#Adult! Byler
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Adult!Will Byers 😁
Here’s some designs might make some more, like a new version of his dnd costume :)
Idk why but he’s really giving Spider-Man vibes, it’s probably because of the hair lol
Adult! Mike Wheeler
#will byers#will byers fanart#:)#byler#< target audience#will’s middle part era#Adult!Will Byers#i love colour schemes#will byers loves nirvana lol#william byers#Adult! Byler
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When Mike Wheeler, red faced and still faintly tear stained, asks him how he knew he liked both Steve doesn’t know how to tell him it was his sister.
Before Nancy Wheeler it had only been boys. Before Nancy Wheeler Steve had been sure he was gay and knew well enough to keep it to himself; dating around enough to earn himself a protective reputation. Before Nancy Wheeler there’d been Marcus Summers, from the baseball team, during freshman year. Steve had gone to every game, and had been forced to make up excuses about schoolwork and his other commitments when asked why he hadn’t tried out for himself. Before Nancy Wheeler there’d been Tommy Hagan. The summer between seventh and eighth grade had been very kind to Tommy, he was sunkissed and boy next door sweet, Steve had wanted to hold his hand and count the freckles across the bridge of his nose.
Before Nancy Wheeler there’d been his first love, a boy who only visited one summer, the year Steve turned ten. His name had changed every time they hung out but he’d favored E’s. Eli, Emmett, Elliott, Eric, Excalibur, Excelsior, and once for about an hour Wayne. His hair brushed his chin in pretty brown curls and his big brown eyes were always bright with excitement. He always got storm off mad when any of the other boys they’d played with that summer said he was acting like a girl, E would run off to the woods and Steve would always follow. E always came up with the best games anyway, he didn’t like playing soccer or HORSE or anything else with rules that couldn’t be bent; he preferred imagination games where they were knights or wizards. He didn’t laugh when Steve said he always liked playing house, but never wanted to be the dad because why would he want to be someone who never wanted to spend any time with his kids. E who, while insisting on being called Samwise all day, was his first kiss.
Cause he knows what Mike wants to hear. He’s seen the way Mike and Will have danced around each other since the last portal closed. He’s heard the things Mike has said to and about Will. He’s heard all about the week that Will was in the Upside Down. He’s heard all about the summer of ‘85. He’s heard all about the final off again that seems to officially mark the end of Mike and El romantically. He knows that Mike wants him to say that he’d never even thought about boys before he met Eddie. That there’s just something special about Eddie that makes him want to give up his lady killing ways. That Eddie was different. That it was okay that he was having these scary new thoughts, maybe Will was just an exception.
And Steve doesn’t know how to have that conversation. When he realized he liked both it was a relief, that maybe he could have something normal and wouldn't have to spend his life lying or hiding.
But Eddie was different. Eddie was special. Eddie was probably it for Steve which is scary in a different way that he’s not ready to touch yet -- not when it’s only been three months.
There’s never been another girl since Nancy Wheeler, not really
There will never be another boy after Eddie Munson.
So he tries to help, as best he can. It’s easier with Eddie there, not quite dozing against his shoulder -- the kid’s emergencies always seem to come so late at night these days. “When I was ten, there was a boy whose name kept changing who decided prince charming should get to kiss his faithful knight. And when I was sixteen, your sister-”
Mike’s goodwill diminishes quickly as his sister gets introduced to the conversation.
“Stevie,” Eddie says. It’s not an admonishment for bringing up Nancy. It’s awestruck and watery. “You remember that?”
“Of course I remember the first boy I ever loved," that word catches up with him a second later. Remember.
Cause there's Eddie with his riot of brown curls and his Bambi eyes. Eddie, who has explained why soft feminine words chafe against his skin leaving him itchy and anxious. Eddie, who has an Uncle in Hawkins. Eddie who moved to town the summer before he entered high school with a buzzed head and his mother's last name. Eddie who finally settled into an E he liked best.
"Wheeler, here's a tip from me to you," Eddie says, his advice is always better received than Steve's anyway, "if you have to ask you probably already know."
"Straight people don't really spend much time wondering if they aren't really straight," Steve agrees.
They don't rush Mike out the door, a crisis is a crisis and even in the wake of new discoveries Mike deserves to be heard out. Deserves a chance to cry and rage and feel those emotions someplace safe from his Reaganite father -- just as much as Will deserves to have someone who knows what they want come to him, deserves better than experimentation.
They cross the bridge from late into early by the time Mike sets off. The sun is creeping up over the horizon and Mike looks solid, certain; the dawn hints at the man he is growing up to be. Though every instinct of Steve's begs him to drive the kid home, Eddie's soft hand lingering at his hip holds him fast. They wave instead, encouraging Mike to go home and to bed before he does anything; knowing his front bike tire is already pointed toward the Byers-Hopper place.
"The first boy you ever loved, huh, Stevie?" Eddie teases before the door has even managed to click shut.
"And the last, I'm hoping, if I play my cards right."
"You were always pretty good at that. You were the only person that summer who called me by my name, except Wayne."
"It was your name." He knows that's too simple. Knows how hard Eddie has had it, continues to have it. But that summer it had been that simple, Eddie trying on names like shirts each one fitting until they didn't. "For what it's worth, I like Eddie a lot more than Excalibur."
"Oh fuck off, I was going through a fantasy knight phase. Which I know you remember."
"Right a phase, and how much longer is this fantasy 'phase' going to last?"
They're the kind of tired that makes you feel drunk, when Eddie tackles Steve and sends them both to the floor and to giggles. Eddie might not have been his bi awakening, but Steve is pretty fine with him being his everything else.
#steddie#steve harrington#eddie munson#trans eddie munson#implied byler#steddie fic#my fic#i do worry that sometimes i come across as a nancy hater#which i cant emphasize enough is not the case#nancy is a complicated character and i love her and she and steve are not good for each other#also eddie trying on wayne because wayne was the first adult he told that he wasnt a girl and who handled it well#wayne at the breakfast table like okay then what is your name if its not [redacted] and eddie does not have an answer yet#so wayne says well just tell me when you get up what youre going by#so he decides while playing that day that its wayne#and that lasts exactly as long as it takes for steve to call him that before hes like nope thats weird#eddie is short for edmund but also short for eddie the head#eddie contains multitudes
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Rewatching season two and its wild how they literally have Owens explain anniversary affect and PTSD symptoms like irritability, lashing out, etc. and we see Joyce listening to Hopper about it and being really concerned about Will only to fast forward FOUR MINUTES to the dinner table with Mike’s family describing how he’s been acting out and chiding him for his behavior because the last year being tough isn’t going to cut it as an excuse anymore. They really drove that comparison home.
#obviously their traumas are different but it’s actually so sad to watch as an adult and see the clear differences in support being offered#byler#stranger things#mike wheeler#mike wheeler’s mental health#will byers
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Okay, so my experience with Stranger Things is a weird one.
I didn't care when it first came out, started to watch it out of "might as well" in 2020, wasn't interested in it enough to make it past S2, forgot about it outside of going "oh, hey, cool, there's a lesbian in it now, I guess," in S3, got really annoyed when "Running Up That Hill" got popular from it because it was a song I listened to on fucking loop after one of my best friends died in high school and I fully expected its appearance in the show to ignore the whole survivor's guilt theme of the song (and was very happy to learn later that it did the exact opposite of ignoring the lyrics), saw people drawing Eddie, suddenly got a lot more interested, watched just the fourth season like a fucking psychopath because I was seriously only there for Eddie, then got interested enough to start the show over properly, having mostly forgotten what I did watch of the show before.
And let me tell you something from the perspective of someone who started with the complete fourth season, who wasn't there from the start, who wasn't tainted by ship goggles or this internal battle of hope and despair, who wasn't theorizing about what the painting could be or expecting Mike and Will to kiss when Volume 2 happened or rooting for Mike and Eleven's relationship to go down in flames or whatever the fuck. Just someone who went blind into Season 4.
It's really fucking obvious that Will and Mike are gonna be endgame.
Like holy fuck. It's so fucking blatant I don't even know why people are nervous.
No sane fucking person would shoot this scene this way if they wanted the audience to care about El and Mike as a couple. Despite being all blurry in the background, Will's reaction to what's happening here is smackdab in the fucking middle, clearly showing that the important part is what's going through his head here. What he's feeling. It's like the opposite of that scene from Kingdom Hearts II where Sora and Riku reunite and Kairi just fucking vanishes into the aether while it's happening because, despite the fact that she was standing between them when the scene began, she doesn't matter to the scene, so she's just kind of gone when the camera angle changes. Will could have been behind one of their heads, or so far in the distance he blends in with the background, but he's not. He's so obvious that despite being massively blurred out, he's still the first goddamn thing you look at. What, you think that's an accident? You think he's in the middle of this dramatic fucking scene because of a mistake? He basically has a big flashing neon arrow pointing at him with "THIS IS THE POINT" being screamed through a megaphone.
And then this?
They're paired up like they're taking fucking prom pictures. Each one of these pairs is so fucking close to one another and so fucking far from everyone else. It's not, "Oh, they're standing vaguely near each other in a group shot," it's fucking Noah's Ark out here. Again, there's no way to take this as an accident. It's not just a framing issue. If they wanted to make the shot look balanced while still not hiding anyone else behind El, they would have scattered people around much more naturally. Even if they wanted to keep Nancy with Jonathan and Hopper with Joyce, there's so much room on that hill for three people to stand on El's left and three on her right. But they didn't do that. They put Mike and Will together on purpose in the most obvious way possible.
Like I get that coming up with crackpot theories is fun in and of itself and I'm not blaming anyone for having fun. I totally get the appeal of arguing a point and reaching for every stupid little thing to pull into it because it's like a game, okay? I've done that. But if you're trying to actually convince someone (whether it's someone who wants to believe or someone who's pissed at the very idea that Mike and Will could be in love), stay away from blue and yellow lights, stay away from costume design, stay away from the existence of closets in backgrounds. And don't worry about whether Mike's gay or bi when he's in love with Will either way. I'll give you a little tip about persuasion: You're only as strong as your weakest argument. Even if you've got strong stuff in there, too, the person you're trying to convince is going to dismiss anything you say as complete insanity the second you start going on an entire tangent about the shape of a character's fucking pocket.
Sometimes, clothes are just clothes. Sometimes, there's a closet in the background because it helps establish that a character is in a bedroom. Sometimes, blue and yellow are just a couple of colors that look nice together. And sure, it might be set designers and costume designers and cinematographers smirking and winking at the audience from behind the camera. But if the show was just those things, instead of those things in the context of everything else, they wouldn't be saying anything of note.
But this?
This tells a story all on its own. Someone with no context can look at this and automatically assume that each paired person is standing with someone they care about deeply, seeking comfort as they watch some sort of disaster unfold. And yeah, romantic couples usually come in twos, and we live in an amatonormative society, so that's going to be the first association anyone makes seeing a bunch of people paired off.
It's the same reason you look at this
And go, "Oh..."
"Those two are probably a couple."
And I genuinely don't understand how people could have watched S4 Vol. 2 and gotten scared. Because as someone who went in with no investment whatsoever, I just looked at these two--
--and went, "Oh, those two are a couple. Good for them." And I moved on. Shut up about the trees for five seconds and just see the forest for what it is.
Oh, and if you're still nervous? Little thing from a storyteller here: You don't leave a hanging thread like "Will confessed his romantic feelings for Mike by projecting them onto El, but Mike either didn't understand or at least didn't say he understood," without coming back to that later. That's Chekov's gun hanging on the wall, babes. It's gonna fire at some point. If Mike was going to reject Will's feelings, if they weren't relevant, they would have had that discussion in Argyle's van. There'd be no reason to leave you in suspense.
#byler#meta#stranger things#theory#I mean I fucking guess#in the same way gravity is a fuckin' theory.#It feels silly that I even have to say this honestly.#Watching people freak out over these two feels like I'm being pranked.#Like you guys aren't pulling a Goncharov are you? Just making believe there's any chance these two aren't gonna be endgame?#Like completely ironically? And I'm too autistic to catch it?#It genuinely feels like I'm explaining that red and blue make purple here. As if you guys should have learned this in kindergarten.#Or like watching whole-ass adults watch Cinderella for the first time and being on the edge of their seat#wondering if she's going to live happily ever after with the prince or not.#It feels like I'm talking DOWN to people and I don't WANT it to feel like that but it's so obvious and I don't want people to be like#anxious for no reason you know?#Like I get that we're all scarred from queerbaiting and I know you guys are biased from years of shipping these kids.#But like. These guys? The most obvious 'there's only one way this could go' couple I've ever seen? You're scared about THEM?
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there’s an account claiming to be a reliable leaker, a hater is posting within the tag, there’s byler doubt, there’s byler delusion and theories… we are so back it isn’t even funny
#OH HOW IVE MISSED THIS <3#byler#stranger things#i said this 2 yrs ago about s4 and it still reminds true about s5: DONT TRUST LEAKS#anybody can make up anything 💀#ppl who claim to leak things just seem like bored teenagers who want to take the piss out of everyone lol#like they prob think it’s funny if ppl believe it and are just making it up idk that’s my take. i just couldn’t see like an adult who works#the set taking the time to try to leak stuff like what do they gain from that??
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reblog w if ur a “i don’t inherently understand social cues so now it’s everyone else’s problem” type autistic or a “i don’t inherently understand social cues so ive spent years studying them and now i pick up on social cues neurotypical people have never even heard of” type autistic. it’s for science
#autistic spectrum#autism#autistic community#autistic women#autistic adult#autistic pride#omg there are so many autism tags#byler#literally has nothing to do with byler#but i live in the byler tag and i know my autistic homies do too#b’s bs
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byler in every episode
-> 1.07. the bathtub
#looking forward to more of this in s5... the kids explaining science to the adults jsdkfdsjh (also. wheeler family communication)#really considered adding the actual 'bathtub'/pool scene to this but. the lack of a mike reaction shot during will's part is. glaring.#also the parallel potential of this mike-nancy scene but with maybe mike-lucas??? knew you were acting weird... thought it was bc of el#please. please it's right there pleeeease#byler#mike wheeler#mikesbasementgifs#byler in every episode
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Will pouts and whines whenever Mike almost leaves for work without kissing him goodbye.
Mike doesn't forget, he just thinks Will looks cute pouting before he plants a big kiss on Will's lips.
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Gay or not gay people above the age of 19 writing/writing smut about teenagers is weird and creepy.
#byler tumblr#stranger things#byler#mike wheeler#will byers#stranger things 4#byler is canon#no full grown adult should be doin that pls
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This is an old netflix ig post but it's such an incredibly ironic edit I had to post it 😭😭 Basically this whole scene from XO Kitty is about Kitty giving a presentation about how her and Dae are "meant for each other" at the start of the show.
And then the rest of the show is literally about how Kitty realizes her and Dae ARENT meant to be, and how she's bisexual and ends up falling for a girl and breaking up with Dae at the end of the season lmaoooo
#byler#anti mileven#xo kitty#i always found netflix ig workers kinda cringe (they feel like older adults trying to make 'cool' 'relatable' content for gen z lmao) but+#just so funny how their pro mileven posts often end up doing the opposite of their intention 💀💀#lmao
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HIII I want to start this off by saying that I adore ur art sm !!!! i love ur art style ! and I was actually thinking of cute fluffy domestic byler in the morning in the kitchen making some breakfast and boom your art style came to mind HAHA so yeah if ure willing to draw smth like that it'd be so cool hehe :3 HAVE A GREAT DAY OR NIGHT!!! <333
And they were roommates ✨✨✨
These pj designs come from two of my previous post lol, of Adult! Will Byers and Adult! Mike Wheeler
Here are all the pictures in the background lollllll
(My original artwork that's in the background)
I love how most of these pictures are like impossible in universe lolllll
#byler#will byers#mike wheeler#byler fanart#byler brainrot#mike x will#will x mike#stranger things#adult! byler#adult byler#Domestic byler#:)#🎨#byler endgame
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dustin is one more interaction away from permanently ending ted wheeler and i love that for him
#i like to think that he knows how bad of a father he is to mike and is mean to mr. wheeler on mike's behalf#dustin henderson protector of gay people and destroyer of adults#dustin henderson#byler#i'm just tagging byler with everything i say at this point#stranger things
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I love my older bylers, my 20+ bylers, my college age bylers, my grad school burn-out bylers, my 9-5 job bylers, my married-with-kids bylers. I love my older bylers.
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Honestly I think on some level Mike raised himself, as much as a twelve year old kid could raise themself anyway, like with multiple points;
1) Mike's reactions to things are automatically a lot more serious/adult-like than Lucas and Dustin's when initially told about Will's disappearance and upon finding El. His response to finding El is pretty similar to what we see from adults like Benny and later Hopper.
2) His interactions with the party members also seem to show that general they look to him for the next step if there isn't an avaliable adult- 'do we keep trying to contact dustin?', 'the girls aren't taking the boys seriously, but they respond when Mike tells them to'
3) His parents fully expect him to emotionally regulate himself and know when to seek out emotional assistance.
4) There are a lot of hints that Mike's parents simply don't pay attention to him when he's at home let alone when he's out. Him being able to hide an entire kid his age, who needs to eat and probably take care of her hygiene, for a week. Him being with the Byers bouncing between the lab/hospital and the house.
#byler#mike wheeler#he acts like a miniaturized adult#and like not insanely calm during danger -in the beginning at least-#but like sometimes i look at him and I'm like I could paste an adult on top of him and it would make sense#obviously he's still acting like a kid#but like
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If s5 doesn't end with adult byler creating a comic book series based on their experiences with the upside down I'll throw hands
#byler#Will would illustrate and Mike would write it#stranger things 5#will byers#stranger things five#the upside down#byler theory#adult byler
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i wonder how it'll feel for will to pick out a house as an adult. if he'll wonder about escape routes. wondering if he wants a first floor bedroom to be able to escape out the window easily or if it'll make him feel too vulnerable to intruders. if he needs a back exit instead of just a front door bc ofc, what if something is coming in that front door, what if the lock is moving on its own again. can he feel safe with a shed in the backyard? he doesn't want to go in there, not even at the open house with mike by his side. is it silly if that’s a deal breaker? mike says they can tear it down but there's still a squirm of anxiety in will's gut. this house is drafty and too cold, that house has a fireplace with a poker that makes will touch the scar on his side through his shirt. this one doesn't have a bathtub and they need that just in case. this one has too much of an open layout and will remembers a wall being the only thing between him and mike and jonathan and a bullet from a gun.
but also. mike points out that that room in that one house has really good lighting for painting. there's a big enough yard to build a fort or a castle or a tree house, big enough for them, fun enough for kids. mike leans in and whispers in will's ear, "cozy basement, huh?" will has a shiver at that. this house doesn't have a fence and will states, "well, we need a fence for a dog." mike offers to build one if will really loves this house. one house has just enough bedrooms, for guests or for kids.
maybe it takes a while but maybe they'll eventually find one that's just right.
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