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leedangryu · 3 months

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May all blessings find their way to you, I'm wishing it🖤🎉

生まれた祝福をあなたへ

#14 days with you #14dwy redacted #14dwy #おめでと私のご主人様!#Happy birthday ren-ren and red

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plague-of-insomnia · 6 months

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What’s In A Title?: Variations on “Master” in Black Butler

旦那様・当主・ご主人様・マイロード・様・坊ちゃん

Throughout the manga, we see various titles used for Vincent, Real Ciel, and Our Ciel, with these being more obvious in the original Japanese than in translation.

This post will focus on Sebastian and Tanaka and the various terms they use at different points within the story.

I personally am not an expert on keigo (the most formalized of speech that Sebastian speaks almost exclusively in in Japanese), so I am not really going to be going into the subtleties there. (Other posts have tackled this already, and probably with more expertise than I could.)

I also want to emphasize I am only now beginning to read the manga from ch 1 in Japanese (I’ve only read bits and pieces until the most recent ~25 chapters or so), so it is possible I am missing some examples or variations mentioned in other parts of the 200+ chapters not brought up here.

However, I think we can still look at these subtle differences even if you are an English speaker who knows zero about formality levels/humble speech in Japanese. And if you’re willing to take this journey with me despite these caveats, keep reading.

旦那様・当主・ご主人様・マイロード・様・坊ちゃん

Before I get into the variations between Sebastian and Tanaka, let’s look at some of the titles used:

The variations are as follows:

Dannasama - 旦那様

Toushu - 当主

Shujin - 主人

Goshujinsama - ご主人様

“my lord” - ご主人様・マイロード

Lord Ciel - シエル様

Bocchan - 坊ちゃん

Tanaka

Tanaka uses #1, #2, #3, #6, and #7. Let’s look at him first.

Dannasama - 旦那様

Means “master of the house,” but is also a term you’d use with a boss or someone of higher status, akin to “sir” in some usages in English.

Tanaka uses this term only for Vincent, so far as I know.

Toushu - 当主

Means “present head of the family.”

Tanaka uses this when speaking about/to Our Ciel when distinguishing him from his father, the previous head. For example, in the murder arc when he points out that it isn’t appropriate for the master of the house to be upset by a servant’s death.

Shujin - 主人

Means “head of the household” or “master” (among other uses). This version does not have the added formality/humbleness of the versions that Sebastian uses (the go- prefix and the -sama suffix).

Tanaka uses this when speaking generally about “the master” or “one’s master,” for example, in the end of the murder arc when he tells Sebastian a Phantomhive butler shouldn’t die before his master.

Lord Ciel - シエル様

Just Ciel + the kanji for “sama,” is how Tanaka refers exclusively to Real Ciel throughout the manga, to the best of my knowledge, when speaking to or of him specifically, individually.

Above, we see how in the example on the right (in the present), Tanaka calls RC “Lord Ciel” directly, and in the example on the left, how he refers to him that way in the past as well when not directly addressing him. (OC is “you” or 貴方 there.)

Bocchan - 坊ちゃん

Means “young master,” and is how Tanaka refers to Our Ciel almost exclusively (except for the examples above), not only before the tragedy but after. He immediately knew that Ciel was OC and not his twin, and we know this because of the address.

Sebastian seems to have picked up the title from Tanaka, because he does not use it before they see him. Above, he even puts special emphasis on the title when he uses it for the first time. And as far as I know, aside from “my lord,” he refers to Ciel as such exclusively thereafter.

旦那様・当主・ご主人様・マイロード・様・坊ちゃん

Sebastian

Sebastian uses #4, #5, and #7.

Goshujinsama - ご主人様

Means “head of the household” or “master” (among other uses). This version does include the formal/humble prefix “go-” and suffix “-sama.”

This is the first term that Sebastian uses for Ciel when he shifts from “you” (貴方, anata) to “master,” when they first begin establishing the contract. He also uses a variation on this I’ll explain next, but THIS version, said exactly like this, he stops using after their visit to Tanaka.

You can see in the above examples that he uses this address both before and after he assumes his butler form.

I expect that this is likely how Sebastian has referred to all his masters as I believe it’s the most humble/formal way of addressing one’s master (aside from more specific titles that may be used).

My Lord - ご主人様・マイロード

Even before he adopts “bocchan,” Sebastian sometimes refers to Ciel in English as “my lord,” as Yana informs us via the katakana spelling on the kanji. Yet she still writes it in keigo, as if to reminds us of the manner in which Sebastian speaks, and that even if he has dropped the uber formal “goshujinsama,” he is, in a sense, still using it throughout the story.

Bocchan - 坊ちゃん

As I explained above, this seems to be a manner of address Sebastian picks up from Tanaka. It seems to imply that he does so partly because he recognizes that the old man is aware of Ciel’s real identity (unlike Madam Red, who assumes he’s RC, which is why Ciel looks so dead-eyed while Sebastian is smirking).

Maybe he does it to mock him at first, a reminder that Sebastian knows he’s a liar. Maybe he adopts it because he’s never had a young master before and decides it could be a fun change of pace.

Unless Yana says something or reveals more insight into Sebastian’s POV, however, we may never know exactly why he made this shift and stuck with it.

旦那様・当主・ご主人様・マイロード・様・坊ちゃん

And that’s my rundown of how “master” is used in Japanese by Sebastian and Tanaka, depending on who they’re addressing or referring to and at what point we are in the story. As you can see, most of it is lost in translation.

If you enjoyed this post, you may like to check out some of my other kuro translation posts, including my pronoun series, in which I explain why various characters use certain personal pronouns.

Reblogs and tips are also always appreciated!

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imiteeshon · 8 months

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kaoruichinose · 1 year

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#kaoru ichinose #ichinose kaoru #一ノ瀬かおる #moyomoyo kurusu #kurusu moyomoyo #来栖もよもよ #stealth reijyo no renai jijyo.#stealth reijyo no renai jijyo #ステルス令嬢の恋愛事情ご主人様の秘密を知ってしまったら溺愛されまして!?#ステルス令嬢の恋愛事情ご主人様の秘密を知ってしまったら溺愛されまして

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sesameandsalt · 10 months

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#youtube #へへへ…流れ着いてました…🚣⚾️今生まれて初めて野球漫画（WBCの大谷君主役の）描いててﾕﾆﾌｫｰﾑのｼﾜと防具（道具）の省略の仕方とか勉強になっとりやす😂#う、嬉しい、実は、わたくしも、近藤選手🦊大好きで…（ちばあきおの漫画感とクリリン感がたまらんて）#野球漫画読んで下さる皆さま🙏とても優しく生きがいです #たまに「近ちゃんでずっぱり、他の選手も見たい」と言われてそれでも近ちゃんを出し続ける近ちゃん大好きマンこと私です #漫画を描くにあたりブックマークした写真大谷近藤コンビ一番多いですだって観てるだけで幸せになる… リヴァエレだったんか…！！#クリリンかと思ってたのに確かに栗山監督ジーク、大谷君エレン（栗谷ｸｻｳﾞｧｰｼﾞｰｸみもあるが）二人のヤバさを苦々しくでもきっと一番分かってる人間 #近ちゃんリヴァイは頷ける！！ WBCで分かったのは大谷君がいかに近ちゃんが好きか栗山監督と近ちゃんと野球出来て嬉しいってデカいからだで表現しまくってて #昔近ちゃんが面倒見てた、仔犬がものすごくでかくなって🐻🐺熊犬になって帰ってきた感もたまらんです WBC優勝は近ちゃんなくしてはあり得なかった #来られなかった選手がいかに凄くても野球の神様は栗山監督を通じて大谷君の為に近ちゃんを選びました（大谷君は近ちゃんの実家にはピンでも泊まるし）#色々恵まれてもいると思うし、愉しい事も嬉しい事もたくさんあるのだけど、それでもたまに何が愉しくて生きているのだろう？#と思う瞬間もある、しかし… POBIちゃまがこのような事を言うことがあるから人生やめらんねえすわ！無茶苦茶うれしい、#はじめてPOBIちゃまと完全一致同担と化したてこと?! 🥹 💖💖💖💖 同担拒否らないでほぢ！！

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mangatime-kirara · 1 year

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12/26発売『私、異世界で奴隷にされちゃいました（泣）しかもご主人様は性格の悪いエルフの女王様！（でも超美人←ここ大事）無能すぎて罵られまくるけど同僚のオークが癒やし系だし里のエルフは可愛いし結構楽しんでる私です。』#わいどす 1巻をチラ見せ🍑#いいお尻の日試読 https://t.co/rVuLwXg30O https://t.co/cnPcopruSy Source: https://pic.twitter.com/cnPcopruSy

#manga #manga time kirara #まんがタイムきらら #私、異世界で奴隷にされちゃいました（泣）しかもご主人様は性格の悪いエルフの女王様！（でも超美人←ここ大事）無能すぎて罵られまくるけど同僚のオークが癒やし系だし里のエル

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findareading · 10 months

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ここは駅前の駐輪場だ。早めの食事を済ませてここに来た。ハギトはゴトに挨拶すると、駐輪場の柵にもたれて文庫本を読んでいたのだ。文吾から「これを読みなさい」と渡された泉鏡花の短編集だ。

牧野修著『犬は書店で謎を解く　ご主人様はワンコなのです』（2016年6月Kindle版、メディアワークス文庫）

#牧野修 #犬は書店で謎を解く　ご主人様はワンコなのです #メディアワークス文庫 #読書 #読書する人 #読書環境

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gansilverart · 11 months

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YouTube世界に一つのシルバーアート【gansilverart】

Robot Animation『お帰りなさいませご主人様』

帰ったらこんなのがいたら

貴方はどうします？

▽作品に関してはこちら

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▽その他の動画はこちら

YouTube世界に一つのシルバーアート【gansilverart】

#帰ったら #こんなのが #居たらどうなる #お帰りなさいませご主人様 #お帰りなさい #お帰りなさいませ #メイド #出迎え #お出迎え #youtube #silverart #robotanimation #stopmotionanimation #ストップモーション #コマ撮り #learnontiktok #learnwithtiktok #oneworkintheworld #youtubeshorts

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nukunukusirokuma · 17 days

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「ご主人様、遅いですねえ」/2014

#イラスト #illustration

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yoshinoyuu · 2 years

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ハロウィンでお化けに遭遇した話

去年のハロウィン漫画はこちら👇

🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃

11/27開催コミティアの新刊に収録します

#創作漫画 #ハロウィン #halloween #maid #ご主人様とメイドさん #オリジナル作品 #original #少女漫画 #創作男女 #漫画が読めるハッシュタグ #漫画 #original comic #comitia #comitia142

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rennebright · 13 days

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見てみてご主人様！牛柄ビキニだよっ！✌️ by 風音 [Twitter/X] ※Illustration shared with permission from the artist. If you like this artwork please support the artist by visiting the source.

#ichinose asuna #一之瀬アスナ #asuna #blue archive #ブルーアーカイブ #ブルアカ #kazanewind #cow print #posted art

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moonsinkfoxgirl · 6 months

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-- ご主人様には吸わせません！第５話／ I won't let mistress suck my blood!, Ch.5

#goshujinsama ni wa suwasemasen!#yuri #so cute #the title of this gets funnier every chapter #vampire

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imiteeshon · 8 months

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mangatime-kirara · 1 year

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突然ですが #いいおっぱいの日ということで『私、異世界で奴隷にされちゃいました（泣）しかもご主人様は性格の悪いエルフの女王様！（でも超美人←ここ大事）無能すぎて罵られまくるけど同僚のオークが癒やし系だし里のエルフは可愛いし結構楽しんでる私です。』#わいどすのアルヘナさんをご覧くだ https://t.co/kiKW1GMoM1 Source: https://pic.twitter.com/kiKW1GMoM1

#manga #manga time kirara #まんがタイムきらら #私、異世界で奴隷にされちゃいました（泣）しかもご主人様は性格の悪いエルフの女王様！（でも超美人←ここ大事）無能すぎて罵られまくるけど同僚のオークが癒やし系だし里のエル

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arctic-blade · 2 months

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Roha on X: "またここで会ったね~ご主人様 ! https://t.co/Ip23SFVoLM" / X

#R_o_ha #blue archive

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nukunukusirokuma · 8 months

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「君のご主人様は面白いパンツ履いてるね」/2023

#イラスト #illustration

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