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Armando is a really conflicting character because of how much of a coward he is. He can't give a straight step ahead, it's always half things. He had a thing for Betty before the Plan, but when he was confronted with actually having something with her, he freaked out and feigned a disgust that was never there before. He always took Betty out to fancy places for work, it wasn't uncommon to be seen in public with her, but as soon as it was with actual intent, he freaked out and acted embarrassed even though they could have very easily just said it was purely for business. He said he was going to be public with her as soon as the meeting was over, but when Marcela catches them hugging, he immeditely denies it even though at this point he has nothing else to lose. He could only ever be honest in solitude or in front of Betty. He always lacked the courage to face society and himself.
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This post is super long and idk who will read it but if there's anything I love to do on the internet its post aimlessly to no one. (anyway)
It gets said a lot that Betty was naïve in how she entered her relationship with Armando, but we fail to take into account how desperate Betty was to live her own life. From the beginning of her character arc she talks about needing a change.
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It starts with Roman's invitation, saying he has a guy for Betty but she needs to ask permission (at her 25 yrs of age). Don Hermes says no.
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Betty argues back. Don Hermes' excuse is 'you can't go out with strangers'. But Betty isn't really fighting about going out with some guy. Deep down she knows Roman and his neighborhood troublemaking annoying friends are up to no good. It's not about them. It's about her wanting something, asking for it and being denied.
The scene ends like this:
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He says the world is dangerous for women and she doesn't understand that. She claims that she can defend herself and he says the above. Betty runs off crying. Dona Julia goes after her and when she returns Don Hermes asks if she's calmed down. From that question alone, it seems as if this isn't the first time Betty has fought with her dad about the rules he imposes upon her. Nor is it the first time that Betty has ran out of a room crying bc she fought with him and lost.
This has happened before.
I don't want to assume that everyone feels the way I feel about Don Hermes, which is that he's annoying. (I'm using 'annoying' as a broad term to describe his overprotection and the traditional\patriarchal way he runs his household, fyi, I know its there. I see it. But I'm not going to delve in that direction).
But there's a reason he's annoying (overprotective). Everything he does for Betty is laced with good intentions, but those good intentions are a double edged sword. At this stage in the story he appears overprotective and suffocating. It's when Dona Julia is pleading with him to let Betty go out that we hear a mention about Miguel (whose original name was 'Juan Ramon' but gets changed to 'Miguel' later on)--a guy who Betty cared about but 'disappeared'.
Let's backtrack to Betty running out of the room when Don Hermes says no. She cries to her mother about how overprotective and controlling her dad is. It's one of the few times Betty is open with someone about how she feels about the way he treats her. We get brief information about how he decided her education, about how she was sent to catholic school, how she wasn't allowed to hang out with the other girls bc she was too young, that the only male friend she was allowed to have was Nicolas and it was bc they were 'practically raised together' (and bc they knew his mother).
She continues to say ‘how is a man going to see me as a normal woman if you keep me treating me like a child? When the only thing I do is stay locked away in this room with only books and stuffed animals?’ The Miguel Situation gets its first mention and its foreshadowed that it hurt Don Hermes and Dona Julia to see their daughter suffer, but Betty says that one bad experience shouldn’t be a reason why she stays that way the rest of her life (which is very brave of her to say considering we know later how afraid she is of letting herself fall deeper in love with Armando).
The last thing she says to Dona Julia is key,
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Betty's running theme is change. The eagerness of something to change. Either she needs to change or her dad needs to change. Something needs to change bc she knows she can't keep living the way she's living. She's desperate for something, anything to happen in her life. She goes on to say:
'Queira la major estudiante, la tuvo. La queria graduada con honores, especialiaziones, la tuvo. La queira trabajando en un gran empresa, la tiene trabajando en un a gran empresa. Yo ya les cumpli. Ahora quiero cumplir con mi vida.’
Again, it's not only about going out with some guy. It's about Betty living her own life now that she's done all the things that have been asked of her. From Betty's pov, she's played by the rules, so at what point is she free to do what she wants?
She is the quintessential good daughter, quintessential good student, and later on the quintessential loyal employee that becomes the quintessential loyal clandestine girlfriend--bc those were the rules she was told to play by. But she's at a point in her life where that's not enough to sustain her.
After hearing this, Dona Julia goes back to Don Hermes to plead on behalf of her daughter, however she says something concerning:
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Dona Julia is afraid that if Don Hermes doesn't loosen his restrictions, that Betty will have a nervous breakdown and fall into a depression that will cause her to move out of the house.
Sidestepping the 'what if our daughter moves out' comment---
When Betty confides in Armando about her relationship with Miguel and how it ended, she doesn't call it 'depression'--however the way she describes it is very intune with what depression is.
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She didn't want to live, she cried many nights, she missed classes at university. She lost the motivation to do anything. This is more than just a 'break up'. It's a traumatic experience and its aftermath is a period of depression that Betty almost didn't survive. Her parents watched her go through this, helplessly and Betty claims it's why her dad protects her so much.
Here we see her showing that she understands Don Hermes and why he does what he does. However, when we see Betty's childhood flashbacks post letter, we see that Don Hermes has always been this way as a consequence of how the world treats his daughter. We see that Betty gets bullied, marginalized--no loving parent wants their child to suffer. So he isolates her from that world so that nothing bad can ever touch her. He tries to provide her with everything he can--books and stuffed animals. Things to fill a void with.
No one can blame him for wanting to protect his daughter, but by isolating her he inadvertently teaches Betty that the solution to when things get hard is to lock yourself away and internalize everything.
In Don Hermes' defense his child rearing is mostly focused on ethics and math. A parent does what they can. So it's no surprise that after the Miguel Incident, he became even more tightly reigned over Betty's life. But again, it does more harm than good.
After Betty's ghosted by Roman and his sketchy loser friend, she's disappointed and cries. Don Hermes has no idea how to comfort or understand a 25 year old woman as he does not see her as one. He assuages her like a father would a child. He says 'We'll go do something together as a family. We'll go see a movie on Friday, champ'. (Not a literal translation). Then he says to Dona Julia, 'If I hadn't given her permission to begin with, then she wouldn't be upset about being (plantada\ghosted)'. He has no problem being seen as the bad guy in Betty's eyes if it means she avoids getting hurt in a worse way.
A couple days later, Don Hermes insists on driving her to work instead of her walking to her bus stop bc he fears she'll run into Roman and his current loser friends.
Betty says to him:
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'Let me handle it' she says. Don Hermes doesn't look convinced. And then immediately Nicolas shows up at her door:
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Dona Julia is also looking out for Betty and off screen took it upon herself to have Nicolas walk her to the bus stop that morning. She knows Betty needs some kind independence but using Nicolas as an intermediary gives her reassurance.
Betty rejects both options and rushes out the door. Don Hermes, pulling a Dona Julia, takes Nicolas with him and follows Betty on her way to her stop just in case something happens. What they see is Betty doing what she said she would do--handle it.
When left to her own devices Betty can and will handle things on her own, but both her parents insist in their own ways, to keep her in a protective bubble.
As the series progresses we see Betty become friends with el curatel, more specifically Aura Maria. We can all recall when AM has Betty join her on a double date and said date doesn't end well for Betty. Her date is uninterested, rude--despite Betty's best efforts. She gets home late and her dad is not happy. He calls her a 'descarda' when he sees the car dropping her off and then claims she didn't ask permission, to which Betty says 'Well I called my mom and let her know bc you weren't home'. Which leads to this:
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Betty becomes the sole breadwinner of her household at some point but Don Hermes reminds her that that doesn't give her any right to decide what she can do with her free time or what time she can come home at. He then makes claims about AM and the men AM is associated with. Betty then defends her and the men (even tho they were lame):
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Betty's face here is trying to contain herself but you can tell she's upset. Especially bc it wasn't the best evening, so to be getting yelled at over it doesn't feel worth it. But also, you can see Betty has a fire in her eyes; quiet frustration and inner rebelliousness bc she has been reminded yet again, that she has no freedom despite having a job in a 'great company' and having all the graduation merits and on top of that, now financially supporting her family. It's not enough. And might never be enough.
Despite this, Betty reigns her anger in and goes back to being the quintessential good daughter:
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Don Hermes is not fully convinced but he appears to calm down after that.
A lighter altercation between them happens when he takes Betty home after a lanaziamento. He accuses her of taking too many liberties bc of the job that she has, criticizes her being out too much, criticizes her friends. His main worry is that she forgets her traditional values (Betty: Yo sigo siendo de las casa).
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As we know, all Betty does is work and get caught in whatever mess el curatel gets her into. Regardless, Don Hermes doesn't like it. He doesn't like the women Betty surrounds herself with and he doesn't like her work or its events:
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'The (fashion) world is too much, it's not for you'\'I know it's not my world, it's my job'.
I don't think Don Hermes is trying to be cruel when he says this, rather, I think he fears Betty will one day throw away the values and ethics he's taught her. (She kinda sorta does) Before she leaves for Cartagena, he insists she take a picture of him and Dona Julia, which gives weight to another inner fear of his; that Betty will forget her family and where she came from.
He stubbornly refuses to see (and accept) that Betty is an adult woman who wants to act like an adult woman. She does want to go out with her friends and dance and have the occasional drink. She does wants to date and meet someone, fall in love and in return show the love she's capable of giving.
She's desperate for the opportunity but believes it will never happen for her, so she decides to only dedicate herself to work and by doing so--and out of loneliness, she embraces her fantasies of (an) Armando that we know doesn't exist bc he's the only one that sees her value as a person and a professional. But when Mariana reads her the tarot cards---
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Key word here: Change. Both of your lives are going to change.
Betty has been seeking a change in her life. This feeds into her illusions but she doesn't truly start to believe anything could happen until Armando begins to start acting differently around her.
We know it's the plan taking its course but for Betty this is a dream come true. But even in the beginning she's cautious, she doesn't know if the kiss they shared was a mistake and would rather not mention it to him in order to continue keeping the work relationship they already have (and she's happy to maintain if it means to being in his life).
But because Armando seeks her out, it's difficult for her to resist despite the type of relationship he's offering her. In a similar vein to Armando post letter, when he mentally refuses to put the clues together about why she's acting differently--Betty doesn't put together the recent embargo with his sudden interest in her. Where Armando chooses to be blind; Betty's inner frustrations and illusions of having something in her life that's not just work and an over controlled life, speak louder.
There is naiveté in play. It's true that she doesn't know a lot about the world but it's at the result of the overprotectiveness of Don Hermes that Betty doesn't read the signs as clearly until she reads the letter and is cruelly brought down back to earth.
Betty thought that Armando was the change she had been yearning for and her desperation for that change, for that dream to come true---is why she accepts the relationship he's offering her. He's trusted her implicitly until then, so why would she doubt him now?
The Letter happens and Betty's first instinct, the first action she wants to take is to run away. She doesn't want to go back to work, but Catalina reminds her of her responsibilities, that she can't just jump ship when people like Armando are depending on her. Betty especially can't leave as her parents are also depending on her and to quit suddenly with no warning would raise suspicions.
TW: for brief mentions of ED.
(I talk briefly about Betty skipping meals. I don't think the character has an eating disorder per say, but if you gotten this far and this makes the reader uncomfortable, count 5 paragraphs down to skip).
Betty enters the Gaslighting Arc depressed and dead inside. She's no longer a student, she can't afford to take days off to lay comatose in her bed. She also can't let her parents find out that something like Miguel (only worse) has happened to her again.
Post letter on, the series makes a habit of showing Betty either skipping breakfast or skipping dinner. Usually this is just done to show that a character is in a rush and usually bears no importance.
But this happens multiple times. At El Meson she orders vodka and they never get dinner. At Le Noir, despite Nicolas saying they make great eggs, she has him order wine. The night of Armando's last lanzamiento, Armando knows she hasn't eaten and offers to bring her dinner which she rejects. And lastly her diary entry\ voice over from the night she buys the mercedes\rejects Armando's call:
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'Desvanezco' is to 'fade'\'vanish'. '...I am fading away before him while he only cares about his company' (rough translation).
Betty acknowledges here that she's not taking care of herself. In the first entry Post Letter she states that she doesn't have the strength to resuscitate herself again. She's metaphorically dead but the reality is that she's depressed and the only thing sustaining her during this period is her anger. (and alcohol). And once the Junta Directiva happens and everything is revealed, Betty in only left with the hurt.
(TW: End of ED mention)
Audience members get annoyed with Betty in the first half of the Cartagena Arc bc she continues to put herself down--Catalina is almost the audience insert with how put off she is with Betty's self deprecation.
It's not healthy or helpful for Betty to view herself this way and yes, it's a learned behavior that she needs to break desperately. But what the audience forgets is that Betty is tired. This is a woman that has tried to change things in her life and she always gets it wrong. Her first foray into love is a failure bc he used her, her attempts at dating are another failure, when she tries to change her look it's another failure; she put all her love and hope into Armando and then he betrays her.
She's been beaten down so much by those attempts, on top of society's view of her--that of course once in Cartagena she immediately feels out of place. Of course her first instinct, yet again, is to run back to the safe haven her dad has always provided for her.
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'This isn't my world' which harkens back to Don Hermes telling her a similar thing, '...That's not for you'. It's not helpful and fuels Betty's fight or flight. And she's always picking flight.
This is Betty's first time away from home. This is the first time she has ever been away from her parents. That's why the airport scene with them is so dramatic. She's never slept a night away that's not in her house. A 'niña de la casa' no more. This is the opportunity that she's been waiting for but she doesn't see that yet amid the heartbreak.
Catalina has to guide her and essentially push her out of her comfort zone; and challenge her way of thinking and seeing the world and herself. Betty's always wanted changes in her life but she never knew that in order to embrace new things into your life, you have to be open about it mentally. You can't hide and internalize everything in your entire life. It's damaging to oneself.
In the middle of her trip she tells Nicolas, "No. I can't leave. I'm living something very important here. They (the board) can wait'. Betty is finally putting herself first and putting her foot down. Had they insisted on her presence at the beginning of her trip, she would have gone back.
Betty didn't just need to get away from Armando, she needed to get away from her family, specifically her dad. The internal and external changes that Betty goes through in Cartagena would not have been possible in Bogota. Not with Don Hermes breathing down her neck and Dona Julia flustered in the background. It wouldn't have happened as he wouldn't have allowed it.
Betty needed to leave the protective bubble of her family to learn that she can put herself together, that she can handle it and come back stronger.
Don Hermes' goodbye at the airport consists of giving Catalina instructions of things Betty isn't allowed to do (she doesn't drink, she doesn't party). He, again, refuses to see her as an adult woman. But he is forced to when she comes back from Cartagena:
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He goes on to say, 'I feel like I'm lecturing another person, not my daughter'.
But that doesn't stop him as he lectures her into the night:
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This is inadvertently what he's taught her to do tho--run away from a situation bc it became hard.
However Betty defends herself and says she came back to deal with issue at hand and take responsibility for her part in it. She's not proud of what she did.
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'Don't think I did all of that and then went on vacation. I needed a change in my life'.
This is the change Betty truly needed, the one she's been waiting for and the one that sticks. She needed to learn to see the value in herself, realize that she's not the only one who has ever suffered and more importantly learning not to abandon herself as soon she gets hurt.
No one else was ever going to give her that. Not a relationship, not her family, not her friends. Those people (specifically her family) may love her but in certain instances their love and affection is a blind spot for them and can inadvertently hold her back bc of their insistence on protecting her from the world.
My personal feelings for Don Hermes aside, he loves his daughter and everything he does is well intentioned. He's not necessarily a bad person or bad father, but his over protection is suffocating and his refusal to see that his daughter is no longer a child plays a part in Betty's arc about wanting people to see her as she is--A person that is smart and capable and deserving of respect.
He plays a big part in why Betty does what she does, her inner rebelliousness, her frustrations come from the restrictions he imposes on her. He's not wrong about certain things but he's not 100% right about how he goes about them when it comes to Betty.
As a husband...well.
Anyway.
Betty becomes more independent Post Cartagena and her dad kind of slowly accepts it, especially when it's said in passing that she as a midnight curfew. He's still annoying, but that is simply his character trait.
If you made it this far, thank you. There is no prize except for the inner satisfaction of finishing this post.
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Armando Mendoza: A Brief Analysis
Hey, how are you? It's been a while. This will be a lil update so if you want you can skip down to the [GREEN] to start with the post :)
It's been a hectic few months. I finally decided to stop setting it aside and get real about my writing and begun the tedious task of editing the final draft of my original manuscript. I'm a perfectionist(Although if we're considering my posts about YSBLF as an example of that, than you wouldn't expect it lol. I suppose that's what I get for writing post when I haven't had a lick of sleep and don't stop to take breaks while writing the posts and then, half brain dead, I sit down to "edit" the grammar). When it comes to something that truly means a lot to me I do not feel satisfied until it has reached my exact expectations. I've made a few updates on my writing and how it's been going. There's some exciting development on it but I want to wait a little more to be able to fully talk about it and share the news with y'all.
That being said; I still have not continued watching YSBLF since the last time I did a post about the show, y'know, life and all but without further ado, here is the post :)
Armando Mendoza: An Objective and A Not So Deep Dive
Now that I've had some time and space away from the show, I can look at the characters in a more objective manner. I've been considering a lot of things regarding them and I feel like this post might come right out of left field —seeing how I normally seem to "defend" Armando, or some might assume I do— and this post will most likely not do that. In reality, it won't. It'll rightfully so call him out.
See, the stark difference between Marcela and Armando, not personality wise, but writing wise, is that Marcela doesn't really have a backstory. Her past is pretty blurry and the very few clear images we get of it always paint her to be the exact same person. However with Armando his past, while also not clear, is more visible and a little bit more precise than hers. In the post I made for Marcela I wasn't as empathetic as I should have been.
Marcela's past is basically unknown and the very little information we do get doesn't paint her in the best of lights. However, that doesn't mean that she deserved or that what Armando was doing to her was okay. I should have said that in her post. I placed a lot of emphasis on the fact that while Marcela had a right to feel what she did, she didn't have a right to act the way she was. Feelings are valid, actions are not.
Well same goes for Armando.
Armando could have been dating a helicopter as a girlfriend, someone who was possessive and controlling of him, but that doesn't justify nor excuse his horrible behavior towards her. While yes, one could assume that his cheating had to do with his lack of control with life, it still doesn't justify or excuse it. Nothing, ever, justifies cheating.
As I said in the Marcela post: This isn't about her so I won't be explaining her reasoning, her behavior, her actions, or anything of those sorts, therefore, don't take it as me excusing her bad behavior. It's simply being mentioned.
With modern times come modern solutions. Nowadays it's very easy to be able to pick up your phone and google something, read a self-help book, find the root of your childhood trauma and even a therapist. Child development isn't easy to understand to the naked eye and you have to have years of experience on the subject to fully understand how point A gets to point B. I'm no expert of it, just done some basic research on certain topics of childhood trauma and such so while I might have some form of understanding, it's not an exactitude on the subject.
We can estimate that Armando had emotionally absent parents, witnesses how his parents turned their backs on his sister for falling in love with a poor man and the way the elite society they're a part of was about the whole subject. How do we draw to this conclusion?
His father doesn't even know what he went to college for or what he got his degree on. His mother coddles him, only when he acts to her standards, enables a horrible relationship that does not benefit neither her biological son or her basically-adopted daughter. Quite the contrary the show does a good job at showing the drastic parallels of Betty's relationship with her parents compared to Armando and his parents. Consider the fact that any time Armando is on screen with his parents they only talk about two things: His relationship with Marcela and the company.
They don't sound like the warmest of parents do they?
I talk a lot about being a writer and how knowing your characters IS one of the most crucial and important parts of developing your story. I mention this because when you write characters, fleshed out ones, you have at the very least an understanding of their past. Not an exact one, but an understanding in order to have them say the things they do and act the way they do.
Roberto was always cold towards Armando, from the very start. He clearly showed signs that he didn't very much care for him. He cared more about the company, his wife, Daniel, Marcela, Beatriz, and then, at the very end, Armando. With obvious reasons we understand why Roberto didn't trust Armando. It's always been told that he's always been a player, doesn't commit, and is immature, plus with the devil on his shoulder he calls a best friend, Armando isn't the most trustworthy.
Yet, that does not excuse Roberto's lousy father role in his son's life. Children need strong(by that I mean emotionally, physically, mentally, and spiritually present) male role models in their lives, especially father figures. I've said it before that it could be a possibility that Armando's childhood was very much with an emotionally distant father. This creates the perfect breeding ground for a child to constantly feel like they must excel in every part of their lives(perfectionism), have an anxious attitude, a fear of losing the love of their loved ones if they aren't excelling(low self-esteem), and other difficulties. Basically this ball of fear, resentment, anger, perfectionism, and anxiousness(being avoidant) . These issues on their own bring their separate problems that mixed together make for an unlikeable person. I don't know about you, but this sounds a lot like Armando.
Of course there's people who grew up with emotionally unavailable parents and grew up to be fully companionate, kind, loving, and wonderful people. That's the tricky thing about trauma, not one size fits all. Just because two people grew up the same doesn't mean they'll deal with it the same way.
Emotionally absent parents equal physically absent parents when it comes to their children's development.
His mother was the same, though, unlike Roberto, Margarita did love Armando and was present but very conditional with her love. You can have examples of this when Armando and Marcela would be fighting. She always took Marcela's side and pressured Armando to continue the relationship. She also guilted Marcela into staying with Armando. She was never there to comfort her son when he was at his lowest or even before. She was just only ever present in his life and made an effort to talk to him when it came to his engagement to Marcela. Plus, the whole causing Camila to divorce her husband and move to a different country fiasco.
Armando did a fine job of taking after his parents, as he is a perfect reflection of them.
There's one thing that Armando said that has ran laps around my brain for a while now; "I know I did things wrong, damnit I always do!" outside of el Meson.
He's aware of the things he does, even if it's at the heat of the moment, Armando is a self-aware jester, who never cared enough to change until he lost everything.
This change, while outside forces moved him to change, were not the reason why he changed. That's another message that is lost with this show.
Armando didn't change because he fell in love with Betty. Armando only learned to be brave enough to be the person he always aspired to be, because he fell in love. Doesn't matter who he fell in love with, he simply did. The love he received from Betty only taught him to be brave enough to love the same.
The same way Betty was naïve to how depraved any man can be, whether educated or not, rich, poor, or from a "high" society or lower class, Armando too was naïve to what was actually good and bad because he never really had parents that cared enough to teach him. Now this in no way frees Armando from accountability. Lets not forget that the whole point of his personality at the beginning of the story is that he sucks, and is a horrible man.
[TAKE A BREAK IF YOU NEED ONE.]
Sex addiction is a serious addiction. As I've mentioned before, in one of my earliest posts, that Armando shows to have signs of it but I'm no expert so I wouldn't say he does. For example, his affairs often cause issues in his relationship, his professional life, and for himself. While he's aware of all the risk that these affairs cause in his life, he still part takes in them! These are all signs that he has an addiction. However, I don't think that was the intent behind this part of his personality when he was being written, simply there to show how he was a Casanova of sorts.
These are all things I've already talked about in different posts but I wanted to dive a little bit deeper here in case some people haven't read those.
Let's get to the real juicy stuff now.
Armando's horrible, terrible, abusive, treatment of women.
Yeah Armando defended Aura, he wasn't a misogynist, and he didn't abuse his position of power nor assaulted any women(not talking about the constant harassment of Betty after she found the letter yet). Still, Armando was abusive.
He constantly manipulated women into believing he was serious about them just to use them, he gaslit —not only Marcela but all his side chicks— people in order to control a situation, and at times even got physical. Let's not forget the hair pulling, choking, and dragging of Karla, Marce, and Larson. Let's not forget Betty! While he never hit them, the way he acted, was not okay!
Armando was aggressive, he was controlling, and he was manipulative. God, he was awful!
There's no excuse or even a justification for him in this part.
While you can argue that his intentions weren't to harm those girls, he still did it. The moment they didn't behave to his standards, he removed his "love"(infatuation) from them. Does that sound similar to a pattern? like someone else? (Margarita).
However Marcela for this instance was a victim of his. His constant cheating made her so controlling, resentful, and bitter.
A cycle starts somewhere. Whether it be Marce being possessive from the get go of their relationship or Armando cheating first, somewhere the cycle began.
One thing I want to make clear is that both Marcela and Armando were abusive and victims of each other.
From the start of the novela Armando isn't a good person. He's horrible. However, he was meant to be charismatic, which would cause people to over-look those red flags.
There's a lot of sides to Armando's character and that's what makes him complex.
There's obvious reason as to why Armando, in a sense, has some redeeming qualities compared to the people he's surrounded by. You know, he feels remorse for the way he acts, especially towards Marce and Betty. He feels the pressure of not letting his parents down and the responsibility of keeping people employed. However, even if it's remorse, the problem always lays in the fact that he doesn't truly change.
In this half of the post I'm focusing more on his relationship with Marcela.
I've talked about reactionary abuse, toxic relationships, abusive tactics, and patterns in all of my posts regarding Armando and Marcela. I've explained in a simplified way and yet I feel like some people either reject the idea or only want to blame one party.
What makes Marcela and Armando's relationship toxic and not D.A. is that they both enable each other and their bad habits. See, even if Armando were the one that started the conflicts, Marcela also acts out abusively. Basically they up one another in any fight. As if saying "Oh so you're going to threaten to leave? Fine! Then I'll ruin your life! If you leave me it would be like losing my parents all over again." while the other responds with "Marrying you is simply a favor to you! If you speak up about this than the wedding is off!" get the idea?
Marcela enables Armando by acting out in her rage, further pushing him to act out in his cheating and gaslighting. Armando enables Marcela by his cheating and gaslighting. They both feed the cycle and reject any accountability for their actions.
What makes this drastically different in what a typical D.A situation in where the abused reacts abusive(aka mirrors their abuser) is that they BOTH switch sides. One moment Armando is the abuser, the one with the upper hand in the relationship and then, the next, Marcela is the one that is being abusive and in control. Often times they bounce off each other. It's not Armando constantly and only being the Abuser with Marcela mirroring him. They BOTH DO THIS.
However, at the very least, Armando at the end of the series took accountability and broke the cycle.
When you write two explosive and complex characters meant to be together you have to separate them from each other. By this I mean that Marcela is her own person away from Armando, just like Armando is his own person away from Marcela. Together, however, they are a volcanic eruption. While, for Marcela, this can translate to just being passionate and intense, for Armando it can be an absolute tragedy that must continue in order to keep every party of people in his life "happy" while in the end, at the very least, he has his affairs to give him something.
Together Armando and Marcela are a horrible duo because all they do is cause harm to one another. That's what makes their relationship toxic, not one sided abuse.
One can argue that the ONLY reason Marcela acted this way was because of Armando, meaning, if you remove the cause of the problem, the issue would be resolved, right?
Not entirely as we're often shown and told that Marcela is this way with everyone. She keeps up with public appearances for the sake of their elite society but she treats people outside of her economic class poorly, en fin she treats anyone that isn't to her standards poorly and inhumanly. What does this tell us? That she on her own is toxic and abusive so even if she were in a healthy relationship, her prejudice and expectations of things causes her to be this way.
Armando was a cause of the problems in the relationship! That's where the tricky part and what makes them complex, is.
We know that Armando and Marcela were basically forced to be together, or groomed. From a young age all they've heard is how they must be together to unite the families, how her dead parents wanted that more than anything. That's placing a lot of pressure on two people.
However, even if this were the case(which it is) Armando's go about and treatment of Marcela was not okay. For the sake of this post let's say that Armando is the reason Marcela is the way she is(meaning we ignore her personality all together). He caused her to be possessive, controlling, toxic, and cold. Marcela was once a kind and sweet person who did nothing but show devotion and adoration for him, and Armando's constant cheating and lying pushed her to be this way.
Armando could have handled it a lot better. If he felt obligated to be with Marcela from the get go, he could have at the very least, like the very minimum treated her as a human being, and not cheated. That's the very least she deserved.
Obviously, we don't know how the start of their relationship was like. All we know is that when they got engaged that he made a promise to Marcela to be faithful and that Marcela knew about the affairs. We know that Armando and Marcela at least had somewhat of a "happy" relationship, despite the affairs and fights they'd get into. (Which this on it's own establishes that Marcela was fully aware of Armando's unfaithfulness before their engagement, that and his promises to be faithful show us that it's been a problem for years.)
Let's consider this; If Armando fell for Betty when she was ugly SIMPLY because of the adoration and devotion she had for him, why didn't he do that with Marcela at the start?
Had she held this devotion and adoration for Armando from the start it would imply that Armando would have fallen for her, same way he did with Betty, and therefore Marcela would have never turned out to be the way she did, right?
Let's be honest here. That's the sole reason why Armando even began to have some sort of confused emotions towards Betty. It made him feel good, boosted his pride and ego, and tide with the fact he trusted her, he liked Betty. So if Marcela would have been the same way at the start, don't you think Armando would have felt the same? Therefore he wouldn't had cheated on Marcela?
Again, that sounds like I'm solely blaming Marcela for the dissolvement of their relationship but I'm not.
Armando is part/responsible for Marcela's possessiveness in their relationship and there's no excuse for it.
What is cheating and why do people cheat?
Cheating can range from emotional intimacy with another person that isn't your partner to physical. The physical can range from simple hand holding to full blown intercourse.
(source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-do-people-in-relationships-cheat/#:~:text=The%20participants%20admitted%20to%20cheating,desire%2C%20and%20situation%20or%20circumstance.)
In the article linked as a source it mentions that most partners cheat due to a lack of validation, love, or due to neglect in their relationship. What does this tell us?
While cheating is not a valid response to whatever is a lack in a relationship, there's always a valid reason the person feels the way they do. Let me say that again. Cheating is not valid, but the emotions of the person who is cheating, are. Cheating is not valid, but emotions are. What does this mean? (Unless we're talking about a narcissistic abuser. In that case, no. They are not valid) This is overall just a an idea of why cheating occurs in otherwise "healthy" relationships.
If you feel like your relationship lacks validation, love, neglectful, abusive, or there's no spark or desire: LEAVE or go to couple's therapy and work on it with your partner(EXCEPT FOR THE ABUSIVE ONE. LEAVE! LEAVE! LEAVE! LEAVE! There is help for you.).
Emotions are valid, actions are not. A person's feelings are valid but that does not excuse nor justify cheating.
While Armando's cheating was a huge reason why they had fights and arguments, there had to be a reason why he cheated in the first place and while his emotions were valid, his actions were not.
His cheating could have very well begun at the start of the relationship feeling as if he had no real control over his life because of his parents persistent push for him to be with Marcela, which means it had nothing to with Marcela, everything to do with his parents, and ultimately this caused Marcela to be so possessive. Or it could have simply been Marcela who was like that from the start because she too had to deal with the ever guilting of Margarita's "this is what your parents always wanted, for you two to be together and unite the families." In all honesty the real villain of this show is Margarita.
Yes, their relationship was a paradox of sorts. If they broke up, Armando would lose the presidency, the company would dissolve, his parents would hate him, and he'd be a failure. Marcela wouldn't have really lost anything except Armando.
We can go with the 'could have' and 'should have' or 'what if's', but at the end of the day all we've got is what is actually canon in the show and not just speculation.
A few weeks ago I saw this video on my IG feed of FG talking about the ending of YSBLF. He said he didn't give them their happily ever after, since Armando was Betty's executioner(verdugo).
If the writer himself is saying that Armando wasn't all that amazing, I suppose that means he wasn't.
Yes, Armando went through a redemption arc but even then, Armando wasn't the best person. He was simply a better version of himself. He learned to be honest, to view people as his equals, women as humans and not properties, and to be selfless and caring, that's a huge difference from the Armando from the beginning but Armando was still neurotic. He was still a control freak, and was prone to his anger outburst.
However, this is realistic! Armando didn't change to be the perfect man that was deserving of Betty. He came to be real. He had his traumas and he was healing from them. The love of Betty didn't fix him, contrary, when she stopped showing a pure love towards him, osea, removed her love from him, Armando had no other choice but to LEARN to love properly. In order to do that, he needed to revaluate himself, his goals, his life, and what had pushed him to such a low point in his life and the ironic thing is that Armando's low point wasn't him drunk and suicidal at the bar that night. Armando's low point was the moment he agreed to manipulate Betty in order to retain her devotion and the company.
The downfall of Armando began the moment the novela started. It was a slow trickling drip from the throne he believed he deserved for simply existing and just as that, so was Marcela's.
Unlike with Betty, who was basically seduced to be bad, Armando and Marcela's downfall began from the very beginning.
So many people dismiss the abysmal abuse that was plain in the novela when it's the women acting out this way but are quick to crucify any male who acts the same way.
Now, I'm not saying Armando was only a victim of circumstance because that's not true. If I believed anyone was a victim to circumstance I'd say it was Marcela or Betty.
Why?
Because Armando, with chest puffed in pride, cleared headed, and sober CHOSE to manipulate these women. That's the abhorrent part of his character. That above all he always wanted to save his own skin and while his feelings were complex as to why, at the very end of it, he didn't want to deal with the repercussions.
While Armando wanted to be good, to prove he could be good, to himself, Marcela, and his parents, there lacked a true conviction in him. He felt like he needed to be good in order to have his parents love and approval and one of those things was that he also marry Marcela but he didn't feel inspired to be good.
There's a difference between knowing what's good, wanting to do good, and feeling inspired to be good. See, with inspiration comes motivation and with motivation comes action.
Writing complex characters means that good motives are acted out wrong. It means that bad motives are disguised as good acts. Not fully good, not entirely evil.
When you get to know your characters the rest of the story comes to you naturally and by that I mean that the actions they take, the words they speak, how they are, kind of rolls out of you naturally. You need to know your characters before you sit down to write your story.
Armando's actions are horrible. He was abusive but he was also a victim and I know someone is probably wondering "well why aren't you talking about the way he was towards Betty when she found the letter?" and that's simple.
Armando perfectly mirrored Marcela and Betty perfectly mirrored Armando.
I mentioned this in the Marcela Valencia post but I'll try and talk a bit more about it here.
Armando's constant abuse and violation of Betty is an exact mirroring of Marcela, however, he still chose to act this way knowing that instead of drawing Betty closer to him, that he'd push her further away and while in moments of lucidness Armando attempted to resolve the issues he had with Betty in a calm manner, she wasn't on the same page.
Armando chased Betty all over the place, threw jealousy fits, and forced himself onto her. Marcela did the exact same to him.
However, here's the tricky part of it.
Betty.
Betty was the perfect mirror of Armando. She lied to him, manipulated him, and "cheated" on him. The same way he was towards Marcela.
Obviously this is a simplified version of it but it's the same thing at the end of the day.
Had Betty never acted this way, would Armando have treated her the way he had?
To a lesser degree, I do think so.
I think he would have manipulated her and that he would have thrown some jealousy fit here and there.
See the thing is that if Betty had never given him a taste of his own medicine Armando would have never changed. No matter how much he wanted to or how badly he was in love with Betty.
Armando, to his core, was a coward. That's what he was in the story. Due to this he resorted to manipulation and cheating.
While some of his actions were due to some sort of trauma or the fear of rejection, and came from a place of hurt and self-preservation, Armando still acted wrong.
At least at the end Armando took accountability for his actions and somewhat changed his ways. Was he deserving of getting the girl? Not entirely but was Betty deserving of getting Armando? Not entirely and see that's the problem with writing romance.
Often times the most important bit of the story is cut out because "people don't want to see the reconciliation, they just want to hear about it. "
From what I know, Betty never took accountability for the way she treated Armando after she found the letter and this I will later discuss whenever I get around to watching YSBLF and write a post about the episode but in simpler words: Betty chose to exact revenge on Armando and yes, her emotions were so valid! but her actions were not!
Betty treated Armando the exact same way Armando treated Marcela.
Lastly, I've said Armando is a complex character from the start and while that may be true, this complexity does not excuse his horrible behavior because complexities never do.
Well, I hope y'all enjoy this long over due post, and I apologize for the long hiatus on the YSBLF breakdown posts.
Also, again, sorry if there's any grammar mistakes, I'm working on it! Lol.
'Til next time :)
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tp2-byes · 2 years
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✧゜・。✧ These lovebirds...   ✧゜・。✧
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beckybloomwood · 1 month
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happy beatriz pinzon solano day to those who celebrate. also happy anniversary to her first time with armando and furbiversary.
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whentheynameyoujoy · 2 months
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I would like to take the Beatriz Pinzon Solano option in Speedrunning Healing, thx
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The Classic lovestory of Don Armando Mendoza and Beatriz 'Betty Pinzon Solano de Mendoza
The Classic lovestory of Don Armando Mendoza and Beatriz 'Betty Pinzon Solano de Mendoza " ECOMODA TELENOVELA"
Well before starting my comments on the Ecomoda Telenovela which is the second season of Yo Soy Betty La fae. I didn't know that there is a second season of this up until now i heared the news on having another season of Betty La fae 20 years after.
Well because of this announcement I rewatched again the series since the last time I watched i was only 9 or 10 years old back then.
It is refreshing to rewatched it after long years since it brings back my childhood feels the inner younger self my unleashed while watching Don Armando and Betty again.
Well another thing is while watching is reading some comments on the section of some those sympathize Marcela Valencia and i even read a comments towards Betty is a mistress the one who breaks the relationship of Marcela and Armando. Mind you guys in theDon start of the YSBLF foreshadowing of un happy relationship of Don Armando and Marcela was already there. Armando is a playful party goer executive and a womenizer who almost everyday dating or seeing different women. Marcela already knows it from the very beginning but instead doing something to break that cycle of Don Armando on being a womenizer, she just let it be and allow Armando to do those nasty things while in their in a relationship because what Marcela thinks that at the end of the day Armando will still come back to her she became comfortable with that set up. In short their relationship with eahc other did not make them mature nor become the best version of them. Also the relationship between Armando and Marcel is already toxic one of the reason why Don Armando fall out of love with Marcela.
Fast foward from the time Don Armando accidentally fall for game that he and Mario Calderon made for Betty and a lot of commotion happen that lead them separate ways for the meantime while healing. Don't you realize that climax of the story is an turn around time were both Don Armando and Betty change for being a best version of themselves.
Betty redeem herself esteem. She learn on how to dress well, make up in shor she learn to take good care of herself and finally able to have confidence for her self. While on the other hand Don Armando finally learn to be a man up o be brave enough to fixed himself and finally he stop being a womenizer after falling in love with Betty which did note happen while in relationship with Marcela. Thats the difference towards the love of Don Armando to Betty. Armando finally learn to grow and change to be a better man for Betty. Beacuse love is not selfish love will always make you a better person and i think thats the kind of love Betty and Don Armando have.
Fast foward again to the continuation of Don Armando and Betty's love story which is in Ecomoda series. To be honest i didn't know there is a book two of their lovestory until this moment were I binge watching it.
Ecomoda is the continuation of the merried life of Don Armando and Betty. It also tackles the people inside Ecomoda. I don't understand why this series is under rated when in fact the story is so well presented. On the previous book which is YSBLF its a hell of the mixed emotion struggle and hear breaks while Ecomoda is on a lighter genre which is is I think fits with the story very well. I so love on how they well written and present each of the character.
First one is Don Armando on being a changed man , a devoted husband to Betty and father to their unica hija Camila. Oh man that is the best thing they did to the character of Don Armando from being a womenizer he become the best version of himself a devoted and comitted Armando to the love of his life. Remember during the YSBLF he said that his dream is to become the president of ecomoda which later on change when he finally fall in love to Betty. Don Armando's character on Ecomoda really fits and best on the story line.
Meanwhile, Betty regain her confidence become the best version of herself. She become more empowered women while being a good wife to Don Armando and mother to Camila. But there are some comments I read that Betty's character become toxic towards Mario Calderon but hey don't you realize the trauma that it cause Betty its not that easy to forget those nasty things done to you by others that break it is not easy. Well some may say that Don Armando is part and the executor of the plan that Mario Calderon set up for Betty but hey did you already forget that Don Armando apologize and ask forgiveness to Betty infront of the Ecomoda employees don't you remember that Don Armando apologies ask forgiveness on YSBLF while on the other hand Mario Calderon did not do until his return on Ecomoda series he did not apologize after all so I thinks Betty's feeling towards to Mario Calderon on Ecomoda is stil valid since there is no reconcillation happen.
Well for me the plot and story of Ecomoda is just exactly fit and perfect you know why it taclkes and discuss the different backgroud of each supporting character which is not given on the previous series YSBLF which is only focuses on Betty, Don Armando, and Marcel Valencia. Meanwhile in Ecomoda series it gives the spotlight equally to the supporting cast that we already know and love during the YBLF. In Ecomoda telenovela it give us the background of every character. Remember Mario Calderon lines we are just like family.
Ecomoda telenovela also discuss the marriage life of Don Armando and Betty that despite of being busy working as top execuitive of the well known company they still manage to balance their work and life being a husband, wife and parent to Camila. The series tackles some struggle of married life of Don Armando and Betty that whenever they encounter issue they are not afraid to seat and talk regarding it. I think that is the difference of Don Armando's previous relationship. With Betty, Don Armando can talk everything they can discuss it even it may sometimes hurt them they are not afraid to face whatever cirumsantances they may encounter in life because they trust each other and that is maturity while in the previous relationship of Don Armando everything is like a command and afraid to face reality so that's why it did not work out. Anyway lets leave that lets focus on Don Armando and Betty's married life on Ecomoda and see how they manage to handle their relationship and shortcomings and choose to be committed and love each other.
For me Ecomoda series is just so good story that I don't know why it is so underrated.
Meanwhile I am so happy that 20 years after there will be continuation of Don Armando and Betty's love story. But por pabor please we do not want a Betty La fea new series that will discuss the regret of Betty marrying his former boss and will come up with a divorce dios mio dios mio Don Armando and Betty did not experience a hell of a ride being broken on them self on YSBLF just to end up with this kind of fiasco. What we wanted to see with this upcoming new chapter of Don Armando and Betty is on how they still manage their relationship and how they keep the love bunring and committed to each other 20 years of their marriage. We would like also to see on how they become parents to Camila on how Don Armando and Betty raise their only child despite being busy towards being a top executive of a company. We would like also to see in this new chapter of Betty La fea on how Don Armando is protective to Camila towards those who plan to court her. Becuase we all know on the Ecomoda series on how Don Armado is being too caring, protetive and so much love to Camila. Remember Camila is Don Armando's most beautiful thing.
For me us an avid fan of Don Armando and Betty's lovestory since then I wanted to preserve since we all know the challenges they encounter just to be together. Their journey towards their relationship and marriage is not that easy. I hope that the next chapter of Don Armando and Betty's love story will focuse more on them being a married for years and being a parent. Maybe they can also consider having another baby for Don Armando and Betty.
#YoSoyBettyLaFea #EcomodaTelenovela #BettyLafea #ArmandoMendoza #ArmandoandBetty
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word vomit for today: I've been listening to this playlist again
and of one my fave songs from it is Ricardo Arjon's La Mujer Que No Soñe because my God its lyrics are top-tier, it perfectly fits Armando's POV when he accepts that's he fallen in love with Betty.
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SING YSBLF AU v1
Jimmy Crystal - Armando Mendoza
Suki Lane-Beatriz Pinzon Solano
Linda Le Bon- Marcela Valencia
Ryan- Mario Calderon
Darius- Daniel Valencia
Judith- Patricia Fernandez
Jerry- Nicolas Mora
Nana Noodleman- Catalina Angel
Buster Moon- Michell Duanell
Klaus Kickenklober- Hugo Lombardi
Meena- Bertha
Nancy- Aura Maria
Ms Crawly- Ines "Inesita"
Rosita- Sofia
Ash- Sandra
Johnny- Mariana
Porsha - Jenny
Norman- Efrain
Mike- Freddy
This one gets across the same idea in Sing 2 where Porsha steals Rosita's part but it's a lot more complicated than that if you understand the implications of casting Norman as Efrain.
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It's so sad to see the depth of Betty's low self-esteem. She really believes she deserves nothing good, and that any little mistake she makes means that anything good she has she should give it up in compensation or because she never deserved it. It is so obvious since the beginning. She's convinced that she must be perfect in her work and values because otherwise she's worthless. She tries to quit Ecomoda three times before even starting the whole Terramoda thing because of mistakes she made, like consjdering taking the bribing, or even things that weren't her fault, like the damaged computer. She thinks that any little favor people do for her are an inmense burden on them, like when Armando took her home after literally making her work extra hours to go to Rag Tela's cocktail.
It is no wonder that she really at first can't believe that Armando fell for her, that although we know why it all started, she doesn't and has no reason to ssupect it, because honestly, it is not surprising at all. The emocional connection they had since early episodes show that Armando was gonna fall for her eventually. But poor Betty could have never seen it, even when the Tarot itself was telling her it WAS going to happen...
I just wanna hug my girlie so bad and buy her some hair care products because you can't fool me I know curls forced to be straight and massacred with a brush when i see them
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Beatriz Pinzon Solano: a e s t h e t i c
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Marcela Valencia Part A
In this post I will be discussing Marcela and her toxic/abusive traits. There will be a mention of Armando but since this isn't the post regarding his abusive tendencies and toxic behavior in that relationship I won't really be focusing on him. I am not brushing off his behavior or painting him to be the victim. For the sake of this post I want you to keep that in mind because I won't be focusing on him, rather Marcela.
From the start of the series Marcela is an antagonist, full stop. I'm not referring to the romantic element of the story we are given but just in general.
An antagonist is usually the character used to press all the right buttons on the protagonist for the sake of pushing them. In a way they are the worst traits of the protagonist at all times, however they're not all that terrible so they aren't the story's true villain. Short words: They are the opposer or rival of the story.
She antagonizes Armando a lot, but at what point does just pushing buttons turn into abuse?
Abuse:
treat (a person or an animal) with cruelty or violence, especially regularly or repeatedly.
"riders who abuse their horses should be prosecuted"
We are told Marcela Valencia is in love with Armando the entire time. Her actions are justified by the ideology that women who behave this way are just passionate and deeply in love so they defend their territory and lash out because they don't want to lose the man they love and above all, wounds caused by love are justified.
Except we are shown something differently.
Marcela judges people by their looks, she is snotty, spoiled, emotionally immature/stunt, and as many say a misogynist. She looks at every woman as a competition and solely blames women for the actions that man were involved in as well(for example when Aura Maria had a relationship with Mario while he was in a relationship with Patty. She was constantly throwing remarks at Aura Maria after that. Now, I personally believe that Aura Maria is just at fault as Mario. She learned that he was in a relationship with Patty and didn't end it, instead for the sake of her ego continued to sleep with him to get back at Patty. She did have fault for that but Mario did too for taking advantage of his power in the company and being a whore.). Marcela never holds men accountable for what they do. Men have desires, men blah blah blah.
When Armando cheats on her, she does throw a fit and gets angry at him but usually her anger is imploded on the poor stupid woman who slept with Armando.
This we are shown at the start of the Novela, literally in the first couple of episodes we are told and shown this. So it isn't uncommon when we see her behave this way.
However later on we are given scenes where the disagreement that Armando and her are having aren't related to infidelity. They relate to Patricia, Betty, business deals, and so on.
It's understandable that Marcela wants to be the priority in Armando's life; the issue here is that Marcela does nothing to gain that. She demands it automatically. She demands to be his priority in everything. From the start she begins to spy on Armando, constantly wanting to know his whereabouts. She calls him every time they aren't in the same building. She expects him to answer her calls, tell her what he's doing and who with. She feels like Armando is supposed to do this because she owns him.
Take into account that at the beginning of the series Marcela is stomach-able in the romantic element. Later her lust turns into possessiveness.
Where she no longer looks at Armando as her boyfriend but an object for her to have. She sees him as a trophy that makes her look good. Marcela Valencia, the woman who manages to get Armando Mendoza, a man desired by every woman who is a womanizer, to settle down to one woman? and that woman be her, Marcela Valencia.
The problem is that we're told she is the one that is in love in the relationship however she constantly dismisses Armando's feelings, finds every excuse to be a helicopter and overbearing in his life when she can clearly tell he doesn't want that.
Their relationship is toxic and dysfunctional. They are both at fault but in this post I really want to focus on Marcela's side and her role in it.
I've been thinking a lot about Marcela and how it must be to be in a relationship like hers. Now not to get too personal on her but I have been in toxic friendships. I know what it's like to have someone gaslight you, use silent treatments as a form of punishment to make you feel guilty for calling them out, and breaking down your self-esteem. You really believe that no one will ever care for you like they do and you become depended on them and their validation.
However I don't identify myself with Marcela at all. She doesn't have low self-esteem, which cancels out that Armando's cheating deeply affects her. Marcela knows she's beautiful and desired by other men(I could be mistaking YSBLF with LFMB in this specific regard but I recall an early episode where Patty and Marce are talking about guys and Patty tells her she's desired by other men) . She thinks she's better than Betty and all the other woman that Armando has slept with and blames those woman9Not that they're so hot that he succumbed to their beauty but that they're classless women who go after men that are in relationships and that because he's a man and a woman wants to do the sinful dance with for Armando's infidelity and Armando never tells her that she's ugly, undesirable, that no one else will love her etc etc. So why does she stay with him? Is it love?
Love isn't possessive, jealous, angry, hurtful, boastful, arrogant, or selfish.
She doesn't love him.
So why does she stay with him?
I already mentioned it. She views Armando as an object. A trophy of sorts that is good for her self-esteem and her image. So she takes his infidelities as just stupid flings but Armando wants to marry her so she's better than they are. Those women are just for a day or two but she's forever and that makes her a champion.
She is so stubborn that she won't let him leave. Armando essentially becomes a bird with its wings clipped and trapped in a cage for her own amusement.
Many people don't see that because to everyone else Marcela is the poor victim of Armando and his infidelities.
The episode I'm on right now shows us this dynamic. Marcela is upset and angry at Armando for his fling with Claudia(she knows it happened even though he denies it.) and they're arguing over it. They're walking in the hotel as Armando asks her if she wants them to be the main show of the event or for them to kill each other, if that's what she wants than perfect he'll oblige.
She then tells him that she asked for one head and he hasn't delivered it, that he had his fling in her company to which Armando replies "It's mine too."
"Yes it's yours too but I asked you for one head! and you haven't given it to me! You aren't going to be laughing at me! I won't allow it!" she waves her finger in his face.
"I'm not laughing at you" Armando's tone is defensive and in the background we see Cata and a guest nearing them and here's the thing that demonstrates why Marcela is the perfect example of an abuser behind closed doors.
Everyone expects and sees Armando yelling at her and telling her things but often it happens after Marcela has pushed his buttons(not saying that she didn't have a reason to be angry at him, she did) often times we see the switch between being the abuser to being the abused. While one is being abusive the other is being an reactionary abuser.
What is the difference between someone who is abusive and an reactionary abuser?
The abuser often times is the one with the upper hand and the one causing or inflicting pain on purpose while the reactionary is reacting to the abuse in an a way that is abusive.
For example here Marcela is demanding for him to do what she told him to do and that she won't permite for him to laugh at her. The day has been a bad one for Armando so he is tense and already in a bad mood as he talks to Marcela.
However Marcela wants things done her way, despite knowing that Armando's hands are tied with Claudia the model he had a fling with, and that Armando doesn't want to fire his assistant. She expects and demands for him to do what she told him to do and she won't let him get away with not doing it.
What does this mean? Enter the space of reading between the lines. Hearing a phrase like that and understanding the context is a very vital and important bit. Let's reverse the gender roles here for a bit. If a man told a woman "You aren't going to be laughing at me! I won't allow it!" while waving their finger in their face what would we think of that situation? We'd think they guy is being borderline abusive, wouldn't we? While yes Marcela has every right to be justified in her anger, the problem lies with how she behaves or reacts due to her anger. Feelings are always valid, actions not so much. Actions can be explained but not always justified and this is where Marcela's behavior is wrong. Here she shows that she has the upper hand and control over Armando's fate in totality.
In this moment as Armando now starts yelling at her as Cata and the guest near them, Armando is the abuser and Marcela is the abused as she stands there taking his yelling they then get interrupted by Cata and the guest and great each other. Marcela then throws a jab at him to poke him, he turns to look at her and shakes his head and tells her that wasn't funny.
Marcela turns to look at him and says "No? You don't think that it was funny that you were locked in your office with a model and had your assistant sneak her out?"
This now becomes a public humiliation of Armando as his intimacy is thrown out there for the public to consume and Marcela is the poor victim of Armando and his infidelity.
[EDIT: I find this scene interesting because you'd assume Marcela wouldn't want to make it public that Armando cheats on her. She cares about public perception. However she throws this out to both Cata and unknown guest. A person who often suffers at the hand's of their partner due to infidelity carries a shame and an embarrassment due to it, so why does Marcela make it public? She does it to make Armando uncomfortable, to show that she has power in the relationship. Also because this is a a tactic many abusers use, which is victimize themselves to the public in order to gain sympathy votes and whenever the person who is the true victim of the situation acts out in defiance, anger, or even abusive/toxic ways, they can say "see I told you! They're the bad one, I'm just a victim!" this allows the abuser to continue having the upper hand in the relationship and further isolating their victim.
Which is something that Armando is dealing with. In another post I talked about how Armando never seemed to make many friends aside from Mario but it just hit me that often times Armando has said that he can't go somewhere or hang out with certain people because Marcela hates them and will not let him go out or use them as an excuse to go on his dates with Betty because Marcela would want to go to keep an eye on him. Often times Marcela is the one that is seen to be the one to have more friends than Armando.]
This isn't the first time that an incident like this happens.
Later on when Armando begins his romance with Betty in the early stages of it they get into a huge fight in his office due to a poem Betty left on his desk signed by Delmira Agostini(Post Hmm, Yeah, Who Knows Where He Spent The Night) and later on that night Hugo goes into his office and tells him about it.
Armando scoffed and said something along the lines of "Marcela went to you with the new piece of gossip, of course she would.". It wasn't until I heard him say that that it all made sense to me.
Armando doesn't just neglect to invite Marcela into his personal intimate life(his thoughts etc.) because he's a cheating whore but because he doesn't trust her.
We're never shown Marcela to be worthy of his trust(just because you're in a relationship with someone doesn't automatically mean you get ownership of their intimacy or that you deserve it for simply being a participating individual of said relationship) . Behind closed doors when he's not around she tells his business to Patricia, Hugo, or Margarita and from there on mouths run. She does it with every affair Armando has and I'm not saying she doesn't have a right to be upset, she does but the way she behaves and reacts to it is the problem.
She demands for Armando to respect her, prioritize her, do everything she wants and without doing anything to be worthy of it. Her possessiveness isn't only related to Armando, she's also possessive regarding her role in Eco Moda, which is a reason why she goes after Betty so much, even before she starts to cover for Armando's infidelities.
Marcela's abuse is by extorting Armando both emotionally and sexually. The man lives only to avoid fights in the relationship and uses affairs as a from of escapism from said relationship, is it justified? No.
This behavior of him feeds the cycle, however we understand that Armando's actions are wrong and not excusable, explainable? Yes but not excused. In the same vain, so are Marcela's actions.
In order for a relationship to be toxic, both people have to be abusive towards each other, if not than it would just be an abusive relationship but because both Marcela and Armando have these abusive tendencies and traits, they both lash out, they both inflict pain on each other and they both hate each others guts.
Due to Armando's gaslighting Marcela reacts fueled with anger to prove that she's right.
[EDIT: This other half(starting from this point on) of the post is written months after I first wrote the first half so there might be a bit of change in tonality when I talk about Marcela, however the point still stands which is why I didn't just write a whole new post in regards to this.]
I've just never understood why she wants to prove she's right and the only thing that comes to mind is ego.
Marce has proven that Armando has been unfaithful. She often says that if she ever caught Armando in the act of infidelity that she'd end him however we have been told countless times of the women Marcela has kicked out of Eco Moda and career's of whom she's ruined because she had enough evidence, just not of Armando with his pants down. This evidence has been enough for Marce to act this way...so wouldn't that be enough to prove that Armando is unfaithful? Enough evidence to end him and their relationship? Each time he denies this, each time he ends the argument with "fine I'll leave then." and she tells him not to.
Why does she stay?
I think Marcela's possessiveness comes from losing her parents and not being able to move through that pain. Losing a loved one is not easy and she lost both her parents and was told that to honor her parents she should marry Armando, that it's what her parents wanted most in the world, for both families to be united and to work for the company.
I do think for that reason Marcela also stayed in the relationship with Armando. She felt that she was honoring her parents final wishes, however, she truly thought or believed she loved Armando and was in love with him.
She didn't understand that what she felt for him wasn't real and genuine feelings.
After taking a break from YSBLF for a couple of weeks I've had to really reflect on my personal opinions of the characters, especially Marcela.
I don't think it's surprising for me to say that I'm not a big fan of hers, even when she's nice. I understand that Armando's actions are a reason as to why she acts the way she does, however while writing for Armando's Deep Dive Character post I came to realize something that made me look at Marcela in a whole new light.
I condemn Marcela so much, without an ounce of redemption, when she's just like Armando.
Pah pah pah
Hear me out.
Not in all aspects, but in some, they are.
This is highlighted a lot when Armando becomes toxic in his relationship with Betty, after she finds the letter.
As I was writing down that part of his post I realized that Armando was acting just like Marcela was when she'd accuse him of cheating and it wasn't until I did that that I decided to take some time and reflect on Marcela and wanting to give her a fair chance instead of making a post only condemning her with only a few nice things to say about her.
Again, emotions, feelings, they are valid but actions aren't always justified, only explained.
In the art of being objective, I must also be objective with Betty and as much as I hate to do this I must run her through the mud for just this once.
Marcela isn't insecure, I think we've established that already. The reason why she stayed with Armando was more in the act of egotism and wanting to be the 'champion', above all women she'd be the one the tame the slut(I use this term without gender in mind). She stays in the relationship because of her possessiveness, like a dog who has marked her territory already, and in a sense to honor her parents, in this order, from priority to lesser.
However there's more to her behavior.
Marcela has been gaslit by Armando for a couple of months, I won't say years because at the start of the Novela it was insinuated that though they were in a relationship for two years that it was understood it was pretty casual from Armando's side since he did make a promise to stop being such a sexual-*ahmm* social butterfly outside of their relationship and to settle down and become more mature. So again I won't say years for the exact reason as even Marcela knew that Armando had his other girlfriends, even if he denied it, like everyone knew.
Obviously this would cause her to act out this way, however very immature on her part. Since with her we don't really get an upbringing, even a small hint like we did with Armando it is really hard to pin point if she was always like this or if it was solely based on Armando's cheating that made her be that way.
However, again, since she was this way from the get go, one can assume she has always been like this.
She's classist, entitled, snobby, elitist, sexist, and so much more from the start.
Due to that we will asume that this is probably due to feeling like she needs to be in a constant competition with women, for Armando. However this in itself present itself as a double edge sword of sorts, for one it causes her to have a big idea of herself. She views herself as better than most women if not all, physically that is. This grandiosity she has of herself is really the factor that causes such a strain in their relationship because let's say that Marcela wasn't so possessive, sexually and emotionally manipulative, and selfish in her relationship, do you think Armando would cheat on her?
And the argument of "why is it only the woman's fault that their partner cheats on them?" its not important rn, this question isn't implying that.
There's a possibility he would, lets be honest, he wasn't in love with Marcela.
But at least he'd love her as a friend, no?
Enough to not want to hurt her.
While yes Armando was marrying her for three reasons, one of them being his ego inflation once he won the presidency of Eco Moda instead of Daniel(though this wasn't the only reason he wanted the gig) the other his parents and lastly the fact he wanted to prove to Marcela, his parents, and himself that he was capable of being mature and settling down with one woman and he chose Marcela to be that woman.
He did want to stay faithful to her and he did want to get serious.
However, this is where the but gets here and Marcela's fanbase will get upset but too bad too sad, this is an objective analysis.
Marcela became so much more possessive of Armando after their engagement. She became very entitled of him and wanted to know where he was, with who, what(who) he was doing, and with whom. His agenda and her fight to have it, against Armando's wishes, was a perfect example of that but also went to symbolize to want lengths Marcela would go to get what she wants, without someone's consent.
With her ever growing entitlement of Armando the more desperate that man became to flee from Marcela to the point that it no longer was about proving to himself and others that he was mature and settling down with Marcela but out of duty, responsibility, and fear that he stayed in the relationship.
We can agree that Armando is just as much to blame for the dissolvement of that relationship as Marcela.
I do think that growing up in an environment where Beauty is the status quo and "perfection" isn't only expected but required has caused her to be very vain and superficial, just like with Armando. She was a daddy's girl and it was implied by Roberto that Marcela was probably her father's favorite.
I already did a post where I talked in granted detail about a father's role in their daughter's development and life[Don Hermes: A Deep Dive] and I suggest you go read it if you haven't in order to continue this next theme.
It's always healthy to grow up with both parents, especially a father figure. It helps a girl out a lot in her life. The problem begins when the father figure isn't a good parental role.
For example: A father who always succumbs to all the tantrums and wishes their daughter has will teach them that they should always get what they want without much effort, that things should be handed to them. It teaches girls that certain things are possessions, even humans, that they deserve things if they so as much just want it. It makes them grow up with a huge ego and belief that they deserve things for simply existing and breathing, even if their behavior isn't in par with it.
Allowing your child to avoid the natural consequences of their actions teaches them that they can do what ever they want.
If Marcela was a huge daddy's girl, but grew up with a father who did absolutely anything she wanted and desired for simply saying it she won't have a balanced way of thinking when it comes to her partner. She would expect him to give her everything she wants and desires for simply being in the relationship and when not met her way she'd throw a tantrum in order to still get it.
What evidence is there in show of this?
One of the very first episodes there's a scene where she's with Margarita, talking about the agenda, I believe, and Margi tells her she's not acting like a mature woman but the same spoiled immature woman as always. Marcela gets offended and angry at this but the scene changes.
The tiny glimpses we get from Marcela aren't positive ones. They indicate someone who always has been this way.
Even though I haven't really sat down to watch the later half of the novela, only the last three episodes, Marcela still carried and acted as herself. Not once did she change, especially those crucial episodes in which she breaks up with Armando.
When she has moments of lucidness, of realizing what that relationship is, Margi and Patsy Pats are always there to pull her away from that lucidness and convince her to stay in the relationship, especially Margi as she constantly manipulates Marcela's emotions to continue the relationship. HOWEVER, even when it comes to that lucidness, Marcela only wants to break up with Armando for the simple reason that it grosses her out that Armando slept with Betty. That's it. It only hurts her that she's suffered and she doesn't want to continue suffering.
Yes this is a valid reason, one should end a relationship if they are unhappy in said relationship. So what is the problem?
Selfishness, even in the breakup, Marcela shows to be selfish. She uses this infidelity that Armando had with a woman, an "ugly" one, and that is the most despicable thing to her, not that he had an affair with a woman, but an ugly one. That is the affair that shatters her self-esteem because she herself realized that it wasn't only physical but emotional. He didn't just have a sexual affair but he literally replaced her in all aspects of their life and treated her better than he treated her, the ugly woman.
That alone is hurtful. We can sympathize with her for it.
Obviously she'd want to break up with him.
However, again, the hurt she feels is a hurt of "What he has done to me" not rather a hurt of "What this relationship has done to the both of us". Time and time again Marcela fails to realize or accept that she too is to blame for their failing of that relationship.
She is a victim to Armando's gaslighting. She is a victim to the cheating.
However as explained in this post we can conclude why Marcela stays in the relationship. She doesn't stay for love, out of fear, out of the fear that no one will love her or want her. She stays out of possessiveness and egotism. She stays to have someone to control. Someone to abuse.
You cannot say Armando did not suffer abuse from Marcela.
She sexually exploited him by not respecting his no's when he'd say he didn't want to or wasn't in the mood. The man would just lay there. Even when it was over, the final times, when did get short scenes of them afterwards, while Marcela was happy, Armando looked somewhere else.
She guilt him to stay in the relationship, she'd talk badly about him to others. She had an absolute control over his social life. Her constant threats of destroying his life if they broke up if she ever physically caught him in the act of cheating weren't empty as she did just that when she had a whiff of cheating on his part.
Yes her feelings are valid, her actions? No.
Even then this woman was severely hurt, either if she herself inflicted these wounds or others did, she did deserve to get well for her sake and not for somebody else. However the huge differences between Marcela and Armando are big. They aren't tiny ones and due to this it could sound like I'm justifying or excusing one's actions while condemning another's actions; which is not the case at all.
And since I already said this post isn't focused on Armando; I won't really explain or try to breakdown his side and I'm merely using these two examples as a means to compare and see how vile Marcela's actions truly were.
The huge differences are that Armando wanted to end the relationship, not for his sake alone, but for Marcela's as well. He didn't want to cause her more harm and knew that by staying with her, even as guilty as he felt hurting her, that he was miserable and would only cause her harm due to it. He knew how his actions would harm her and in order to not harm her anymore he decided that it was best if they broke up. While Marcela only wanted to end the relationship because her ego had crumbled but even then she still didn't want to lose her hold on Armando as an object.
Armando came to not only know why his actions were bad, but understand why and how bad they were as he paid the consequences to it. He lost absolutely everything but in that he also learned what true love is and what self-love/respect means as well. Sadly Marcela never had that. She never really changed her way of thinking, even after Armando expressed to her how he felt in their relationship when they broke up for the final time, Marcela at the end of the novela said she loved Armando and due to that she was telling Betty the whole truth; however the real objective was that Eco Moda wouldn't be abandoned for the banks to shred to pieces, so it wasn't out of love or self-sacrifice for Armando's happiness. She only did it for Eco Moda, in reality she did it for her parents which shows that she can in fact love correctly when it's convenient to her. By that point she knew Armando would never get back with her, no matter how much she wanted it so she did what she had to for Eco Moda and her parents legacy.
The episodes after Betty finds the letter are so emotionally heavy for me that I cannot sit down and watch them just because it stresses me out so much for a lot of reasons, which is why I've taken a break from it.
For one: Marcela entitlement and egotism is so huge and highlighted in these episodes that I get head aches from rolling my eyes.
Two: Armando's behavior pisses me off so much.
and lastly three: Betty. Oh if I were her friend and knew what was going on I'd slap her 'til she orbited Jupiter thrice
Now that those disclaimers are out of the way let's continue analyzing the final stages of Marcela's abusive behavior.
In this love, or relationship triangle Armando is always in the middle of it. He is always split between Marce and Betty. However, what truly highlights his abusive and terrible toxic traits are very much a mirror and identical to those of Marcela.
For example, as mentioned above, when he grabs Betty by the force to kiss her in the office; Marcela constantly going down on him when he tells her he isn't in the mood. When he follows Betty around; Marcela spying on him. When he accuses Betty of cheating; Marcela's constant accusations. When he beat up Nicolas; Marcela destroying the career's of the women he had affairs with and banning them from ever working for Eco Moda.
What's different here?
Well Marcela only ever seemed to let go of an argument when Armando would conclude his gaslighting for the night by threatening to leave the apartment but she never really let go of it. She'd always save it for later; to prove he wasn't trust worthy. Often times when a person says they'll drop it or forgive the person or forget about it and they save it for later this is done in a way to guilt the person, to shame them, and humiliate them and make them feel, even if they've changed, that they will never atone for their past mistakes, that they are in debt to the person and therefore continue to do as they say or stay.
When Betty and Armando would argue or discuss something they'd often do it with the goal of resolving whatever issue it was they were having, which is something that is done in healthy relationships.
When Marcela and Armando are arguing there is constant yelling, no attempt to actually resolve the issue just end the argument because often Marcela wants to be right. She wants to be the one that is to speak and be heard and most importantly be right. This builds an atmosphere of fear, of distrust, and of guilt. Even if Armando did want to confess to her that he had cheated with so and so; it wasn't that Marcela would leave him; it's what she would do in retribution that kept him with his lips sealed.
Armando was terrified of Marcela and what she would do to him, not only in a romantic and personal way but to his entire life.
I'm not saying Marcela didn't have a right to be angry; except again, all of this time we're being told that Marcela loves Armando and her actions always come from a place of love. Does this sound like someone who loves their partner?
Since we've established the reason she stays isn't for love towards Armando we can conclude she stays for the love she feels for herself.
However this parallels to Betty as well.
When Betty comes to find the letter with every right she feels angry, hurt, violated, and hateful. However even then, as valid as her feelings are, her actions are not.
It wasn't until I read @el-moscorrofio-y-el-mercachifle post talking about Armando also being a victim that it finally clicked. For a while I felt like I couldn't really put my finger on it, like I couldn't understand why I disliked Betty so much at this point of the novela until THEN.
Betty takes on the role of Armando in her relationship with Armando, while Armando takes on the role of Marcela.
The papers are reversed. I'll talk more about this in the Armando post but just wanted to sort of bring it on here too because it displays Marcela's abusive behavior so well.
The thing is that Marcela's actions are often celebrated because she's a vengeful woman who was done wrong by the man she loves but we can conclude that Marcela doesn't love Armando, she isn't even in love with him or the idea of him. She's in love with the idea of herself being in love with him. She's in lust with him and she feels like he belongs to her for simply "winning against all the other women."
She uses a lot of tactics that Narcissistic abuser use. I'm not saying she displays symptoms of NPD. However she is very close to it.
Marcela Valencia has good qualities to her; for example deep down she's a romantic who when seeing Freddy and Aura Maria back together she softens and talked to Aura about being serious and not hurting Freddy. Seeing the way Freddy loves Aura Maria is what truly melts her ice heart and she ends up not firing them.
She helps out Patsy Pats even though she knows that she'll mostly likely never pay her back and that Patsy just manipulates her into giving her money and to leach her.
She wants to be loved. She's responsible, hard working, and truly cares about her role in Eco Moda.
These are good qualities of hers.
However they become overshadowed and covered up by all her other terrible qualities so it's really hard to find them and that's the whole point. While Betty is supposed to be "ugly" on the outside she's supposed to be quite beautiful and astonishing on the inside and contrary Marcela is supposed to be extremely attractive on the outside while ugly on the inside.
Yes, cheating is not something anyone deserves and it's not justified. If you're unhappy in a relationship be honest and leave it before you cheat. However both Armando and Marcela had so many responsibilities with other people for the relationship to continue and knowing how they both are they both stayed for those reasons but priorities are the main reason they stayed.
Armando was terrified of ending the relationship for the consequences and retaliation of Marcela. Marcela didn't want to end the relationship because she felt like she'd lose her favorite toy and she wouldn't feel like a champion anymore. Armando cheated to escape the relationship while this just ended up making Marcela even more unbearable. Had Armando never cheated on her after he proposed to her, do you think they would have ended?
Yeah.
Armando was miserable even at the start of that relationship and due to it he didn't trust nor share anything with her and that drove Marcela nuts and would continue to do so.
Healthy relationships, above all have mutual respect for one another and that moves their love to be selfless, their desires to work in harmony, and for issues to be resolved not because of egos but in order to restore the harmony of their relationship.
If we as a fandom condemn Armando for what he did to Betty and Marcela we should also condemn Marcela and Betty for what they did to Armando.
In this love triangle of sorts they were all victims of their borderline abusive and full on abusive traits. Also they're all victims of Margarita, in all honesty she should be the one that should be blamed, along with Roberto. They both sucked as(Step) parents, role models, and advisories.
Anyway hope y'all like this post. I know it's a little all over the place but I've been writing it for months and finally decided to post the first part.
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casfa88 · 2 years
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This one is just for you @youwontlikethisblog !!!!
I mean look at that face! Betty had a very sweet and pure beauty from the beginning. Honestly just a haircut and a change of glasses would have been enough! Sometimes I think they had her use a little too much makeup at the end for her character- I think just a good balm for help lips would have been nice and not some of the dark colors they have her use. She still looked good either way but I absolutely agree she was pretty form the beginning and she deserves some "pre make over" love! It is so clear from Armando how much he felt from the beginning - although a lot of their story was angsty really from the beginning you see a tenderness from him towards her and a true feeling of work partners to accomplices to friends to lovers. It is so nice to see how deeply he falls for all she has to offer him and to see his change - and the way she views her. Although we as the audience know she is always beautiful, I can see the slow shift in how the novela shows Armando's perception for her as he subconsciously falls for her and then as he starts to accept that he is truly, for the first time - the only time - in love and is truly loved. He begins to see this sort of sweet, innocent beauty she has.
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ysblf-19 · 4 years
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Betty imitando a Nicolas Mora en uno de los mejores episodios de la novela
Magnifico libreto, actores perfectos
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