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There is something powerful to the fact that the “I love you” of A Court of Silver Flames is not Cassian & instead is the Archeron sisters.
… That the first person who replies, "I love you too” to Nesta; a person who has never been able to say I love you, be allowed to love or be safe in that. Let alone have it reciprocated, without being immediately followed by their death (or destruction of some sort). And that that person is her sister; who loved her before & will love her after, who would fight to keep her safe & actually take care of her.
And Feyre finally gets to hear that from her big sister; from the family she thought she never had. It gives a full circle from how she left; feeling out of place among the human world, to end up in Prythian in the first place, she thought she was alone & left out to dry (or more likely freeze to death). To then in her almost end for the family she did find, she is saved by the sister she always had; the one who followed her to the edge of the wall, fought for her & spent days trying to rip into Prythian; to save her no matter the cost, and when the time came she “gave it all back” to pay it.
Feyre loved her, even when Nesta thought she wasn't worthy of it. Nesta loved her even when Feyre thought her sister hated her. And they both finally get to hear it, say it, see it, feel it, know it. They are worthy & they are loved regardless, they have an unconditional family of relatives & found loves. Their story enters a new world, one that is no longer alone. And there's something powerful in THAT as the choice, “I love you”.
+ We all know Cassian LOVES Nesta, even Nesta knows CASSIAN LOVES NESTA!!! It's been shown, thought, practically said (just got cut off)… it would’ve been nice, but it's already known. It didn't need assurance like they did.
#ACOSF#A Court of Silver Flames#the archeron sisters#Nesta Archeron#Feyre Archeron#Cassian#Nessian#Archeron sisters#acotar sisterhood#acotar#sarah j. maas#the Archerons#High Ladies#Valkyrie#ACOTAR Archerons#Archeron 3#Prythian#Maasverse#women of acotar#sarah j maas#sisterhood#heroine#power of a girl#female friendship#family dynamics#full circle#Night Court#faeries#night & death#ACOSF spoilers
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uh hi i have a package delivery for the acotar fandom, says here it’s a 10k archeron sisters relationship study plus motherhood responsibilities feyre/feysand pov with a side of emotionally repressed elriel?
gonna need you to sign here pls and thank you👇🏼
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this is the scene is was talking about between feyre & elain - wherein it is extremely clear that feyre does not hold their poverty against her & forgives her for it. admittedly, yes, it would be nice to have an actual apology scene but i’ve always been content with this scene as enough evidence that elain and feyre have always been fine and the development after this
(their scenes in ACOFAS, feyre & elain learning to understand one another & also elain adapting to the night court & helping feyre heal post-war & then obviously the further development in ACOSF where elain finds out the pregnancy before feyre tells anybody etc etc there’s probably more analysis to be had but right now i’m only talking about 1 scene i’ll probably deep dive about them later on)
if it wasn’t obvious i really really love the archeron girlies
everyone always talks about nesta & feyre & their development but elain & feyre are worth talking about too
#elain archeron#elain acotar#elain kingslayer#pro elain#pro elain archeron#feyre archeron#pro feyre archeron#pro feyre#feyre acotar#feyre cursebreaker#feyre and elain#elain and feyre#archeron sisters#archeron sisters supremacy#sisters#sisterhood#ghostposting#ghost posting
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A Court of Divinity and Ashes, a canon-divergent ACOWAR AU
Pairings: Elriel, Nessian, and Feysand
Rating: M to E
Summary:
When Elain Archeron was twelve years old, she disappeared on her way to the market.
Ten years later, both of Nesta Archeron’s little sisters are gone. Dead, she presumes.
Until Feyre shows up on her doorstep with pointed ears and three faerie males dressed for war. Until Nesta is bound and gagged before a faerie king with a pale, hollow-eyed woman she doesn’t recognize standing beside her.
Read it here on AO3!
#elain was kidnapped by the children of the blessed and feyre & nesta bonded over their grief in her absence#the au#elriel#nessian#feysand#elain archeron#nesta archeron#feyre archeron#rhysand#cassian#azriel#acotar fic#acotar fanfiction#it's... not as dark as it sounds. it's a vehicle for hurt/comfort sisterhood and tender elriel angst.#nesta: both of my baby sisters are DEAD and i'm a FAILURE#the king of hybern: bing bong! they're right here!
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Class is in Session
Welcome to Prythian University, where I intend to write many unhinged long-form essays on cultural issues in the ACOTAR world!
Disclaimer: You will see me at times reference my credentials as a licensed mental health professional. Nothing I say is a substitute for real therapy or mental health care. To the best of my ability, I will reiterate my credentials on every post when I am intentionally speaking from a professional perspective. All other posts are personal and should not be regarded in a professional context. I am always happy to answer questions!
Almost all posts contain sensitive topics, and while content warnings are included, this material is generally not fit for anyone under 18.
COMPLETED
Nesta, Interrupted: gendered perceptions of alcoholism in ACOSF
Don't Worry Feyre, Darling: the relationship anxiety to coersive control pipeline
Gone Baby Gone: birth control and the ethics of risky sex
All in the Family: ACOTAR and Bowenian family systems theory, PART I | PART II | PART III | PART IV
Heavy Lies the Crown: Rhysand, greatness, and the pressures of power
FICS
A Court of Vice and Victors - ACoSF rewrite. pro nesta, pro healthy nessian, ic critical, everyone is capable of change ft alcoholism taken seriously and family dysfunction examined
NON-ACADEMIC THOUGHT LOOPS
meditations on motivations at the beginning of acosf
the culpability (or not) of mor
on the politics of healing while loving, and loving while healing
Why is pre-acofas nessian compelling
IN THE PIPELINE
Your Epidermis is Showing: bias, culture, and when authors accidentally tell the truth
Daddy Issues and Daddy Issues: the aesthetics of female trauma
We Need to Talk About Kevin Azriel: sanctioned violence and private atonement
The Sisterhood of the Traveling Trauma: birth order, family roles, and why siblings have different childhoods.
#acotar#mental health#essay#nesta#cassian#azriel#rhysand#feyre#morrigan#acosf#nessian#pro nesta archeron#feminism#prythian university#sjm critical
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Nesta was blessed (as she should) with the best friendship and sisterhood of the entire ACOTAR series.
The Valkyries are it. They are the perfect match.
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chapter ix - gust & flame
Eris Vanserra x Reader
Eris Vanserra has been a prisoner in his own home since the day he was born. He has done what he had to in order to survive and protect the few he loves. And he is playing the long game. Waiting, waiting, and waiting for the right time to make his move, to usurp his wicked father and become High Lord of Autumn Court. But things become even more complicated when a human girl drops into his life. Perhaps Eris can wait no longer to take his throne.
Word Count: 3,000+
Warnings: spoilers for entire ACOTAR series
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For being one of the strongest High Fae currently alive, Feyre was still huffing quite a lot up the steep hill.
Y/N had tried to sneak out to go on another one of her hikes. The sneaking was due to her knowing no one would let her go alone after what happened with Cassian and Nyx. But that was exactly why she wanted to go alone: so no one else could be put in danger.
However, Feyre had been visiting the House of Wind, on the hunt for her sister, when she crossed paths with Y/N.
The High Lady had insisted on joining Y/N for her hike, choosing a very different trail and a completely different woods than where she had been attacked.
“You alright?” Y/N asked with a teasing tone.
Feyre glared at her. “I understand the benefits and joy of a hike. But why are we sprinting?”
Y/N shrugged. “Part fresh air, part endurance training.”
“I used to hunt in the woods, back in the mortal lands. Started when I was just a child. But I was slow and quiet.”
“I see,” Y/N took in the bit of information. Feyre didn’t talk much about her time as a mortal. It didn’t seem like a taboo subject. Perhaps her happiness with the present made her dwell on the past very little. “Hunting is quite different than hiking.”
Then Y/N paused and smirked at the High Lady over her shoulder and teased, “Maybe you should spend some time training with the Valkyries…”
Feyre laughed, but shook her head. “That is Nesta’s domain, her sisterhood. I dare not intrude on it. I train still, just not with them.”
For some reason, the response triggered Y/N to think about the third Archeron sister. She knew the least of Elain, but enough to know she was not a warrior. Y/N had never seen the middle sister train, and rarely did she ever leave the River House.
“I met Lucien the other day,” Y/N blurted out.
It was enough for Feyre to stop in her tracks.
Feyre gave a short nod. “Rhysand said Azriel mentioned him stopping by your shop.”
Y/N continued hiking, but slowed down the pace to make it easier for them to converse. “I did not realize Elain had a…mate.”
“We once called ourselves friends, Lucien and I. But I’m not sure what we are anymore. I should say I feel like I’m stuck between the two of them. But Lucien rarely has the courage to ask me about Elain. And my sister likes to pretend Lucien doesn’t exist.”
Y/N was silent for a moment, trying to tread the topic carefully, but still wanting her curiosities answered. “I just thought…from what I know of mates – you and Rhys, Nesta and Cassian…”
Feyre gave her a sympathetic look. “Mating bonds are…peculiar things. To some, they create soulmates.”
“Like you and Rhys.”
Feyre nodded. “But to others, it’s just two puzzle pieces finally being put together. Nothing more – no connection, not emotions. Bonds not always equate to love. Sometimes it’s the Cauldron telling us that two people would simply create superior offspring.”
“You make it sound so…cold.”
Feyre nodded again. “My sister…she would have never chosen the life she’s been given. Elain thought she was in love – and perhaps she was. But she was turned fae against her will. And the next moment: a stranger confessed that they were bond together – all while she still wore her engagement ring to a mortal, who hated what she became.”
Poor Elain, Y/N thought. “Is he so horrible that she won’t even give him a chance?”
“Lucien is not horrible. He has made great mistakes…but…he is a good male.”
Y/N processed that. The wind had told her of his lost lover, of being forced to watch her get murdered by his family and court. How could Eris have watched such a thing and not intervened? But the wind did confess that it was Eris who helped his youngest brother escape Autumn Court and seek sanctuary in Spring Court.
“He seemed surprised that Eris knew me, that he had saved me and brought me here.”
Feyre’s body stiffened at the slight change of subject.
“Does he not know that Eris wishes to take the throne from their father?”
Feyre took in a slow breath. “It is best that you do not speak of Eris’ plans for his court.”
“Does he know that Lucien is not his father’s son? Is he not the bastard child of Helion Spellcleaver?”
Y/N realized by the High Lady’s reaction that she just spoke an even more dangerous piece of information.
It wouldn’t be the first time the winds had gotten her in trouble with sharing such secrets.
“Y/N,” Feyre’s voice was so serious that it caused a chill to go down Y/N’s spine. “You must never speak of that to anyone.”
“Lucien does not know,” Y/N whispered in realization.
“No. And I do not believe Helion knows either,” Feyre added. “The Lady of Autumn has kept her son’s secret close to her heart – to keep him alive, I imagine.”
Y/N knows of Lucien’s true parentage, Feyre spoke to Rhysand through their minds.
But Rhysand only seemed amused, Who knew the winds could be so troublesome?
She seems rather curious about Elain and Lucien’s bond, Feyre added. Should we tell her? She deserves to know about Eris.
We cannot, Rhys answered immediately. We promised him we wouldn’t.
Feyre grew frustrated in her mates head, She will be just as angry as I was. But furthermore, she will be confused. She will not understand it like I had. He is not her kind.
He does not wish for her to know. Beron is still a risk to her. It is not our place, Feyre darling.
Feyre cut off the connection, further proving her growing frustration.
“You alright?” Y/N asked.
Feyre just nodded. “Damn your hikes.”
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A week later, Y/N was cleaning around her shop. She was gaining more and more customers to her surprise – and also delight. She was even receiving custom orders, which meant more and more late nights spent casting and brewing.
The other night, Cassian had even found her passed out on top of her workshop table.
But now, Y/N was surprised to see a familiar redhead standing before her.
“Lucien!” she greeted cheerfully, trying not to immediately think of her conversation with Feyre about his failed bonding with Elain.
“Change your mind about that love potion?” She took a risk, teasing him on such a subject.
But to her relief, Lucien laughed. “No. Not yet, at least. I came to thank you for your…”
“Merchandise?” Y/N offered innocently.
Lucien smiled so charmingly that it was hard to believe someone like Elain wouldn’t at least give this male a chance.
Y/N crossed her arms and tilted her head to the side. “And it worked?”
But she knew her magic wouldn’t fail.
Lucien blushed and nodded. “I can’t explain it entirely. But I…felt so much lighter. I haven’t slept that well in a century.”
She smirked proudly and even stood straighter. “If you have trouble with sleeping, you should have told me. I have dozens of remedies for that.”
“Now you are just boasting.”
Y/N shrunk at such a comment, “I do not mean to, I promise.”
Lucien gave her a soft smile.
“I did not expect to see you back so soon,” Y/N changed the subject. “Feyre says Rhysand keeps you quite busy as an emissary of this court…”
“Yes. He’s kept me very busy. But I spend a lot of time in the mortal realm with a couple of friends. And one of them wished to try some of your merchandise, as well.”
“Friends?” Y/N questioned.
She didn’t know why the word sounded so unusual to her. But she had blurted it out nonetheless.
Lucien huffed out a laugh. “Yes, is it so surprising that I have them?”
“N-No! No, I’m sorry. I just…” But she couldn’t explain her response.
Perhaps because this was the first time she felt like she had them herself. Her coven was her family before all else. But having been on the run the past years, alone, and constantly needing to just survive, friends were not a privilege she was allowed.
But isn’t that what she had gained in the Night Court? Hadn’t Rhysand’s inner circle become her friends, too? And the Valkyrie’s… hadn’t they become even closer than friends?
Y/N blinked, and then forced a small smile. “W-What would your friend be interested in trying?”
Lucien’s amusement disappeared as he clearly caught Y/N getting lost in her own mind.
“My friend has been…cursed.”
Y/N opened her mouth.
“I am not asking if you can break it,” Lucien stopped her from interrupting. “The one who punished her is far more powerful than any High Fae. He is a death-lord.”
Y/N had heard whisperings of death-lords from the wind. She didn't know much about them. Only that of how powerful they were.
He took in a shallow breath. “She is forced into the form of a firebird during the day, only to return to her mortal form at night. And she experiences…pain after the transformation.”
Y/N gave a confident nod. “Anything else?”
“She doesn’t allow herself to sleep in her human form, saving it for when she is a firebird. Coffee nor tea is not strong enough to keep her up the way she wishes to.”
Y/N nodded again. “I can help with both.”
Then she was off, bustling about her shop to prepare what was needed.
Lucien watched her with both admiration and amusement. There was still so much he wanted to know about this woman.
Why had his brother saved her? Yes, she was beautiful. Anyone could see that, even feel it. Surely there was more to it than that. Or perhaps Eris had become so lonely that saving a damsel in distress felt rebellious and reckless.
“Has my brother visited since he brought you here?”
Lucien caught how her movements stopped for a moment from the question.
“Only once. After I was attacked.”
Lucien’s eyebrows rose a second. “Rhysand told me of the attempted kidnapping of Nyx. He also said you saved his life, most likely. How could Eris have known you were injured?”
Y/N shrugged. “I-I-I don’t believe that was why he had even come…” She shook her head. “I just figured he had business with the court.”
Lucien suddenly realized that Y/N hadn’t considered that perhaps Eris had come because she had been hurt.
Which just made Lucien have 20 more questions: Why would Rhysand tell Eris that Y/N had been hurt? And why would Eris care enough to see for himself that Y/N was alright?
Y/N had already returned to moving about her shop. At one point, he heard her mutter something while weaving and knotting a leather bracelet.
A few moments later, Y/N returned to him with a woven basket filled with various objects. And gently placed it in Lucien’s arms.
“This,” Y/N lifted a bright orange candle. “Tell her to light it as soon as she has returned to her human form. But it must be lit by only her, and with intention.”
She picked up an orange and golden gemstone that was attached to a gold necklace chain. “This is citrine. She should wear it throughout the night. It will shake off any grogginess and keep her alert.”
Then she pointed to a green gemstone, but this was too big to be jewelry. “This is malachite. After lighting the candle, she should rub this across her skin, focusing on the bottoms of her feet.”
Lucien nodded, trying to memorize the instructions carefully.
Y/N picked up the bracelet that he had heard her reciting an incantation over. “This bracelet will soothe any pain she has. But she should only wear it when experiencing it, not at all times.”
She grabbed a jar that was filled with what appeared to be various herbs. “When the pain is very bad, mix two spoonfuls of this mixture to brew tea. It’s capsaicin, cloves, ginger, turmeric, and rosemary – all will soothe her aches and pains.”
And before Lucien could thank her or ask any questions, Y/N unfolded a piece of paper that he hadn’t seen in the basket. “I’ve written down all the instructions here, as well.”
“Didn’t trust me to remember it all?” Lucien teased.
Y/N smirked. “I don’t trust males to do many things.”
“You wound me.” He looked down at the basket in his hands. “What do I owe you? I refuse to take any gifts from you again.”
Y/N sighed, but gave him a number to pay.
Lucien didn’t so much as blink at that price, so he must not be short on currency.
As she moved them to the register, Lucien cleared his throat as if trying to get the courage to ask something.
“Would you join me for dinner tonight?” He asked.
Y/N was so taken aback by the question that her head snapped up to meet his gaze, half expecting to see an expression that showed he was messing with her.
Her mouth opened and closed a couple times before she finally got her thoughts in order.
“That is very kind, b-but…” She closed her eyes for a moment and took in a shaky breath. “With Elain…I-I-I don’t think it is…appropriate.”
Lucien hid his disappointment well. “Not even as friends?”
Y/N narrowed her eyes at the cheekiness of it all. “And is that what everyone else in Velaris would perceive if they saw the two of together?”
They both knew she was right.
But Y/N also had no intention of getting between two fated mates – even if one of them refused to acknowledge their magical bond.
“We are all going out dancing tonight,” Y/N quickly added, as if it would soften the blow of turning down his dinner invitation. “You should join us.”
Lucien was quiet for a moment, truly contemplating the invite. After a moment, he hesitated before finally giving a short nod.
The ease at which he accepted made Y/N wonder if his dinner invite was merely out of loneliness and not actual romantic interest.
“R-Really?” Y/N asked excitedly. "It’s called Rita’s – or so I am told.”
He nodded, “I know it.”
“If you wait an hour or so, I will be closing and we could go together. I’m meeting them there, it’s not a far walk.”
But Lucien shook his head. “I must drop these off at my apartment, and then run some errands. But I will see you there.”
And he was walking out of the shop.
Y/N didn’t truly believe Lucien would show up. But if he did, she hadn’t even considered that any of her friends would be upset that Lucien was invited in the first place. Elain wasn’t exactly one to go to the taverns and drink. But maybe tonight she would.
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Feyre walked into Rhysand’s office with a nervous expression.
Nyx sat on her hip as he was held and a bright smile appeared on the toddler's face when he caught sight of his father.
“Lucien is here,” Feyre quickly shared. “Says he wishes to speak to both of us.”
Rhys nodded and stood up, gently taking their son from her.
Feyre led them to the den, where their guest patiently waited for them.
Lucien’s arms were crossed and he wore a deep frown as he looked into the crackling and blazing fireplace.
“Lucien,” Rhysand greeted formally.
Nyx cooed in his arms.
Lucien turned and gave a slight bow of his head to both of them. “I come with a request.”
“And what is this request?” Rhysand continued.
“I wish for you to send a letter to my brother, Eris. I need to meet with him, and I do not have the same methods of contacting him while he is in Autumn Court.”
Feyre and Rhysand didn’t look at each other, but shared similar thoughts in their minds.
“What is this about?” Feyre questioned harshly.
“The mortal witch you are harboring in this court. I know that Eris saved her life and brought her here. But no one will tell me why. And it seems Y/N is being kept in the dark and is not fully aware of how peculiar her situation is.”
Rhysand ignored the accusatory tone and asked, “Where do you wish to meet him?”
Lucien has probably already assumed correctly, Feyre told Rhysand through their bond. Is this smart?
Rhysand answered, We cannot tell him the truth. Whether or not Eris wants his brother to know of his secret is up to him. Let him tell his story.
“The Band of Exiles manor,” Lucien answered.
Feyre rolled her eyes at the name of the dwelling.
“I will send him a message tonight then,” Rhysand told him. “Telling him to meet you there tomorrow as dusk.”
Lucien nodded, but still narrowed his gaze at the two of them. “I am an emissary to your court, but you still would not trust me with this?”
“Your brother asked us to keep Y/N safe. That is all,” Rhysand shrugged.
“All of us know Eris is not a merciful male,” Lucien growled. "He has nearly killed almost every member of your Inner Circle, including your own mate. Yet you protect someone upon his request.”
“Perhaps we do not know Eris as well as we once thought,” Feyre surprised them all by pointing out.
Lucien had nothing to say to that, then looked at Rhysand. “Just get him the message, please.”
He started to leave the room, but paused. “Will Elain be going out with you tonight?”
Feyre squinted in confusion. “No, why?”
Lucien only half-turned to face them. “Y/N invited me to join all of you tonight. If it will be uncomfortable for me to attend, I understand.”
“You are welcome, Lucien.” Rhysand answered before Feyre could. “You are an emissary of this court, as you said.”
Lucien nearly rolled his eyes and huffed, “Yes, but only an emissary and nothing more. That has always been made very clear.”
Then he pulled a pouch from the inside pocket of his jacket. “These are for Elain,” and placed them on the nearest surface.
And with that, he left.
Once he was gone, Y/N picked up the pouch to see that they were seeds.
Feyre gave Rhysand a sad look. “What would you have done had this been us?”
Her mate seemed to hold Nyx even closer. “I do not like to think about what could have been when it comes to us, Feyre Darling.”
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chapter x
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mischaracterization of feyre archeron
by the whole entirety of acotar fandom
feyre archeron decided on her own to go in the woods and learn how to hunt. she assessed her family's situation, the state and skills of her family members and her own skills, after that she came to conclusion that she was the best option. and she was right. because she is fucking smart. so for the love of God, let's stop acting like she was forced by her sisters (read Nesta) into doing that. she's a good person and fucking analytical genius.
saying that she was forced is disrespectful to her character. it's giving credit to nesta for something she wouldn't even consider a possibility. like I love nesta(that's my wife), but in no universe she would see a hunting as potential survival strategy. they were all girls so in nesta's eyes their only way to secure wealth is to be wed. but feyre wasn't brainwashed by their mother and saw what needs to be done and who is the most suited for it.
yall want to make her this martyr and a victim, but trust me her family situation is nothing compared to being abducted and forced to live with deadly beasts (read Fae), then being tortured, hunted for sport and LITERALLY killed. she earned her martyrhood right then and there.
also let me say this once, she wasn't abused by her older sister, she was the sole provider for said sister. if anything she held all the power in that shack. we cannot understand the complexity of their sisterhood, because we've been in the shack for few pages. it's impossible. "nesta and elain should be thankful." girl stfu and eat your food. what feyre did was incredible and im telling you right now if you think she did it because she wanted gratitude read those books again. the way they react to their circumstances is valid and feyre doesn't hold it against them. unlike other characters(read the IC).
frankly I do belive that this general consensus about feyre's character being victim of her family is caused by the IC and their treatment of the sisters (who would've thought!!). they see that feyre is traumatized but cannot talk about what she went through UTM. because by talking about it, rhysand wouldn't be a saint. so they don't talk about it. and feyre is traumatized and isn't ready to face that. the trauma is still there and now they need something else to blame. so nesta and elain get the short end of the stick.
also the fact some of you freaks love to self-insert into her isn't helping. leave my daughter alone, thx.
feyre archeron is a genius woman. she isn't always victim of her circumstances. by enforcing certain narratives yall are discrediting her and it needs to stop.
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My best case scenario for the next ACOTAR book is Elain and Gwyn finding out about the middle school bullshit Azriel unwittingly pulled with that necklace and side together to confront him
This whole storm in a teacup we've all been brewing in could be deflected in a single chapter. I don't even want outrage and flaring tempers; I want sisterhood, I want feminine solidarity.
I want Elain to look at him and be like, "Damn, I love you but you're dumb sometimes."
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Each time someone cherry picks from the book to label Nesta as an abuser w/o doing their research or having witnessed or experienced abuse themselves, an angel dies.
Abuse and dv takes many forms and if u relate to Feyre and her relationship w Nesta reminds u of a horrible relationship you had, more power to you I can’t take that away from you.
That being said, as someone who’s experienced abuse, it makes me so angry whenever I see takes like this. If someone is mean and snarky that does not mean they are abusive! If two sisters bicker that does not mean they have an abusive relationship! If there were cannon scenes of Nesta being an abuser I would have never related to her In the first place (especially bc I started reading the books to escape the utter shit me and my family were being dragged through).
Her behavior in the cottage is horrible but that was in reaction to sudden poverty and having a deadbeat father (explanation, not excuse). What we see at the beginning of acotar is not an abusive dynamic between Feyre and Nesta, it is a sisterhood barely surviving bc of the situation around them. Sjm even spells it out herself in acosf:
“Perhaps it wasn’t just her and Feyre, then. Perhaps all sisters had difficulties, fights, chasms between them. She wasn’t perfect, but … neither was Feyre. They had both made mistakes. And both had long, long lives ahead of them. What had occurred in the past did not have to dictate the future.”
Give it up already.
But if you don’t, keep that same energy towards your favorite male characters.
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I have been sort of sitting on this subject because it would be so easy for it to get taken out of context. I hope I can explain myself so that doesn’t happen and I’d like to hear your thoughts. Basically I feel like part of what made Feyre’s character special is what makes her beautiful and I think it gets lost between all the sister anti bs arguments. I do think everyone is allowed to imagine all the characters however they want but I feel like if you go by canon what makes Feyre different that her sisters beauty is her personality. I find it a bit bothersome when I see takes like -certain archeron sister is the prettiest- because canon, physically, Elain is beautiful and Nesta is stunning but what sets Feyre apart is that those that fell into an attraction for her was only after having gotten to know her. I notice Nesta and Elain have this attraction from males almost at first sight and so I think the part that Feyre doesn’t get this sort of story line was what made her unique and I really liked that. In my opinion I think all 3 sisters are attractive in their respective ways- Elain an innocent pure sort of beauty, Nesta has sexy and angry, while Feyre has a mature and quiet beauty. The last part is my opinion, everyone can imagine them how ever but I do think canon sort of gave me the impression about what stands out about Feyre and I feel like it gets lost in the whole mess that is pitting the sisters against each other that is this fandom
hello, anon! sorry for taking so long to respond to this.
this was a very sweet ask! i can see what you mean about feyre being unique in her own ways. personally, i have a preference for the person feyre was in the first book, but i can totally understand you, and many others, enjoying the character she became post-acotar. i love who nesta is as a character because i feel i relate to her more than the others, but feyre's willingness and bravery to stand up for what she believed in, in book 1 was something i admired about her character. and elain's gentle demeanor and clear progression as a character by the time we reach book 2 is something i hope is expanded on more.
i would love if you'd elaborate a bit more on your point of view, as well as if this ask if targeted at a specific post of mine (?) because i'm not exactly an account that's very pro feyre (though i don't hold anything against people who do like her). do you think that i'm a part of the group that fans the flames of the competition between the sisters? in fairness, i can see how my posts could be interpreted that way.
anyway, on some level, i do agree that this fandom has a tendency to vilify and pit the sisters against each other for the sake of their faves. i have seen some absolutely horrid takes on all sides of the aisle, justifying things their fav sister has done and putting down the other sisters in favor of blatantly flat characterizations of them in order to make their anger seem more justified.
but i also think this is a symptom of canon itself being willing to pit them against each other, rather than portraying their flaws and complex relationships in a manner that gives a clear impression that none of them are all good or all bad, but rather flawed and interesting individuals. instead of creating a poignant story on the power of sisterhood, sjm decided it would be better to pit them against each other. this isn't necessarily a bad thing. of all the people in the world, i am the last one that is opposed to drama in books lol, but the way it was done has made things... complicated.
all in all, i think the process of pitting the sisters against each other is a very mixed bag because, on one hand, the archeron sisters' being in constant competition with each other in the fandom is partially due to fans of the specific sisters, but it's also due to the inability of canon to portray a complicated dynamic between them. also, their characterizations can be all over the place. i don't think the feyre we saw in book 1 would've allowed what happened to nesta in book 3, nor would she have condoned the treatment of her sisters even as early as book 2. this could be credited to her evolution as a character, perhaps growing in confidence and vilifying her sisters because of it, but i don't see the sister who felt guilty about leaving them behind when she was forcefully taken from her home as the same sister that let the blatant disrespect of them stretch on from book 2 through book 5. this isn't just with feyre though, as i think the characterization of nesta and elain is also quite finicky and so up to interpretation by the fans.
#anti sjm#sjm critical#anti feyre#this isn't really a critique of feyre#more so of how her character was written#but im going to tag it just in case#astrababyy#astrababyy asks#i'm very curious about this ask because i don't think i've written many posts on feyre that are super supportive of her#i've gotten angry in the past about how her character was ruined#but never really defended her specifically#so if the person who sent this ask ever sees this post#i'd love if they could send another one in clarifying why they sent me specifically this ask#as well as expand on their position a bit more because i find it to be a criminally underrated one in this fandom!
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First, I just wanna say I love all your Elucien posts! ❤️
How do you think SJM will tie in Feyre and Rhysand (and even the IC) into Elucien’s story/book? We all saw how she did it with Nessian and how some people were salty 🙄 and felt like there was too much of Feysand in SF and that their plot line was still the driving factor of the story (they rule the NC you guys! Of course they’re gonna be a big factor! And SJM loves Feysand, you can cry about it, but that won’t change!). I think Elucien’s story will happen outside of the NC so even more interesting to see what role Feysand could play. A part of me just wants Feyre and Lucien to get a proper bestfriendship again. Heh. And for Feyre and Elain to have a better or maybe more involved healing journey for their sisterhood than Nesta did.
And to add to that, do you think SJM will put Elucien and Gwynriel’s story in one book (aka ACOTAR 5)? Because then that would leave SJM with one final book that has a POV from all the main characters a la Kingdom of Ash. Oh and rumor has it, Mor is getting a novella 🤷♀️ anyway, I just can’t imagine SJM finishing the entire ACOTAR series without making Feyre (and even Rhys) as a POV character again. What do you think?
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PS. I like how I talk as if I know that Elucien and Gwynriel will for sure happen 😂
Thank you!!!
And you and me both (as far as talking as if Elucien and Gwynriel are endgame)😂
Personally I don't think she'll combine Elucien and Gwynriel into one book for a few reasons. The first is that in a podcast she confirmed that the spin-off series would follow a new pairing in each book. As we got Nessian that means Elucien would also have their own book as well as Gwynriel. I could see the novella being given to Mor as well as a few other side characters such as Eris, Vassa and Jurian, and possibly a chapter or two given to each of the sisters and their Mates. I'm almost certain SJM did say Rhys and Feyre's POV are pretty much finished though they'll continue being a part of the series overall. The second is both couples have a lot of ground to cover all on their own. I'm less comfortable with predicting what a Gwynriel plot will look like (though I have a few ideas) but Elucien needs to tackle not one but two characters discovering unknown powers, dealing with their Mating Bond, Lucien discovering his real father and possibly visiting the Day Court, his making amends (to some degree) with Eris and Tamlin, and possible stories (based on what I think are hints) involving them restoring Spring and helping free Vassa from Koschei, and Elain's found friends being further explored. I don't think she'll train in the way Feyre and Nesta did but I could see her learning some general self defense. SJM will also have to decide where Elain and Lucien will be living. With Nessian, we only had one character really learning about their powers, no "real father reveal", dealing with their Mating Bond and Nesta's strained relationship with Feyre and Amren, and it all took place in the NC except for a quick visit to Spring and the Human Lands. Nesta did train and meet her friends which was a huge part of her story, but we already knew the NC would end up being her home. That's not to say Nesta's story wasn't interesting, it's just that there were less loose threads that needed tied up in her book compared to what is still outstanding for an Elucien book.
I definitely think Rhys and Feyre will have some on page time in an Elucien book simply because Lucien is still reporting back to them regarding Spring and even though these are standalone books, they're all leading to a final conclusion. But while Elain might have certain things to address with Nesta and Feyre, she doesn't seem to have the deep seeded animosity towards Feyre that Nesta did so I don't think that will be a huge part of the story in the way Nesta's was (I also think we’ll see everyone in the IC finally respecting Lucien at the end of it. Rhys has been coming around but both Cassian and Az are offish towards him at times). I really do think an Elucien book will give us a chance to further explore the rest of the ACOTAR world (sort of how TOD took us away from Aelin and Rowan before the final book of the series to visit places the characters hadn't been) where we've only had small glimpses until now. I think Feysand will play the smallest role in their book than any of the others. Which is why I could see Gwynriel being the last one. We know an Az story will heavily feature the IC and I think it would make a lot of sense for SJM to bring it back to Feysand, Nessian, etc everyone in Gwynriel's book since that will maybe build up to main battle. As much as a Gwynriel book will feature Az and Gwyn as the main characters and dual POV, as High Lord and High Lady of the NC Rhys and Feyre will need to be heavily involved in what they’re doing as it relates to the war. And as true warriors, it would make more sense for the war to occur from their POV than say Lucien and Elain who will fight when necessary but don’t embrace that role.
I realize my opinion on this is in the minority though as a lot of people feel Gwynriel is next.
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Have you done or thought about the role of the priestesses in ACOTAR?
Rhys says they are supposed to be good but there are bad ones. Ianthe is a perfect example.
They were kinda obsessed with blood lines, do you think they had anything to do with creation of the Archeron sisters? The reason I say this is because there is a mention of the Archeron sister ancestry at the beginning of the novels.
I feel like everyone is disregarding this group and I just don’t understand why they can’t leave the sisterhood especially if something terrible happened to them.
hellooo.
@offtorivendell and I talked about it before but I haven't thought much about it other than that and our talks were more like her telling me stuff and me being amazed by the connections she'd found lol.
but as you pointed out ianthe was bad and for the question of archerons turning fae...ianthe sold them out to hybern so they have a hand in it. could there be more reason for turning them? maybe but I don't know what.
and I don't remember anything about can't leave the sisterhood thing.
tbh I didn't thought much about them. but they seem so sus to me. everything about them is sus. so we will see if there is more about them. especially we know now that high priestess oleanna dipped gwydion into the cauldron. maybe that will open us a path to learn more about them.
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when people attack feyre, they usually go for her sex life by slut shaming her.
when people attack elain, they go for her quiet personality/hobbies and conclude that she is boring. or they target her trauma response, concluding that she is “useless”
when people attack nesta they go for her trauma response being anger and rage and venom at her situation.
have u considered that they’re sisters and sisters are sometimes the worst to each other. it’s not all sunshine and roses. nobody cuts me as deeply as my sister does. but nobody makes me laugh as hard as my sister does. nobody is in my corner against people who actually do hurt me than her. it is the same for them.
what we’ve had in acosf is nesta healing and understanding feyre more, after the gap in their relationship from their poverty. same as elain & feyre during the main acotar books (who’s forgiven much quicker because obvs her trauma response is just shutting down and she never got particularly nasty with feyre).
sisterhood is so fucking complicated, familial relationships are complicated and i adore every single one of the archeron sisters for what they represent and the trauma responses they show (feyre’s being a blend of both minus the cruel words).
i think a lot of people need to reread acotar from start to finish and THEN read acosf. because some of u have so blatantly only read acosf it’s embarrassing on ur end.
nesta is complex. feyre is complex. elain is, also, complex. their bond is complex, that is what being family is. experiencing hardships and still being in each other’s corners. which elain & feyre both are for nesta in acosf
i adore the archeron sisters because they’re so complex. they’re real examples of what sisterhood is actually like. sometimes i’m her biggest protector, sometimes we argue and have the worst screaming matches you’ve ever heard. at the end of the day, i know she’s in my corner and the same can be said for the archeron sisters. no matter what.
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(Sorry to ramble) like once I saw a post on tumblr that pointed out that we don’t even know the Lady of Autumn’s name, or any of the batboys’ mothers, and we don’t know Rhys’s sister’s name (perhaps intentional but still). Lots of characters remain nameless, and a lot of the inner conflict that exists is female on female. we’re told amren and Mor had a serious falling out off page pre acotar, there‘a the archeron sister conflict, then Amren and Nesta fight, nesta and Mor also have a weird dislike for each other, etc. I just think wouldn’t it make more sense to make amren and Mor v good friends given their positions and immortality? Or have more of a sense of sisterhood between these women? Or to let acosf be about Nesta getting closer to her biological sisters? Or can we at least have names for all these mother characters instead of only knowing them through their respective male characters (sons/husbands). We don’t see any level of this cattiness or lack of brotherhood in any of the male characters. I think sjm has some internalized misogyny 😅😅
LITERALLY THE female on female bullshit is insane!
I don't really know what else to say about this because you've summed it up perfectly in my opinion.
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A Court of Silver Flames by Sarah J. Maas
My rating: 5 of 5 stars
Hold me while I cry.
HOW is it that sometimes you struggle on a 300pages book but somehow SJM's 800 pages behemoths always go too quickly?
Remember when I said ACOTAR was my least favorite series of hers? Well, I've got news for you XD No, but seriously this one was my favorite in the series. Obviously, it helps that we switched to a third person pov that allows for multiple povs (because let's face it ACOMAF and a ACORAW suffered from Hunger Games syndrome at some points, being stuck to Feyre's pov) and it also more than helps that this book features my two favorite characters as main. The best part though? This book was EVERYTHING I wanted for Cassian and Nesta. The character development? Beautiful. The way SJM writes trauma? Perfect. The romance? Swoon worthy.
So sure, the main plot in this book isn't socks rocking (and by that I mean the plot of the grander scheme of things) but I think this books clearly lays down foundations for what will come after that. More than anything else, this book is a journey of healing and I'm so down for it.
ALSO the sisterhood. You know how my favorite thing in TOG was the Thirteen and how I just loved Danika and Brice in CC... Well... THE VALKYRIES. Enough said. I just love the friendship, the sisterhood, the found family trope... I love Emery and I love Gwyn and I can't wait to see them again in future books.
This book honestly went too fast for me. I didn't see the pages go and now I'm upset because as soon as I read HOSAB I will be caught up with all SJM series and WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY LIFE????
(write or read nesta and cassian fanfictions most likely)
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