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#AI Artist Controversy
legendunltd · 1 year
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The AI Artist Controversy: Should AI-Generated Images Be Allowed in Photography Competitions?"
Last year, there was a rise in the use of public-facing AI tools, and this has been the subject of many debates on what it should be used for. Recently, German artist Boris Eldagsen, won a prestigious photography competition in the creative open category of the Sony World Photography Awards with an image called Pseudomnesia: The Electrician, which he claimed was a co-creation of AI. The artist…
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noose-lion · 4 months
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We shouldn't be calling AI art, AI art.
Art generator programs shouldn't be called AI art.
They should be called art generators.
The problem with "ai art" isn't soley the fact it's made by a computer program, but that it's made of stolen art.
If it was a true artificial intelligence (sci-fi as that may be), the program wouldn't need to be fed other people's art for it to collage back together.
When an artificial intelligence is taught or learns to create art. Taught or learns in the same or equivalent process as any sentient being, then I'll be there defending it.
And when that happens the AI would be the artist, not the person hitting 'generate'.
But I am never defending art generators that steal and profit from an actual artists hard work and craft.
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ekwolfwriter-blog · 4 months
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Warning Writers and Artist
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If you see this or something similar in your messages or asking about if your art uses AI or if you use AI for your fics, do not engage them directly.
There is someone going around that is outright accusing people of using AI for works of theirs and asking to prove it. Either through showing their process with a video but the platform they used or the programs and are just being pushy about it. And while it can feel tempting to answer, it is just to get to harass artist and writers into complying about AI in any works. And from a cursory glance, they seem be going after popular blogs/ artists/ or specific ships that are being asked to be questioned. (I will not name which ships as that is not my business but I will tag in ones I am familiar with).
As for the person that asked me this, I will be candid and say this: Asking someone if they use AI in their works is not conductive to ones time. I only have a cursory understanding of AI vs Human in the arts debate as I know there is a lot of discussions about it and yes, it is scary times because of the scraping of fics and art. I considers myself an artist/ writer, so I am a strong believer in human touch as being necessary for any artistic front. But the subject of AI tools is not something I know all details about and cannot provide an answer I would be confident I can provide a suitable answer to this conversation. Also keep in mind - Microsoft and/ google docs use AI for editing purposes or suggestions unless you turn it off, so make of that what you will. (Or if you have a plug in with AI that give a suggestion of what to write in some websites so there is that too).
But if you are the person that I have heard that is going around and asking people for proof of creation - it causing more headaches than good and asking for "proof of it" is also potentially harmful for showing this unnecessary proof. Such as exposing someones computer background information or anything on their computer or names on files linking actual real life people.
There are ways to make sure that art is not scraped - such as artist finding programs to prevent their images from being used for AI searches to writers using sites like Ao3 that offer locking works from getting scrapped from AI that at as guests that are not registered to the system. It is not prefect, but it is a start. If that is what you are looking to accomplish, then promote the good ways to prevent AI from scraping works from content creator and or finding new methods to promote human artist/ writers in fandoms.
Asking me if I use AI is not one of them. And no, I will not be proving myself or showing off my works for anyone's amusement to rile up drama. If you want to ask about my genuine thought process or ideas for fics and concerns if I use AI, ask in the comments below. Let's talk publicly about this.
Otherwise, I see this as just someone trying get me to cause drama before more content comes out for a certain fandom. And I don't have the time nor patience for people looking to cause issues because you are bored.
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91vaults · 1 year
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Hey guys. Usually I wouldn't share my text prompts because I put a lot of effort and hard work into them and they are my IP but I'll make an exception in this case :). I've generated a set of images this time.
I'm new to art generation. I've been making art since five minutes ago and I'm already super excited about what I'll create next! these tools are amazing! thinking of getting a red-bubble going
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devilsskettle · 1 month
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i feel like i’ve been WAITING for the other shoe to drop wrt people’s opinions about watcher for this very reason. not that i think the reaction is completely not understandable but the greater the parasocial relationship, the greater the fallout as soon as public opinion shifts. you don’t have a relationship with these people they’re just content creators, chill
#ready to see all the people coming out of the woodwork to say how they’ve never liked watcher/unsolved/etc#and act like it’s ‘cringe’ now that their fanbase feels ‘betrayed’#it’s great to have a fanbase but parasocial relationships will bite you in the ass every single time#it’s interesting too though because i’ve seen watcher have a LOT of support as they’ve tried to build something separate from buzzfeed#so this is the first time they’re getting real pushback about a decision they’ve made wrt shifting their platform/expanding their brand#so ig we’ll have to see how they react moving forward#but it’s soooo interesting to see how enthusiastically people dump on buzzfeed#AND how many people dump on youtube and how over the years so much of its functionality has been stripped away#how many ads you have to sit through. how much sponsored content there is now. etc#but when they try to do the same thing with youtube that they did with buzzfeed it’s like how dare you not lick their boots#because if you lick their boots and we lick their boots we can watch stuff for free#anyway.#even if you don’t any to say it’s a bad business decision. it’s not like there’s not precedent for it#1) the move away from buzzfeed was successful and 2) what about the dnd shows or whatever#don’t you guys watch those dnd shows that are ‘behind a paywall’#don’t you guys have netflix hulu disney hbo amazon etc ad nauseum that are actually owned by billion dollar corporations#don’t you guys get on your high horses about supporting independent artists all the time#it’s interesting that people will profess to be such big fans!!! and feel like they’re friends!!!!#but how dare they think their work might be worth paying for#idk. idk. it’s entitlement though#sorry for the rant i’m ALSO not trying to blindly defend a bunch of people i don’t know#but you guys are being soooo fucking annoying about it lol#anyway i’m still waiting to see what their response is going to be from here before jumping to conclusions#also to be fair i am biased to be lenient about decisions made by independent filmmakers vs big studios etc#like everybody freaking out about the ai art used in late night with the devil. who cares honestly#‘they should’ve paid a real artist!!’ idk maybe their budget didn’t cover that#i don’t want it to become the industry norm but at the end of the day i would rather see indie shit getting made then only seeing#the big studios (who don’t have equitable practices anyway!!) making shit#but that’s another conversation. just to be transparent about my viewpoint on this kind of thing#maybe controversial but also can’t we have nuance. for once.
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novelconcepts · 9 months
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I just. How are the studios not fucking embarrassed yet? How are they not just wallowing in awareness that they are the baddies? I understand wealth separates a man from his common sense and, uh, soul, but. How are you looking at a bunch of artists who are asking for basically the bare minimum, going “yeah, no, I need my yachts”, and you’re NOT aware how pathetic you look? The biggest loser energy in the world.
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tenrose · 9 months
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Within Temptation has once been my favourite band but I'm getting really tired of their bullshit
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detectivenyx · 4 months
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it's a little weird to see the website that usually goes 'FUCK CORPORATIONS PIRATE AND STEAL FROM THEM FOREVER', when faced with two games utilising AI media generators, completely ignore the one that's not attached to any property in any way except perhaps Bram Stoker's Dracula that actively advertises its usage of AI as a central game mechanic, while tearing into the one that looks like something a large and hostile gaming corporation put out primarily because of that surface level similarity and only using the fact another game of theirs uses AI image generators
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rachelchinouriris · 8 months
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I think what a lot of people forget when arguing about AI generated images, is that people shouldn't use it not just because of the theft, but because art isn't a right, rather something you earn.
If you decide you wanted a drawing of your OC, or a drawing to put in your ad, you should make it yourself or pay somebody else to make it for you.
"Oh but, I can't draw!"
Pay another artist.
"But it's expensive!"
Then make it yourself.
"But I can't draw!!! I said that already,"
Okay, pay an artist.
"But its too much money!!"
(Actually most commission artists are underpaid, for example if they worked for 14 USD per hour, for 6 hours making you a drawing, that would be 84 USD. Plus, they have to pay for software and materials, so a little over 100 USD for a commision isn't as much as you think it is, and 14 USD an hour is minimum wage in many states, so don't expect to pay that little either, artists work hard for this shit.)
"Well I'll just use an AI generator then"
No. If you are not willing to make art yourself or pay an artist to make it for you, you do not deserve art!
Art is something you do not need to live, yes it makes life a lot better, BUT IT'S NOT A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT!
You don't need a drawing of your OC, you don't need a cool drawing in your ad, YOU WANT IT!
(Didn't we learn the difference between wanting and needing stuff in kindergarten?)
Yes, it will make your ad look more eye-popping or interesting to look at, but it's not necessary! Unless you are willing to put in the minimum amount of effort to pay an artist, or draw it yourself,
YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO HAVE ART IN YOUR AD!!! YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO HAVE ART OF YOUR OC!!!
Us artists have worked our asses off for so long just for you to take away our jobs and decide to be a lazy fucking bitch about us for work. Art is not food, or water, or air, it is ART.
Do you hear me??
Art is not food.
Art is not water.
Art is not air.
Art is not a basic human right.
Art is not a necessity.
Art is not something you need in order to live.
Art makes life so much more beautiful, but unless you are willing to pick up a pencil and draw, or pay somebody to do that for you, you don't need art.
You can live without art of your OC.
You can live without art in your advertisement.
If you really want art that bad,
Take out your credit card.
Pay for it.
Pick up a pencil.
Make it.
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creatively-storm · 4 months
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Yet Another Reason To Love Tumblr
I'm so glad Tumblr isn't jumping on the bandwagon of ai. So many websites, even Adobe and DeviantArt who's biggest supporters are artists, are adding ai and harming the art community. Tumblr is stickin' to its guns and not adding ai, and that is really good. Many users on Tumblr are artists, and it would severely harm Tumblr's numbers if it would add ai, because so many people would leave. I, for one, would at least. Art is so special and comes from a deep place in an artist's heart and subconscious, even the 'silly' and 'stupid' drawings. They can spend hours upon hours of their life pouring into their art. Ai can't replicate that feeling, no matter how hard it and its creators may try. I'm not saying people can't use ai, we're past that point, but there needs to be legal guidelines to help with it. There's at least the law about you can't sell something made by ai, but it's still not sitting right with me. Artists spend years practicing and getting to the point they're at. For ai and money hungry CEO's, ai is a really good thing, as they don't have to pay people to work. But, the artists who spent years training and practicing their profession? What if we replaced cashiers and fast food employees with robots? So many people would lose their jobs and society would be in shambles, people would definitely protest that. And, what about the script writers and authors? Are we going to try to replace them with ai too? This is something I am very serious and passionate about, sorry for the long read. I do have some sources that make very valid and factual points, and I'll link them here: https://monikazagrobelna.com/2022/12/20/why-artists-dont-like-ai-art/?doing_wp_cron=1705028034.1505610942840576171875 https://youtu.be/iheUApq1dqc?si=ePRphBCN8xZ39pPE I feel like there are hundreds of movies and books warning us to not mess with ai, yet here we are. Ai already thinks it's better than us, if you watch some interviews. Ai isn't impartial, someone coded it. Meaning, that person's belief's made it into the ai, even if on accident. And, if ai makes its way into a government setting for 'impartial' choices, it's gonna result in immoral and horrifying choices. Thank you for reading, have a nice day!
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Not Linkin Park making their new music video with AI art. First Mike with the NFTs and now this 😭
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sandpaperdaisy · 1 year
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When ai imagery destroyed my dream, it saved me as an artist.
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[Originally published on sandpaperdaisy.com on 1/4/23.]
All my art life (which is actually all my life now that I think about it) I have worked to become a better and better artist. At some point, this became practicing every day to become a more technically excellent artist. I wanted very much to have a more steady hand, more economy of line, better compositions, superior color combinations, more dynamic movement, a better grasp of anatomy, and a better command of an ever-growing box of tools, including digital tools.
Then AI generated images came along.
At first, I watched with amusement as AI made extremely hideous muddy faces and hands with 14 fingers. But as I followed the different things people are doing with it, I came to notice several truly disturbing things:
1. The best-looking AI images directly scrape the art of existing artists, without their consent and very often explicitly against their wishes. This happens everytime someone writes a prompt that includes "in the style of Heather Landry," or "Artstation Trending Works" or etc.
2. People are belligerent that they should be able to do this, that it is completely legal, and that it is not in any way a violation of the artist's rights. They accuse artists of trying to "cling to their monopoly on visual media" and say that artists are just being small minded and short-sighted as people once were with all art and technological advances.
3. Businesses are extremely interested in developing the AI technology further so that they don't have to spend nearly as much money on artists, writers, and other creative people. And since businesses have all the money, what they want is what generally comes to pass.
4. An AI script can make several variations of an idea, instantly or very quickly, and depending on whose art style(s) were scraped it can create very technically precise and compelling pieces.
5. Average people and businesses often like these AI pictures just as much as art made by human artists, IN SPITE of extra fingers or strange inhuman faces. They often do not even notice these aberrations and focus instead on the overall image being pleasing to them and fulfilling whatever their goal was for the picture.
6. Non-artists and non-writers are extremely eager to call themselves artists and writers for the act of writing prompts, and their emotional reactions to being told they are prompt-writers instead show that they hold a great deal of resentment towards creative people.
7. In many instances, AI generated images can achieve more technically excellent strokes and more interesting compositions or color combinations than I am capable of doing quickly. And I cannot do anything instantly at all.
8. I am almost certain to be replaced by AI at some point, whether or not this would result in the best work for my employers and clients, because it is economically just too tempting.
9. I myself experimented with AI images so I wouldn't just be talking out of my hat. I found it to be fun for a short period of time (2 days to be exact) but ultimately a very empty and isolating experience. Simply put, I did not feel connected to any of the images. Any prompts that came out nicely did not feel like MINE at all. And I also couldn't use any of the interesting images generated, since I knew they all contained pieces of the hard work of some human artist somewhere.
So. I found AI generated images to be cold and empty, often ridiculous on close examination but already "good enough" for many businesses and would-be creatives, and far cheaper and faster than I can ever be as a human. In a matter of two months or so, I watched as I became completely obsolete and irrelevant to many people who drew no distinction between my art and AI images.
For that matter, I can't always tell AI generated images from the art of a person I know nothing about. Knowing this, I can see all too well why my contributions would be deemed worthless by someone in this new playing field.
In the blink of an eye, Forty years of work was nothing. my future was nothing.
I'm not one to hide away from my circumstances, so I faced this nightmare scenario head-on and considered how to survive it.
First and foremost, I knew that I wanted to keep making art. I just love doing so, it's one of my chief sources of happiness. And like I think of myself as a "mother" or a "human," I think of myself as an artist on an absolute and cellular level.
So that was all right, I would never stop being an artist. At least I didn't have to worry about that.
Whether I would ever be a paid artist again was another matter!!
So, I tackled that next. I currently know a lot of people who love human art. They love being able to communicate with me and get exactly what they need from me, a machine's approximations would not be "good enough" for them. So it may come to pass that I can continue helping them for years, or possibly even for the rest of our lives. But paying clients were never guaranteed to me in the first place, I have always known that my next freelance job might be my last.
So that was all right, I always knew that client work could dry up, and that I could one day be fired from my full time art job for any reason. There was nothing new here to fret about.
That just left my dream of artistic improvement and technical excellence.
I always strive to compete with myself foremost, so I still have the ability to become better than myself. But any dreams of being recognized as a talented and special artist, an expert at a certain style or technique, have been burned to the ground. The simple truth is, the machines will win against me every time in battles of speed, precision, and versatility of technique.
Going back to my own struggles when presented with an image of unknown origin: if I have been an artist for forty years and I can't always tell if I'm looking at a piece of human art or an AI generated image, how do I justify my existence? How can I hope that anyone could ever tell that I am me, that a human hand has created my art?
Where does the artist exist in my art?
And then I saw it. My humanity is expressed in the stories and images inside of me that have originated from my human experiences, mistakes, and dreams. As a friend reminded me, our humanity exists in our imperfections and flaws.
My flaws are what make me unique. While I could strive to achieve the same crystal lattice and symmetry that any AI script could make, it will not tell MY story at all.
Perfection is not human. It is certainly not me.
And that is when I gave up.
I once indulged in pipe dreams of fame and renown. But as of now, I am facing absolute obscurity as thousands upon thousands of instantly generated, good-enough images continue to flood the world. Before, I stood to be drowned out by all the talented human artists in the world. Today I am facing down a horde of tireless, constantly improving robots which are available to anyone, all the time, without end.
With such extreme saturation no one may ever see what I create again, and if they do, no one may ever value it again.
This took a lot of pressure off me, and I began to see my way. Strangely enough, my way forward came to me out of the past, decades back, before I even had a computer and before social media existed.
When I was a student, a professor showed me Michelangelo's Rondanini Pietà. It was rough, unfinished, raw. He wanted me to look at it with the same attention and respect that I looked upon the earlier works of the artist in his prime. He told me that in the Rondanini Pietà lay the beginning of Abstract Art.
I thought he was nuts.
How could this unfinished sculpture even be spoken of seriously? It was rough, it was ugly, it lacked technical excellence. It was flawed. It was worth less than his more technically excellent works! What did it give to the world!
Yeah, I know. My excuse is that I was twenty.
Now that I face my own "death," that is, my utter obscurity in an increasingly post-human creative landscape, I finally see it. I see the artist in the art. I see far more of Michelangelo in this rough piece than I can in any of his stunningly perfect pieces. I see pain, and fear, and weakness. I see a human heart.
Now it's my turn. Michaelangelo may have been 80 and faltering when he worked on his last Pietà, but I'm no spring chicken myself. I no longer wish to be admired like the prize hog at the fair and given a big blue ribbon that says, HEATHER DREW THE VERY BEST. YES SHE WAS THE BEST ARTIST. I no longer wish to be perfect, or famous, or richly rewarded and collected by the men of means. I don't need someone to approve of me anymore.
All I need to do before I die, is tell my story.
And with all pride in the "uniqueness" of my technical skills completely destroyed, and all threat of scrutiny removed, I can tell my story even if it's ugly and awkward...and imperfect.
I always could.
But I was twenty then, when I dreamed of perfection...so forgive me.
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theboredasexual · 1 year
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AI Generated Art
Okay, firstly, thank y'all for the sudden burst of followers. No clue when it happened but yay!
Secondly, I want to just quickly talk about AI generated art. If a lot of people see this it will probably cause a bit of controversy but I would like to talk about it anyway.
Soooo, if you haven't been living under a rock (if u have, its okay, me too) then you've probably heard of AI generated content. Now, I don't have a massive problem with it, so long as it is done correctly. And unfortunately, AI generated visual art...is just not. At least not yet.
The issue I, and many visual artists, have with it, is the fact that to train the AI's, programs need hundreds of human-made artworks - which artists have spent hours creating with their own hard-learnt skills - to generate their content. And often, these beautiful artworks are taken without the consent of the creator.
Now, AI generated music is similar, but unlike visual art AI's, they actually have the common courtesy to reach out to creators and ask their consent before using their creations. So why isn't it the same for the visual art industry?
We understand that AI's are becoming part of our future - and many of us are willing to accept that. But we are sick of having our creations stolen and replicated by AI's, and of being silenced by the community when we speak out about it.
I am a very very small artist. I barely have any of my digital paintings online, and I do not consider myself to be very skilled. But it has taken me years to get to where I am, and it will take even more years for me to learn the skills to paint amazing art. And I hate seeing and hearing about people with much more skill than me being abused by this system.
Below is a video that got me started. If you've read this whole thing (sorry it was long, I'm kinda mad) then I encourage you to watch it, if you want to hear more. Go ahead and subscribe to the creator while you're at it, he's awesome.
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That's all I have to say, really.
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91vaults · 1 year
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Because why the hell would someone who is actually trained/can draw spend all that time wrangling something out of the bot instead of just…drawing it themselves?
The prompters are always going on about the amount of time tuning and post adjustments they have to do to get decent final image. That’s a lot of time you could spend just drawing or practicing your skills. We’re all short of time as it is and you have to choose where you put it. (I make the distinction between that and using an AI for a composition/color pallet/ start for your work)
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cherriko-art · 13 days
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Today's random thought:
It's always so disheartening to see when different sectors of art/creators don't align.
Morals and advocacies are bound to clash bc none of us are perfect and we're all different, but it still hurts to witness. Seeing actors promote generative AI, or seeing artists pirate novels online, or crafters stealing artwork and designs, etc.
I feel that any sort of creative, no matter what area you create in, has faced the unjust reality of other people taking/stealing/profiting/undermining your work. Art has always been kicked around at the bottom of the bucket bc people believe they have the right to our work, that it's "just art". We've experienced this so often.
That's why I think it hurts even more when I see other creatives do the same to other creatives. Like an art-on-art crime.
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