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phlve · 8 months

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Socionics Quadras — Beta

Beta, or the ‘second’ quadra, includes EIE, LSI, SLE, and IEI.

According to the Reinin dichotomies, Beta Quadra is ‘Decisive,’ ‘Merry,’ and ‘Aristocratic.’

Dominant elements

The dominant IM elements of the Beta Quadra are Ti, Fe, Ni, Se. All Beta Quadra types have these elements in the Ego or Super-Id blocks and tend to promote or favor their use over subdued elements.

Ti blocked with Se

Beta quadra types prefer situations where the power structure and hierarchy is clearly defined according to consistent rules where ambiguities are minimized.

Beta quadra types are more confident analysing realistic characteristics of situations, people, and objects, rather than alternative and could-it-be scenarios.

Beta quadra types are inclined to attribute to a new acquaintance traits that they have previously observed in other individuals belonging to the same group as they see the new acquaintance as belonging to (Aristocracy).

Beta quadra types are inclined to look for general rules explaining people, politics, mechanisms and trends, rules that once defined can be applied generally, rather than go about things in a case-by-case way.

Beta quadra types are energized by competitive situations where analytical tactics are emphasized.

Fe blocked with Ni

Beta types tend to enjoy group activities where the whole group participates in generating a common emotional atmosphere, as in laughing at jokes, etc.

Beta types tend to feel energized in the presence of people who share their beliefs and express them with obvious enthusiasm and emotion.

Beta types tend to give more value to feelings when they are demonstrated with clear emotional expression, and tend to increase the level of their own emotional expression in order to get a reaction from other people.

Beta types tend to describe personal views of special meaning with “poetic” or “dramatic” expressions and language.

Beta types are often deeply concerned about social issues and the direction the world is heading. They believe that apathy is a significant cause of societal problems, and work to fight against it.

Subdued elements

The subdued IM elements of the Beta Quadra are Fi, Te, Si, Ne. These elements reflect aspects of reality which Beta Quadra types prefer to keep to themselves and not discuss openly.

Fi blocked with Ne

Beta types are not inclined to enjoy discussions of personal experiences when the focus is on a person’s own inner feelings, especially when described in a subdued way.

Beta types tend to be skeptical of another individual’s potential for personal growth in terms of abilities and character, and dislike being the subject of such a discussion by others about themselves.

Te blocked with Si

Beta types tend to look down on nuts-and-bolts, detailed work as a source of success, preferring to focus on “vision” and leadership.

Beta types don’t so much enjoy relaxed personal activities as they do competitive group activities.

Group behavior

Preference for larger groups where participation is “collective” rather than focused on individuals for any length of time, but with likely “domination” by more assertive individuals. This means that beta groups discuss topics that everyone could contribute to. Frequent unexplained inside jokes are considered impolite because they exclude other people. Jokes are loud and general, often about stereotypes. Betas attempt to draw others into the group activity: for example, in a situation where there are “group rituals” going on (as in drinking, dancing, etc), there is good-natured pressure on “outsiders” to also participate in them, with a sort of puzzled dismay if they prefer not to. They also try to draw attention to people who might otherwise feel left out - usually this is done with general jokes directed at individuals. In more subdued moments, discussion of ideas involving present trends and political implications, with strong views voiced. Personal experiences tend to be discussed from the point of view of their external impact rather than the individual’s own personal view of them.

When larger social events are organized by Betas (such as parties, receptions etc), they show an inclination to promote activities that will lead to the guests involved as a single group, such as games and shows; dislike for the “quieter” form of events where guests tend to quietly form smaller groups in more intimate atmospheres, which Betas tend to see as boring.

For Betas atmosphere is more important than specific activity or topic. Groups of betas spend time together to entertain each other. They exchange fun (and often loud) stories to feed the atmosphere, so that the group energy won’t run out. People talk fast and they often add comments to other people’s stories if they feel that the pace is slowing down. When someone starts to talk, he takes on the obligation to entertain for the duration of the monologue and, in a friendly group, other people only interrupt to try and help him keep control of the atmosphere.

Talking about personal matters in a group is not something that Betas generally do. It’s viewed almost as treachery when something that was told in a one-on-one conversation is retold in front of a group, or when someone criticizes another person’s traits in front of the group. Betas believe such things should be told in private and should not be used to embarrass or belittle a friend.

Betas also don’t like it when people tell long, slow stories. Betas try to be polite and listen to the story, and they will forgive you if it was boring for them, but if someone does it too often they might not be invited back. Betas restrict long-winded stories to one-on-one conversations. However, IEIs are more likely to adjust to the slower stories because they are very flexible conversationalists.

Romance styles

Beta romantic relationships tend to start from intense exchanges of emotions, either of a playful, aggressive sort, or of a more “tormented” sort based on personal images of special meaning, “romantic” in a 19th-century sense. The two sorts merge together to make Beta the quadra most inclined towards “romantic courtship” in the everyday sense of the term. A relationship is felt to be “lacking” if not accompanied by intense demonstrations of emotions. Romantic relationships are also held together by a sense of common goals and purpose, and of the other person as the best partner towards achieving them. Betas are the most intense of all quadras in terms of exchanges of emotional and sensual interplay.

Perception of other quadras

Alpha

Betas tend to regard Alpha types as pleasant company, fun and creative, but too goofy and present-oriented, lacking focus and ambition, needing to be led, and more concerned with refining the world of ideas and fun than the “real world”.

Usually a group which consists of members of both quadras gets along much better than Alpha-Beta interquadra pairs of people. In groups, symbol_e.gif starts to dominate and there is a lot of active laughter as the Betas tell loud stories, and the Alphas make goofy suggestions for entertainment. On individual level, the differences are more difficult to overcome because values are different.

Gamma

Betas tend to regard Gamma types as stand-offish and occasionally emotionally hostile, judgemental, and inclined to not seeing the “big picture” in political or work situations, a combination of political naivity and moral stiffness which may end up jeopardizing the Betas’ goals. Socially boring, “can’t take a joke”, vindictive. A group consisting of Betas and Gammas does not mix well. Betas try to make general jokes, but Gammas make extremely personal sharp jokes. Gammas like everyone to take care of their own needs and people are constantly moving and forming small groups but Betas want people to stay together. Gammas feel that Betas are trying to restrict their fun and Betas feel that Gammas are just trying to break the fun group. However, on a personal level Betas and Gammas often get along very well - they discuss politics, religion, nature, etc. They both see the general trends and they compare predictions of what will happen next. Betas view the general emotions motivating the events and Gammas view the objective facts so they might not agree but the conversations are intriguing nonetheless.

Delta

Betas tend to regard Delta types as noncommittal in their unwillingness to support goals decided in a group, lack of drive, and ethical self-righteousness. Rather than back group efforts that require vision and concentration of effort, Delta types prefer to just work on personal projects. Equally mixed groups of Betas and Deltas get along just fine. Nothing great, nothing horrible. Deltas tell their personal views, but they don’t feel comfortable enough to get too personal and Betas make general jokes to entertain others but don’t feel playful enough to make loud jokes that might offend Deltas. But when there’s a quadra dominance, things go bad very fast. The Beta group is too loud and impersonal for Deltas and the Delta group is too muted and personal for Betas. Betas want to express their views and opinions very openly, while Deltas want everyone to keep any possibly offensive views to themselves.

Source: Wikisocion

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windudemon · 1 year

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some socionics types as ai generated images

i'm very impressed by this midjourney thing i must say. what is it? a discord server where chat bot generate images for you when you use command. for example "/imagine octopus faced flying giraffe" anyhow, some of the results honestly surprised me! (but then again, i feed it the right keywords, ahem.)

alright INFJ/IEI first

i like the second and third the most here. in this one, keywords were "introverted patient smiling graceful mystical woman"... because of the keyword smile though, results are overly positive but let me be positive with infjs once, lol.

then ENFJ/EIE:

here, i like the 2nd and 4th the best. 1 could be estp and 3 could be infj.

now INTP/LII

these came out surrealistic for some reason but i like the 3rd and 4th anyways. keywords were "eccentric introverted curious indulgent cerebral woman"

ENFP/IEE:

i liked all of these. keywords were " quirky smiling empathetic energetic woman"

ISFJ/SEI:

keywords here were "amiable coquettish sweet introverted woman"

INFP/EII:

these came out perfect because as an infp expert i knew exactly what keywords to use: "delicate wholesome empathetic innocent noble magical woman".

and finally my own type ENTP! this was my first:

2nd and 3rd one here directly intp. 1st one seems esfp but 4th is not very far. keywords were "eccentric extraverted irreverent curious wisecrack indulgent woman" then i tried again:

DAMN SON! hahaha. i actually and realistically found the first pic very entp compatible. but the "irrational" keyword i added made things caricature-like. i guess entp ones didn't quite work out like others because i didn't add enough intellectualism based keywords and eccentric just made things introverted or something.

but yeah, that was fun!

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phlve · 4 months

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Sociotype Profiles — EIE

Ego

Leading Fe

EIEs are best characterised by the bright and vibrant emotional states they experience and emit to others. For these types, the meaning of life is to feel, not merely to feel content, but to feel intensely and passionately. For them, there is no place for apathy, a lack of care or an absence of feeling. EIEs need to communicate their emotions to others through authentic self-expression, raising the surrounding emotional state by drawing people's attention to how they feel. The mood expressed is often heightened, perhaps to the dramatic, with the intent that this be the clearest, least ambiguous sign of their own emotional state. For this reason, EIEs may dislike displays from others that they think are 'shallow' or 'fake', and even when acting themselves, may see the need to believe or become what they are expressing. With this comes the natural expectation that others will partake in the feeling, the mood growing to encompass all around them, whether joy, despair or rage. Often, EIEs assess their value through the impressions they have made on others, and may sometimes create an image or persona of themselves to project to the people around them, looking to have that persona validated by those around them.

Creative Ni

Emotionality for the EIE has an ascetic, otherworldly nature, often aiming at the sublime, unusual and profound to encourage action for goals in the long term. They may express themselves in tones of inevitability, with something always going to happen, and may frequently have insights or hunches which come true despite all the odds. Rather than show nice, happy emotions, the EIE normally wants a deeper, more profound and authentic message to be displayed to those around them. In the crafting of this message, or the construction of a certain persona, image or desirable lifestyle, the EIE may give a great deal of thought, and spend time in their imagination, planning how something will be received and whether it will lead to the effect they wish to bring about, whether it is something that can be maintained over time. EIEs may fervently desire to belong to some group or circle, but such a circle will often have to have a sense of exclusivity to it, where only those on some higher or more important path are bestowed access.

Super-Ego

Vulnerable Si

EIEs tend to possess a fundamental discontent with the world around them and a need to avoid things that seem mundane or trivial. EIEs want to live extraordinary lives with purpose and meaning, and will quickly feel depressed in carrying out the humdrum of daily maintenance. The emotions they like to synthesise are rarely comfortable or restricted to the pleasant, resulting in these types often having a certain instability. Their passions may have them take things to the extreme, causing some EIEs to suffer mentally or physically. Indeed, pain and the darkness are all part of emotional authenticity, and often such dramatic intensity can wear away at their temporal, physical shells. Furthermore, details and the little things can remain a constant thorn in the side of EIEs when creating the perfect persona for people to admire them through. Some EIEs may go to painful lengths to make themselves look like beautiful demigods. Others will reject aesthetic as shallow, setting a more unwashed example.

Role Te

The EIE is aware of the need to be competent and productive in their different tasks. They recognise that they need to show to others an ability to get things done properly and an awareness of the facts behind issues they are addressing. Because of this, EIEs can be productive organisers, with an ability to not just get people working together but to also make sure they are working effectively for any goal. However, EIEs prefer not to focus on just the facts for the sake of facts, knowing that they can be boring or unappealing to their potential audience. Instead, EIEs prefer to play on sentiment and convey not merely the informative information, but the emotion that gives people the drive to act and the will to bring about meaningful change in the world. EIEs tend to tire of dry facts and procedural steps, preferring not to have to continuously research into improving themselves and their methods. Instead, they desire clarity in an unambiguous framework or ideology, setting out a perfectly consistent order that needs no further improvement.

Super-Id

Mobilizing Se

Unstable in their energy levels, an EIE may cycle between periods of overactive, restless impatience and paralysing hesitancy or doubt. The emotions given off by an EIE may be pleasant if deemed appropriate, but more often, there is a harsher edge that seeks to inspire more intense emotions in other individuals. EIEs are willing to give out messages that may shock or anger people if that is the mood they feel will lead to greater passion in others. This can manifest in the belief that positive change is best brought out through rebellion or subversive action against an oppressor. When perceiving a threat, EIEs are usually able to defend themselves and their friends with short bursts of vehemence. However, while this may scare off some people, they cannot hold out against all threats, and may take on someone more formidable than they can handle. EIEs respect strength and aspire to be seen as strong and powerful, although they actually lack the single-minded determination of other types. As a result, they often try to look the part if they cannot be the part, dressing to impress and, when financially successful, trying to demonstrate their elevated status to others through displays of wealth. Occasionally, it can also make them perceive challenges to their ideology as threats to be responded to aggressively, often leading to overreactions in scenarios of conflict.

Suggestive Ti

EIEs tend to lack confidence in their reasoning, and so, when faced with an argument threatening their logic, they can often hype up the emotional rhetoric instead of properly addressing the points. The kaleidoscope of emotions and ideas in the EIE is hard to clearly express, often resulting in a sort of nonsensical 'mush'. While delivering rousing, thought-provoking messages to people, their actions may be inconsistent with their arguments, with some expressions seeming to contradict what was previously said. Furthermore, in their desire to meaningfully reach out to anyone and everyone, the consistency of their ideology, what is important and what is of lower priority, may be forgotten. In regard to order and chaos, the EIE represents a paradox. On one hand, the EIE loves their freedom and will not be subjected to the rules of another against their will. On the other hand, EIEs can be very appreciative of someone consistently and authoritatively stamping their structured priorities onto reality, bringing a much needed signal to the noise. Sometimes, the creation of different personae and identification with people's reactions to those personae can lead the EIE to have a poor awareness of who they really are. They can greatly appreciate a no-nonsense confrontation in impermeable logic to help iron out their identities and what they stand for in absolute, unquestionable clarity.

Ignoring Fi

Despite being largely carried by emotional investment, EIEs place a clear priority on the expression of the emotional states they are currently undergoing, with far less attention given to more stable, consistent attitudes towards people and things. When taken up by anger, the EIE will want to express this with unequivocal clarity against the person who angered them, even if this person may be a very close or dear friend. Similarly, they have little qualm being warm and magnanimous to strangers if that is the mood they want to convey. Frequently the dramatic emotions they experience are more important than the nature of the relationship they have with another. Rather than judge people as 'good' or 'bad', the EIE is far more interested in the euphoria they feel around people and being subjected to an overly dry or boring person can bring about as intense a negative reaction as if someone had drowned the cat. Although able to keep close relationships with others, EIEs are often more likely to characterise people in terms of circles of identity, rather than in terms of the particular individuals making up that circle.

Demonstrative Ne

Often, EIEs can be the zany generators of new ideas, concepts and perspectives. In many ways, they are seen as eclectic, creative visionaries bringing about novel changes in vogue, excitedly charging after the right opportunity if it presents itself. Able to explore a broad range of influences, they can then synthesise this into a singular enduring image to convey. They are likely to place themselves in environments of creative novelty, enjoying the forward-thinking quality of such an atmosphere and the potential for great change to come from it. However, any ideas or tangents that are not in line with their sense of greater purpose are clearly given as silly distractions, rather than something to seriously spend time on. EIEs demand that people are completely and enthusiastically united on a task and tend to not appreciate people leaving the general direction on their own explorations. When something is explained to them in a purely theoretical or speculative manner, they may be frustrated by its lack of straightforwardness, eschewing ambiguity in favour for absolute clarity.

Source: Wikisocion

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