Do you think Kes' ability to pick up on things so quickly is linked to her being an Ocampa? Like, since she's 2~ years old in canon (and has distinct memories of her father) I imagine her species doesn't spend much time as children and I wouldn't imagine they'd have formal schools (like entire buildings for schooling) and would instead learn from like, primarily parents or other elders. In that case learning things very quickly would be extremely beneficial for their survival.
Kes: Oh yes, childhood...what a lovely few days~
Kes was a baby like for a day and then the next day she was up and ready to learn. Kes meets Naomi and every day that passes she becomes more and more amazed that she's still a baby. Wow! It's been like two months and she still can't do anything?? The doctor told her it was normal but wow.
What I'm saying is they should have had Kes as a jack-of-all-trades character who could slide into pretty much any of the teams on Voyager. The Doc misses her when she's not in sickbay though!
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So funny that you argue that pregnancy isn’t limited to just women and it’s not an inherently feminine thing so it’s not a sexist trope to utilize for an underdeveloped female character since it’s just a neutral thing and then argue that its good for shivs character because your tired of all the Butch Business Bitches or whatever the fuck you’ve made up in your head since she needs to desire to be feminine to be a good character
whhhhaaat the fuck. this is like... eight different strawmen fallacies at once. how did you do that genuinely how did you do that
okay. lemme run this down real quick the only way i know how: fuckin hs debate style. i'll go down the line by line:
pregnancy isn't limited to just women, it's not an inherently feminine thing, but it IS societally associated with women and femininity. like, it's a sad truth but it is a truth.
the existence of pregnancy in general in television is not a sexist trope! pregnancy exists in real life! when a woman you know gets pregnant, do you think that's sexist or something?
shiv isn't actually underdeveloped, man. the parts of her that are underdeveloped are the ones that she refuses to acknowledge, which are, coincidentally, the ones tied to 'femininity.' so yeah, i think that for a character who has been very very developed in her relationships with her family, her husband, her career, and everything else, i think that having her unpack her relationship with gender is a good thing and a way to develop her further.
it's good for shiv's character because it allows both her and us to explore the aspects of herself that she refuses to admit to as said above and in the post multiple times
i'm tired of "Butch Business Bitches or whatever the fuck [i've] made up in my head" ???????????? alright. okaay. ooookay. i'm not even gonna go here. i just answered another ask claiming there are No Career Women Who Get Abortions On Television which is apparently, seeing as you're saying that as well, an actual thing people somehow think! fucking believe me. i am ALL for butch business bitches. i just don't think that 'feminine' traits and values being considered weak and thus off-limits for any woman who hopes to be respected is a good thing, and i think women should be allowed to have nuances, and be butch business bitches who also want to fall in love -- if they want! and not if they don't! as long as it's about what they want, not what they feel like they need to do in order to survive in a male world
'she needs to desire to be feminine to be a good character.' uh huh yeah so that's not a thing i ever said or meant in my life, like ever? there are just a lot of women who base their personality and identity off a fundamental fear of femininity and being perceived as a woman -- i know, i was one for much of my life, that's why i like shiv and amy and other characters like them -- and maybe, just maybe, that's not actually a healthy or satisfactory way to live! doesn't mean they have to 'desire to be feminine,' just that they actually start to consider what they desire. again. see above. and also the actual post. which you will not do.
you dropped like all my args in the post btw. you'd lose both on VC and line-by-line even ignoring the unprofessional demeanor and lack of understanding of my original contentions. 0 speaker points. good night!
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I can’t believe I have to say this (again), after the
SEVENTH splatfest, but popular team is so heavily favored to win that it’s really disheartening to play. I’m trying to be happy for team power and all the other splatfest victors but it makes me bitter. Like, even when I’m on the winning team I don’t feel like I’ve earned it. Splatfests feel pointless? Especially after they’ve given up fixing the problem (last two splatfests they stopped fiddling with the scores).
Anyway, congrats to everyone who participated, but special shout-out to team wisdom and courage, who (despite the percent scores being so close) earned NO points for this fest. Real morale killer
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Losing to team wisdom: 🤝🫶😘 gg 😊☺️✨🌹🩵🩵
Losing to team power: 😒😐😀🧍🚫💔⛈️💤
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