I love this show so much 😭 those beginning scenes with Team are so relatable. Our first experiences and initial reactions are so similar it was quite disorienting and really took me a while to process how I felt about it.
In episode 1, it seems like Team hasn’t watched porn before. He’s not got any experience in these matters at all it seems - he seems both surprised and embarrassed about his ‘reaction’ too. Has he even thought about it in depth before? Who knows what experiences or thoughts he’s had with (sexual) attraction to men too? It’s a lot of (assumed) firsts all in quick succession.
We know for a fact Team is a deeply anxious person and we see that again here in episode 2.
In the moment you acted upon desires but what now? It was with someone you come into contact with regularly - socially and “professionally”* - how are you supposed to face them now? What do you do? How are you supposed to act? What if you’ve ruined it? Is it a one night stand? Is it a big deal? Is it not a big deal? What even is a one night stand? How are you supposed to react to a one night stand? What’s expected of you now? Will it change things? If so, how? What do you do now?
I mean, am I also projecting my own past anxieties onto Team here? Maybe so. But I still feel like it’s probably pretty similar to his thought process.
*the swim team/club and university as a whole have both social and professional aspects and obligations to them
A thousand thoughts and worries and you’re not sure what you’re supposed to be doing - it’s so much more comforting and easier (at least it was for me, and Team seems to agree) to avoid it for now instead. I found it all so relatable.
I’m so thankful they included that bit about not feeling guilty. It’s your first time and you did it essentially on a whim. The anxiety sets in, and then the insecurity and vulnerability, feeling exposed which opens you up to self blame and self criticisms. All those anxieties could easily morph into the feeling that you’ve done something wrong. I know for a fact that they did for me. Pleasure that both parties consented to and enjoyed shouldn’t make you feel guilty. I struggled with that for a long time. It’s a great and necessary message to see promoted.
It’s not a bad situation, there’s just a difference in experience. You don’t have the foundation to know what it all means. We saw that difference, Team unsure of what steps to take or even what steps he should be taking and so chooses to avoid it completely vs Win who has experience, who has the foundation to understand what it means (for him, and also them), what he wants, and the steps he should take from now on.
It’s so comforting to see Win take the lead and make effort to check in on Team. To guide him to understand that what happened wasn’t bad, he doesn’t need to be anxious or defensive and things will be okay. That he liked what happened too. He doesn’t need to fear it, the future, nor the unknown. All of this is making Win more of a safe person for Team to rely on, he can learn to trust him. With him he can let down his anxieties. That communication 🙌
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My Thoughts as I Watched
Episodes 2 and 3 of Between Us.
in which your intrepid reporter files her article two weeks late
I actually watched them and wrote this two weeks ago, but didn't post it because I had vague plans to write more about them. But I want to catch up on the next two episodes, so any additional thoughts will wait for after that. The summary is: I continue to love the show, and it continues to make sense to me without seeing Until We Meet Again
Episode 2
- Ok, I think my initial prediction will be laughably wrong. It looks like so far Win is absolutely not trying to hide how he feels. Team though is. It's all very cute, I'm really into their dynamic. And they have CHEMISTRY, my goodness. I loved Team's reaction after Win left his room—his big sigh, his trying to hide his big smile even from himself.
- I just find Win so utterly charming. It makes the whole thing work; he might come across as a bit of a creep otherwise. I love his little smirk to Tul as he gets in the elevator.
- OH MY GOODNESS! Is there going to be a romance between Tul and Win's older brother?! - A gamer, internet stranger romance? I am so here for this. (Also Tul's actor has gotten even hotter as he's gotten older.)
- Ah, besides age gap we have a sprinkling of Forbidden Romance. Win is not supposed to be dating his juniors in the club. I dig it.
- Speaking of age gap (and perhaps this is because I've been watching Cutie Pie) hearing Team call Win Hia is very seductive. Especially that he's contouring to do it after Win asked for it in the heat of the moment. Whew. I cannot blame Win for being captivated by this boy.
- It does feel like this is going to be a very simple story—just two people fumbling their way toward falling in love—without a lot of plot happening around them. Interesting with all the reincarnation drama happening in the background. Since I like the characters and their actors, I like this simplicity.
- Also, now I can see why everyone was so frustrated that Even Sun was bad. These two are so good together.
- I love how much they talk during while making out. I love how conversation about consent and who they are to each other are made such a natural part of it, and also really hot. That "kiss me" !!! I also love how much they're into slamming each other into walls. These two can seriously convey desire and lust. It really feels like they want to fuck.
- I like how Team is worried about what he means to Win, and still figuring out what it means to desire someone, but he doesn't hold back sexually.
- I'm nervous that they will be discovered at some point; that no one will see us felt very foreshadow-y. And I really liked the questions that Team was asking - is either of us using each other, what happens if we break up - both because they're good questions and because it feels like something he would do. But it also felt a bit foreshadowing.
Episode 3
- Ooh, another side romance? That brings the total up to five romance pairs in this show (so far!). That is a lot to balance, I hope the script can manage it. And it's Fee from My Only 12%! (I had to look him up, he looked familiar but I couldn't figure out from where.)
- I saw the Wabi Sabi logo, and I realized there were several overlapping actors, but somehow it wasn't until now that I connected this was made by the same production company as My Only 12%. It makes sense, although the overall feeling of the show is different, a lot of the things I like productions wise are the same. They both feel like money was spent on making a professional product. And they both are good at making friend groups feel natural, which is not always the case. (And also why Sea looked familiar - he was Cake's university friend Auk in My Only 12%.
- Oooh that drunk/flashback scene. I will come back to that later.
- One thing I love is that I feel like I can trust Win not to try anything while Team is drunk because he was so careful to make sure that Team was sober enough to consent the first time. There are many drunken hook ups in BLs that I've loved (Love Mechanics, Big Dragon, in its own toxic way), but that thread of toxicity doesn't fit their dynamic, and it's such a relief to trust that the show won't go there.
- Team's actor plays drunkenness well. I love the way Win responds to it, switching between feeling he needs to be the stern mentor figure, annoyance, fond indulgence, and feeling desire, despite his best intentions.
- I feel vindicated in my initial snap judgements of their characters. (Well, and also this show did a good job introducing them.) Team literally calls Win "the cool one" and Team is becoming more and more chaotic now that the he's no longer on his beginning-of-the-school-year best behavior. (Also several people have affirmed to me that he is indeed a chaos monkey.)
- This flashback! I guess these two won't be all sex and awkward flirting after all, they will have their own angst and pain. It was hinted at in their breakfast date when Team was so shaken by the ordinary question of, "do you have siblings," but honestly I got distracted and forgot. I suspect this was something that was not known in UWMA, it's the kind of secret that wouldn't be shared about the side couple.
- Darling Win's response. I think I will write a separate list about what I like about this pair, because there are a lot of things.
- I love how Manow and Team are teasing Pharm about Dean. Seeing these hints does make me want to watch that series more now.
- Tul and Waan! I already love them. I assume they're brand new for Between Us; there's no reason that they would have been in Dean and Pharm's awareness. Tul has such a crush! The way he's smiling at his phone!
- I guess with the way UWMA opened I shouldn't be surprised by this traumatic memory of his brother drowning. But it's still hard to watch.
- Ok, but how are the dorms at the university so enormous! And singles! This can't be what any actual university dorms are like in Thailand, right? I lived in doubles half that size freshman year.
- I have a lot of thoughts comparing this, Love in the Air and Big Dragon all to each other. I'll save most of it for another post, but I'm intrigued by the different depictions of a dominant older character winning over a bratty younger character. I don't know if Win and Team are intended to be explicitly dom and sub, but the age gap, the power difference, Win's caretaking tendencies and Team's... whole thing (traumatized, anxious, pouty) have created that dynamic between them anyways. And I really like it here!
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Between us episode 2
WAHAHAH wahwahw hhhhhhhh
Okay so basically, within the first 10 minutes I liked this episode a bit more than episode 1. (Not to say that either of these episodes have blown me out of the water yet but was still good) Something I noticed about the show, at least right now, is that it is very “turn your brain off and just watch it”, as were most shows back in 2019, which I kinda like, especially coming out of the eclipse and kp, I don’t think I can do another show right now that requires me to think. But yes, my shallow thoughts, here we come!
1. I LOVE MANOW. Her character so far is so funny, and its nice to see her on screen and not just be an advert for makeup (I swear in uwma i had to skip so many manow scenes because they were basically ads for makeup which was so boring) BUT SHES ACTUALLY A PERSON NOW!! She actually seems like such a funny character so far! I do feel bad for her though for not getting cast as a character in the play... It was nice also to see Pruek remember these details about their previous conversations! Also, when Manow + team and pharm were sitting at the table and team mentioned that he knew that she talked to pruek and instead of being like “...omg no what do you mean” she straight up just blurted out everything that happened... Its nice to see her be happy about things :))))))
2. TEAM did NOT put up a fight at ALL when win was trying to get into his room. It was actually kinda pathetic how little he was trying to push him out. (I know that he is probably doing that on purpose because he likes him) But then win asked why team was so caught up over the fact that he just showed up at his apartment??? Im not gonna lie, no matter how much i like someone, if they just show up at my house, especially when they shouldnt technically know where i live, i would be pretty off put as well. But whatever lol... the fact that team kept calling win hia win and also the smile after win left was enough for me to know that he’s already past the point of just “curiosity”. At least in my opinion I think its possible that team has a little crush already on win :3
Also this is something I didn’t bring up last time because it is an actual interpretation of something that is happening and also I wasn’t sure how close to the book that the show was going to follow but after seeing episode 2, I’m pretty confident in bringing this point up
3. As @respectthepetty has said, win is blue, team is red... Notice something that team has that is blue, (besides literally everything)?
His tie. (yeah its blue, it looks navy to me though i guess it could look also kinda black?)
In the novel, no matter how many times manow and pharm help team, he can’t tie his tie for the life of him. It’s once he starts to trust win more, and win helps him tie it that he struggles with it less. You could see in the show already that he nearly forgot it (in the first episode i think) and in this episode it wasn’t tied properly once. I’m not one for making predictions because i hate being wrong but something is telling me that we are going to see teams tie being tied properly in a few episodes time when they begin to trust each other more and have a deeper emotional relationship.
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