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Selene is the oldest known human mutant. Functionally immortal, her millennia-long life is attributed to her ability to drain the life essence from other beings to extend her own existence indefinitely. Her name derives from the ancient lunar deity Selene, daughter of the Titans Hyperion and Theia. Claiming to have already been old when modern mankind was just emerging, Selene was born over 17,000 years ago somewhere in what is now Central Europe, "after the Oceans swallowed Atlantis and before the rise of the Aryas". Her tribe's elders recognized her for what she was and commanded the entire tribe, including her own mother, to sacrifice their lives to feed her.[3]

Hyborian AgeEdit

Selene was revealed to have been an old enemy of the sorcerer Kulan Gath.[4] Kulan Gath was active during the Hyborian Age (before any recorded civilizations) and is known to have faced both Conan the Barbarian and Red Sonja. In fact, Sonja reportedly managed to kill him and his spirit would not manifest again until the modern era.[5] Thus, Selene was active at least as early as the Hyborian age.

Rome and EliphasEdit

Selene came to reside in Rome during the height of its empire. She approached Eliphas, a well-respected senator whose wife had left him for a general named Mascius. Selene offered him immortality in exchange for helping her kill and absorb every soul in Rome. Eliphas went about drawing pentagrams and performing rituals at several locations in the city, but warned a small girl to get her family out. The girl's father alerted the authorities and Eliphas and Selene were captured before the spell could be carried out. Just before they were burned at the stake Selene killed the guards. She then cursed Eliphas for his perceived betrayal with an eternal life of torture, transforming him into a vampire-like creature. Eliphas was buried alive for 700 years until a farmer discovered him in his field.[6]

Nova RomaEdit

In relatively recent times, Selene was trapped for centuries in the Amazon in the Romanesque town of Nova Roma. She was worshipped as a goddess and worked to maintain the isolation of the town so she could maintain control. Eliphas, having at some point in time changed his name to "Eli Bard," finally locates Selene in Nova Roma. Still in love with her despite her curse, Bard realizes that he must make an offering to her before he approaches her. She also was able to marry several times and have descendants, including Amara Aquilla. Her most recent known husband was Marcus Domitius Gallio, a senator of Nova Roma.

In Nova Roma, Selene attempted to kill Amara Aquilla. She knocked Amara into a lava pool, thereby releasing her latent mutant powers, as Magma. Selene fought and defeated Magma, and plotted to turn Danielle Moonstar into a psychic vampire like herself and conquer the world. Selene fought the New Mutants, and was cast into lava and buried alive.[7]

Becoming the Black QueenEdit

Selene directed her worshippers to undertake tasks that eventually allowed her to leave Nova Roma. She made her way to New York City, where she encountered Juggernaut at a bar. Selene planned to seduce and murder him, but was prevented when Wolverine manipulated a bar-room brawl between Juggernaut and Colossus. She then discovered the existence of Rachel Summers, whom she sought to turn into a slave only to be defeated by the X-Men. Prior to the X-Men saving her, Selene had tracked Rachel down to the home of a young man named Nicholas Damiano who had let the homeless Rachel spend the night at his place. Selene savagely murdered the young man, resulting in Rachel swearing revenge against Selene.[8]

With help from one of her worshippers, Friedrich Von Roehm, Selene made contact with the Hellfire Club and forced the group to take her on as the new Black Queen. She became critical in the X-Men's attempt to stop Kulan Gath, after he conquered New York City with a reality-altering spell though she ultimately attempted to doublecross the X-Men in order to steal Gath's talisman of power.[9]

Selene's time with the Hellfire Club was a turbulent time, due to her contempt for Sebastian Shaw and quite open desire to rule the Hellfire Club as its sole leader. This led Shaw and Emma Frost to conspire to kill Selene by manipulating and training the young mutant Firestar to assassinate her. This failed when Firestar realized what their plan.[10]

Selene and the Hellfire Club's relationship with the X-Men came to a head with Rachel Summers making an unauthorized assassination attempt on Selene. Wolverine felt honor-bound to prevent Rachel from becoming a murderer, and so, saved Selene's life by severely injuring Summers. Selene herself was enraged, and used the incident to force the Lords Cardinal to agree to hunt and kill Rachel. A battle over this issue immediately commenced between the X-Men and Lords Cardinal, but it was unexpectedly halted when it drew the attention of Nimrod, the super-sentinel who had murdered Selene's assistant Rhoem,[11] and was as bent on killing the X-Men and the Lords Cardinal. The Lords Cardinal and the X-Men hastily agreed to a truce, fighting well-enough to cause Nimrod to flee.

After this battle, in the pages of New Mutants, much was made about Selene having secret plans involving Nova Roma and Magma. Due to her love for Empath, Magma left the New Mutants to join the Hellions, only to be called home by her father to enter into an arranged marriage with a resident there. Magma's escort back home to Nova Roma turned out to be Empath, who ultimately decided to stay in the city with her. The two became lovers and Magma was freed from her arranged marriage plans so that she could be with him.[volume & issue needed]

Writer changes and the book's transition into X-Force caused the storyline to be aborted.[citation needed] Furthermore, it was revealed in New Warriors #31, via Empath, that Nova Roma was nothing more than an elaborate lie, concocted by Selene several decades prior. In a desperate bid to relive happier days in which she lived in ancient Rome, Selene arranged for hundreds of people to be kidnapped and taken to the jungles of the Amazon, to a city constructed per her designs. There she was somehow able to utterly brainwash her prisoners to believe themselves descendants of ancient Romans living in the Amazon. Magma was one of these kidnapped and brainwashed souls, according to Empath. The city was disbanded and the residents returned to their regular lives across the globe.

Years later, due to Chris Claremont wishing to undo writer Fabian Nieciza's dismantling of the concept of Nova Roma,[citation needed] Claremont ignored said story and wrote Magma as she had been originally. He later had Magma make cryptic references to having been manipulated into believing Nova Roma was a lie by parties unknown that sought to hurt Magma. Furthermore, the five-issue mini-series "New Mutants Forever" revealed that Claremont originally planned on revealing Magma to be Selene's granddaughter. This family connection would be stated as well (with no build-up) in New Mutants V3 #6-8, which had Selene resurrect Magma's teammate Cypher to try to kill Magma. Furthermore, it was strongly implied during "Necrosha" that Sebastian Shaw and Emma Frost manipualted the Empath/Magma relationship in order to get Empath inside Nova Roma.[volume & issue needed] In the event that Selene struck first and eliminated both, Empath would then use his powers to dismantle the city via convincing the residents that their lives were lies concocted by Selene.

Selene ultimately was the deciding vote to vote Sebastian Shaw out of the Hellfire Club, when tension between Shaw and the newly recruited White King Magneto came to blows.[12] Unknown to Magneto or Emma Frost, however, Selene had decided that she no longer had any need for the Club and began plotting its destruction by gathering an army of young mutants, with help from the mutant omnipath known as the Gamesmaster, calling them the Upstarts. Under her authority, the Upstarts engaged in a killing spree that led to many presumed deaths (Magneto, Sebastian Shaw, Donald Pierce, and the Reavers), mortal injuries (Emma Frost), and outright deaths (the Hellions). Selene manipulated her young followers with the promise of a game, where each murder committed would land them points that would ultimately lead to them being granted a prize, described as "being the next best thing to immortality" by the Gamemaster. However, with another writer change, Selene's involvement with the Upstarts was cut short as she herself was betrayed by Trevor Fitzroy. Selene was kept in a torture device that repeatedly ripped her flesh from her body (to attract the attention of the Gamesmaster, who took advantage of the situation to proclaim himself the new leader of the Upstarts). She would be freed by Amanda Sefton, though the torture left her weak and scarred.[volume & issue needed]

Needing to replenish her power, Selene first attacked and killed the other surviving Externals. Though she was opposed by X-Force, she managed to complete the slaughter and knock out the mutants, until Cable arrived. Selene's attempt to absorb Cable's life backfired when she touched his techno-organic arm and she was forced to flee to maintain her power. Shortly afterwards, she tried to access the power of a mystical convergence using a Runestaff made from the roots of Yggdrasil, the Norse World Tree. She came to the Exploding Colossal Man festival in New Mexico, but was again opposed by X-Force, who managed to wrest the Runestaff away from her and destroy the Colossal Man mannequin it activated. Selene missed her opportunity for ultimate power and vowed vengeance on X-Force.[volume & issue needed]

She next appeared back in Brazil, where she had tracked Sunspot, along with Deviants posing as S.H.I.E.L.D. agents. She lured Sunspot to her defense, and offered him a position of power in the Hellfire Club, which he refused, regardless of the illusions with which she tempted him. However, Sunspot went along with Selene to stop the Deviants in the Damocles Foundation from activating a Celestial Gatherer. Selene herself was attacked by the Sword strike team, but she managed to cast a spell that devolved them back to lizards. Along with the rest of X-Force, Selene was able to usurp control of the machinery that activated the Gatherer, but Moonstar and Arcadia destroyed the Celestial artifact before Selene could access its power.[volume & issue needed]

Selene then returned to her post as the Black Queen of the Hellfire Club, after striking a deal with the demon Blackheart and seemingly throwing out the rest of the Inner Circle. She offered Sunspot the position of Black Rook, which he initially refused but then accepted when Selene and Blackheart revealed that his doing so would allow them to resurrect the spirit of Juliana Sandoval, the girl who died saving Sunspot's life when he first joined the New Mutants. Sunspot had no choice to accept and become Selene's protégé.[volume & issue needed]

However, with Sebastian Shaw's return to the Hellfire Club, Selene was somehow trapped inside the catacombs under the Club. However, she gained limited mobility from an alliance with Donald Pierce. When the X-Men, including Rachel Summers arrived, during a membership change in the Hellfire Club, Selene plotted to use Rachel to completely free herself. She followed Rachel to Hong Kong via a transport portal and saved her from being corrupted by a telepathic agent of Courtney Ross, who was trying to become the next White Queen. This move was only a prelude to Selene taking over Rachel's mind, but Marvel Girl was too strong for Selene and expelled her, keeping Selene trapped for a time beneath the Hellfire Club headquarters.[volume & issue needed]

After M-DayEdit

Selene was one of the few mutants to retain her powers after the events of M-Day.[13]

Selene, disguised as an old woman, befriends Wither and they live together in Mutant Town.[14] She encourages him to use his powers and not be afraid of his natural gifts. She then asks him if he would use his powers to save his or her life. She had been killing a large number of people by draining their life-forces, and during her last feeding her disguise was spotted by a witness. She reveals to Wither that Laurie has died, while he was away. Later she is attacked by the police and managed to kill two of them before being shot multiple times. Wither arrives and kills the other two officers, only for Selene to drop her disguise, telling him she is immortal and that they are two of a kind and should be together. She tells Wither that she will be his queen if he agrees, then kisses him, and he consents.[15]

Eli Bard's offeringEdit

Selene's relationship with Eli Bard is explained by Warpath to the other members of X-Force. It is revealed he had originally planned to sacrifice the Purifiers to Selene but changed his plans upon seeing Bastion reprogram an offspring of Magus. Using the Technarch transmode virus he reanimated the corpses in the burial grounds of the Apache tribe that he had decimated decades earlier along with Caliban. He presented them to Selene for the purpose of finding other dead mutants and resurrecting them by the same means, so that Bard can sacrifice them and their powers to her.[16]

NecroshaEdit

Main article: Necrosha

One week before the event of Necrosha, Selene has the recently resurrected Destiny brought before her where she asks what her future holds.[17]

Selene returns to the place of her birth in central Europe, accompanied by new Inner Circle, consisting of Blink, Senyaka, Mortis, Wither, and Eli Bard. She sets her plan into motion of becoming a goddess with her Inner Circle; they go to the New York branch of the Hellfire Club, where they slaughter everyone present. Selene then targets others who she feels have obstructed, or otherwise failed, her in her quest for divinity, namely Sebastian Shaw, Donald Pierce, Emma Frost (against whom she especially holds a grudge because of Frost's use of the "Black Queen" codename when working for the Dark X-Men), the X-Men, and Magma. Caliban and Thunderbird then lead her to the ruins of Genosha. Selene dubs the ruins Necrosha and swears that her journey will end here.[18] While most of the resurrected mutants attack the X-Men and Utopia, Selene is seen with Eli Bard resurrecting the massacred residents of Genosha, with Cerebro detecting the rise of mutant numbers in millions (the first life-signs detected by Bastion's computers include Spoor, Katu, Unus, REM-RAM, Static, and Barnacle).[19] There is a major problem though: a lot of the deceased have been depowered, despite having been killed BEFORE M-day. Wither and Mortis explain what happened and the Coven begins to set up base at Necrosha. It turns out that Selene can't do the ritual yet, because Eli Bard lost the knife that was required to do it. She then dispatches her crew and they end up taking the knife back, capturing Warpath in the process. Once Bard gives Selene the knife and proclaims his eternal love for her, Selene stabs Eli, killing him (much to Wither's delight). Warpath is eventually rescued by the Vanisher but Selene absorbs the many souls around her, turning light blue and growing in size. She finally becomes the goddess she had sought to be for so long. Turning to her followers, she commands them to get her more souls.[20] Warpath was able to destroy Selene by plunging his dagger into her chest, after teaching X-Force the Ghost Dance, a ritual meant to kill evil spirits such as Selene. Shocked that her moment of godhood was taken away so quickly, Selene explodes into rays of light.[20]

Sometime after Selene's death, Blink attempted to resurrect the Black Queen. Blink was eventually stopped by Emma Frost and a small team of X-Men (consisting of Blindfold, Pixie, Husk, Warpath) along with former Sorcerer Supreme Doctor Strange who managed successfully to purge Blink of Selene's corrupted influence.[21]

ReturnEdit

It was later revealed that Selene's body and soul had been preserved as airborne particles and somehow stored in stasis in a vault located somewhere in New York City. Lady Deathstrike and the Enchantress gained access to the vault and through the newly enhanced magic granted to her by the sentient virus, Arkea, she was able to fully restore Selene to physical life for the purpose of adding her to the newly formed Sisterhood of Mutants.[22]

Power EliteEdit

In the aftermath of the "Secret Empire," Selene has publicly become head of the White House's "Task Force of Faith-Based Initiatives", and joined the "Power Elite", an alliance of powerful people including Thunderbolt Ross, Baron von Strucker, and Alexa Lukin.[23] She also assisted in the resurrection of Alexa's husband Aleksander Lukin who also joined the Power Elite. Though the side-effect also revived a remnant of the Red Skull's mind that was in Aleksander.[24]

Dawn of XEdit

Selene was eventually welcomed to the new mutant island of Krakoa, created by Xavier, Magneto and Moira. She entered through the teleportation gateway alongside other villainous and fractious mutants, who had been invited to join the nation in order to heal mutantdom and start over as a whole species together.[25]

Selene alongside Emplate, had been tasked by Xavier with measuring the amount of psychic energy that Krakoa would take from its inhabitants. A similar protocol was put in place for them both as they also need to nourish on mutants for survival.[

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Godzilla Gang Revised: Monsters of Myth

In this entry of the Godzilla Gang Revised, we focus on monsters from a lost age of human history, when select humans merged with the few surviving Venusians and created an empire of magitech wonders. An age of dragons and phoenixes, wizards and heroes. These are the monsters of myth, creatures that modern man considers mere legends - until they re-emerge into the world as a new age of monsters begins.

The kaiju profiles here will be written in the order they appear on the size chart, BTW.

King Shisa: largest and greatest of the Shisa lion dogs, King Shisa swore an oath to defend the land that would eventually be named Okinawa. The mighty mammal fought many battles to protect his home and the humans that came to dwell there, and was rewarded with a set of enchanted armor and a golden crown for his efforts. He was so devoted that, in his old age, he allowed himself to be enchanted, turning his body to stone so he could better withstand the passing of time, only to become flesh and blood once more when Okinawa’s hour of need comes again.

Manda: one of the largest specimens of Asian dragon, Manda is an abnormally large ryujin, a dragon species that specializes in causing seastorms. Though prone to terrorizing humans in her youth, Manda eventually befriended the people of Mu, a colony of the great civilization of Nirai Kanai. When a cataclysm of their own design was poised to destroy them, Manda helped the people of Mu survive in the depths of the Ocena, and has guarded their underwater fortress for thousands of years since.

Megalon: an enormous beetle, it is unclear if Megalon is a relic of the first Atomic era, the Atomic Ice Age, or some other strange circumstance. What is known is that he is a protector, having shepherded early groups of humans to underground shelters in humanity’s prehistory. His kind and trusting nature eventually saw him employed by the civilization of Nirai Kanai, and he served them loyally - even when defending them brought him into conflict with the daughters of Inagos (and Battra in particular). When Nirai Kanai fell, Megalon helped a large colony survive by building a large underground cavern for them to hide in, and so founded the subterranean world of Seatopia. The Seatopians “repaid” Megalon by allowing some strange humanoids who called themselves “Space Hunters” to experiment on him, removing one set of his arms and replacing his original claws with enormous drills. Though kind-hearted, Megalon’s trusting nature and indefatigable loyalty often prove his undoing, and the dull-minded creature is often put into bad situations by his poisonous friends.

Gabara: a warty amphibious ogre, Gabara’s roar is worse than his electric shocks. Physically weak for a creature of his size and utterly unskilled in combat, Gabara depends on being able to scare other monsters away for survival, as any that actually try to fight him will quickly realize how weak of an opponent he is. Luckily, he is aided by his unusual and strong connection to the psychic plane, which allows Gabara to manifest in the dreams of others and turn them into horrible nightmares. Creatures unfortunate enough to live in the area Gabara is currently nesting in will suffer recurring bad dreams, with the ogre portrayed as a dire threat beyond all others in them. As a result, most creatures that encounter the beast are too paralyzed with fear to act against him, allowing Gabara to beat them up in their terror-stricken state before beating a hasty retreat when they begin to regain control.

Gekido Jin: The largest and cruelest of all oni, Gekido Jin menaced the country that would become Japan. His reign of terror was only ended when King Shisa faced him in combat, beating the the oni into submission so a shrine maiden could bind the tyrant in a powerful enchantment, turning Gekido-Jin to stone. However, much like King Shisa (who would go under a similar enchantment willingly), Gekido Jin can rise again, if a human being gives their life to end the enchantment. What dark hour could inspire such a sacrifice scarcely bears contemplation.

Axor: a serpent-like creature, cults of Axor have been found all over the world, and the three-eyed serpent is always spoken of with a mix of reverence and abject dread. A hypnotic and mind-controling tyrant, Axor enslaved vast nations in his heyday, and was set to rule the world before he faced resistance from an unlikely source. Refugees from Venus arrived on earth, sporting psychic powers comparable to Axor’s own, and quickly merged with humanity to combat the reptile’s cruel reign. Soon Axor was forced to retreat from the psychic assault of the Venusians, and the civilization they forged on Earth established several safeguards to prevent him from returning. Of course, Nirai Kanai eventually fell to their own hubris, their survivors scattered and lost, their vast cities almost entirely reduced to dust - and so Axor may rise again...

Crustaclops: A strange hybrid of crustacean and man, the beast that modern kaijuologists call Crustaclops is in fact one of the earliest artificially created chimeras of Nirai Kanai. Though crude compared to their later efforts, his ability to turn invisible and levitate large objects (or even creatures) still makes him a formidable creature, and his nature as a hybrid of terrestrial and aquatic species proved to be a winning formula in the eyes of his creators. (Based on the Cyclops Creature from The Godzilla Power Hour.)

Balkzardan: primarily a hybrid of shark and wolf (among other things), Balkzardan can run faster than almost any other kaiju, while still sporting thick armor that keeps it safe from harm. Though useful as a weapon of war, Balkzardan’s primary purpose was to control the weather, with the ability to summon and channel lightning through its horns and call down hail from the skies. This is where the monster went wrong, as Balkzardan went berserk and created vast horrible storms across the world, forcing the people of Nirai Kanai to seal him away and try a different experiment.

Jyarumu: designed to be a bit less ambitious than Balkzardan, Jyarumu kept the ability to freeze opponents (though not the ability to summon ice storms) and was otherwise built to be a weapon first and foremost. Huge and stronge, Jyarumu’s durable wings allow him to fight enemies on land, sea, and sky. Unfortunately, she was a bit too enthusiastic about her job, and also had to be sealed away.

Dagarla: a vast sea dragon, Dagarla was meant to keep the oceans from getting polluted, and initially he was very good at this task. Unfortunately, a species of parasitic starfish that latched onto him mutated into the deadly and poisonous barem, and began to reproduce uncontrollably by leeching off of the sea monster’s bodily fluids. The people of Nirai Kanai could not figure out how to stop Dagarla’s barem infestation, which were now threatening all of the earth’s seas, and so were forced to seal Dagarla away as well, much to the dragon’s shock and dismay. Dagarla did not take the betrayal well, and now harbors a grudge against humanity.

Rajin: a chimera of various arthropods, Rajin was meant to create vast quantities of food for humanity and thereby end world hunger. However, the food produced by Rajin proved incredibly addictive, and soon people clamored to devour Rajin alive. The monster did not take this well, and Rajin not only killed thousands of humans, but began to attack any representatives of Nirai Kanai who attempted to reclaim him. So, like many other creations, he was sealed away.

Norzekmet: Nirai Kanai and its various sub-countries did not stick merely to flesh and blood kaiju. Living statues, the predecessors to modern humanity’s mecha, were also among their creations, and the crown jewel of these was Norzekmet, a flying sphinx made of metal and carved stone. A powerful and loyal servant, Norzekmet continues to defend the civilization of his masters, even after their death. (Based on Norzzug from Godzilla: The Series, as well as Michael Dougherty’s description of what the unseen Monsterverse kaiju Sekmet.)

Norzug: Even ancient civilizations have a march of progress, and Norzekmet’s predecessor, Norzug, is proof of that. While far cruder in construction than its improved successor, Norzug proved just as durable and long-lasting, working with its younger “sibling” to protect the ruins of their masters all the way to the present day. (Based on the Stone Guardians from The Godzilla Power Hour.)

Majin Tuol: Another pinnacle of Nirai Kanai technology, the golden guardian Majin Tuol is second to Norzekmet only because of the gaudy choices in his construction, as the gold used for his outer covering is not as durable as the alloys that cover his sphinx-like cousin. Nevertheless, he is a powerful foe in battle, and waits in the ruins of his master’s home for the day when he is called to action again. (Based on the Golden Guardians from The Godzilla Power Hour.)

Mekolossus: While less ornate and more obviously mechanical than the other technical marvels of its age, Mekolossus is still an impressive feat of engineering, with a stream-lined metal body and powerful tentacles tipped with sharp pincers. The machine still guards the ruins of Atlantis, one of the largest and most famous cities of the Nirai Kanai empire. (Based on the Atlantean Colossus from The Godzilla Power Hour.)

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Supernatural season 2 review (part 1)

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Here we are, we’ve already finished the second season of Supernatural (we’ve also already started the third to tell the truth) and it’s time for my second review. I have to say I’ve enjoyed this season more than the previous one, maybe because I knew the main characters (mainly Sam, Dean and Bobby) quite well, and also because I think the plots of all the episodes were really catchy and original.

The first episode is meant to be tragic, with all the issues connected to Dean’s apparently inevitable death, but I wasn’t worried at all because 1. Dean had already escaped death once , in episode 12 from season 1, when a healer kind of cured him; 2. one of the main characters can’t die in the second season out of fifteen; 3. Carly had told me they always seem to die but they never actually do, or if they do they suddenly resuscitate. Despite all that, seeing Sam so sad about his brother really broke my heart, not to mention all the things he’ll go through during this season, but let’s go in order. Of course the price for Dean’s life is high, but at least we finally get rid of John… I don’t want to be harsh on him, because at the end (by the way I’m not sure this is really the end for him) he does what every good father would do sacrificing his life for his son’s, but still I couldn’t help blaming him for how he treated the brothers when they were children (a lot of details from their childhood emerge in these episodes through flashbacks) and how he denied them a happy life, so that I don’t think this ultimate sacrifice is enough to repay Sam and Dean, also because it makes Dean feel so guilty even though he has no reason to.

John’s death gives the boys a new impulse to hunt the “Yellow-eyed demon”, which killed their mum and at this point also their dad, because Dean was saved thanks to a deal he made with the demon. In their search for this creature they find out there’s a complex net of hunters John belonged to, who gather in a bar owned by Ellen, wife of a dead hunter, and her daughter Jo. They seem to have some secrets but still help the boys in their hunts: especially Jo is willing to become a huntress herself and embodies the prototype of the young girl who wants to follow her own path and make her experiences break free from her mother’s control. But Ellen, helped at some point by Sam and Dean, just wants to protect her from a dangerous job, the same that killed her husband and which will end up killing both of them. A special mention to another character met by the brothers at the Roadhouse, Ellen’s bar, Ash, a really weird man who can find out whatever is needed in an impressively short lapse of time. He doesn’t talk much but he’s extremely helpful, and I think Sam and Dean never thank him enough for his work.

I’d say the second antagonist of this season (the first is of course the Yellow-eyed demon) is Gordon, a hunter Sam and Dean meet while hunting some vampires. From the very beginning it was clear to me that he was a real pain in the ass (do I have to start worrying about the fact that I constantly feel like using Dean’s expressions? And even if Sam is still my favourite one?), but Dean really liked him at first, maybe because he desperately unconsciously needed a strong figure to take the place of his dad. Sam immediately recognises him as extremely cruel, because he kills creatures instinctively supposing they will necessarily harm someone just by the fact they’re supernatural. But also the brothers, especially Dean, sometimes seem to be driven by this thought, so I think the episode about the “vegetarian” and harmless vampires (the same in which we meet Gordon for the first time) also demonstrates them not only that not all hunters are good people, but also that not all supernatural creatures are bad. That’s a good lesson, because it leads them to focus and argue more about the ethical aspects of their work and about how murder of whichever creature is a very problematic ground to which they must always pay attention, in order to kill less and try saving as many innocent creatures as possible. Going back to Gordon, after having tried to separate Sam and Dean, both mentally and physically, he gets arrested (but of course he comes back to bother them as the show goes on) and Dean finally understands he has to rely more on Sam’s judgement and accept the fact he’s an adult who doesn’t always need his supervision and who can also protect and help him if necessary, in every possible way.

One of the big deals of this season is Sam’s struggle to find his identity, solving the mystery about his psychic abilities. Everything can be related to the Yellow-eyed demon who wants Sam to be the leader of a demonic army. His meetings with other guys (such as Andy) who have similar abilities and lots of things in common with him make the episode’s plots quite interesting, but the ending was quite banal to me: even if you don’t know who’s actually dying or surviving, you still always know that Sam won’t die (or, at least, that if he will, he’ll also eventually resuscitate). I also found so unrealistic that Dean would kill his brother if he becomes evil. Of course that’s what John whispers to him at the very end (and we all know Dean would do anything to please his dad), but still it’s very unlikely to happen both because Dean would never kill Sam, even if it was the right choice to make, and because Sam would rather kill himself than becoming evil.

Another thing I have to point out is the constant breaking of the law. I do understand they always do it for the best, but the fact remains, and I think they could do better if they only wanted to. Starting with credit card fraud: I do understand they earn nothing from their job, but I still think deliberately stealing money just because your job is to save the world and you don’t get paid for that is wrong (not to mention they spend it to buy disgusting food…). Going on, I don’t understand completely passing themselves off as police officers or FBI agents: I know this way it’s easier to get information quickly, but if they really wanted to they could do it without this constant lying. But, you know, that’s just fiction… But also in fiction you get arrested! Sam and Dean know it well, but we have to say also the police knows them well (that’s easy if you are evidently involved in a bank robbery!) and keeps trying to catch and imprison them. Who can blame them? Without knowing the truth, the brothers make a lot of unexplainable crimes… And I think the fact the police is after them keeps the show on a field of realness, even if I can’t stop wondering how they figure out hiding from the police from very long periods of time (by the way police seems always to be quite stupid in series like Supernatural, that is when you see events from the “criminal” ’s point of view).

I’ll go quickly examining in order the episodes I liked (or scared me) the most. Episode 2 scared me quite a lot, but that’s just because I find clowns really really frightful: I can’t understand how a child could find them funny, to me they’re just terrifying. Episode 9 quite hit me because the story of the mortal virus reminded me how what we considered supernatural some months ago is now real and tragically near us. I also have to mention episodes 13 and 15. In the former, angels seem to order people to kill sinners and that’s a crucial point because it’s one of the first mentions of God, faith and religion in general in the series. I found it quite interesting because it’s unusual to have this kind of theological reflection in a fantasy story (Carly also pointed me out Dean’s lack of faith in angels, which is ironic considering his future close relationship with an angel, Castiel, but I was not supposed to know that). In the latter Bobby appears to help the boys: that’s important because he’ll be a permanent character and because both Carly and I love him. He’s literally the kind and caring and strict-when-needed father Sam and Dean never had and deserved, and I’m happy he’s always there to support them and make them feel like they’re not alone in doing their job. By the way, my favourite episode was the twentieth because it’s been involving to see Dean’s possible life if his mother wasn’t dead: it underlines this feeling Dean has in the whole season (and as far as I now in the whole series) of having wasted his life, which could have been happy and stable instead of constantly in danger. It’s been heartbreaking seeing Dean renouncing to a perfect life, the one he had always desired, in the belief his current life could never be perfect, but it’s the one he’s destined to and it’s the altruistically best choice he can possibly make.

In conclusion, the last two episodes are dedicated to the solving of the plot and the last fight with the villain of the season: after having kidnapped Sam and the other guys with superpowers he’s defeated, as that was predictable, and the boys can’t stop a horde of demonic creatures to come out from hell, whose doors the Yellow-eyed demon succeeded to open. Well, they could’ve tried to close them faster but they were too distracted by the epiphany of John Winchester who came out of hell to say hi and encourage them to keep fighting… But thinking about it, if they succeeded in closing the doors and preventing the demons from coming out from hell, who do you think they would have hunted in the next season(s)?

- Irene 💕

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Some HOTD hcs because the fixation never stops. All on the topic of the boss creatures having borderline supernatural/psychic abilities

All the final bosses speak through telepathy (p sure that is canon) and can use this communicate with creatures and humans, whether one-on-one or to a few or to many or to everyone. They’re also prone to involuntarily sending out what I can only describe as psychic waves (and in some cases, intentionally do so), and have a sort of psychic field around them. The effects vary but the most common are feelings of dread, hallucinations and intense dreams/nightmares, and some level of self-destructive thoughts and actions. Sapient creatures are not immune to these waves or fields.

All bosses actually have a similar psychic field but the lesser bosses’ are much much weaker, and can only instill a mild sense of disturbance within humans. The main purpose of these fields is to help locate other living beings. It assists the creatures without good senses and makes the ones with good senses even more perceptive.

The waves the major bosses send out serve a similar purpose, and while they’re usually involuntary they also serve the purpose of communicating and could be put to good use.

During their incubation, Emperor sent out many waves, pretty much driving most of the researches to despair and paranoia and fucking w/ all the other bosses. Their presence caused lasting bouts of nightmares for both Gary and James even after dying, and their effect as well as their successor’s influenced James to sacrifice himself instead of just throwing his pager.

The strength of Moon’s psychic influence is at the level of Emperor and The World but has (erm, had) more influence over creatures.

Magician and the Wheel of Fate do not have nearly as strong as an effect, at least in that way. Wheel of Fate’s had a “less detrimental” effect- he was able to keep the creatures from wandering, keep Death in check, and prevent Daniel from getting too distressed. On the other hand, Magician put more of his power to super speed and the like so his power was just channeled elsewhere.

The animal-humanoid hybrid bosses that control other creatures are pretty much psychic hotspots or whatever. Not only can they communicate with and control their own designated creatures (hangedman w/ devilons, zeal w/ Kuarl, hierophant w/ mofish) but they’re very perceptive to any waves sent out by the greater bosses.

Hierophant and Hangedman both experienced odd dreams during the growth of Emperor and Moon respectively. Hierophant tried to decipher these dreams, seeing them as omens. It wrote and drew out what it saw on the walls and rocks of its enclosure, and it did the same with the sides of buildings in the city. Hangedman, however, just had an awful time. None of it made sense, it was just terrifying and only left him more unstable. He ended up connecting some things back to Moon and identified this other creature as the source, but he just went “hm. that’s fucked up” and continued to experience them until he died.

On top of the whole “controlling Kuarl” thing, Zeal is also aided by the whole “lowkey psychic ability” thing because for him it manifests as having a pretty good sense of what’s around him without having to use any of his other senses, which is good because he’s blind. Still has to use echolocation but it helps. He did not experience any Weird Psychic Dream Visions but he found out that Heirophant did and got rlly pissy and jealous abt it because he doesn’t understand why Emperor would dare give anything nice to anyone that isn’t him. Selfish cuck.

Oh and uh. Also. This last bit is kinda weird/self indulgent/outlandish but

Death is Very Much Aware of the fact he was human (or at least, was made using one specific human as the base and therefore originated from that man even if he’s dead and gone) and is also aware of the lives of the owners of the skulls in his baton. In fact he’s experienced some of their memories.

#yeah fuck it man. psychic zombies #house of the dead #the house of the dead #man idfc if I’m cringe I’m free!!!#headcanons #hotd headcanons #suicide mention #cw swearing

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Madelyne Pryor was a cargo pilot in Anchorage, Alaska working for Scott Summers' grandparents when she and Scott meet during a Summers family reunion.[15] A romantic relationship quickly begins between them; however, Scott is disturbed at her striking resemblance to his dead lover, Jean Grey/Phoenix.[16] Also, she was the sole survivor of an airplane crash that occurred the same day Phoenix died on the moon.[17] In addition, Professor X is unable to scan her mind (which, he notes, is occasionally the case with normal humans). Scott, still recovering from Jean's death, becomes obsessed with the idea that Madelyne is her reincarnation, eventually confronting her with his suspicions. Madelyne, furious and hurt, punches Scott and runs from him.[4] As soon as she is alone, she is abducted by Mastermind, who had been manipulating the X-Men for months — as revenge for being driven temporarily insane by Phoenix due to his involvement in her corruption. To defeat him, Storm summons a violent storm which nearly kills Madelyne, but Scott resuscitates her. After the conflict, Scott comes to terms with the fact that Jean Grey is dead and that Madelyne is not her, and that he loves her all the same. The two are married, and Scott retires from active duty with the X-Men.[5]

AnodyneEdit

Giving up the life of an adventurer proves harder for Scott than imagined. Early in Madelyne and Scott's marriage, they (along with Alpha Flight and the rest of the X-Men) are taken to an abandoned city by the Asgardian trickster-god Loki. Entirely for his own purposes, Loki bestows mystical powers on a small group of non-powered humans, including Madelyne, transforming her into a healer of virtually any injury, illness, psychological issue, or physical defect. She adopts the name "Anodyne" and cures Scott's childhood head injury, enabling him to control his optic blasts without the use of ruby-quartz lenses. She also removes Aurora's DID and Wolverine's berserker rage. When it is discovered that Loki's gifts are extremely flawed, and fatal to some, everyone assembled reject the gift. Madelyne and the other beneficiaries are reverted to their original states, as are all those who had been healed by Madelyne. During this adventure Madelyne reveals that she is pregnant.[18]

AbandonmentEdit

Going into premature labor, Madelyne gives birth to a baby boy (Nathan Christopher Charles Summers) alone in the X-Mansion.[19] Sensing a reluctance on Scott's part to retire to family life, a powerless Storm challenges him to a duel for leadership of the team, which Storm wins. This in effect forces Scott to accept his new role as a husband and father.[20]

Although Scott tries to live a normal family life in Alaska, he often thinks of Jean Grey, and of his life with the X-Men. Maddie tries her best to make Scott happy, but her efforts seem wasted. Finally Scott receives a call from his former teammate Angel that Jean Grey has been found alive. Without explaining himself, Scott abandons Madelyne and their son to reunite with his lost love, and forms X-Factor with his old friends from the original X-Men.[21] Madelyne and Nathan are then attacked by the Marauders; Nathan is kidnapped and Madelyne left for dead, but survives and is hospitalized as a "Jane Doe".[22] A guilt-wracked and increasingly unstable Scott returned home to find his house empty, and all records of his family's existence erased.[23]

Alone and threatened, Madelyne calls the X-Men for help; they arrive and fight off another attack by the Marauders.[24] Despairing from Scott's absence and of her son's fate, she contemplates suicide. Madelyne's brother-in-law, Alex Summers (Havok), talks her out of it, and the two of them grow closer.[25] With the Marauders still after her, she stays with the X-Men, and they sacrifice their lives to stop the Adversary from remaking the world in Fall of the Mutants. A reporter video-interviews them before their death, and Maddie uses this to deliver a message to Scott, pleading that he find their child.[26] With the world thinking them dead, Madelyne and the X-Men are resurrected by the Omniversal Guardian Roma and begin working secretly out of an abandoned Reavers base in Australia. Madelyne serves as the team's technical support.[27]

Demonic corruption and origins revealedEdit

Monitoring news transmissions, Madelyne learns that Jean Grey is alive and with Scott. She punches the computer monitor's screen, breaking it and causing electrical feedback that renders her unconscious.[28] The Limbo demon S'ym invades Madelyne's mind during her unconscious state, and tempts her to take on the power that would make her the Goblin Queen. Believing to be dreaming, Madelyne accepts.[29]

Madelyne keeps the existence of the original X-Men as X-Factor secret from the others, filtering in only information and news showing X-Factor as an anti-mutant group. Later abducted by the Genoshans and taken to their island-nation,[30] Madelyne is subjected to psychic torture intended to transform her into a docile slave of the state. Madelyne instinctively lashes out with her developing abilities, which cause the deaths of her torturers.[31] In the recorded images of the psychic probe performed on Madelyne, a connection is made to the Phoenix Force and her appearance reflects her eventual change into the Goblin Queen.[32] Shortly after being rescued by the X-Men, Madelyne strikes a bargain with another demon, N'astirh, to find the Marauders and return her son to her. During this time, she and Alex become lovers.[33]

Goblin-Queen Madelyne meets Mr. Sinister. Art by Marc Silvestri.

To keep his end of their bargain, N'astirh takes Madelyne to the orphanage in Nebraska where Scott grew up, actually a front for Mr. Sinister's genetic laboratory. Sinister appears and tells Madelyne about her origins.[34] When he learnt about Jean Grey, he planned to eliminate her parents and take the girl to his orphanage. Fortunately for them, Charles Xavier had already approached them and started to work with the young girl. Sinister only managed to acquire a blood and tissue sample which he then created a clone of her. However, the clone had no life and failed to develop any mutant powers, so Sinister left the clone in her incubation tube as a failed experiment. When Phoenix took her own life, a part of the Phoenix Force entered and awakened the clone, giving her sentience and renewed Sinister's interest. Sinister named her "Madelyne Pryor", and created a false background, implanted memories, and a personality designed to attract Summers and conceived a plan to use the clone to facilitate selective breeding between her and Scott. He then planted her with Scott's grandparents' company, thus ensuring the two would eventually meet.[35] As Jean Grey's return might cause the truth about Madelyne to be uncovered if the two were to meet, Sinister tasked his Marauders with killing Madelyne and bringing him Nathan, the fruits of his scheme.[35][36]

Broken in spirit to insanity by the revelations,[37] when N'astirh gives Nathan back to her, she willingly decides to aid N'astirh in his demonic invasion of Earth.[35] Returning to New York City, where the demonic invasion is already in full swing, she confronts X-Factor with the revelation that she is alive.[38] When the X-Men arrive, Madelyne steers the teams against each other at first, and convinces Alex to join her. X-Factor and the other X-Men work together to defeat N'astirh.[39] Madelyne refuses to stop, forcing the heroes to overwhelm her. Cyclops rescues his son, but Madelyne commits suicide in an attempt to telepathically take Jean with her. The Phoenix Force appears to Jean and offers to save her, but in order to survive Jean has to integrate the essence of both the Phoenix and Madelyne, gaining their memories and personalities.[40] Mr. Sinister attempts to entrap all of the X-Men and X-Factor in Madelyne's dying mind, but forced to choose between having revenge either on the X-Men or Mr. Sinister, Madelyne ejects Mr. Sinister from her mind. With her personality influencing Jean's, she then prompts the X-Men and X-Factor to attempt lethal retribution against him.[41]

Jean, having inherited Madelyne's maternal feelings for Nathan Christopher, becomes his proxy mother and briefly raises him until Apocalypse, seeing the potential threat in the child, infected him with a techno-organic virus. Dying, the child was taken 2,000 years into the future by Askani to be saved.

ReappearanceEdit

Madelyne mysteriously reappears years later as an amnesiac to Nate Grey (X-Man), the "genetic offspring" of Scott Summers and Jean Grey from the alternate reality known as the Age of Apocalypse, when he arrives into Earth-616.[10] Under the tutelage of Selene, Madelyne eventually becomes the Hellfire Club's "Black Rook" (even becoming Sebastian Shaw's mistress),[42] has her memories of her previous life restored by Tessa,[43] and meets her aged son Cable in an uneasy truce.[44]

It is revealed that Madelyne is actually a "psionic construct" inadvertently resurrected by a combination of Nate Grey's psionic powers and his desperate need for a mother figure upon his arrival on Earth-616.[45] Antagonistic for a time after this revelation, eventually she and Nate become companions, until an attack by Strikesquad: Gauntlet, a group of operatives wearing psi-shielded armor, Madelyne was buried alive by one of them. She managed to escape by teleporting, yet, as the battle had taken a lot out of X-Man, she looked drained and withered. In no shape to continue whatever plans she had with Nate, she left.[46]

Red QueenEdit

Soon after, Nate Grey is accompanied again by Madelyne alive and well, but she ended up revealing herself as the Red Queen, a Jean Grey from Earth-9575, an alternate reality where she becomes a creature of violence and unquenchable desire. She seems to have taken advantage of Madelyne's fragile state and replaced her in order to worm her way into Nate's head.[3][47] She also claims to be the one who had influenced Nate into latching into Madelyne's psychic energy remnants and gave it form,[48] but she's eventually killed when Nate creates a sun around her that burns her to death,[49] leaving the exact details of how she replaced Madelyne to be revealed, but obviously since the Red Queen showed that she could absorb the life forces of others to enhance her own power, she may had absorbed Madelyne's psionic body Nate Grey had created or at least severed her consciousness’ connection to it, since Cyclops and Cable would eventually encounter Madelyne within the telepathic astral plane, describing herself as now only a "ghost" and unable to return to the physical world.[50]

Some years later, the X-Men investigate an anti-mutant group calling itself the "Hellfire Cult", being led by Empath.[51] Empath is secretly being controlled and taking orders from a mysterious woman also calling herself the "Red Queen", who is particularly interested in learning about Cyclops' new lover Emma Frost. (Scott and Jean's marriage had fallen apart, and Grey then died during a mission soon afterward.) The X-Men take down the Cult and capture Empath, while the Red Queen slips away unseen.[52] She then psionically impersonates Frost and has virtual sex with Scott, without him realizing the deception. Afterward, the Red Queen travels to Madripoor where she recruits Chimera into a new group called the "Sisterhood of Mutants" and reveals herself to be Madelyne Pryor returned to the living somehow. Later during a concert of Dazzler's, Scott is surprised at the sight of Madelyne observing him from a distance before losing her amongst the crowd.[12]

With Martinique Jason (recruited before the Cult's exposure)[11] and Chimera accompanying her, Madelyne recruits Spiral and Lady Deathstrike into the Sisterhood as well.[53] Madelyne then recruits Martinique's half-sister, Lady Mastermind, who accepts membership on Madelyne's peculiar (and ironic) promise to bring back the half-sisters' late father, the original Mastermind. Carrying out Madelyne's orders, the Sisterhood retrieved the corpse of Revanche and performed an elaborate set of procedures on Revanche and a captured Psylocke, fully restoring the body and transferring Psylocke's mind into it.[54] Madelyne's true priority was to restore herself back into flesh-and-blood. In the time since the encounter in the astral plane, Pryor had eventually managed to manifest back in the physical world as an intangible entity of psionic energy and needed to find a body to inhabit that could contain her disembodied form and psionic powers. The experiment on Psylocke served as a test run for Pryor.[55]

The Sisterhood commences a surprise raid on the X-Men's base, quickly neutralizing several of the main X-members. Recovering from the initial attacks, the X-Men force the Sisterhood (now including a brainwashed Psylocke) to retreat. But the battle was only a distraction, as the real purpose was for Madelyne to locate Jean Grey's gravesite.[56] Madelyne's own body had been cremated after her suicide,[57] so Grey's seemed the only option available to her. At Jean's grave, Madelyne attempts to repeat the ritual with her corpse. However, Cyclops had correctly guessed Madelyne's goal and had arranged for Grey's body to be replaced with another, which Madelyne only learned after it was too late. The second she bound herself to the corpse, she discorporated as the decayed body could not contain her vast psionic energies.[13]

Avengers Vs. X-MenEdit

During the 2012 Avengers vs. X-Men storyline, Mister Sinister had created a group of six Madelyne Pryor clones in order to take the Phoenix Force energies from the Phoenix Five (consisting of the Phoenix Force-empowered Cyclops, Colossus, Emma Frost, Magik, and Namor). Unlike the original Madelyne, none of the six clones showed indications of having individual personalities or free will, but instead appeared to follow Sinister completely.[58] The Madelyne Pryor clones joined Sinister's other clone creations in fighting the Phoenix Five and managed to defeat each one.[59] They also were able to siphon some of the energy from the Phoenix Force, but they all were immediately killed by the entity itself.[60]

Lady Deathstrike's SisterhoodEdit

Lady Deathstrike, whose consciousness had taken possession of a Colombian girl named Ana Cortes, formed an all new Sisterhood initially composed of her, the mutant Typhoid Mary, and the exiled Asgardian Amora (the Enchantress).[61] The sentient bacteria Arkea possessed Lady Deathstrike's assistant Reiko and joined.[62] As Arkea feared being opposed by the X-Men, she wanted powerhouses with the Sisterhood, so she had Enchantress use her magicks to restore Selene and also planned to resurrect Madelyne Pryor. Ana Cortes managed to turn against Deathstrike, contact the X-Men and alert them of the Sisterhood's location, and then committed suicide in an attempt to prevent Arkea's plans.[63] Arkea was able to place Deathstrike's consciousness into Reiko also, and seeing an opportunity, spliced Jean Grey's DNA to Ana's body, making it a fully compatible host for Madelyne Pryor. Enchantress then used her magicks to retrieve Pryor's consciousness, place it into the body and revive Madelyne (in the process, seemingly reshaping Cortes' physical appearance into Pryor's), making her flesh-and-blood again for the first time since her own suicide. When the X-Men arrived and attacked, Madelyne fought and telepathically defeated the more experienced telepath Rachel Grey. Storm offered Madelyne and Selene a deal, essentially letting them go free as the X-Men were only after Arkea at the moment. As Madelyne and the other members of the Sisterhood didn't particularly care for Arkea, they deserted her, allowing all of the Arkea bacteria to be destroyed. Accompanied by Selene, Madelyne declared that she would create an all new Sisterhood.[14]

Dawn of XEdit

Madelyne is not seen in "the first wave" of villains that accepted Xavier's invitation to join him on Krakoa, however, she is referenced in Mister Sinister's Red Diamond, a gossip sheet which lists very cryptically Sinister's secrets. One of them is about Madelyne Pryor which indicates her legacy as the Goblin Queen is far from complete.[64] The secret reads as follow:

:Years ago, a deceased redheaded pretender made a pact with the devil. When she passed on, most believed that any secrets she had went with her to the grave. Won't everyone be surprised when they find out not only is this not true, but she left behind a whole lot more than secrets.

— Sinister Secret #3

In her Goblin Queen's attire, Madelyne has since reappeared at Mr. Sinister's old orphanage where she had captured and strung up in some sort of ritual the Marauders that were living there, apparently unaware that a team of mutants was sent by Mr. Sinister to destroy the abandoned clone farm that Sinister left under the orphanage.[65]

The team finds the Marauders, who seem a little zombified and eventually Madelyne comes out of the shadows to Havok's surprise. She seems a little too angry that no one cared about her return and commands the clones to attack Kwannon's team. In the fight, Havok's powers are being neutered by Prism until Madelyne, in her own words, decides it's time to reunite with her former lover and destroys the clone. She then uses her magic spells to remove his mouth and silence him, then takes off with him to somewhere else.[66] She then recaps her history up to Inferno to Alex. After cutting his own mouth so he could talk, Alex ask about the affair between himself and Madelyne and the impression he had that Madelyne was using him as a stand-in for his brother to try and recreate an imitation of her marriage. Madelyne eventually announces her great plan. Basically, she's so determined to be noticed and prove that she exists that she's going to unleash all of the cloned Marauders as an army of mutants who will invade Krakoa and kill everyone there. She also reveals to Alex she intends to kill him and send his head to Cyclops.[67] The team was able to ultimately thwart her plans and save Havok, but it came at a cost. The Marauders that Madelyne had turned into zombie-like creatures were killed by John Greycrow, but Madelyne herself was shot as well. As she seemingly dies, Madelyne restores Havok to his true appearance and tells him that she only wanted them to know that she was a real girl. Havok lashes out, using his powers to destroy the clone farm. When the team returned to Krakoa, the Quiet Council had to decide about resurrections. Cyclops himself tells Havok that while the Council decided to approve resurrection for the original Marauders, they decided not to resurrect Madelyne on the grounds that Madelyne being a clone goes against their protocols, simple as that. The decision infuriates and devastates Havok further, who screams at his brother that she was a real person, one who did in fact exist. What Havok doesn't known is that the Quiet Council could not decided whether Madelyne is a clone or her own person, so her resurrection remains undecided.[68]

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