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Musical Aesthetics: Nancy (Oliver!)
"Though it sometimes touches me... For the likes of such as me, mine's a fine, fine life!"
#dream role tbh#Oliver! the Musical#Oliver Twist#lit#mymoodboards#musicals#Broadway#Nancy#Victorian Era#West End#Samantha Barks#Kerry Ellis#Nancy Sikes#Bill Sikes#1800s#1900s#Victorian period#Victorian London#Me relating too much to another bubbly & rebellious character who deals with abuse & has a heart too big for her body? Ya don't say#💀💀💀#Charles Dickens#Dickensian#classics#classic novels#social commentary#literature#fave#reminders#myboards
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Oliver: Reincarnation AU art dump!
#darbi's art#oliver & company#art#my art#oliver and company#ocs#oc x canon#fagin#bill sikes#bill sykes#nancy sikes#nancy oliver twist#oliver: reincarnation au#fagin oliver and company#oliver twist
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I don't know why I spent today thinking about your hypothetical sympathetic female Fagin on Once Upon a Time, but what if she were a composite character? There's a big dramatic moment where we find out her first name is...Nancy!
oh, i love it!
i’ve been calling her storybrooke self jenny, as an oliver and company reference, but that would be a fun reveal for her dickensian timeline self. and i think it would be culturally healing for a nancy figure to get to be a funny lady who just happens to have a good heart *and* sticky fingers, instead of too tragic.
also, very funny potential to blend that into her relationship with the kids. she is not *actively* trying to make them criminals, she doesn’t want any of them to get hurt, but...you know, nice things are nice!
actually, her dynamic with oliver would be quite like nancy’s in the book, i imagine - the other kids are tough, they can take care of themselves just like she did when she was their age, so she doesn’t worry about them too much, but oliver is just a sweet baby who never should have been caught up in all this, so she tries to keep the worst away from him.
i do still think she and sikes are better off as toxic frenemies than romantically involved, though. the regina george and gretchen wieners of the victorian underground.
#“i never told anybody that because i am SUCH a good friend!”#- miss nancy fagin immediately after incriminating sikes on approximately seven hundred criminal counts#and that is how he ended up stuck in the oubliette rumpelstiltskin-style.#;ask me your questions and get some answers.
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i really don’t know if i think steve is bones because they did create a whole other character so dustin could go through the losing someone like steve arc without steve actually dying so killing him off one season later would make that pointless and losing both would be a lot for dustin? but also he did make that corny six little nuggets speech
#the internet would've been so annoying if he had died so i'm glad he's still with us#and i don't buy him LOVING nancy again/still AT ALL so him getting over that in the last season isn't like will supposedly having to#get over mike or dying at all to me like if they had steve be like sike! in the first five minutes i would believe him because that's the#level of subtlety with which they brought stncy back in season 4#and like i say: brf slt
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When someone says they don’t like Oliver!
#flower power💐
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Rewatching Oliver! (1968) and I’ll never understand why they cut ‘That’s your Funeral’ but kept ‘Where Is Love’
#Oliver!#oliver twist#Oliver 1968#musical#musicals#oliver musical#artful dodger#bill sikes#Nancy#Fagin#questionable decisions
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There's a little ditty
They're singing in the city
Especially when they've been on the gin
Or the beer
Oom-pah-pah…
Pretty little Sally
Goes walking down the alley
Displays her pretty ankles to all of the men
They could see her garters
But not for free-and-gratis--
An inch or two, and then she knows
When to say when!
OOM-PAH-PAH
That’s how it goes…
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trans masc bill sikes send tweet
#This would actually be#Bad#but implications aside I want his gender#I also want his [redacted]#but obviously he loses me with how he treats Nancy in the second half of the show#which is kind of a big point of the story#Still even when I was little I’d watch the bit where he goes up on the roof with the rope over and over cuz I was like damn 👀#You’re very bad but you’re badass 👀#Teach me pls???#Trans masc bill sikes who’s bastard to the world but sweetheart to his girl#Completely defeats important plot point in the story but you know what?#Nancy is an angel and deserves better and she really deserves like. One version where she gets to live#Don’t mind me I’m just back on my Oliver Reed bullshit again#Not that I really stopped#Oliver!#Oliver Twist
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today’s mystery files makes me wanna rewatch siberia....for like the third time lmao
#rest in peace short lived mystery box show#you were my beloved#would have loved more seasons#that show was fucking insane in the best way#y'all imagine a reality show like survivor in the wilds of russia but SIKE they get stuck and there's Weird shit going on#lots of lost vibes#except i watched this first so i was like 'lots of siberia vibes' when i watched lost lmao#nancy talks
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there has never, in the history of television, been a more chaotic, hilarious, unhinged reveal like the bait and switch of tristan-and-nancy-are-reincarnated-soulmates-SIKE-they're-reincarnated-enemies-and-one-of-them-killed-the-other
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This past Oliver Twist update
Fagin: Has Nancy been poisoning Sikes? Good for her!
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Recent Oliver: Reincarnation AU art !! Woowee
My take on Oliver and Company's Nancy!
Clone High reference with my OCxCanon<33
[Slight blood warning down here sheesh]
My take on Charlotte!!
Kirk and my version of O&C's Bet! (Btw Kirk is not my OC. He belongs to @ronironimakaroni who's account got deactivated due to health problems ToT... Roni, if you're back HI!!! )
Last one- (this was a redraw of Roni's art trade for me, ty again<33)
#darbi's art#art#my art#oliver and company#oliver twist#fagin#bill sykes#bill sikes#oc#oc x canon#nancy#nancy sikes#nancy oliver twist#charlotte#bet#friend's oc
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“Eight o’clock, Bill,” said Nancy, when the bell ceased.
“What’s the good of telling me that; I can hear it, can’t I?” replied Sikes.
“I wonder whether they can hear it,” said Nancy.
“Of course they can,” replied Sikes. “It was Bartlemy time when I was shopped; and there warn’t a penny trumpet in the fair, as I couldn’t hear the squeaking on. Arter I was locked up for the night, the row and din outside made the thundering old jail so silent, that I could almost have beat my brains out against the iron plates of the door.”
“Poor fellow!” said Nancy, who still had her face turned towards the quarter in which the bell had sounded. “Oh, Bill, such fine young chaps as them!”
“Yes; that’s all you women think of,” answered Sikes. “Fine young chaps! Well, they’re as good as dead, so it don’t much matter.”
With this consolation, Mr. Sikes appeared to repress a rising tendency to jealousy, and, clasping Oliver’s wrist more firmly, told him to step out again.
“Wait a minute!” said the girl: “I wouldn’t hurry by, if it was you that was coming out to be hung, the next time eight o’clock struck, Bill. I’d walk round and round the place till I dropped, if the snow was on the ground, and I hadn’t a shawl to cover me.”
“And what good would that do?” inquired the unsentimental Mr. Sikes. “Unless you could pitch over a file and twenty yards of good stout rope, you might as well be walking fifty mile off, or not walking at all, for all the good it would do me. Come on, and don’t stand preaching there.”
The girl burst into a laugh; drew her shawl more closely round her; and they walked away. But Oliver felt her hand tremble, and, looking up in her face as they passed a gas-lamp, saw that it had turned a deadly white.
this scene haunts me. it’s the perfect buildup to nancy almost - but not quite! - going rogue later in the chapter, her despair and horror over the life she leads... and the life that sikes leads, for that matter.
i am always in a state of jury’s still out on how the book version of sikes actually feels about nancy. but i am always surprised to remember that her devotion to him above everything - including her own well-being - was not just an invention of later adaptations to make her more tragic, but is horribly present all through the book.
here is what charlie d. himself had to say about them, in his preface to a later edition in 1867:
It has been observed of Nancy that her devotion to the brutal housebreaker does not seem natural. And it has been objected to Sikes in the same breath- with some inconsistency, as I venture to think- that he is surely overdrawn, because in him there would appear to be none of those redeeming traits which are objected to as unnatural in his mistress. Of the latter objection I will merely remark, that I fear there are in the world some insensible and callous natures that do become utterly and incurably bad. Whether this be so or not, of one thing I am certain: that there are such men as Sikes, who, being closely followed through the same space of time and through the same current of circumstances, would not give, by the action of a moment, the faintest indication of a better nature. Whether every gentler human feeling is dead within such bosoms, or the proper chord to strike has rusted and is hard to find, I do not pretend to know; but that the fact is as I state it, I am sure.
It is useless to discuss whether the conduct and character of the girl seems natural or unnatural, probable or improbable, right or wrong. IT IS TRUE. Every man who has watched these melancholy shades of life, must know it to be so.
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Panel Presentation: Oliver! (1968)
Oliver! is a film adaptation of Charles Dickens' novel "Oliver Twist,”It talks about a story where a young orphan Oliver Twist runs away and meets a group of boys trained to be pickpockets by an elderly mentor in 1830s London after being sold to a mortician. Through its music, the film discusses themes of poverty, class distinction, and the search for belonging. It uses its songs to both advance the narrative and deepen our understanding of the characters' internal and external worlds.
Question 1: What do the musical numbers signify about identity in the course of the film’s narrative?
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"Food, Glorious Food"is the opening musical sequence performed by the workhouse boys in Oliver!. This song shows us how poor and deprived these children are, as they dream of a life that's better than their current one. Their exaggerated dreams about food really stand out against their sad reality, making it clear just how tough their lives are. This moment in the film makes us see these boys as a group that society has left behind.
Question 2: What is the purpose of the songs in the characters’ lives?
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"As Long as He Needs Me” is sung by Nancy. It is a powerful expression of her love and loyalty to Bill Sikes, despite the toxic nature of their relationship. It reveals her complexity as a character which torn between her affection for Sikes and her inherent goodness. Through this song, Nancy communicates her willingness to endure hardship for the sake of love, highlighting her tragic predicament.
Question 3: In what ways are the songs and/or musical performances racialized and/or gendered?
The Role of Women:
The female characters in Oliver! often embody or challenge Victorian gender norms. The portrayal of women through the songs and narrative can reflect broader societal expectations of women's roles as nurturers, caretakers, or figures of moral guidance, as seen with characters like Nancy and Mrs. Bedwin. Their roles and musical numbers can reinforce or subtly question the limited scope of agency afforded to women during the period depicted.
Racial Considerations
Given the setting and historical context of Dickens' "Oliver Twist," the film adaptation does not prominently feature racial diversity or explicitly address racial issues through its songs or characters. The focus is predominantly on class disparity and social injustice within a predominantly white, Victorian London.
Question 4: What elements of the film align with White musicals’ longing to transform the ordinary into utopia?
The musical transform the ordinary into utopia through several key elements.
Firstly, the film follows a classic narrative arc from adversity to resolution, a hallmark of many musicals that align with the longing for utopia. Oliver's journey from the workhouse, through the dangers of Fagin's gang, to finally finding a loving home with Mr. Brownlow, embodies the transformation from a bleak existence to one of security and happiness, mirroring the utopian desire for a better world.
The film's visual design, from the costumes to the sets, plays a significant role in crafting a utopian vision. Even in its depiction of poverty, there's a stylized, almost picturesque quality to the scenes that softens the harshness of the reality they represent.
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Despite the individual struggles of characters like Oliver, Nancy, the film emphasizes themes of community and belonging. Musical numbers such as "Consider Yourself" highlight the importance of social connections and the idea that everyone can find their place in the world, reinforcing the utopian ideal of inclusivity and social harmony.
Question 5: How does the film reflect the temporal circularity of Black musicals?
While Oliver! is a film set within a specific historical period (Victorian England) and primarily reflects the social issues and class struggles of its time, applying the notion of temporal circularity directly to it can be challenging due to its distinct narrative context and cultural background. However, we can explore certain elements of the film that might resonate with or parallel the thematic explorations found in Black musicals, especially in how stories and characters might reflect on broader human conditions and societal cycles.
Oliver! talks about the rigid class structures of Victorian England, showcasing the struggles of the impoverished and the marginalized. This focus can echo the exploration of systemic inequality found in Black musicals, although through the lens of class rather than race. The film's depiction of the underclass's struggles and their aspirations for a better life might parallel themes in Black musicals that address societal obstacles and the pursuit of equality and justice.
Questions for the class:
In Oliver!, how does the portrayal of different social classes, particularly through the mise-en-scène and character interactions in the song "Who Will Buy?", reflect Victorian societal structures and contribute to the film's commentary on social inequality? Compare this representation with critical theories on class and social hierarchy. How does the film use the musical genre to both reinforce and challenge these societal norms?
Analyze how Nancy's character, especially through her performance in "As Long as He Needs Me," embodies and complicates Victorian gender expectations. Considering feminist film theory and the concept of the male gaze, discuss how Nancy's portrayal both conforms to and subverts traditional gender roles. What does this suggest about the film's engagement with contemporary discussions of gender and agency?
Oliver! is an adaptation of Charles Dickens' Oliver Twist. How does the film’s musical format affect the interpretation of the original literary work, particularly in its representation of social injustice and character complexity? Analyze a scene or song that significantly diverges from or closely aligns with the source material. Discuss how these choices in adaptation impact the film's narrative focus and thematic emphasis.
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i'm so curious about people's different takes with the school in s5, because there being a time jump and so on was already pretty clear since last year. but how exactly school will be impacted is SO divisive here. because it'll have to be either:
school is in session as normal in s5/at the start of s5. the rifts opening for the spores to rain through in the last seconds of s4 won't have immediate apocalyptic consequences (or it will, but will be at least semi contained for the time jump). which would mean Nancy's monsters everywhere vision would only come true after over a year of time skip
school is regularly in session but under extraordinary circumstances. giving the local kids an education IS a priority and the consequences of the rifts opening are not severe enough to limit going outside. it's at least not live threatening to do so and you're not at an immediate risk of getting swooped off your feet by a demobat. the spores and rifts are still a noticeable/dangerous presence in town and acknowledged by people to some degree (depending on what the spores even do) but kids being in the school building (especially with military in town now) is deemed save enough
school is not regularly in session. it's still a setting we see, similarly to how it's used by the end of s4, with it being a shelter and clothing/food distribution site. which would only become more needed with a progressing apocalypse underway and houses being destroyed by the rifts merging. the opening rifts in the last minutes of s4 trigger an immediate start of an apocalyptic scenario. which could either play out as Demogorgon In Melvads General Store Right Now, OR the military trying to regulate things and people still living semi normally/not fully aware of the extent of shit they're in
and all of these (technically 4) versions can also include varying levels of what things like the spores actually do. Hawkins could realistically be deemed a quarantine/containment zone which would require anyone in town by the end of s4 to stay put even with an apocalypse underway. the spores could also be a health hazard, radiation, link things/people to the UDs hivemind, and so on. we only see the rifts open, the actual effect of the spores isn't something we were allowed to see yet, major teaser
there's just a lot of directions they could take it in, i'm not even sure which one i would prefer most honestly
i only know i don't really like option 1, of everything being totally normal. because the dead/missing people, military, anti hellfire club, and so on are There now, they're not just going away and aren't easy to ignore during a "regular schoolday" either
i think going the full apocalypse route right away could feel a bit fast with the vibe ST generally has. but ST has had escalating conflicts, we're pretty far away from the small town horror and well into the sci fi horror by now imo. and since s5 IS very much a continuation of s4 plot wise, as the writers kept saying and s4 set up, things getting apocalyptic quick Would work significantly better than if it was a stand alone season
i also can't really see an easy way for them to backpedal to a relatively "normal" setting with how they ended s4. there's gate rifts all over town, the earthquake caused damage, people are leaving town, and in the last seconds of the season the rifts open letting spores and lighting from the UD pass over. like, that's bad full stop
them just closing the gates again for a time skip, only for them to open Again would be unnecessarily repetitive to me. they spent all of s4 getting to the point of the UD splitting Hawkins, i don't know if them pulling a sike and prolonging it more, only to do it later on, is something that would work well
so if they actually wanted to include the kids going to school in s5 i'd personally hope it's under unusual circumstances. just moving from everyone fleeing, dozens of people being dead and missing, religious fear movement over demons, everyone watching weird spores rain from the sky, back to a reality where people go grocery shopping to school and to work and hang out at the park would be a let down to me
(also i think there's something interesting about the concept of people pretending everything is still semi okay. even with it being very evident that it isn't really. would be very fitting both for the general closed off small town trope but also the theme of facades and pretending they went so hard on in s4)
i just want to know what they're going to go for tbh. i'd personally lean towards school but under fucked up and unusual circumstances based on how the writing has looked up until now (or no school if they want to be Really drastic about the apocalypse thing and lean fully into it ig)
#them scaling everything back to normal would suck imo#just having everything be semi normal in the final season is something i don't really see happening#not after they built the stakes up as much as they did in s4#school but weird is what i honestly see happening most#they Could use school exclusively as an emergency shelter too ig#but with the time skip i think it's more likely there will be education of Some kind. at least an attempt of normalcy iykyk#st s5#st s5 speculation
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Fandoms + Ships (for Prompt Purposes)
As I like to reblog prompts a lot but have the annoying little habit of jumping ship on a fandom fast than a pirate invasion, I decided it is finally time I make an official list, which will be constantly updated as I develop new interests! If there’s a ship you want to request but it isn’t here, just ask and I’ll let you know where I stand with it!
The Hunger Games
• Everlark (Katniss/Peeta)
• Finnick/Annie
• Haymitch/Effie
• Katniss/Madge
Future Man
• Josh Futturman x Reader
Burn
• Billy x Reader
HSMTMTS
• Caswen (Ricky/EJ)
• Portwell (EJ/Gina)
• Mashlynn (Maddox/Ashlynn)
• Ricky/Jet
The Vampire Diaries
• Stelena (Stefan/Elena)
• Mattlena (Matt/Elena)
• Tylena (Tyler/Elena)
• Elenijah (Elijah/Elena)
• Barolena (Bonnie/Caroline/Elena)
• Stexi (Stefan/Lexi)
• Denzo (Damon/Enzo)
• Forwood (Tyler/Caroline)
• Maroline (Matt/Caroline)
• Bamon (Bonnie/Damon)
• Bamenzo (Bonnie/Damon/Enzo)
• Carenzo (Caroline/Enzo)
• Dalijah (Damon/Elijah)
• Parkwood (Tyler/Liv)
• Klayley (Klaus/Hayley)
Legacies
• Handon (Hope/Landon)
• Jandon (Josie/Landon)
• Henelope (Hope/Penelope)
• Hizzie (Hope/Lizzie)
• Kizzie (Kaleb/Lizzie)
• Methan (MG/Ethan)
• Ked (Kaleb/Jed)
• Dark!Jobastian (Dark!Josie/Sebastian)
• Landizzie (Landon/Lizzie)
Teen Wolf
• Sciles (Scott/Stiles)
• Scydia (Scott/Lydia)
• Mccallinski (Lydia/Scott/Stiles)
• Stalia (Stiles/Malia)
• Malydia (Malia/Lydia)
• Stira (Stiles/Kira)
• Scira (Scott/Kira)
• Liason (Liam/Mason)
• Allydia (Allison/Lydia)
• Allerica (Allison/Erica)
• Berica (Boyd/Erica)
• Malisaac (Malia/Isaac)
• Lydora (Lydia/Cora)
• Allora (Allison/Cora)
• Scanny (Scott/Danny)
• Malira (Malia/Kira)
The Witcher
• Yennskier (Yennefer/Jaskier)
• Geraskerer (Geralt/Yennefer/Jaskier)
• Raskier (Radovid/Jaskier)
• Trennefer (Triss/Yennefer)
• Geralt/Triss
EastEnders
• Frobby (Bobby/Freddie)
• Chryed (Christian/Syed)
• Ballum (Ben/Callum)
• Sukeve (Suki/Eve)
• Ben Mitchell/Kheerat Panesar
• Jack Branning/Michael Moon
• Whitney Dean/Chelsea Fox
• Whitney Dean/Lauren Branning
• Lauren Branning/Peter Beale
• Lauren Branning/Lucy Beale
• Peter Beale/Fatboy
• Zack Hudson/Martin Fowler
• Zack Hudson/Felix Baker
• Anna Knight/Bernie Taylor
• Stacey Slater/Danielle Jones
• Peter Beale/Tamwar Masood
• Darren Miller/Tamwar Masood
• Tamwar Masood/Afia Khan
• Masood Ahmed/Jane Beale
• Anna Knight/Bobby Beale
• Anna Knight/Bobby Beale/Freddie Slater
• Linda Carter/Alfie Moon
Friends
• Roey (Rachel/Joey)
• Chanoey (Chandler/Joey)
Stranger Things
• Elmax (El/Max)
• Elumax (El/Lucas/Max)
• Byclair (Lucas/Will)
• Byler (Will/Mike)
• Ronance (Robin/Nancy)
• Steddie (Steve/Eddie)
Glee
• Blam (Blaine/Sam)
• St. Hudson (Finn/Jesse)
• Tike (Tina/Mike)
• Quinntana (Quinn/Santana)
• Pezberry (Santana/Rachel)
• Quinncedes (Quinn/Mercedes)
• Sike (Sam/Mike)
• Jarley (Jake/Marley)
• Kurtbastian (Kurt/Sebastian)
The Flash
• Barrisco (Barry/Cisco)
• Snowbarrisco (Caitlin/Barry/Cisco)
• WestStein (Joe/Martin)
• Superflash (Barry/Kara)
• Thallen (Barry/Eddie)
•Westthallen (Iris/Barry/Eddie)
• Westhawne (Iris/Eddie)
Outlander
• Jamie/John
• John/Brianna
• Brianna/Roger
• Lizzie/Josiah/Kezzie
• William/Denzell
Lucifer
• Lucifella (Ella/Lucifer)
• Douchifella (Lucifer/Dan/Ella)
• Mazifer (Maze/Lucifer)
• Douchifer (Dan/Lucifer)
• Chlaze (Chloe/Maze)
PJO/HoO
• Jasico (Jason/Nico)
• Jercy (Jason/Percy)
• Perachel (Percy/Rachel)
• Rachabeth (Rachel/Annabeth)
• Pipabeth (Piper/Annabeth)
Merlin
• Merthur (Merlin/Arthur)
• Mercelot (Merlin/Lancelot)
•Merwaine (Merlin/Gwaine)
• Morgwen (Morgana/Gwen)
The Dumping Ground
• Elektra/Faith
• Elektra/Carmen
• Carmen/Lily
• Tyler/Jody
• Jody/Sasha
• Tyler/Ryan
• Chloe/Candi-Rose
• Candi-Rose/Bird
• Candi-Rose/Jay
The Story of Tracy Beaker
• Tracy/Crash
• Tracy/Ben
• Tracy/Lol
• Lol/Wolfie
• Crash/Rio
• Justine/Rebecca
Life With Derek
• Dasey (Derek/Casey)
• Derek/Sam
• Derek/Trevor
• Casey/Sally
Boy Meets World
• Shory (Shawn/Cory)
• Jeric (Jack/Eric)
• Eric/Jason
• Shawngela (Shawn/Angela)
• Shawpanga (Shawn/Topanga)
Girl Meets World
• Rilaya (Riley/Maya)
• Riley/Zay
• Riarkle (Riley/Farkle)
• Lucaya (Lucas/Maya)
• Maya/Zay
• Riley/Maya/Zay
Descendants
• Jal (Jay/Mal)
• Jaylos (Jay/Carlos)
• Mevie (Mal/Evie)
• Hevie (Harry/Evie)
• Buma (Ben/Uma)
• Umaudrey (Uma/Audrey)
• Haudrey (Harry/Audrey)
• Humaudrey (Harry/Uma/Audrey)
• Bevie (Ben/Evie)
iCarly
• Creddie (Carly/Freddie)
• Carly/Sam
• Carper (Carly/Harper)
• Sparper (Spencer/Harper)
Victorious
• Tandre (Tori/Andre)
• Jori (Jade/Tori)
Zoey 101
• Quogan (Quinn/Logan)
#about meeee#ships and shit#my ships and fandoms#prompts#ignore me while I ramble#again if there are any ships or fanfoms not lisred here that you aren’t sure about my interest in just ask!
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