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Lines are starting to be drawn in the war... and the Avengers have to decide which side they fall on, and who is going where...

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Um,Excuse me in Layman's terms in seems like in a post regarding Civil War it says that Tony is willing to sacrifice lives,...they make it sound like he's willing to...Kill his friends or something!?Deep down I think that I know it isn't true, but anyway I hope that it wasn't meant to be written that way,Either way this question is meant purely beacause I Love him and I'm...seeking reassurance I guess!? 😢💔

I don't know what post you're talking about -- but I would say that that's more of a figure of speech for comics Civil War, because finding a solution that will preserve life is absolutely Tony's priority. He's willing to do a lot of bad things so that people won't end up dead. The things he is willing to do do in fact involve other people getting hurt -- but they're not dying.

(If it's my post, I don't remember writing a post like that, but I would say that "sacrifice lives" is being used as a metaphorical proxy for the other things he is willing to sacrifice (say, freedom), but the thing he is specifically not willing to sacrifice in CW is actual human life. So I hope I didn't write that, because that seems prone to misinterpretation, as you say. If it's not my post, then... that's not how I would put it and I'm not standing by that statement.)

I'd say that in other comics events we have evidence that Tony would in theory be willing to sacrifice others' lives for the greater good. I mean, in Hickmanvengers, specifically, he is participating in their incursion trolley-problem. He builds bombs to destroy the other Earths. When it comes down to it, of course, he can't pull the trigger, but I get the impression that, in theory, he'd say that he could sacrifice a small number of people to spare a larger number of people who would otherwise die by inaction. (He also can't actually do it, FWIW.) He's not an arms dealer anymore, no, but he's also not a strict pacifist; I think you could get him into a situation where he'd think that the best moral choice possible might involve someone dying. And there are definitely villains whose deaths he would condone -- I mean, that's what we get in Operation Galactic Storm. He has killed people. He's not proud of it, but he's willing to do it. (This is true of most superheroes, I would think.)

But in Civil War? The plans he makes are specifically to avoid getting other people killed. We find out his reasoning in Casualties of War and The Confession. He knew that the government had plans to run Project Wideawake -- the Sentinel program that is usually the thing the government tries to do to mutants -- with all superhumans as the target, and therefore he knew that if Registration happened, and Wideawake happened, a bunch of of people would die. So he gets in there and gets in charge of Registration and does a bunch of things that are really pretty terrible, like building prisons and imprisoning his friends who don't register. He does this because imprisonment is a better choice than death. Because if someone else runs Registration -- we know this canonically, from What If Civil War, where we see a world in which Gyrich runs Registration -- his friends are absolutely going to die. He very specifically picks the solution that doesn't involve killing them. He is willing to sacrifice their happiness and freedom and so on, and he's willing to do that because the other choice is sacrificing their lives. So I think in CW he is very specifically not willing to sacrifice lives. (Other than his own. There are a few statements he makes to Sentry in New Avengers that suggest he'd be fine with dying for the cause.)

And the thing that really messes him up is, as we find out in The Confession, that he does all of this to try to keep people safe and alive... and Steve dies anyway. The one person whose death he was most trying to prevent is the person who dies anyway. Granted, it's not his fault (even though he believes it is) and it's also not because of Registration (even though he possibly believes it is), but what really, really hurts him is Steve's death, because that was absolutely unacceptable to him. And it happened anyway.

So, yeah, no, in Civil War, I would say that life is the thing Tony is not willing to sacrifice, and that all the actions he takes are meant to preserve human life.

However, I must inform you that sometimes comics are bad and there are multiple comics where Tony does in fact straight-up kill his friends. It's just that none of those are Civil War.

Mostly it happens because Tony is under some form of mind-control, as in The Crossing, which is, incidentally, the worst comic book I have ever read and it's hard to say what he does or doesn't believe in it. But I think that we're supposed to think that all of the murders he commits are indeed at Kang's instigation.

And there is, unfortunately, Cantwell's recent Iron Man run, in which Tony, who is at the time addicted to morphine and making some very bad decisions, gets the Power Cosmic and murders Rhodey when Rhodey tries to stop him from taking over New York. This isn't a villain AU or anything. This is one of several reasons that this run is dead to me. So, uh, sometimes canon itself is OOC and can contradict things previously established in canon. This is a fun thing that can happen in comic books. I am using the word "fun" sarcastically.

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Damn look at them krees

Bwaaaaa

Requisite Korath mirrors moment

Could Be Interesting

As with many other readers of Black panther I feel like T'challa has been disrespected numerous times in the past years and is in decline in terms of importance within his own mythos(which is both bizarre & sad) . That being said I believe I found one good thing about the current run. This will be spoilers for Black Panther issue #12..

Jhai was recently found to be alive and him and T'challa have a conversation on taking over the universe. T'challa rejects said plan and now has to find a way to take out jhai forces. Due to him having contingency plans on every hero he has to find heroes he didn't have plans on. Over the next couple of pages he recruits Shuri,Tosin,Omolola,Gentle,Imani and the Buffalo soldier (from the Colonizer small arc). I know we all eventually want T'challa to be respected again so I feel this mostly Wakanda group could very well function as a Avengers for Wakanda. Now I know similar groups in the past have come about but non have been as organic to me. One thing I realized especially during the intergalactic empire war is how despite looking cool T'challa had to call on heroes mainly from outside Wakanda(storm,Luke cage, patriot etc). Not counting the buffalo soldier each of these people come from different aspects of Wakanda.Imani comes from the current democratic rulership of Wakanda.. Gentle has dual citizenship with Krakoa and Wakanda, Tosin hails from the countryside.. Omolola was a sleeper agent for Wakanda and Shuri/T'challa are royalty of the past Wakanda. Having this diverse group to me would help not only make Wakanda mythos more interesting but also wouldn't have to downplay T'challa especially if he leads them. All we would need is future arcs to show T'challa working his way back to being a good leader. Hell thinking about it how cool would it be if this group evolved into a team in charge of protecting the entire Wakandan galactic empire 😤..

(On a smaller note I also want the Dora Milaje/Midnight Angels to return as protectors and not continue Their hate towards T'challa. Actually could include them as part of T'challa comeback tour of getting in good graces with Wakanda..

Sorry in advance if they actually patched things up. I can't recall that they did 100%)

How do y'all feeling about this idea

Oh, Nelly!

Patrick Olliffe - Al Milgrom

Mark's Remarks from March 16th, 1993.