Crack fan theory: Webby and the Lords in Black’s mother is Chorn from Firebringer

my mother has officially seen all of nightmare time. she just asked me if i think firebringer takes place in hatchetfield and chorn was the start of hatchetfield being all “fucky”. I told her chorn doesn’t seem like they are from the black and white and her response was

“well maybe the duck lords are a spawn of the black and white. the true decendents of the lords in black”

i’m losing my fucking mind

my favorite part of Firebringer was when Chorn said “it’s Chornin’ time” and then Chorned all over the stage

CHORN CHORN YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE

I unironically love the song "I am Chorn" from Firebringer. Beautiful song.

I'm just saying...

i still cannot get over the fact that nick lang thought that the chorn plot twist was too predictable

it still catches me off guard every single time i watch firebringer

Behold me, I am here, to give to you my wisdom!

The truth I've held so dear I share now in this vision!!

Get Chorn'd

Why I think Chorn from Firebringer could legitimately be Webby and the Lords in Black’s mother:

Chorn is some sort of unspecified eldritch being, as evident when she sings “the face of man I’ve worn, disguising my true form” could that be an eldritch, godly form perhaps? She also says that she is “from which your world was born”, which is definitely the words of a god. She gives the humans knowledge to advance them as well as naming what fire is - helping them but also contributing to climate change, showing good and evil aspects of her character.

But how do Webby and the Lords tie into this? Well, Webby is described as a ‘Queen in White’, not THE Queen in White, A Queen in White, and Chorn wears white, so what if Chorn was the first Queen in White and this title was passed down to her daughter? Also, Chorn is super chaotic, what if that’s why the Lords in Black are so chaotic as well? Because their mother is the only role model they had?

Team Starkid has confirmed that the Lords in Black and Webby have parents, and there’s already a sort of connection to Trail To Oregon through the Watchers, so it isn’t completely crazy to think that Firebringer could play into the Hatchetfield canon.

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“The face of men I’ve worn, disguising my true form, behold me to give to you my wisdom!”

This hits me right in the transgender! It refers to “men” in the symbolic gender-neutral way. No spoilers but Firebringer is my favorite musical about queer cave people! Chorn is definitely a queer cave person! Lol!

absolutely obsessed with my Firebringer costumes

orla is chorn

One of my favorite pointless Starkid headcanons is that Chorn Firebringer and Reese NPMD are related