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couldnt-think-of-a-funny-name · 4 years

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how would you do a percy jackson adaptaion?

okay, so I know this is a controversial opinion right off the bat: I really don’t think it should be an animated series.

A large part of the appeal of the series is that it’s a fantasy series set very very firmly in reality. Literally, apart from the camps, you could go to every location hit in the books. Riordan mentions specific streets, buildings and landmarks, and that was cool when I first read them. I remember being a kid and waiting for him to set a scene in a place near where I lived! I remember trips to New York and being able to envision an epic war happening in the streets. So I think any adaption needs to be live action just to keep that same feeling alive, while I’m not knocking on animation, I just feel like taking the story out of real life would make it loose a little of the charm. Like, the scene where Manhattan is completely frozen in time? It would be haunting to see that in real life, but I feel like it would be less impactful if it didn’t…you know…look real? The series should be done in a way that makes you truly feel like you could just turn a corner and walk straight into a snake woman going about her day.

Now: another large part of the appeal of the series is how funny it is, but a lot of that…is Percy’s inner monologue. He doesn’t actually voice most of it, there was even a book where Annabeth described him as being quiet. So, I think the best way to work around this: make it Interview With A Demigod.

Imagine it’s got an interview with a vampire-esque setup- and this even works because within the riordanverse, the books canonically exist because Percy sat down with a ‘camp scribe’ and had his quests recorded. So, like, this isn’t even entirely out of left field. But just imagine, a college-aged, maybe a little older Percy, I can see it so clearly in my head, he’s wearing a sweatshirt that at first glance looks like it says NYU but a trained eye will see it actually says NRU for a camp jupiter easter egg, he’s sitting in some dinky little diner (maybe it can even be a monster donut or something with a clever greek myth related name) with a guy who’s recording the conversation on some old-ass tape recorder that keeps acting up but they can’t record on a phone because of the whole technology thing. Every now and then it’ll cut back to them to get some great Percy thoughts out there. They open with older Percy saying the ‘look, I didn’t wanna be a halfblood’ and then explaining where he was when the whole mess started. Once he get’s to “was I a troubled kid?” the screen fades from older Percy to 12 year old Percy getting in a fight with Nancy and her gang, and the voice over says the ‘Yeah, you could say that’ part as we see him get threatened by the principal to behave on the field trip. Boom, we’ve got an opening. Lowkey….I’m seeing Jordan Fisher as older Percy, but I’m not 100% married to the idea.

And before anyone tries to argue that showing an older Percy would spoil he’s not gonna die in last olympian- like, reading the books, we all knew he wasn’t going to die. It was a first person narrative and he was consistently speaking in past tense lmao like we Knew he was gonna make it. We still enjoyed the series. It won’t ruin anything.

I want part of the score of the adaptation to be instrumental versions of songs from the musical, I think that could be a sweet nod to that team.

They really need to nail camp halfblood. I know that goes without saying, but in order to keep the pacing of the story decent we can’t spend as much time falling in love with it like we got to with the book. The book is like, 24 chapters and the quest starts at chapter 12- for a movie or tv show, that’s just gonna feel like it’s dragging. So, the insanity of the camp needs to smack you in the face right away, and then it needs to endear itself to the viewers quickly after that. Don’t try to ease the viewers (or Percy) into the mythology is real thing, rip it off like a bandaid. He’s on his way to meet Chiron and Mr. D for the first time and even if he’s not comprehending what he’s seeing, there’s nature spirits and harpies all around going about their day. Hestia waves at him and then disappears into the flames. Hecate kids can be seen casting a spell on the porch of the Hermes cabin. The Stolls are seen pranking some Aphrodite kids. He sees someone surely die on the climbing wall but then you hear a faint ‘I’m okay!’. The Apollo kids put a rhyming curse on another cabin. Pure chaos all before he gets the ‘so, gods are real’ speech. And then after that…show how warm Luke is to him at the cabin and at dinner. Show the kids all goofing off at the campfire and really make it clear that they’re children. Show the strawberry fields rolling in the wind and Percy sitting on the beach. The whole couple weeks where he’s searching for powers and learning greek and latin with Annabeth can be a montage. Make it clear how hurt and scared he is when he finds out he needs to leave.

It needs to really get you feeling how Percy’s feeling, every laugh, every tear, every moment of fear or confusion needs to shine clear through. Like…think of Spider-Man Homecoming, the Washington monument scene. All things considered, it’s not the most high-stakes scene we’ve ever seen in that franchise, and when it cuts to the kids in the elevator, they’re worried but not quite freaking out, but that scene feels very high stress to watch because the movie is good at getting the viewers to feel what Peter feels. A Percy Jackson adaptation needs a touch like that, because Percy’s a very emotional kid and that’s what a lot of the scenes hinge on.

Lowkey- I’d love it if the casts of both the previous movies and the musical had cameos or bit parts (the movie cast did Nothing Wrong, it was the rest of that team). It’d be hilarious to see, like, Jake Abel as the owner of the poodle, or Logan Lerman as Older Percy and the reporter’s waiter that keeps trying to get in on the conversation, or Brandon T. Jackson as a satyr who’s still stuck grooving out in the Lotus Hotel and Casino. Kristen Stokes as a nature spirit, Chris as one of the ghosts stuck in the waiting room of DOA Records, just like any of those casts having small parts would be fun and sweet.

There should be a lot of easter eggs for the bigger riordanverse. Promotions in the background for the new Tristan McLean movie. Gabe’s got a true crime documentary about the missing Grace children playing during his poker game. Mr. D is reading a paper about Rachel Dare’s father’s newest project. At some point while they’re still in New York they pass the Kane family’s mansion or whatever it was called. Annabeth keeps a picture of little her and Magnus on her nightstand. The barest of hints about the Triumvirate. Seeing kids in camp jupiter gear in some background shots, just out of notice of our main characters but implying the camps are going through similar problems (BITCH….if we got a titan’s curse adaptation…and we had a shot of Thalia in the foreground….but in the background we saw a blond boy in purple with a golden sword….well I would simply loose my Goddamn mind).

And show us how easily the mist lets things blend in, too- like, everyone thinks ‘Monster Donuts’ is just a normal chain, it’s just on an average street block, but if Percy looks through the window he can see who’s behind the counter. Show someone swindling some guys in a park and you have to look twice to realize he’s a gegeines. Like…how people are still trying to find all the background ghosts in haunting of hill house. I would LOVE to see a bunch of background monsters and mythical beings just going about their day as much as the mortals are while the gang’s questing.

The effects need to be fun. The whole story needs to be fun, but one weird thing about the past movies are that like…in their attempt to make it gritty, none of the fantastical things happening on screen actually felt that exciting. We need bright colors and interesting choices, consistently cool action shots, a liveliness that makes you feel like you’re in the center of the action. I have absolutely no doubt Disney easily has enough funds to pull off great effects.

The characters need to be….in character lmao. Annabeth needs to be cocky and bratty with the skill set to justify it. Percy needs to be a sweetheart who pretends to be hardened because that’s what people assume he’s like. Grover needs to have dry humor and a Too Old For This Shit attitude whenever percabeth start bickering. Luke needs to be nice and friendly but in a specific way that you can look back after the betrayal and see he was trying to groom everyone. Sally needs to be loving, protective and strong. Chiron needs to feel defeated and determined at the same time. Mr. D needs to….be Stanley Tucci lmao

Also, I’d love if the adaptation could expand more on things that got brushed along in the books- Percy and Beckendorf’s friendship, Silena and Clarisse’s dynamic, make Nico’s crush on Percy a little more obvious, give Rachel some more development. One thing that haunts me about the books is Sally never found out that Gabe hit Percy. Absolutely they don’t need to make the abuse explicit, but I also personally feel like a lot of Percy’s mindsets throughout the series are somewhat a result of Gabe, and I’d like if that got, you know, acknowledged. Maybe in the scene where he figures out Gabe abuses Sally he could say ‘does he hit you too?’ or something to that effect. They could also go more into detail about Annabeth’s family, give Zoe some more depth….like the possibilities I’m screaming.

Okay this is already long and I’m getting tired but I can so clearly see a great adaptation in my mind….Disney please come through….It’s what we deserve….

#percy jackson #disney #rick riordan #pjo #hoo #toa #asks #molly mumbles

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thelowartgloominati-blog1 · 5 years

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Goodbye.

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So it seems Tumblr has more then likely flagged me as one of those deviants who ruined a good advertising platform for Yahoo and Verizon’s shareholders with my posting of 1920′s pin up models, affinity for shiny shiny latex, and of course the forbidden “female presenting nipples,” among other such things that are now “too hot for Tumblr.” Some of the stranger things the algorithms have flagged on my blog were a photo set from a 1931 Mickey Mouse Cartoon, a GIF from a Queen music video, and some out-of-context Betty and Veronica panels.

And really, if I can’t have subtle lesbian innuendo in a 1960′s comic book, or Freddie Mercury in drag on my blog, then what is the damn point?

So I’ve made my decision. Tumblr and I have had an “on again, off again” relationship the last few years as is, this is actually blog number three for me, in total. My first one dates back to about 2011. I could handle some of the unsavory aspects of the community on here, they were never too bad. I was very skeptical about Yahoo (read: Verizon) buying up what was once a beacon for independent artists and unconventional voices, with the naked goal of “outreaching maximum engagement with millennial demographics.” That was when I left the first time (that and a falling out I had with some old acquaintances, it was time for me to disappear for a little while on the internet anyway...). I came back later, about a year and a half later to be exact, to see how things had changed, and to give myself something to do whilst listening to podcasts again. I was largely not impressed, and other things in life came up, I needed to clear away the distractions again, so I deleted for a second time, and didn’t expect to come back. About two years later I decided to give it one more shot, and after a little adjusting to the changes, and re-learning things, I thought I’d carved a comfy little niche on here. I never really cared about having X number of followers, or getting X number of notes on any given post, I was just happy to have a little place to cultivate some of the mismatched interests I have.

Where else could a bisexual, conspiracy theorist, Disney fanatic, vinyl record collector, with an affinity for fashion, new wave music, classic rock/metal, all things neon, horror movies, and uncountable other sundry odds and ends, feel like he belongs?

Well... not here anymore.

Tumblr have made a decision too. A decision to spit in the face of people who helped make their website successful in the first place. Or rather, I should say, the website they bought. And I want to clarify something, this isn’t even JUST about the NSFW ban. I mean, that’s a big part of it, the fact that Tumblr has elected to take down the livelihood of artists, sex workers, erotica publishers, and try to ram a website that has, since it’s inception, NEVER been family friendly into a box that’s more marketable for their investors, that they can sell more adspace on, and court Apple into letting them back onto their precious app store. The App store which I remind you, they only got kicked off of because of porn BOTS, which this ban has not eliminated, and child porn, which is already against Tumblr’s terms of service as-is, and should absolutely be removed. In nuking ALL NSFW content however they have elected to punish everyone for the actions of a few.

Worse yet, the algorithm they’re using is... a joke. A joke that flags pictures of deserts and water-skiing as inappropriate content.

But it’s the manner in which this has been done, and the sheer corporate sleaze evident in the whole operation that makes me sick to my stomachache, and the fact that it’s being perpetrated by Verizon (Ajit Pai’s owners), whom will undoubtedly use this as a stepping stone for worse and worse things in the future.

Today it’s banning adult content, tomorrow it’s banning copy-written content, the next it’s paying for posting and buying visibility. Goodbye independent town square of ideas and artists tumblr, hello advertiser-friendly corporate controlled Tumblr.

I’m out.

I’m not going to PERSONALLY delete this blog, I’m just going to post this on the 16th, log off, and not log on again. If the bots don’t end up getting me and this blog is still somehow here tomorrow, this post will act as a gravestone for a dead blog. If any of my mutuals do wish to follow me on any of my other social things (all three of them), I will post links below, and if I decide to go to pillowfort or something like that, I’ll log back in one more time to edit this post with that information (assuming it still exists).

UPDATE: I went to Mastodon

I’m on DeviantART where I sometimes post art but usually don’t. I’m on Steam where I sometimes play Sonic the Hedgehog. I’m on Youtube where I cultivate playlists of music, and little else.

If this sounds melodramatic that’s because this website has had an odd pull on me since I first came on about 2011, it’s been an up and down journey, but it’s the longest I’ve solidly “stuck” to a social media thing. It has just enough anonymity to keep the paranoid conspiracy theorist me happy, but just enough personalization to keep it distinctively a reflection of me. Looking back, if only thorough memory, at my older, defunct blogs I see a very young minded, perhaps more innocent and naive vision of me, who discovered new things, developed new interests, changed and grew as a person. I’m 24 now, I was 17 when I got my first Tumblr account, in a sense I... somewhat grew up on Tumblr. And even though I deleted almost EVERYTHING else I had on the internet since then... I kept coming back here for some reason, it has a homey feel to it. It’s comfy here.

So seeing it go the way of a Facebook or a Twitter, a corporate owned, content filtered, advertiser-driven, wreck is like... losing a home away from home. Plus, I’ve reached a new chapter in my own life as well; I’m changing jobs, I plan to move again next year, my best friend is getting married, I have no less then three major cross-country trips to plan in the next 11 months, something’s gotta give anyway. Perhaps now is the right time to put this blog away anyway, I just wish it were still on my terms, and not the terms of a publicly traded corporation that’s against net neutrality. I’d like to thank my mutuals, you’re fantastic, wonderful people and you know who you are, I know a few of you plan to delete too, so I wish y’all the best.

Goodbye Tumblr, it’s been a ride, but I knew it couldn’t last.

#So long and thanks for all the fish

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wlwofwaverlyplace · 6 years

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concept: Adam goes to Seabrook and joins the cheer squad

yoooooo, I’m still salty over the fact that Disney didn’t let Adam stay on the Mission Creek cheer squad, but YES let’s take him to Seabrook just bc we can.

also, ummmmm this got long. lowkey turned into a whole AU because I had to make sense of everything I guess, so my headcanons are under the cut!

- The Davenports move to Seabrook after a close call on the bionic secret almost getting exposed (early lab rats era) and Davenport smelling a potential mission with zombies getting integrated into human school, aka he pretty much takes the humans’ word for it and assumes they’re dangerous.

- Adam and Bree both take an immediate interest in joining the cheer squad. Bree, because she realizes the squad is Seabrook’s epitome of popularity and wants in, and Adam because he’s always had a passion for cheerleading.

- They both pass the try-outs with flying colors, the Aceys especially impressed with Adam’s ability to easily toss girls in the air on his own (and relieved at Bree’s ability to move fast enough to catch them all). So Adam becomes a base and Bree becomes a spotter.

- Bucky had spoken against them joining the squad because he found the siblings’ talents to be “suspiciously freakish,” but in the end, he was outvoted.

- For cheer initiation, Adam and Bree are paired up together, expecting Zombietown to resemble a villain’s lair like any of the countless they’ve seen on their missions, but are shocked to find that it’s a town like any other: families and children just trying to live life in peace on their side of the wall. Exactly the kind of the people they’ve been trained to protect. Bree uses her super-speed to trick Bucky and the Aceys into thinking they’ve egged the house so they can keep their places on the squad, but relay to Chase/Leo/Mr. Davenport that their “zombie problem” may not actually be a problem.

- From there, the Davenfam does their research on zombie-ism and conclude that the only real threat in Seabrook is the rampant anti-zombie sentiment on the human side of the border. Chase and Mr. Davenport set to work on inventing a more effective/foolproof Z-band while Leo does one of the things he does best: activism. Adam and Bree are unfortunately limited in their cheer circle, but Adam is less afraid to vocally defend zombies - no filter, plus we all know he tends to speak from the heart.

- Adam is clearly the cheer squad’s new superstar, gaining fast friendships and admiration from his teammates who appreciate his unique personality in a way it hadn’t been back at Mission Creek. They couldn’t care less about smarts or academics, and are more than happy to follow Adam’s excited, often weird trains of thought. Many come around to his positive view on zombies, especially after Zed starts winning football games.

- His positive energetic approach to cheer is contagious, and as Adam’s popularity grows, Bucky becomes more and more agitated having to share the spotlight with a newbie. A newbie who supports zombies nonetheless, as if his cousin weren’t enough. He’s constantly throwing rude-ass shade Adam’s way, often coaching him too harshly just out of jealously, but Adam rarely picks up on it, being as… full of potential as he his.

- (Adam’s cheerful friendly replies only irritate Bucky more).

- When Addison and Bree 1 (as Addison’s best friend is delegated) start the zombie cheer that gets them kicked, Adam joins right in and gets kicked as well. He loves cheerleading, but it’s still his duty to protect the innocent, whatever that entails. It’s clear the squad suffers from his loss and the Aceys want him back - at least for the competition - but Bucky is too prideful to ask.

- Bree or “Bree 2″ is too afraid of losing popularity in the moment, but later leaves the squad of her own volition once Bucky starts eliminating the rest of the pro-zombie members.

- After human-zombie harmony gets restored at the end of Z-O-M-B-I-E-S (in Seabrook High at least), Adam and Bree 2 are reinstated on the squad, as well as Addison and Bree 1.

- Once Bucky gets over himself a little, he and Adam actually grow to be great friends, bonding over their love of cheer and respect for each other’s skills. Bucky admires the way Adam doesn’t care what anyone thinks and simply lets his heart guide his actions - that and whatever other random impulses he gets throughout the day. It inspires him to care less about his own image, and more often say what he really feels.

- Adam brings all the dogs to Zombietown and somehow ends up bonding over them with Zoey, so now they’re “pet pals”, whatever that means.

- Bree 1 paints his nails the Seabrook green-and-pink before every competition for good luck, a tradition he whole-heartedly believes in.

- Adam and Bonzo often engage in deep philosophical conversations about the meaning of life, not that anyone would ever guess listening in. Bonzo will only speak zombie, which Adam has zero understanding of, but the spiritual connection between deep-thinking individuals can bridge the gap of any language. (”That’s not a real thing, Adam.” “Oh, Chase. Just because you don’t have the gift, doesn’t mean I don’t.”)

- Adam creates cheer chants to help him memorize material for school or important mission instructions. Ok, but just imagine him in the middle of a highly volatile mission trying to remember something and then suddenly breaking out into a full cheer chant with matching dance moves and all. Bad guys are very thrown off.

- The cheer squad movie nights tend to always happen at the Davenports’ because ~billionaire media room~ and also because they are very efficient with the popcorn, i.e., an industrial-sized bag + heat vision. Adam is an even more valuable edition than they think.

- META HC: Every time the cheer squad breaks into song musical-style, the effect is ruined thanks to one off-key Adam who can’t sing to save his life.

- This whole time, Chase and Leo were chillin in computer club with Eliza.

#z-o-m-b-i-e-s #lab rats #adam davenport

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jayleeg · 7 years

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What's going on with Marvels comics this time?

Okay, so this guy who called himself “The Whisperer” who claims to be a Marvel Comics employee dumped a crap load of company dirt onto reddit. Once those rumors surfaced Bleeding Cool ran an article about how it was all crap. And then the rumor leak guy fired back that Rich, the administrator of Bleeding Cool, got paid by Marvel to write the article debunking his rumors. Honestly the entire thing is like a soap opera.

I mean I shouldn’t find this stuff interesting, normally I don’t, I stay away from gossip sites for a reason (and that reason is most of it’s torrid and exaggerated) but as someone who’s worked in the market of business data and trends for twenty years I *have* been wondering why Disney hasn’t intervened with the comics division of Marvel when a) it’s going under, sales are way down and b) they’re ruining their brand with crap storytelling. So out of all of these ‘rumors’ the one I can actually believe is that Disney is staging an intervention and also toying with the possibility of moving Marvel Comics to Burbank, California in order to keep a closer eye on them all.

Anyway, the rumors that started the drama are copied and pasted under cut (and by pasting them here I am no way claiming or endorsing that they are in any way valid, they very well could be a bunch of crap) and I linked the Bleeding Cool article debunking some and taking credit for others above…

Editorial is miserable. Understaffed, under experienced and overworked. The direction at the top corporate level is a mess of politics and in-fighting. They all look the fool to Disney because of Feige’s split and the bad PR & constant gaming of their declining sales is wearing on them. Top brass want to make a hard left back to what worked with Steve, Thor, Tony, Banner and other recognizable faces. Editorial knows how bad it’s going to look to push all their diversity celebrations to the side. Reality is those books didn’t sell. A lot of it had to do with Marvel’s chincy practices finally reaching a breaking point with fans but the internal editorial spin is that comic shop fans aren’t ready to embrace change.

>The terrible reaction to Hydra Cap/Secret Empire forced a change in plans. Originally it was going to end with a quasi-Dark Reign scenario where Hydra is vanquished thanks to Kubik shenanigans and the World Security Council from the movies steps in to assume power over super heroes and everything has Civil War-era overtones with registrations, boot camps, the idea of an Inhuman ban. The Vanishing Point would be a way to bring back Steve, Tony, Thor, Banner; sort of like Hickman’s “Time Runs Out” jump-skip but in reverse, it would rewind the characters to before the Hydra subversion stars. The classic heroes realize that they have lost touch with the people and need to learn how to fight for them again. In the meantime, the new generation of Miles, Kamala, Riri and other Champions would form “the resistance” against the WSC state. (“Generation” was also planned to be the transition from the classic guys taking a step back and letting the new generation lead the charge).>>>Legacy is a rush-job. They can’t afford to take the classic characters off the table like that for so long but they also don’t want to piss off the new diverse audience they’ve been trying to court. They’re trying to have their cake and eat it too, and please all masters. It’s a scattershot way to buy time while they right the course on several books. It’s not going to be about “new number 1s” but milestone 500, 600, 800 issues. A lot of these big volume numbers are really stretching the definition but the constant relaunches have started to seriously damage the trade department’s ability to plan out long-term marketing.

>They’re bringing back the Ultimate line for the teen heroes. Miles will become Ultimate Spider-Man again. Siri becomes Ultimate Iron Man. X-Men Blue becomes Ultimate X-Men. Champions becomes the Ultimates. The only “adult” character that will be a regular presence is Captain Marvel because they want her to be seen a prominent character to the overarching power structure of the WSC/SHIELD and other elements that will factor into her movie heavily. They’ll still make guest appearances in the “main” books but don’t expect them to anchor anymore franchises. Bendis staying on Miles and Riri. Hopeless is still on Ult X. New Ultimates writer is Amy Reeder

>Waid is a stop-gap on Cap to bridge the Legacy launch, then takes over Iron Man with 600 (Doom will be the main villain). Coates is taking over Cap with 700. They want him on the book to endorse the image rehabilitation. There’s a lot of face-palming internally about the “cap is a nazi” talk. He’s on both that and Black Panther as long as his schedule allows.

>They got lucky with Greg Pak and Hulk. It leads into a Planet Hulk revival pretty seamlessly.

>Jane Foster dying was always the end-game with the storyline, but the positive response with female fans means they’re trying to find a way to make her stick around. Tentatively planning to make her the new Valkyrie as the movie version is a blank slate and no one cares about the 70s Defenders character.>Classic Thor will be space-bound for awhile. Definitely through “Ragnarok.”>>

>Slott is off Amazing Spider-Man. They’re going to move him over to Friendly Neighborhood; the fear is he would sign exclusive with DC if they took it away from him completely. Plus he struggles with deadlines and there’s less risk with him off to the side. They can’t ignore declining sales anymore and it’s time for a refresh.>Spencer was earmarked for ‘Amazing Spider-Man” for awhile but he’s “earned it” after taking the heat for Secret Empire. Plus there are fans of his “Superior Foes” book in editorial and the plan is to emphasize tech-based criminals, go smaller scale, focus on NYC. Yes, like the movie. No, they’re not going to de-age him to a teenager. (Although it is a corporate synergy idea that has been floated; editorial has been able to argue that there’s no great way to do it … yet. They’re hoping Tom Holland ages up and they give up on that idea. The time-displaced X-Men are an albatross brought on by First Class synergy).>No major plans for MJ beyond guest spots here and there. The marriage isn’t coming back ever. Renew Your Vows will stick around until its a money-loss. It’s just a spin-off that had some legs, like Spider-Gwen. Silver Sable/Black Cat plans are being developed. Big plans for the Venom series to have a central role in Marvel events.>>>The X-Men are still in a tight spot. ResurrXion was itself a rush job after the Inhumans movie push was officially kaput and there was no future for family of books. Because of the Fox issue, they still can’t create new ideas that could go toward the movies so its literally just nostalgia retreads. Uncanny will be back next year with Xavier. Old Man Logan is sticking around for the foreseeable future with X-23 becoming his sidekick, the book will be called “Wolverine.” They burned out Deadpool fans with the price gouging, so no plans for spin-off series, but there will always be mini-series on the side to line out trades.

>Seriously, don’t expect the classic Fantastic Four anytime soon. Ike has seemingly dug his heels in; even though Fox will probably never figure out what to do with them, he’s spiting the brand because of how bad the negotiations went. Sue & Reed and the kids are seen as “boring” enough to sacrifice. Two-In-One is basically a containment book for people to get their F4 fix. It’s an inventory book, no set writer, it’s like “Avenging Spider-Man” or “A+X.” Different writers will get to use different pet characters.

>Ms. Marvel is in a funky spot because most at Marvel are aware that something organically special happened with her book. She’s basically the new “Runaways,” a special project with a special writer’s connection. It will last as long as Wilson wants to writer her, with a focus on the bookstore market while she pops in and out of other books when relevant. They want the audience to have enough familiarity with her because it’s inevitable she’ll be adapted sooner than later; it’s way too soon for her to be introduced into any Carol Danvers sequels so the TV division might snag her for their Hulu/Freeform teen show pitches. (Moon Girl is saved by her trade sales but the threshold is much lower for if sales drop any lower.)

>Wilson is also taking over Captain Marvel. They need to make it work and she’ll do the best job tying the legacy together. Kamala, Monica Rambeau, SWORD — its all part of it.

>Runaways is just a mini-series. They just want the trade out in time for the Hulu show. They can’t seem to get readers to care if it’s not BKV but they know people still love the franchise.>Cloak & Dagger and New Warriors series are coming. Squirrel Girl is wrapping up and North is moving her storylines over to NW where she’ll be the main character.

>Elektra, Bullseye, Kingpin tanking so hard shook them. They need the “Marvel Knights Netflix” corner to be sustainable, so they’re relying on Bendis on Defenders & Jessica Jones for awhile. Say what you want about his other stuff, everyone here thinks its still his sweet spot.>Brian Buccellato is on Daredevil with issue 600.>Justin Jordan is on Moon Knight; big hope that he can give Marvel their “mature” critically acclaimed book that juices up that corner of Marvel.

>Secret Warriors and Royals are already wrapping up. Rosenberg is moving over to one main Inhumans book. Quake/SHIELD will be background characters until “Agents” wraps up (everyone knows this is the last season).>They’re going to give Ahmed a shot with Black Bolt until sales drop.

>No plans to take Duggan off Guardians. Gunn is moving full steam ahead with Adam Warlock weirdness and they want to make sure those characters/ideas are “accessible” but still fun.

>Punisher War Machine is just one storyline involving Stark tech. They want to pull the character back from some of the real-life darkness and imagery; Nate Edmondson’s rep + Secret Empire has made him “ugly” (plus no one cares about Cloonan’s run). They want to scale him back to the Spider-Man/Defenders side of street-level, with less focus on real guns and more emphasis on comic book-y tech.

>Al Ewing is on Spirits of Vengeance. Editorial likes him, but he can’t sell a book to save his life. They just want someone with a love of Marvel lore to write the magic/horror characters to have them prepped for future Movie Phase exploration with a Blade reboot. They know that corner of Marvel horror needs its own “Annihilation.”

>It’s just like … a Spencer plot device. It could have been WeirdWorld (oh boy that was a failed plan). It’s just Spencer’s take on a “place out of time” a la Morrison.

>There are no plans for a Spidey reboot like that. They can’t get readers to pick up a teen Peter Parker since Bendis killed off Ultimate.

They wrote themselves into a corner because no one cares about kids books like Marvel Adventures or that “Spidey” book from last year.

There has been some discussion about an “Untold Tales of Spider-Man” relaunch with teen Peter and the high school cast but they don’t want Busiek and there’s no market for “prequel” books.

There’s a thought (and I agree) that once the animated Miles movie comes out, they’ll have their “Spider-Man for kids” so we want to keep him strong in the comics and cartoon merch. The Sony deal is kind of closed off but in terms of brand direction, we’re all about synergy. The Gwen revival talk is dead now that the Emma Stone movies are done.

We’re just kind of waiting to see Sony’s next steps but there’s kind of like a prep for nostalgia for the Raimi trajection in terms of MJ & college.

We’re in the dark about a lot of the post Infinity War plans now but the overarching brand direction we were looking at was scaling it to revolve around Spider-Man even though Marvel can’t make a solo Spidey film.

I think Tom Holland is going to be the new lynchpin for the MCU. They’re not going to have a new “Iron Man” franchise but they’ve got Holland locked into a deal where he’ll teaming up with characters in their own stuff.

The original plan was to mirror the Civil War to Secret Invasion to Dark Reign arc.

There’s a reason this is called Secret Empire. The next step was “Nomad”‘ing the entire Marvel line-up. There was a lot of editorial excitement about saying something about Trump’s win and the baby boomer backlash.

No one was expecting the backlash to cap hydra and they probably could have kept the original plans intact but I think it was the sales/marketing push that buried it.

Not everyone is an idiot here; we are aware of how we price gouge comic shops. I think that was more the issue and once all the online fan political arguing started happening around the book, retailers just finally threw their hands cause it wasn’t worth the outrage.

Jason Aaron is off doing his own thing. His Avengers BC thing is just a Morrison mini series idea he has.

Spencer “made his statement” now that Captain Sam won’t be the status quo (that was the original plan while Steve goes back to the maskless “Super Soldier” identity).

I think everyone agrees it’s time to take teens away from Waid.

But the senior editors had big plans for that push and now there’s nowhere else to put it. But we can’t just get rid of it forever.

There was no plan to replace all the “white men” its just how the pieces fell into the place. Honestly, the Riri thing was the tipping point. It was Bendis’ idea, no one in editorial had a big plan for it and it hurt the big post-Secret Wars push to make Tony Stark the franchise of the MU.

Since it’s basically a book for his daughter, we’re kind of stuck keeping her in print.

Edit wants to have a fresh voice on a Miles book in time for the Sony cartoon. David Walker apparently had a pitch that got people excited.

But there’s just no way to take Miles AND Riri away from Bendis without burning a bridge with him forever.

I’m not kidding: the Slott FNSM run is going to marketed like Joss Whedon on Astonishing. It’s its “own thing” “unrestricted by the monthly continuity but still taking place in the MU” which is code for “if its late, its late.”

It’s going to be sold as “separate but equal” to Amazing. I have no idea how long it will last, but it’s to assuage his ego apparently as he was not interested in other books.

I don’t think anybody wants anyone else to jump to DC. The real fear is Disney seeing that Warner had success moving the comics office to Burbank and lining everything up under one roof.

Moving Marvel Comics out of NYC and onto the Disney lots is a real possibility. A lot of us will get downsized or just not relocate if that happens.

not surprised. just our typical variant trick that’s been meant with diminishing returns while contracts get lined up for new last-minute books to replace post SE plans.

shitty day for me because i had to handle a lot of the online damage control until like 8:30

This is how Marvel corporate works under Ike: we don’t give the fox and sony movies anything but we will milk the cash in on comics.

After X3, the plan was to do a teen focused reboot, so we were going to cash in on that. Not literally the movie cast, but remove the baggage and make them streamlined and accessible to younger demos.

Claremont is like the “Spider Man wedding” of X Men. Its this unwieldy thing that none of the senior editors like that they want to rewind but because of the movie deal we can’t make new IP.

X-Men has been a micromanaged mess since I started here. AVX was a sales team gimmick to replicate Civil War, which messed up Schism. Remender’s plans got hijacked by the time displaced O5 which was a pretty shameless Bendis pitch to corporate. There’s no central architect guiding the franchise, just big plans that get derailed by the next sales gimmick.

Then the fox talks started going really south and it wasn’t just ��don’t give them new ideas” but actively scale it back.

Yes Ike and corporate really thought they could replace X Men with Inhumans. They don’t actually care what it is, just as long as they own it.

The 05 was seen as a way to scale it back and might as well “House of M” the last vestige of Grant Morrison’s run and just make Scott & Emma straight up super villains. But its been a mess cause no two writers are working together on the bigger picture and Gillen and Aaron and Remender all had different plans.

IVX was a mercy killing to a character that had been written into a corner

Carnage: big villain for the Venom plansPower Pack: early early development for a freeform show, comic would follow obviously

i’m writing this on my personal laptop out of the office. no one at marvel checks this place. and if they did, they just see 4chan as a bunch of trump trolls.

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