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starcurtain · 30 days

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2.1 Penacony Spoilers!

I know the scene after Ratio's "betrayal" can be read a lot of ways but I am shocked I haven't seen more people interpret it as Ratio being so worried about Aventurine that he couldn't stay away even though he was supposed to.

We know:

1) Ratio absolutely knew Aventurine's plan from start to finish, both his gamble to create "death" in the dream and with the three cornerstones. (Wish people would stop underselling Ratio in their analyses; "Three chips are enough" is a direct enough clue that, genius as he is, Ratio would never miss.)

2) In his own words, Ratio was acting according to Aventurine's instructions while in Dewlight Pavilion and with Sunday and felt that he did a good job not giving them away.

I think most people are on the same page up to there, but then I've seen a lot of people interpreting this scene after Aventurine leaves Sunday's mansion as Aventurine being genuinely angry at Ratio (possibly after having gaslit himself into thinking Ratio was actually betraying him).

But this doesn't make much sense to me because:

1) Ratio actually has nothing to gain by selling Aventurine out to Sunday. They're on the same side in this mission. Information about a Stelleron on Penacony wouldn't be news anyone with a brain like Ratio's and why would he need someone else's research on Stellerons when he already has ties to the Genius Society through Screwllum and Herta, as well as the Astral Express where the Trailblazer is actively housing a Stelleron?

2) One of Aventurine's most notable lines of dialogue is how it's perfectly fine and expected for "friends" to use each other and backstab. This is his default understanding of partners--why would he suddenly be mad about something he expected from the start?

3) If the betrayal wasn't already planned and was just a possibility based on Aventurine's understanding of Ratio, why would he ever have revealed there were "three chips" (aka three cornerstones) in play? If even the betrayal over Topaz's stone wasn't planned, just assumed, why would Aventurine reveal the existence of the third stone? He would gain nothing from doing so.

Instead, I think it makes a lot more sense to interpret Aventurine's frustration with Ratio in this later scene as annoyance over Ratio taking an "unnecessary" risk:

1) As far as Sunday knows, Ratio had just very seriously betrayed Aventurine, completely selling him out and essentially sending him to his execution.

2) In the scene afterward, Aventurine is out in public in the middle of Penacony where The Family's eyes are always watching, yet Ratio walks right up to him to check on him. Why would someone who just sold you out come up to you immediately afterward to check on your health?!

3) It's only natural that Aventurine would pump the brakes and go "Wow, didn't think you'd show yourself after you just betrayed me, remember?" Because that's the act they are supposed to be keeping up! They're still being monitored; it's not safe to break character!

But Ratio is a genius, right, so why would he break character here? From the standpoint of the ploy itself, revealing to the Family that he and Aventurine were still on the same side would only jeopardize the plan, not help it.

The logical explanation, then, is that Ratio went to Aventurine here because he felt like he had to.

He had to check in and make sure the situation was still under Aventurine's control.

(In fact, the entire exchange through the middle of this scene is Aventurine and Ratio confirming the rest of their plot in a veiled manner: Ratio brings up the plan and mentions what's concealed in the gift money bag, Aventurine confirms the cornerstone is good to go; Ratio asks what his next step will be; Aventurine says he's going to do the insane thing of handing out cash while looking pathetic [aka fishing for Sparkle]. Ratio essentially asks if he's crazy enough to take the final gamble with his own life, which Aventurine confirms, and then Ratio sets them up for the finale by gifting him the doctor's note.)

Ratio was willing to risk ruining their entire plan--something Aventurine does seem to be frustrated about at first--just to ensure Aventurine still felt all right about the situation.

He needed to deliver his note demanding Aventurine stay alive.

He needed to tell Aventurine to come to him if the situation got too painful to bear.

In short, Ratio was worried enough that he could not stay away even though, for the sake of their plot, it would have made significantly more sense for him not to appear. The gain of breaking character was worth more to him than the risk of being caught.

You honestly don't even have to take this in a shipping context. The real point here is that Ratio is an incredibly good person who wasn't okay with Aventurine's self-sacrificial plan and who felt morally compelled to check on a person in pain. He's a healer through and through, and ignoring Aventurine in this condition--ignoring someone who was taking so much risk on themselves--simply wasn't possible for him, no matter the danger it posed to the plan.

But for those who do ship Ratio and Aventurine... I hope more people will come to see this scene as another example of Ratio's genuine concern for his mission partner! He did not have to appear here at all; it would have made much more sense for him to leave Aventurine to his own devices to uphold the illusion of their "betrayal." He showed up in this scene--very likely against Aventurine's expectations--because he was concerned for Aventurine's situation and wanted to ensure Aventurine knew he could fall back on Ratio's support at any time if the plan went awry.

tl;dr: I wish people would stop interpreting this scene as the aftermath of a betrayal. Aventurine wasn't ticked off with Ratio in this scene because he felt like he'd genuinely been backstabbed; he was ticked off because Ratio was literally breaking their pre-established "betrayer" character just to be fussy over Aventurine's safety and well-being. (Okay, and to double check on the plan, but let's be real, the first part was definitely more important. 👌)

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suiana · 2 months

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(yandere! genius x gn reader)

"For someone so smart you are acting unusually stupid right now."

He grits his teeth, stalking towards you as you unconsciously take a step back.

"Why are you doing this to yourself? You need me."

He hisses at you, eyebrows furrowing as he folds his arms. You only stare back, lips pulled into a thin line as you refuse to speak to the person you once considered your friend.

How did it even get to this? You were only joking around when you told him that you wanted to date that cute bakery boy! How were you supposed to know that he had feelings for you? That he would do anything for your love?

"Come on. You know that bug wouldn't even match half of your intelligence."

He mutters, looking at you with lovesick eyes as you continue to defy his wishes. Why wouldn't you give into him already? It's clearly the best and most intelligent outcome! He knows this. You know this. So why are you making such a foolish mistake?

Is it because of...

"Hah, don't tell me you're actually throwing away everything to be with that plebian!"

He insults, eye twitching as he resists the urge to hurl insults at you. Come on! Just give in already! Why are you making this so much harder for yourself?

"He's an idiot! He will never match up to our levels of intelligence. Ever. Why are you tainting your bloodline by choosing him?"

"It was a joke! I don't actually like him!"

You yell, looking behind your shoulder for a possible exit. There was the window but the fall is two stories and you don't want to risk breaking your ankle. And there was also the door... But would you make it in time?

"Then why? Why are you refusing me? You know I'm the only one for you. The only one worthy of you."

He spits, face relaxing slightly at your reassurance that your crush was just a joke. However he can't help but grow agitated again at your antsy behavior. Are you scared of him? You keep looking at the door... Are you trying to leave?

"I locked the door. You can't run. Now answer my question."

He mumbles, taking large strides over to you as his patience wears thin. He's so glad he took precautions.

"What? You locked me in?! How-"

"Because I need you to understand that only I can stand as your equal! You hear me? Me. And only me."

He yells, trapping you against the wall as your chances of escape dwindle near zero. You feel your heart thudding in your chest, mind racing as you stare into his obsessive eyes.

"Only I am worthy of you, just as only you are worthy of me. No one else can compare with us."

He mumbles, calming down slightly as he invades your personal space. Your breath hitches as he stares down at you with sharp eyes. They are full of obsession, eyes belonging to someone completely unfamiliar to you. Dread fills your body as he mumbles his next statement, sending shivers down your spine at his lovesick tone.

"And I will make you understand why that is so."

#yandere #tw yandere #yandere x reader #yandere drabbles #yandere imagines #yandere drabble #yandere scenario #yandere scenarios #yandere concept #yandere hsr #yandere dr ratio #yandere genius #yandere genius x reader #gn reader #suiana rambling #suiana brainrotting

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cerealiii · 2 months

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Screwtio brain rot in which Screwllum creates a simulated universe to house the memories of his life with one Veritas Ratio. For inorganic creatures the definition of "life" is perhaps one of their most defining struggles as some would question if they are in fact even alive, but what of Death? Does death mean the same thing to the inorganic as it does to short lived organic life?

I haven't seen much exploration of the inevitability of Ratio's passing. I don't think either would be foolish enough to walk the path of abundance. I think Veritas would be very pragmatic about his death, in fact I think he'd be the one to gift himself and his memories to Screwllum for...science (and maybe a bit out of love).

Side brain rot: simulated Ratio escapes from SU as a new “life”, a ghost in the shell that jumps between programs and networks and appears before Screwllum when he least expects it -- on an errant screen, a voice in the radio, a whisper in his ear... It's simply Aha fucking with Nous, to take one of their path striders, one devout but ignored by their aeon and setting them free along another path. Simulated Ratio knows exactly what he and how he was created...

--- Cerealiii

(back dated to match twitter) 240216

#honkai star rail #screwllum #dr ratio #screwtio #The Penacony genius society side quest gave me too many brain worms.

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elleashling · 10 hours

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on ratio and his goals:

does anyone else ever just think about how the genius society is full of people who could be said to put their research over everything and everyone else.

ruan mei put aside the morality of creating an emanator, of slipping something into the trailblazer’s food without their knowledge, and she didn’t regret it. she mourned her creation and showed zero regard for her surviving small creations that loved her. she will probably never return for them, because she doesn’t care.

herta also very openly doesn’t care. she puts the success of the simulated universe over many other things in her life, including the wellbeing of others and even the likelihood of its success. maaaybe she cared about the acknowledgment from chadwick, but chadwick is exactly the same as her: selfishly following research without a care for the cost.

putting ratio against these characters is actually laughable to me. his entire existence is dedicated to sharing knowledge and making it public. his work connects with people. and beyond that, he forms relationships and creates connections.

he is so so human compared to any member of the genius society and yet his greatest desire is to be recognized by nous. who exclusively sponsors selfish beings who throw away morals and humanity in the name of “science”. he tries so hard to be perfect and statuesque and distant but he isn’t. the statues of him and the constant mask wearing. like he regrets being human too. explodes

i need to see more of his character arc. and also his relationship with aventurine. the kings of putting on a mask to hide their true selves. pleas

#honkai star rail #dr ratio #veritas ratio #hsr ratio #genius society #hsr #elle.txt #bro im actually so feral about this

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sleepyburito · 25 days

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My Beliefs as to Why

my idea as to why Veritas wasn't accepted into the Genius society and why Nous (the Erudition) hasn't gazed upon him:

his goals with knowledge are overall very selfless

Ruan Mei is creating and discovering new life for purely selfish reasons, her own curiosity

Screwlum is exploring human nature for his own curiosites

Herta seems like she's doing things for her own amusement

Veritas 'seeks to distribute knowledge to the entire universe to cure the persistent disease named ignorance '. While yes he collects knowledge for himself, he still overall has an entirely selfless goal, to educate people who want to be educated and even those who simply need to be. That and he 'firmly believes that intellect and creativity are not confined to geniuses'.

Nous is a machine and the literal embodiment of logical behaviour, to them, Veritas's actions and goals aren't logical. Possibly the idea of letting the ever illogical emotions affect one’s work feels very illogical to them.

According to a conversation he has with Screwlum at the end of Mundane Troubles;

Dr. Ratio: The ruler of Planet Screwllum is indeed well-versed in the human mind. It's a pity you are as much in the ivory tower as other geniuses — you still got one thing wrong.

Dr. Ratio: To stand aside and observe is the best treatment one can give. There is a disease called "foolishness" that is harder to cure than any ailment.

Dr. Ratio: The Path of Erudition has neither reason nor logic. While geniuses wander among the stars, the ordinary can't even trace their footsteps. Those less gifted have no choice but to walk alone, enduring a lifetime of tumbles and triumphs...

Dr. Ratio: ...but even a life marked by failure is a life worth living — it is only in moments of solitude and despair, when help is absent, that fools grasp how to pick themselves up.

Dr. Ratio: I have a fastidious nature — I cannot stand fools, idiots, or imbeciles. Seeing them fills me with dread. Regrettably, this space station is just like the Intelligentsia Guild — devoid of geniuses and filled with mediocrity.

Screwllum: You wish to uproot the researchers' blind worship of geniuses.

The Genius Society all seem to accept their titles of Genius and don't feel the isolation on the pedestals they've been placed on.

But Veritas has been placed on that pedestal before, he has felt the pressure and expectations, he has felt the isolation.

So while yes he would like Nous to cast their gaze upon him, they likely never will and I honestly think that’s for the best. Without their gaze he gets to continue his work without interference really

@secretly-nous

#honkai star rail #dr ratio #veritas ratio #character analysis #I just really like Veritas as a character and wish he could be talked about more #along with the genius society #as a former gifted kid they all hit hard as characters #hsr dr ratio #genius society

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the-astral-express-archive · 23 days

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Honkai: Star Rail | Cosmodyssey Board Encounter Events (1/4): Herta Space Station

#Honkai Star Rail #Assets #In-game Assets #Event Artworks #Cosmodyssey Event #Cosmodyssey Board Encounters #Ruan Mei #Herta #Screwllum #Asta #Peppy #Arlan #Dr Ratio #Wubbaboo #Sheila Nova #Cooking Genius

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mirokuna-hime · 2 months

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On another note I don't think that Dr. Ratio wasn't recognized by Nous because he lacks intelligence compared to the geniuses that all have been acknowledged by the genius society, but rather because his pursuit of knowledge isn't "pure".

All the members of the genius society have their own research at the forefront of their mind, they seek to expand their knowledge no matter how big the cost is and for what? Simply for the sake of it. Members of the genius society don't exactly think about how their research will benefit others or harm them, they do it all simply for themselves.

In case of Dr. Ratio, his pursuit of knowledge isn't just for himself, he does so to achieve his greater goal of curing ignorance across the stars which is the reason Nous will never gaze at him unless he gives up said goal.

#honkai star rail #hsr #dr ratio #veritas ratio #genius society

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kakyoinyoungpope · 2 months

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In my mind's eye ratio has two intellitron moms and his plaster heads are modeled after one of them :) also that purple hair of his is an ugly dye job and his moms don't like it at all

#if you came here from my friend's fic hi :) did you have fun did you enjoy it #honkai star rail #star rail #hsr #dr ratio #I also think that one of them is a part of the genius society which makes it even funnier that he didn't get in #q: why do you think his hair is dyed a: look at his eyebrows on his model. I rest my case

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kitty-meowskers · 11 days

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au where ratio is baldi and aventurine is the player

#IM CACKLING IM A GENIUS #babbles #hsr #aventurine #honkai star rail #hsr aventurine #star rail #aventurine hsr #dr ratio #dr ratio hsr #hsr dr ratio #aventio #raturine #ratiorine

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creamiceandsugar · 23 days

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this is so funny to me. ratio is the one "agree" on that comment LMAO

#hsr #dr ratio #i'm reading through it to understand why ppl think he'd want to join the genius society #or want nous to look at him #when he fundamentally disagrees with what they are about #i still dont get it but this part was funny #mans making his whole career to disprove the need for geniuses and ppl go #'wow poor guy. he really must want to join the genius society....'#he hates that they exist but go off

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ultimate-blorbo-collector · 3 months

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So I'm probably not the first person to think this (especially since I just remembered his statues) but I really think Dr. Ratio can draw super well. I saw the clip that said all the degrees he has, and bro. Biology? Physics?? Medicine???? Engineering?????? I hear those disciplines have so much drawing in them.

Like imagine a whole class not understanding a concept, and he just sighs and draws a whole diagram to explain.

#Hes so cute #Hed make me cry most likely but in my dreams Im a Genius Society member whos close to him #Dr Ratio #But fr we love a man who can do it all

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aoxizu · 26 days

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if the genius society rewards depth then the intelligentsia guild (or maybe just dr ratio) strives for breadth

the genius society seems to be a lot more picky about its members, choosing only those who actually revolutionize their field instead of just people who are at the top

whereas dr ratio's whole thing is about increasing accessibility of knowledge to all life in the universe as long as they want to learn

i don't know enough yet about the intelligentsia guild to tell whether this is an opinion shared by the entire organization or if it's just dr ratio

but dr ratio has more or less completely diverged from the specific path down erudition that the genius society treads, and is going alongside the intelligentsia guild to make another

or in other words nous is a minmaxer with a glass cannon build and dr ratio is a generalist who levels up everything equally

#hsr #dr ratio #or is it dr. ratio #same thing #like if you compare it to say stardew valley #nous would be using the starfruit wine strat #like they would be in late game stardew keeping track of the starfruit harvests ancient fruit harvests keg cycles cask schedules all of that #and they would constantly be downing triple shot espresso #and doing everything possible for the goal of more profit (ok maybe that's an ipc thing)#nous would absolutely try to speedrun perfection #and on the other hand dr ratio would be like the players with all the mods #or he would play in coop #but he would probably know how to get money fastest and choose to not do that anyways #spend time fishing and raising animals instead #and then install all the mods to experience more of the game #to put it in bird terms the genius society is like a falcon and the intelligentsia guild is like a sparrow

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huli-jinx · 4 months

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Here’s what I think each Genius Society and Herta Space Station Member’s cocktail would look like:

Herta:

Dr. Ratio:

Ruan Mei:

Asta:

Arlan:

Screwllum:

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rubywolf0201 · 5 months

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Gonna say this but damn we are getting new areas to explore in Herta Space Station! Kudos for the HSR devs for expanding on the location we first started!

Gonna say this but Ruan Mei is just so gorgeous but HUUURRRGGGHHHHHH…. Shes a huge skip for me because i already have Bronya, Hanya, Yukong and Asta with me…. But she’s beautiful and her weapon is kind of unique.

HOLY SHIT DOES DR RATIO MAKES ME FEEL THINGS! THE FACT THAT HE IS A FREE 5 STAR UNIT GIVEN TO PLAYERS DURING HIS CHARCATER BANNER RUN IS JUST 👌🏼

We are getting an expansion on Asta and why the heck is she on fire?!?

Last but not least but we have Herta with some dice like object.

#rubi’s post #honkai star rail #asta #herta #ruan mei #dr ratio #being honest here imma skip out on the genius society characters #they are nice and all but they don’t strike my interest tbh #i know that herta has the potential to be powerful if given the right build #and ruan mei can potentially hypercarry any DPS units #but as a whole i don’t vibe with them #i’m probably getting one copy of dr ratio via E1-E2 and that’s that

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fragmentedblade · 4 months

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I called it, Ruan Mei is deranged and shady as hell

#I love her #I also said that she the light cone and the light cone description and her last eidolon and some other things #made her feel almost nonexistent or barely there‚ but not in a Herta and Xueyi kind of way #And it seems I was right too? That line‚ 'Life is so colourful‚ but... it has nothing to do with me' reads to me like that for now #Really digging the way Dr. Ratio contrasts or parallels her. How she talks about keeping a serene mask until the situation is ascertained #and talking about emotions and feelings being able to be analysed and dissected‚ the root of which found #In the promotional video immediately after she says the thing about masks‚ Ratio appears talking precisely about the same thing #It's so cool how both also take advantage in their fighting style of the weaknesses of the enemies #Ruan Mei with the weakness break effect and Ratio with the debuffs #Ruan Mei didn't seem as scornful of Ratio and the Guild as Herta seemed but Ruan Mei is also less open #The leaked line of Ratio about her (I can't recall exactly but it wasn't anything we haven't seen in the new Ruan Mei short‚#something about how the true intentions of her research are not what she stated and that she is actually the most ambitious member #of the Genius Society)‚ while not truly negative‚ doesn't seem positive either. But he perhaps isn't as callous #as he is when he talks about Herta and Screwllum. Or perhaps he is being even more so #I'm looking forwards to their interactions and the development of the relationship between the Guild and the Society as a whole #But also the dynamics and problems inside the Genius Society itself #They all seem to have their all personal and selfish agenda which could be source of clash‚ whereas the Guild seems more people driven #Even if they have at times pretty ugly methods. Not they the Genius Society doesn't #Ajfjsjd anyway I wonder if the Ratio and Ruan Mei parallels and contrasts will be truly explored or if it will be left in the air #just to sell either character more #But it seems sooo intriguing and so shady and I'm so into how two faces or representation of the same Aeon or under the same drive #could approach a similarish issue. Or how could one view the other. And how in general all that will develop #I've been looking forwards to more insight on the Guild/Genius Society confrontation since very early on haha #I am loving Ruan Mei *sighs* deranged #I talk too much

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flower-yi · 4 months

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VERITAS RATIO who knows many a things—most of them beyond you, in all honesty—but cannot form the epiphany that the fluttering in his chest at the sight of you is love.

all his realizations of the late are centered around you. it is you that forces him to act all soft, gentle, tender and all things that he has never thought that he would ever feel. it's outrageous that he finds himself speaking in a low voice, explaining to you concepts that you should understand at this point—seriously, have you not been paying attention?—but his usual attitude is flipped on its back, and he cannot help but get lost in the wonder your eyes are sparkling in.

veritas notices that his patience—usually short—is lengthened even when you ask a question that has him deadpan at you, slowly succumbing to irritation but you look expectant, too used to him answering each and every of your questions. since when have you started relying on him for knowledge? it is known that you are smart as he is.

he is aware that the disease known as ignorance is difficult to treat when the blind worship of genii remains rampant. he has told you many times never to repeat the idiotic actions of those around you, to never once worship a genius.

but you only respond with a smile, and some knowing look in your eye. veritas has half the mind to question it but disregards the impulse with a sigh.

(it's because you have no need of worshiping one, really. you suppose it is enough to replace the blind worship he talks about—because you are sure you are not blindly loving him.)

#hanyi-writing #veritas ratio #dr ratio #honkai star rail #veritas ratio x reader #dr ratio x reader #honkai star rail x reader #hsr x reader #THE BRAINROT WAS SO STRONG I HAD TO FORCE MYSELF TO POST THIS 😩#or i'm never shutting up about veritas lol #ok look i used genii instead of genius cuz it sounds pompous/arrogant af lol. i know veritas in the quest says geniuses #but seriously genii is better lolll (i guess they used geniuses cuz he isn't that pompous?? 🤣🤣 im cackling loll idk)#OK I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO PUT IT INTO WORDS BUT MC'S LOVE IS LIKE... REVERENTIAL???? ugh who knows anymore i just want to kiss him!#i guess it's like an argenti type of beat?!?!? even that type of love is beyond me... oops...

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