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essycogany · 7 months
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Rare But Not So Rare Sonic Moments. Character Analysis.
Crying
A weird topic I’m more then happy to discuss.
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Mandate: “Sonic’s not allowed to get overly emotional.”
I’m starting to think the mandates do break in a few instances. This one specifically is something I’m quite interested in because this is probably one of the rarest emotions Sonic displays. Getting sad/emotional.
Hopefully this essay will be a positive outlook on the mandate.
(Despite being a discussion about negative emotions.)
Examples Of Sonic Getting Emotional
I might not include everything, but the examples I have knowledge of will be stated. If you have anymore examples, I’d love to see them.
SATAM: Sonic cried when he and the Freedomfighters had to leave his Uncle Chuck in Robotnik’s lab.
Archie: The times Sonic cried/teared up was when the weight of a situation got to him, when something tragic occurred and all hope was lost, or when he was filled with joy after those instances ended. Those moments like others, didn’t go too far. (For the most part)
Pretty sure he never out right sobbed.
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Underground: I think Sonic only cried when he was a little kid.
Correct me if I’m wrong.
X: In episode 52 Sonic allowed his tears to shed with his head turned away from us. He and Chris ran one last time before Sonic left through a portal to go home forever. It obviously crushed him even if we didn’t see his face.
Boom: Sonic cried/teared up in two episodes of the show. First when Tails was reminiscing about the Tornado and noticed Sonic wiping his eyes. Sonic replied, “What?” Then he, Knuckles, and Tails all cried when they thought the baby they took care of was gone. Also, in Archie when Stick’s rock friend broke or “Died,” everyone in team Boom morned it. Sonic included.
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IDW: Sonic shed tears in the Scrapnick Island Issue. Even if it was “Mecha Sonic’s” tears I’ll count it anyways because it’s a good loophole and it came out of Sonic’s eyes.
Movie 1: It’s implied he indeed cried during the baseball scene. The sources being a deleted scene and story-board of the film.
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Prime: This doesn’t really count, but Sonic teared up in the first episode when he was held captive by the Chaos Council and had light blasted in his eyes, when he was in darkness. Then Sonic actually cried in episode 7 when he ate a seadog. Either because he was home-sick or starving.
(In the last episode of season two it’s implied he might cry in the next episode. Especially with the shot of him looking on the verge of tears and then covered his eyes in the background of the last shot, but we’ll see.)
By the way. You can see the instant improvement from episode 1 to 7 of the tears animation. Just thought I’d say that.
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My Overall Thoughts
Hold on because this is going to be a long ride.
First thing I’d like to discuss is the mandate itself.
I personally don’t believe it means, “Sonic shouldn’t cry.”
(Which has been stated a bunch)
If that were the case, I don’t think this majority of moments (specifically the recent ones) would’ve happened. I think the mandate meant Sonic couldn’t and or shouldn’t go too far with his emotions. I don’t think the mandate existing makes any since, but I won’t get into that.
My point is, Sonic can cry, just not in an overly dramatized way unless it’s done for comedic purposes.
(I say that because of Sonic Boom and the 7th episode of Prime examples. Which are obviously not meant to be taken seriously)
My opinions on Sonic crying.
It’s not necessarily needed, but I don’t mind if it’s done well. I do believe Sonic shouldn’t go too far unless the situation does.
One Issue in Archie when Sonic’s entire life was basically ruined, is a good example. If you’re going to have such calamities happen to him, especially since he has zero ego or mask to hold onto, I think it’s a fair enough scenario for him to react as drastic as his misfortune.
But I believe if he were to cry in something like the Metal Virus. (Just for an example) it could be like how Espio teared up after Vector’s sacrifice.
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Crazy idea. Let’s talk about Shadow for a minute.
Shadow is one of the most stoic characters in the entire franchise. He barely smiles, gets excited, or displays any overly positive emotions. While Sonic rarely cries, gets angry, or shows any harsh negative emotions. Shadow and Sonic are opposites because of that.
Sonic’s overall a positive and outgoing guy who wants to keep moving forward. Whenever he has the time to worry, he runs. Faces his problems head on. Sonic only let’s a small amount of his true emotions out when helping someone else. In general Sonic’s a pretty optimistic character.
Shadow on the other hand is a reserved and serious guy. Who wants what’s best for the world too, but in a more calculated and planned out manner. But for some reason, in Sonic Adventure 2 after Amy encouraged Shadow to save the world, (Which reminded him of Maria’s real wish) He sheds a tear.
I repeat. Shadow is the most stoic character in the entire franchise. Who rarely shows his emotions. And yet he cries.
Why can’t Sonic? To be fair, Sonic usually doesn’t have time to think, let alone worry about how he feels. But if Shadow himself can have a short moment of releasing his emotional baggage, why can’t the blue blur?
Is Sonic even as happy as he let’s on?
I’d say he’s genuinely happy half of the time. Then the other half Sonic’s internalizing everything negative in him. Everyone knows Sonic’s overall upbeat, but we’ve seen plenty of times (In the Metal Virus specifically) when he’s thinking, or enduring the chaos around him, he doubts himself. Sonic has these insecurities and emotions he barely let’s anyone see.
Besides Issue #24
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Even in Sonic Prime while Sonic shows the most guilt, sincerity, anger, fear, and sadness in the show. He sometimes still puts on a front and acts like everything’s fine.
Sonic Unleashed I’m pretty sure was the first and only time we’ve seen him mope for a minute. All because Amy didn’t know who he was. So, he does have some level of insecurities lingering every once in a while.
Can Sonic crying even work?
How I interpret him crying is when he’s alone. Some people theorize in certain instances like SA2 and Unleashed with Shadow and Chip’s sacrifices, he cried a little. I’m fascinated by this idea. I believe it’s the most in character way to let him cry. Maybe even something like X when his face isn’t shown, but you know how he’s feeling.
Even if we do see Sonic’s face, him crying or tearing up could be shown without being over the top. Normalize it in a way that doesn’t fly off the handle. His expression could have a hint of frustration, anger, or exhaustion. Crying is normal and I don’t see Sonic crying as out of character because it’s been done plenty of times.
It’d be nice if it happened in order to make Sonic feel more believable and sympathetic. As long as the dude’s not on the floor whaling, I’m sure it can work.
Final Thoughts
There are other ways to show Sonic’s emotions. Again, crying doesn’t have to happen, but it does help the writing feel less unnecessarily limited of what kind of emotions can be displayed on this character.
Though there are benefits too. Like finding fun loopholes or small animated details like in IDW and Prime. Sonic not crying so much makes the times he does (or may do in the future) feel earned and impactful. The examples before prove it can be done without taking away what makes Sonic who he is. It just needs to be subtle, quiet, and quick. (Or humorous) Depends on what you think.
At the end of it all, Sonic’s a tough hedgehog. Him shedding a few tears won’t ever change that.
Stay Creative! 💜
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americassoldierboy · 2 months
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Ever Eggman needs an Agent Stone
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The fact Shadow and Eggman are somehow related is hilarious to me. Whether its through Maria by choice (making them cousins), through Gerald by choice, by creation, or by guardianship (making him Eggman's uncle). Like you spend all year fighting this annoying blue hedgehog and his friends only to show up at holiday dinner and have a black hedgehog judge you from the other side of the mashed potatoes. You're doing your normal terrorizing when all a sudden you find out your nemesis has managed to wrangle your uncle into publicly kicking your ass. Every year you send a birthday card to a artificial lifeform. You wake up in the hospital to see the Shadow the Hedgehog sitting in the plastic seats drinking horrible hospital coffee because technically he's your next-of-kin and was thus rudely interrupted from his nap by a call from the hospital asking him for your medical history
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cephalosaur · 7 months
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When I first watched this episode, I was under the impression that Sonic and Tails just lived together. Like, this is their house and they're roommates and brothers.
And then they weren't.
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kellterntempest · 5 months
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Sketch_ kiss on the first date????
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two soggy wet beasts born in cardboard boxes
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incorrectquoteslobby · 9 months
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Eggman: *sharpens knife* We've got ways of making people talk
Eggman: *cuts piece of cake*
Sonic: …Can I have some?
Eggman: Cake is for talkers
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roseydanes · 2 months
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Fail
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flurry-bace · 10 months
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Sonic: If I die, my funeral is going to be the biggest party ever and you’re all invited Shadow: If? Eggman: Great, the only party I’ve ever been invited to and they might not even die.
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geekgirles · 1 year
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So I haven't watched Velma, but I've heard enough things about it to think I have some kind of point in saying one of its many flaws is that the writers seem to belong to this group of people who think being "edgy" means turning beloved characters into unlikable assholes. And I don't know how to tell you that is not how this works. Hell, Shadow the Hedgehog is edgy as all fuck and according to Doctor Eggman breaking the fourth wall in Sonic Boom, he is the second most popular character of the entire canon. Just some food for thought.
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sminny-wew · 10 months
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I think Boom!Stobotnik would be kinda like Lord Boxman and Professor Venomous from O.K. K.O., like I can picture Stone being a respected high-ranking representative from an international villain league (I think he’d be a corrupt men-in-black sort of government agent in his part of the world so Sticks would despise him right out the gate) who visits the village to inspect the local evil genius who’s been practically spamming the league’s inbox with applications
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wonderinc-sonic · 7 months
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Eggman went to the Maleficent school of attending events without an invite. He will show up to gatherings of Sonic's friends big and small, for happy and sad occasions, expecting to be waited on but ready for a fight. He is slightly less likely to show up if he is actually invited, but it's marginal at best.
He is also pretty offended that Sonic doesn't extend him the same courtesy.
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[Masterpost]
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etaleah · 1 year
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The thing about being a Sonic fan is that you end up loving Eggman (especially Boom Eggman) for the same reason you love Team Rocket from Pokémon. He just never does anything THAT bad. At least, not irredeemably bad most of the time.
Eggman doesn’t kill people or animals. He doesn’t rape or sexually assault. He doesn’t even get violent half the time; he outsources that to his robots. Most of his crimes involve stealing stuff and causing property damage (the latter of which Sonic does a lot of too).
The very worst thing that a typical version of Eggman will do is maybe take you hostage. And even then, he’ll just tie you up and put you in a corner; he’s not gonna torture you or waterboard you for information or beat you into a coma. Hell, he might even have Orbot and Cubot cook you a meal. Eggman will straight-up treat his prisoners better than the actual US prison system and when a villain is that mild while also being funny, you can’t help liking him at least a little bit.
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patheticmenscuffle · 1 year
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Mike Wheeler (Stranger Things): "He's just so dumb and has no clue what hes doing, and first season he was the main protagonist but slowly hes gotten less relevant and more useless"
Dr. Eggman (Sonic): "absolute mess of a man. also has lines like 'this heat is more oppressive than my father' that never get elaborated on"
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Which Version Of Eggman Do You Think Is Extremely Attractive And Hot...?
just so ya know, my attraction for Doctor Deep, is that he is kinda funny, and he is bit of a cute idiot....also he is kinda cute.
though some forms of crushes can be less big at times, I'm still not interested in trying to get a boyfriend (even though I had bad luck with online boyfriends....and even with guys I knew in Real Life who didn't really return the feelings or noticed that I liked-liked them.) , when I'm able to and hopefully I wont have trouble making it like I was having trouble with it yesterday, I will make myself a Gray-Aroace Flag with the Fictoromantic with it...there can be different types of Aroaces ya know...I guess only some can understand why I would be both Gray-Aroace & Fictoromantic, even if there is the chance I might be...in love with someone, but they will have to respect my space, not touch me if I don't want to be touched, and no surprise hugs that might startle me.....anyway back to talking about this poll...
who knows if this will get enough votes before the week is up.
I still plan to make a poll that has to do with Transformers, Steven Universe and maybe a few extra worlds...
this would be my third poll, also yeah I know I'm being weird with this one as well, not sure if I can make more than one poll in one day or if I have to wait until the time limit of the poll is up...
I have no idea about the chances of Doctor Done-It getting votes on this poll, but I added him in anyway.
I guess I can see if I can make another poll on the same day as this, but I'm not sure if it is possible...guess I can see for myself, which it works it means both polls will have that 1 week time limit, I would make it 1 day but that might not be enough time for many who might end up seeing the polls too late.
if it turns out I will have to wait to make another poll until this one's time limit is up, and there is a winner...I guess I will have to wait.
I will still check to see if it is possible to post two polls on the same day, and if it is maybe I can do it everyone once in a while...
anyway hope some like this weird poll, and yeah I know of the chances some Sonic Fans may end up crushing on Eggman...
you can't hide it, stop being in the Crush On Eggman Closet...
anyway I will check to see if I can make another poll on the same day next, right after I post something else first before that...
anyway pick a Eggman and wait to see which one of them wins. :)
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