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tyrionsource · 2 years

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Tyrion Lannister Appreciation Month

Day 5: Political Arc / Hand of the King

#tyrionmonth2022 #tyrion lannister #tyrionlannisteredit #asoiaf #asoiafedit #gotedit #canontyrion #sansa stark #margaery tyrell #janos slynt #myrcella baratheon #barra asoiaf #gifs #op

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laurellerual · 1 year

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Whose your favorite Baratheon?

Ok, first of all, how dare you?! I love all my children equally Stan:

The one true king of my heart and his sweet and doomed fawn.

My rays of sunshine

My personification of all self-destructive tendencies out there

My strong girl and my dashed hopes for the future

Them obv...

And the rest too!

#asoiaf #asoiaf fanart #stannis baratheon #shireen baratheon #edric storm #renly baratheon #robert baratheon #mya stone #barra #barra waters #bella #bella rivers #gendry #gendry waters #the other 11 nameless bastards #house baratheon #storm’s end #our is the fury #grrm

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westerosiladies · 1 year

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Love no one but your children. On that front a mother has no choice.

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pixiecactus · 3 months

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the not baratheon bunch

#asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #house baratheon #but not really #house florent #mya stone #bella #gendry #edric storm #the unnamed twins #barra #and the nine others that they have never been mentioned currently in the narrative #let's be honest the only good thing that robert baratheon ever did was giving us and the narrative his bastards

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grey-joys · 10 months

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@ship-ambrosia : Only Gendry and Renly get rights

Me: WHAT ABOUT MYA AND BELLA AND EDRIC AND SHIREEN AND-

#don’t worry we’ve corrected this statement #stupid squid thoughts #game of thrones #asoiaf #valyrianscrolls #gendry waters #renly baratheon #mya stone #bella rivers #shireen baratheon #edric storm #barra waters #asoiaf barra #robert baratheon #house baratheon #ours is the fury

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andthemaidenfair · 2 years

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“[Cersei] had invoked the mothers mercy appealing to the sympathy of one woman to another”

*stares in Sansa, Margaery, Alla, Megga, Elinor, Falyse, Senelle, Jeyne, Barra, and Alayaya*

#I know Barras a bit of a stretch here but barra had a mother and barra never did shit to Cersei she was a baby!#she infuriates me omg #oh and also the serving woman at the rock and her twins if it’s true #and also threatened and certainly would have killed mya #and also Melara #Cersei Lannister #asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #a dance with dragons #adwd

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ladystoneboobs · 6 months

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possibly incomplete list of asoiaf characters described as having red or even "ginger" hair (or red-gold as opposed to red-brown or ghiscari red-black), never auburn:

mycah, the butcher's boy*

beric dondarrion (red-gold hair)*

lharys, member of the three stooges men-at-arms (wild rust-colored hair)**

unnamed and unfortunate mother of robert baratheon's doomed youngest child, barra (light red-haired mother of black-haired baby)*

tomard aka "fat tom", stark guardsman (with his ginger whiskers)*

horas "horror" redwyne (orange hair)*

hobber "slobber" redwyne (orange hair)*

unnamed red-haired whore leaning out a window the day of ned's execution (presumably not the same as above since she was joking about the king's death)*

melisandre of asshai (deep burnished copper. red and terrible and red.)*

a man called jaqen h'ghar (red on one side, white on the other)*

pug-nosed dancy from chataya's brothel (described as red-haired by tyrion in acok but honey-blonde in asos, so presumably hair dye must have been involved between those book mentions.)**

addam marbrand (hair the same copper color as his horse's mane)*

"ginger-headed" maester frenken*

unnamed beardless ginger youth among theon's crew at winterfell*

ygritte, a spearwife "kissed-by-fire" (bright red)*

arryk aka "left" or "right", lady olenna's red-mustached guardsman*

erryk aka "left" or "right", lady olenna's other, identical, red-mustached guardsman*

lord paxter redwyne (tufts of orange hair)**

anguy the archer of the bwb*

a red-bearded karstark rapist dead in a crow cage at stoney sept*

tansy, innkeeper of the peach in stoney sept*

meryn trant (rust-red hair)*

"red" ronnet connington

mero, "the titan's bastard", former commander of the second sons (bushy red-gold beard)

a red-headed soldier who came with stannis to the wall

shadrich "the mad mouse" (bristly orange hair)*

lord rykker's red-mustached maester

marwyn belmore, lysa's former guard captain (ginger-headed)*

lord benedar belmore with a beard that was "a ginger-grey horror"*

lord orton merryweather (reddish-orange hair)

"the red oarsman", one of euron greyoy's followers (fiery red hair)

unnamed red-haired sailor arriving at port in braavos*

lord clement piper

and his son lewys "little lew" piper, who served as squire to jaime lannister in the riverlands

unnamed red-haired youth who first escaped northward with varamyr from the battle at the wall

one of illyrio's washerwomen (dull red hair)**

jon connington (once red hair gone to grey, still red at the roots and eyebrows even when the rest was dyed blue. also had a bright red beard as a younger man.)**

rolly "duck" duckfield (a shock of orange hair)**

a young man among the wildling refugees at mole's town whose red hair reminded jon of ygritte*

the "sunset kingdoms" girl raped by tyrion in the brothel where he was captured by jorah**

hagen's daughter, only other woman among asha greyjoy's crew

roggon rustbeard, one of asha's men

mully of the nw (greasy orange hair)*

bloodbeard, commander of the company of the cat (fiery red whiskers)

"ginger" jack, a toungeless sellsword of the windblown sent to dany, face nearly covered by his bristly, orange beard

gerrick kingsblood*

and his son*

and gerrick's daughter #1*

and gerrick's daughter #2*

and gerrick's daughter #3*

ronald storm, son of ronnet connington

one of the 7 "choicest" enslaved girls from the yunkish ship who were sacrificed by victarion (red-gold hair)

an enslaved redhead boy in line for a well, asking tyrion about dany**

nail, apprentice to hammer, the armorer for the second sons**

maester tybald, redhaired maester from the dreadfort serving arnolf karstark

valena toland, heiress to ghost hill (bright red hair)

teora toland, valena's younger sister with the same hair

uther shett, knight arriving for sweetrobin's tourney (ginger-haired and whiskered)*

*characters whose hair is described in the povs of starks (or jon snow) who only use the terms auburn or red-brown for catelyn, robb, sansa etc. and do not compare said characters to said tully-haired relations

**characters whose hair is described by tyrion lannister, who spent significant time with sansa and exclusively referred to her hair as auburn (without anyone else telling him her hair color as catelyn told brienne)

the only asoiaf characters ever described as having auburn hair:

catelyn tully stark

robb stark (red-brown/auburn tully hair "so like" his mother's, with a beard redder than his hair)

sansa stark (auburn hair lighter than her mother's, most reddish glowing in candlelight)

brandon "bran" stark (hair not bright red enough for him to distinguish himself from young benjen at first glance in a weirwood flashback)

rickon stark

brynden "the blackfish" tully (once auburn hair gone to grey)

edmure tully (auburn hair with a fiery beard, likely brighter than his hair like robb's)

lysa tully arryn baelish

known tully descendants never described as having auburn hair

arya stark (darker brown stark-colored hair)

hoster tully (hair and beard gone from brown to brown streaked with grey to white as snow)

robert "sweetrobin" arryn (fine brown hair, thought by sansa to be his best feature)

fun fact: the only other character that i can find to ever even be descibed as having red-brown hair in the main series is rowan, one of the spearwives who accompanied mance on his mission to winterfell. (described by theon, who had psychological reasons not to think of any hair-resemblance to robb and co.)

tl;dr i suppose my point here is that auburn hair in the real world may be a term thrown around wildly as a fancier way of saying red hair, but grrm and his westerosi creations seem to keep to a much more specific (true) definition. not just specific, almost entirely unique to a certain family, a weird mutation passing down their line somewhat inexplicably, like the magic platinum hair of the targaryens. (ned stark's 4 tully-haired kids being sorta like alicent hightower's 4 targ-haired kids where nobody can really explain why it was so dominant.) except it's actually more unique to the tullys than either black hair to the baratheons or silver hair to the targaryens, with the velaryons also having valyrian hair as well as some people in the essosi free cities too. which i guess makes rowan the wildling the equalivent of an unknown dragonseed or a lysene woman who could pass as a targ, and regular brown-haired hoster and sweetrobin the equivalent of regular blonde-haired alysanne and alyssa targaryen. so the next time someone calls the tullys lame or whatever, just remember that in-universe they're actually more special than the dragonriders, at least hairwise.

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nightswatchdisbandmentera · 1 year

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PSA: Lyanna Stark was NOT a hypocrite

It’s a little annoying how often ASOIAF fans will misread and purposefully misinterpret Lyanna’s thoughts about Robert’s true nature, as a way to prove that she’s hypocritical (while also absolving Robert from all his faults as a husband/lover).

First, let’s look at that conversation again, shall we?

“Robert will never keep to one bed,” Lyanna had told him at Winterfell, on the night long ago when their father had promised her hand to the young Lord of Storm’s End. “I hear he has gotten a child on some girl in the Vale.” Ned had held the babe in his arms; he could scarcely deny her, nor would he lie to his sister, but he had assured her that what Robert did before their betrothal was of no matter, that he was a good man and true who would love her with all his heart. Lyanna had only smiled. “Love is sweet, dearest Ned, but it cannot change a man’s nature.”

And we must consider the larger context:

The girl had been so young Ned had not dared to ask her age. No doubt she’d been a virgin; the better brothels could always find a virgin, if the purse was fat enough. She had light red hair and a powdering of freckles across the bridge of her nose, and when she slipped free a breast to give her nipple to the babe, he saw that her bosom was freckled as well. “I named her Barra,” she said as the child nursed. “She looks so like him, does she not, milord? She has his nose, and his hair …”

“She does.” Eddard Stark had touched the baby’s fine, dark hair. It flowed through his fingers like black silk. Robert’s firstborn had had the same fine hair, he seemed to recall.

“Tell him that when you see him, milord, as it … as it please you. Tell him how beautiful she is.”

“I will,” Ned had promised her. That was his curse. Robert would swear undying love and forget them before evenfall, but Ned Stark kept his vows. He thought of the promises he’d made Lyanna as she lay dying, and the price he’d paid to keep them.

- Eddard IX, AGOT

Ned recalls his conversation with Lya as he returns from visiting one of Robert’s bastards. He has just made a promise to tell Robert about the babe and laments that he is a man who honors and keeps his vows. When me promises to do something, he will go through with it.

Furthermore, this scene is framed within the context of Robert being a liar. He will swear one thing and then immediately perform actions that directly contradict whatever oaths he has made. Robert would say that he loves Lyanna and would remain faithful to her, and only her, but then would immediately go an and betray her trust.

That’s what Lyanna is talking about in her conversation with Ned. She’s not condemning Robert for fathering a bastard. She’s condemning him for fathering a bastard all while he swears oaths of love and loyalty to her. Because Ned tells her that Robert loves her and only her, that he’s sworn to be faithful to her alone. Yet Lyanna goes, “are you sure about that, dear brother?” Because why would he swear loyalty to her then turn around and do the exact opposite of that loyalty, which is laying with another woman and fathering a child on her?

As much as Lyanna has the right to call out her betrothed’s promiscuity, she’s really not doing that here. She’s using his promiscuity to call out his lying and unreliable nature. Robert may love her, but he will not honor that love and stay true to her. That’s literally what she means by saying

“Love is sweet, dearest Ned, but it cannot change a man’s nature.”

Simple as that.

Also, notice how the topic of oaths and vows comes into play. This conversation undoubtedly brings into mind the concept of knighthood and the chivalric code. Robert has, from the very beginning, been a deconstruction of the knightly ideal. He’s a knight who fought a battle against the (not so) evil dragon/prince and won, but he was ultimately without honor and became a bad king. He’s the same knight who vowed to rescue his maiden (Lyanna) but was also unfaithful to her. This is a deconstruction of the chivalric tale. We’re meant to think that Robert, NOT Lyanna, is the hypocrite here. Robert is just another one of GRRM’s failed knights in ASOIAF; remember that before he was a king, Robert was a Ser.

And if we really want to bring Rhaegar into this, I’m afraid that we cannot call him a hypocrite for fathering a child on Lyanna.

He wondered if Rhaegar had frequented brothels; somehow he thought not.

The text directly contradicts the idea that Robert and Rhaegar are similar. Ned himself, who has a close personal relationship with Robert, acknowledges this. And going back to the point about the deconstruction of chivalry, Rhaegar is a knight as well. His elopement with Lyanna directly plays into the chivalric performance of a knight kidnapping an innocent young maiden. It’s a tale as old as time, literally. But this is not a clear cut case of Rhaegar being the evil knight (or the evil dragon, as some of our fantasy tales might have it) because the text goes to great lengths to paint him as the opposite of Robert.

Rhaegar did not swear vows of love and loyalty to Lyanna and then break them (as far as we know). While he was married to Elia and was fond of her, as per Barrtistan, there is no indication in the text that he personally vowed to love her above all before he ultimately absconded with Lyanna. So, Lyanna running off with Rhaegar instead of marrying Robert does not make her actions hypocritical. There’s really no reason to read this passage that way. At all.

So TL,DR:

STOP calling Lyanna a hypocrite because of this one conversation. That’s literally not supported within the text at all. Lyanna is not objecting to Robert fathering a bastard. Rather, she’s objecting too him fathering a bastard all while he tells her father and brothers that he wishes to marry her, love her, and be faithful to her.

STOP trying to compare Robert and Rhaegar through this lens - that Rhaegar and Lyanna are hypocrites. The text directly contradicts that idea. Robert is the hypoactive and the liar, NOT Lyanna or Rhaegar.

It’s that simple. No need to overcomplicate things.

I’m not entirely sure why this passage has been misinterpreted for so long but here we are…

#asoiaf #lyanna stark #rhaegar targaryen #r plus l equals j #robert baratheon #valyrianscrolls #I’m looking at you Reddit #Y’all continue to have absolute dog💩 reading comprehension #my stuff

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asongofstarkandtargaryen · 11 months

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Let’s be honest, the reason the “progressive feminist tumblr marxist asoiaf fans who believes that 40-years-old male misogynists are woman/teenage girl coded” don’t take Robert’s misogyny seriously and even turn him into a goofy and sympathetic character is because his violence is directed at Cersei & Daenerys, the two women they hate the most and empathize with the least. And given the way Daenerys’s haters cheers on Rhaego’s death, calls him “baby H*tler”, and praises Mirri Maz Duur for violating Daenerys’s bodily autonomy, there’s no doubt that people think Robert was right in ordering her death when he learns that Daenerys is pregnant. I know these fans were giggling and kicking their feet when Robert called Daenerys a “whore”. This fandom will use leftist and woke language to justify the idea of rape and male violence as punishment for groups of women they have decided are socially acceptable/permissible to face patriarchal violence.

If his abuse were directed at ANY other women then he’d be as hated as Rhaegar, Daemon, Tyrion, etc are by the fandom. How can people hate Rhaegar for loving Lyanna but don’t find fault with Robert “loving” her ?? Robert was 21-years-old at the time. And to be clear, his abuse IS directed to other women. He habitually preys on women, even young girls. Barra’s mother is 15-years-old and Robert blames her for getting pregnant, “Barra. Is that supposed to please me ? Damn the girl. I thought she had more sense.” He has fathered and abandoned so many children. But those women won’t get empathy from the fandom because most of them are lowborn & not the highborn soft feminine type.

You would think for as much as the fandom loves Elia for instance, they’d hate the man who called her children “dragonspawn”, said “I see no babes”, and rewarded the men who raped her and murdered her and her children, but because he killed Rhaegar, abused Cersei (when they aren’t busy claiming she is making up the rapes she endured at the hands of Robert because she’s just Bertha Mason 2.0 to them), and wanted to murder Daenerys I guess it evens out.

I've noticed that some fans excuse the abuse of female antagonists (like Cersei) or female characters they dislike (like Dany). They even talk about these women "getting what they deserved" which is extremely sexist.

People who sympathize with Robert confuse me. Because the text proves time after time how much of a shitty husband/father/king he was. It's fine liking antagonists and rotten characters but I do wonder how many of those who sympathize with him recognize all his flaws...

#asoiaf ask #a post of ice and fire #valyrianscrolls

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gendrie · 1 year

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eddard viii

eddard stark passionately defended dany’s life and dont any of you EVER forget it

“have you forgotten who is king here?” “no have you?” biiiitch

ned QUIT

"titles are cheap faceless men are expensive" and littlefinger says if they sent a FM after her dany would be as good as dead. tbh i think theres a 0% chance they dont fuck with dany and, more importantly, her dragons in the near future. pro bono too.

catelyn vi

say what you will about catelyn but i like that she reflects upon her own actions.

brynden tully! i love him

"your home is in my heart" people romanticize/sexualize comments like this among family in asoiaf but its, usually, just familial love. i’ll never find it weird to associate your family members with home and heart

a bastard exists near catelyn and she feels angry *and* guilty

lord nestor speaks very highly of mya

catelyn meets two gnc women who wear mail, pants and have short hair and she compares both to.....sansa

lysa and catelyn proving that sometimes sisters cant stand each other as adults bc of conflicting interests and 15 yr old drama despite an infinite number of anecdotal posts from tumblr users insisting that never happens

hoster and bynden’s lifelong feud also mentioned in this chap

"catelyn wanted to slap her" lol the real sibling shit

eddard ix

barra and her mother are breaking ned's heart (and mine)

ned sees jons face "so like a younger version of his own" and then reflects about bastards and mens lusts

jaime is about to piss me off

ned takes responsibility for what catelyn did bc hes a real man

littlefinger ran outta there so fast his sigil should be a roadrunner. meep! meep!

3 against 20????????????? oh thats just wrong. arya knew tho huh

ned crawls thru the mud in agony to cradle jory’s body - a lowborn member of his household and ned grieves him. arya is not alone in that.

this whole moment parallels arya + ned, jaime + joffrey, and sansa + littlefinger so intensely

#asoiaf reread #i dont hate jaime #but he ranks low for me #annoying ass blonde man lol #at least right now #he's tormenting the starks!

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daenystheedreamer · 10 months

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(Tyrionyork as always) Keeping Up With The Barra/nnisters, but with asoiaf magic, how would that work in your opinion? I'm talking full reality tv version, not "just" modern au - how do you think magic plays in this version?

see. ok. my problem is i am a massive i mean MASSIVE pedantic nerd so anytime its urban fantasy or whatever im like So what is the implications. like how could the industrial revolution happen if magic exists right like how is it regulated by the government cos if u have government you have regulation. So im really annoying like that. BUT. i also think urban fantasy is saur fun+ if i turn my brain off i can imagine it like asoiaf where its like just at the edges yknow. cersei would get cancelled for doing arson with wildfyre. dany births dragons while at Myr University in her dorm room and she has to comically hide them. Where Are They Now for arya (the sister of the girlfriend of the sister of the boyfriend of the uncle from kuwtb) and its like *clickbait youtube video voice* arya stark is practicing the arcane assassination arts at the house of black and also they go by he/they now

#kuwtb #ask #tyrionyork #kisses bby<3 #i am sooo annoying about canon bro

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minasmorghul · 2 years

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Btw, I love your face claims for the genderbent starklings. They fit so well. What made you choose the starklings names? Like how did you pick the right ones?

(I can never name my asoiaf Ocs, it's quite difficult. My only Oc that has a decent name is a free folk girl named Torunn lol).

thank you so very much!!

I chose the names off a combination of both Watsonian reasonings (Robb being Barra because he was named for Robert) as well as historical Stark names I thought sounded nice!! For Symeon/Sansa, that's the only name that wasn't a typical Stark/Northern name, but I chose it based off of Symeon Star-Eyes, which is an in-universe story of a blind knight with sapphires for eyes, which I found poetic in a sense.

#asks: melancholic lioness

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westerosiladies · 2 years

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Robert Baratheon's (known) bastards and their mothers

#game of thrones #asoiaf #valyrianscrolls #robert baratheon #robert baratheon's bastards #mya stone #bella rivers #gendry waters #edric storm #barra waters #mya stone fancast #jordan loughran #bella rivers fancast #coral amiga #gendry fancast #skandar keynes #edric storm fancast #asa butterfield

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asoiaf-artbrdr · 2 years

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King Robert's known bastards...

Mya Stone, of the Vale of Aryyn

Bella Rivers, born in Stoney Sept

Gendry Waters, raised in King's Landing

Edric Storm, fostered at Storm's End

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That the armorer's sullen apprentice was the king's son, Ned had no doubt. The Baratheon look was stamped on his face, in his jaw, his eyes, that black hair. Renly was too young to have fathered a boy of that age, Stannis too cold and proud in his honor. Gendry had to be Robert's.

Yet knowing all that, what had he learned? The king had other baseborn children scattered throughout the Seven Kingdoms. He had openly acknowledged one of his bastards, a boy of Bran's age whose mother was highborn. The lad was being fostered by Lord Renly's castellan at Storm's End.

Ned remembered Robert's first child as well, a daughter born in the Vale when Robert was scarcely more than a boy himself. A sweet little girl; the young lord of Storm's End had doted on her. He used to make daily visits to play with the babe, long after he had lost interest in the mother. Ned was often dragged along for company, whether he willed it or not. The girl would be seventeen or eighteen now, he realized; older than Robert had been when he fathered her. A strange thought. - Game, Eddard VII

#robert baratheon #asoiaf fanart #valyrianscrolls #artbreeder #house baratheon #gendry waters #ser gendry of the hollow hill #mya stone #bella rivers #bella asoiaf #edric storm #house florent #i know barra counts but i didnt think i had enough to go on to make a unique baby #queue better believe it

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asongoficeandfiresource · 4 years

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Robert Baratheon’s Known Children || The king had other baseborn children scattered throughout the Seven Kingdoms. He had openly acknowledged one of his bastards, a boy of Bran's age whose mother was highborn. The lad was being fostered by Lord Renly's castellan at Storm's End.

Ned remembered Robert's first child as well, a daughter born in the Vale when Robert was scarcely more than a boy himself. A sweet little girl; the young lord of Storm's End had doted on her. He used to make daily visits to play with the babe, long after he had lost interest in the mother. Ned was often dragged along for company, whether he willed it or not. The girl would be seventeen or eighteen now, he realized; older than Robert had been when he fathered her. A strange thought.

Cersei could not have been pleased by her lord husband's by-blows, yet in the end it mattered little whether the king had one bastard or a hundred. Law and custom gave the baseborn few rights. Gendry, the girl in the Vale, the boy at Storm's End, none of them could threaten Robert's trueborn children … -- A Game of Thrones

#house baratheon #mya stone #bella #gendry #edric storm #barra #asoiafedit #gotedit #iheartgot #gameofthronesdaily #asoiaf #by marie #gifs #agot

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westerosoliviapope · 3 years

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The Baratheon Brood?

Thinking of featuring the Baratheon bastards in my next story. So far, we've met Edric (an investment banker who miiiiight cause some problems for Renly and Margaery - Gala At the God's Eye). And I referenced Gendry in passing (as the Brotherhood Without Banners advocate that Arya's in an on-and-off relationship with - The Snake & The Wolf).

Maybe it's time to meet Gendry on the page and flesh him out a little (get ready for some #Gendrya) and get some tidbits about Mya (who does competitive rock climbing and owns a couple of climbing gyms in the Vale).

And Bella is the most well-known exotic dancer in Maidenpool (think J. Lo in Hustlers) known for top-tier pole work. And Barra... Idk. If I use her, it might be in some extreme opposite of sex work. Like maybe growing up in a brothel would make her go in a completely different direction?

We'll see.

#scandal westeros #mya stone #edric storm #gendry baratheon #bella rivers #barra waters #fanfic headcanon #modern asoiaf au #modern game of thrones #modern westeros #baratheon bastards #modern asoiaf fanfic

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