again is she even japanese?? the western concept of angels have never been particularly altruistic either.
unfortunately gojo has always been treating megumi like an adult so i don’t think he was ever given the “you are a child” talk from gojo. we can see it in their first meeting too. when their conversation takes a turn to serious, it becomes a conversation is from one adult to another. gojo also seems like the type to pile even more responsibility onto megumi because gojo isn’t responsible, so megumi had to pick up that slack.
i agree with you. i think sukuna is literally a wild card LMAO he does what he wants when he wants and that’s in. i don’t even think you can have a contingency plan for sukuna because he’s just that unpredictable!!!
nanami, qifrey and MAYBE reigen LSDNFKJFKN....reigen beats gojo by far though so i’ll give reigen that (that's not saying much tho tbh 😭) reigen's still sexy as hell tho 😁
also you mentioned khr!! khr is one of my favorite mangas of all time....although amano akira cannot write women despite being one khr still holds a very special place in my heart. i had no idea mukuro was influenced by kannon (to be fair i was like 14) but then again...mukuro’s eyes....i can’t believe our tastes in animanga are the same....bestie our taste>>>
HELLO???? YOU’RE RUNNING INTO SUPERNATURAL CREATURES LIKE THAT??? also motorcycles!! now im like 80% sure you're in SEA somewhere, bc as someone who lived in a SEA country for 3 years and went to school in a haunted building I feel you LMAO
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Okay okay I have a big ass theory about this that I have for as long as I read red house arc.
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It's gonna get a lil religious (tbhk is revolved around shinto religion)
The thing inside of him is god like, it grants wishes, just like who hat made the seven mysteries.
Child tsukasa gave his body to the creature, but a spirit (yūrei) curropted like that can't just move on.
So a part of him stayed in the home he's had always been, and a part of him in his body shared with that thing that he met under his house.
But a yorishiro is the memory of something dear to you. Tsukasa is not what he was when he was alive.
Back in the day we see him more social and kind towards people and understanding of his surroundings, while yorishiro tsukasa is... None of that, he acts like a 4 year old.
He acts like a child with no understanding of what's real or not, and the other side of him, the more violent and the one that plans all, we see it when his iris is all dark,when his eyes are completely black.
That's the creature inside him still being in control even after dying
What Im trying to get that is that tsukasa might still be himself, but curropted by the supernatural inside him, a gid even that grants wishes that go against the laws of this world
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started playing octopath traveler. i like the visual design, music and general aesthetics. thk it is hard to tell where you can walk and where you cant. im not sure if the xp to next level means exp in this levels bin, like progress so far, or how much exp is need until the next level up. ui weirdness. sunshade section is real uncomfortable between orientalism, sexual coersion and worker exploitation! yall should unionize. oh it really is sex slavery. yikes. this is uncomfortable.
at least i got to kill him. was thinking why did primrose end up a sex slave if she really wanted to kill her father’s murderer why didn’t she train as a assassin or warrior like olberic for 15 years. but then i thought about it and posing as a dancer is exactly the stupid sort of thing a child would think up and then the slimebag tavern owner probably trapped her in a mile of debt and exploited someone vulnerable.
i started with tressa and went counterclockwise around the sea so now im done with everyone’s chapter 1. there’s was no real reason for choosing tressa, her’s seemed to be a less serious story and a soft intro to the game. and now that i have a party of tressa, therion, and alfyn its all about that economy. alfyn has powerful item based abilities and tressa and therion have abilites to get items so i hit the item cap (99 stack per item) before i hit level 20. I also got like a 120 atk bow before level 10 lol. money money money.
can’t believe shinto-catholic girl’s story got to me. h’aanit’s story is the one i find most compelling and the ch 2 i want to see the most. i like cyrus. he reminds me of miles edgeworth. comedically super serious walking sherlock holmes reference. also is it me or are there a lot of pop culture references in this game. my favorite character tho is alfyn. he’s a good boy. he also reminds me of one of my highschool ocs. what a good boy, i love him.
octopath traveler is a weird title. why didn’t they go with like the paths of eight travelers. or eight traveler’s paths. and what’s up that cat burglar enemy
overall i think the ch 1s were decent. there were some tropes that just seemed to be there because they are genre staples instead of doing anything with them, but its also only the first chapter. i said it already but the music is really good.
i ostly picked it up because time limited input games aren’t really enjoyable for me and there are so few games these days that aren’t like that. gameplay is like halfway between goldensun with its character based puzzle solving and the nds era smt games with the elemental weaknesses being a major part of battle. some of the ui stuff is clunky. the transition to battle screen is just bad. also idk if i missed it but weird that i can’t find the protags’ ages anywhere given how you learn the ages of every random npc. i mean i can guess based on the ages of people in their starting town. like alfyn, primrose, and ophilia are all like early twenties like. not quite as sure for h’aanit and therion but probably early-mid twenties too. tressa seems like typical jrpg protag age so like 17. olberic seems a bit older like mid thirties? the blur effect is too strong for my taste, i do like how it puts into focus where you character is at, but just a bit too much. some of the glittery effects seem to be based on where you are on the map so if you run around the white dots move super fast and i don’t like the look. i think there were trying to go for like a  boko or whatever and its fine if you take a screenshot of it, but in motion its really annoying.
oh yeah and i haven’t even started any ch2s and its already been 20+ hours so... im going to be here a while. (i keep getting lost!)
went and spoiled myself on secret classes. primrose deserves warmaster. i dont even play her (i dont get the summoning mechanics) but its what she deserves. read about how making cyrus a sorcerer is redundant, but have you considered, i like big numbers.
so party comp. i can’t get rid of tressa but i always need money anyways. therion is there for the same reason. and alfyn is there to use all the items and because he’s my fav. the last spot cycles between cyrus and h’aanit. i also really like h’aanit but cyrus’s ability is usefulf for finding weaknesses because i struggle to remember which elements i’ve already tried out and its such a bad time for me without cyrus. also big numbers. give me the explosions.
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