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cokoweee · 2 days
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Ok like…if they don’t link then that means it’d a new-ish idea yeah sorta sure aight
ALSO THAT IS CASSANDRA AKA CASEY
K i run bye💃💃💃
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wineonmytshirt · 21 hours
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so they killed cassandra first
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pennumbra · 3 days
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After lots of workshopping, here's the final (or nearly final) mock up for me and @xannerz 's Cass enamel pin!! The colors may still change a bit depending on the manufacturer.
We just sent her off for quotes, so we'll have more info on the price and turnaround time soon.
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taylortruther · 2 days
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tbh the way i’ve been viewing cassandra is that she’s talking about both the kimye situation and the scooter situation cause in the first verse she says she’s patching up the crack when she got the call (she was trying to mend things, the phone call happened) and then in the third verse when she references it again she says she patched up the crack and that’s when she lost it all (she felt like she was finally in a good place again/had moved on and then she lost her catalog)
i think this is a very astute reading!
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remidyal · 19 hours
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Open Questions as we head into a massive lore drop tomorrow with the new episode, along with my best guesses as to the answers. Warning: Long post.
1) Who did Kalina have the spy's tongue curse with?
The most popular (and most likely, in my opinion) theory here is that it's Jace and/or Porter, who Ragh saw the night of Prompocolypse. The players at the table seem to think it's connected directly to Bakur and/or Lydia; however, Kalina DID say the name Lydia Barkrock during Spring Break to Riz.
There's some slight weirdness in the timeline around Aelwyn helping with the Spy's Tongue Curse in that the implication of her answer for when she was helping with it would be after she was arrested ('the end of freshman year going into that summer' when Aelwyn was arrested in early March) but it's not the first time the timeline around those events has been fucked and it probably won't be the last.
2) What's Jace's deal? Also, 2a) What's Porter's deal?
As of the end of episode 16, we can pretty safely say he was at SOME point killed and brought back via a deal with Ankarna. It's been pointed out that in Freshman Year his art did not cover his chest with the scarf; I'm not taking that as definitive evidence of anything, because that's the kind of retcon that can easy be explained away.
Jace and Porter did not seem to be on super friendly terms when Riz overheard them the first day of school freshman year, but by the end of the year, the night of Prom, they're on closer terms. Ragh, after the fight at Prom but inside of the school, sees Arianwen and Jace talking to someone he cannot at that point see, almost certainly Kalina. Later - it's not really clear HOW much later - Jace and Porter found Ragh, and Porter did some 'barbarian healing stuff' that presumably included a blood transfusion, because Ragh then CAN see Kalina and is threatened into silence by her.
It's quite clear to me from this that both Jace and Porter carried the curse of Kalina, and I'm of the belief that they were fulfilling their end of whatever deal was going on between Kalina and them by helping her agent in the form of Arianwen get the Crown.
Now which of them is in charge, and what're their respective motivations? That's much more interesting and I think independant.
I saw a theory on here that I LOVE and now fully believe that Jace was, in fact, the sorcerer in Lydia's party, and after dying to Bakur he took the deal to come back and is working for Ankarna. How truly willing he or any of the others who took that deal are at this point is another question. This is speculation, but it's really good speculation. This would obviously mean Jace was corrupted well before freshman year, but I don't actually think that's a problem.
Porter's more interesting, and I'm fully not certain which of the two are in charge, if either is, though my own speculation is that Porter is the primary driver. Jace clearly got him to help with Ragh because Porter would know Ragh and could easily infect him with Kalina; why they didn't kill him is an interesting question, though it may be as simple as Arthur Aguefort was back alive at that point and the death of one of the students who fought Kalvaxus wouldn't be a quiet matter. Still, Porter pushes rage as an almost religious matter, we do not know the nature of his own Paladin Oath, and his behavior towards Fig to push her away from Cassandra leads me to think he's a true believer sort who's in this willingly, not a revived pawn like Jace or the Ratgrinders appear to be.
3) What exactly happened to the Ratgrinders in the Mountains of Chaos?
I do not believe they all died there, for the simple reason that Lucy died in the Farhaven Woods. I think it's much more likely that either Jace targeted Kipperlilly specifically as the most fertile ground for rage and then it spread from there, or if the above speculation about Jace is wrong and he's also a more recent pawn that some thing terrible happened to SOME of them there. The details on this are really important to see, to me - there's a version of this story where Kipperlilly died willingly for the power it would bring, for example. I think this is one where we're VERY likely to get answers this episode.
4) What are the Ratgrinders using the Devil's Necter for?
I strongly believe all the stuff about modified memories is a red herring, though maybe it explains some odd behaviors here and there: I think they're using it to lie to gods. My own wild theory this was first used by LUCY to lie to her own god in prayer and get Ankarna's name from her by claiming they had already broken through Oblivati Mori, so why not share some information about the sister you loved so much? And then the guilt of having done this, and maybe even seeing some sort of backlash onto her god, is what led her to back out of whatever bits of the plan she had gone along with to that point for Kipperlilly's sake.
5) Why does Kipperlilly need to be principal?
I don't exactly believe that the Ratgrinders are looking for a long term senior year sort of situation; Kipperlilly being student body president and thus principal is the key to something within the bylaws.
The most likely thing to me here is that we don't yet have the details we'd need to answer why on this one.
The funniest callback sort of answer is that she needs to be principal in order to remove Watches and Wards from the library, which is supposed to prevent divine summonings on school grounds. It's stated in freshman year that only the Elven Oracle or Arthur Aguefort can remove the book, but this may well be Arthur Aguefort in his role as Principal rather than being tied to Arthur himself. Certainly Adaine wasn't likely to repeat her own mistake, at least. Also, potentially, this would be why they couldn't just change the bylaws for their endgoal directly instead of going through the election - the knockout enchantment on Watches and Wards is on the book, not part of the school bylaws. In any case, this could potentially be tied in to my guess on six, which is…
6) What's the overall plan here?
The overall plan, I think, is to bring Ankarna back fully to life during graduation in the gym, a place where a god (if a shitty one) was born. Elmville will be prepared for proper worship with the rage from the infections through the tree, etc, to provide enough worship to bring Ankarna in her current form back.
7) Who was the imposing figure who revived Buddy Dawn?
Very possible answers to this question are either a true form of some kind for Jace or Porter, some kind of Avatar of Ankarna (especially since they were not on the material plane, though it seems likely this figure was also involved for Yolanda or Lucy), some corrupted form for Kipperlilly, or some other servant of Ankarna. We really don't have enough to know.
8) What's going on with Bucky Applebees?
I think he's going through a crisis of faith similar to Kristen's, but just what kind of answers he might be reaching we really don't have enough to say. It wouldn't surprise me if the Ratgrinders have tried recruiting him in some way, however; it's a good way to hurt Kristen.
9) What, exactly, was the nature of Cassandra and Ankarna's relationship? Were they still together when Ankarna fell or when Cassandra became the Nightmare King? Were they actually on good terms?
I think these are possibly answers we're getting this week, and also I think there's a good chance that Ankarna and Cassandra had LONG since fallen out before Cassandra's rebirth as the Nightmare King. Did Ankarna blame her wife for Sol's followers stealing and killing hers? Did Cassandra see her wife turning more violent and less thoughtful out of desperation? Cassandra fell in one move of betrayal, we know, her followers convinced over her pleading that to know her name was heretical - and, for what it's worth, in the form she changed to the leaders of those followers were most certainly punished for their turning on their goddess. Ankarna's seems to have been far more gradual.
10) Can Ankarna actually be restored to her original form and domain, and is that a good idea to begin with, FIG?
We'll seeeeee. There's something profoundly interesting in the nature of gods in Spyre; they need the followers much more than the followers need them, for all their power. Spreading your religion makes your god healthier, but it also makes it so that you personally have a lot less control over the shape that belief takes. We've been told repeatedly that a single follower is all a god needs to stay alive, but clearly they need more than that to come to life to begin with, or to be reborn - not everybody has Kristen's spark of divinity, it seems.
11) Can Lucy be revived slash can any of the Ratgrinders be saved?
Maybe. As always in Fantasy High, what happens depends to a very large degree on what the players want to do, and what the dice agree to. I DO think we'll see Lucy be brought back, even if just in an epilogue.
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tangledbea · 3 days
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Hot take. Rapunzel should not have forgiven Cassandra or Varian for what they did to her. Cassandra only "went good" after Zhan Tiri took the stone and she lost everything. Varian only "went good" after he got thrown in the dungeon cell with Rapunzel. None of them sorted themselves out until AFTER they lost. And then Rapunzel comforts THEM? UGH!!!
You seem to be misremembering what happened with Varian. We, the audience, see him having second thoughts after the initial fight with Rapunzel and co in the throne room. And then, he only got thrown in jail because he turned on Andrew and attacked him.
Then, he and Rapunzel had a genuine heart-to-heart, during which Rapunzel explained her side, that she had more things on her plate than just what Varian wanted her to do. He accepted this and apologized and then she forgave him.
Rapunzel has always been a person of chances. She gave Eugene a chance to help her, and during the course of their time together, got to know him as a person. She gave the pub thugs a chance by asking about their dreams, and they turned out to be thuggish men with largely artistic dreams, not to mention fiercely protective of her. She gave Max a chance to get to know Eugene the way she did by asking him to put aside his duty for one day, after which Max came to understand the kind of person Eugene really was an came to his rescue.
While I have never been on board with her forgiving Cassandra, I do acknowledge that it's 100% in character for her to have done so.
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imperatorfuriosaas · 23 hours
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thinking about Cassandra and Ankarna. Like, Brennan didn’t seem like thrilled as Cassandra when she realized Ankarna was still alive and it’s like - how do we know this wedding was a happy one? what if Ankarna doesn’t want to be redeemed?
We have a high possibility for a repeat of “to reach a hand down to someone they need to be Beneath You”. Like it’s true, Ankarna could be redeemable and i’m down for both versions of this story
But what is more teen than believing in your heart in the inherent goodness of all. What is more Fig than believing that someone just needs another chance and someone in their corner. She heard that you can change a god by changing your belief and said “yes, I can do this, because I know that love changes you. I see it. I lived it. I can be that for someone who needs it”
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evermoredeluxe · 2 days
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“they say “what doesn’t kill makes you aware,” what happens if it becomes who you are?”
the original saying being “what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” and taylor could’ve used that to say that her circumstances made her stronger, but her specifically using “aware” is so notable to me because now she’s specifically not saying she became stronger, but she just became aware of how people will betray and hurt you. and the follow up lyric being that being aware is what she is now. she looks for people back-stabbing her and is very cautious. it consumes her so much that it’s who she is; always worried and sleeping with an eye open. it’s not given her the desired quality of being strong, but just makes her overthink to point of it consuming her. such a poetic way to express that her trauma and the level to which it affects her.
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The title, “Folklore”, would have been perfect for TTPD: The Anthology.
The Albatross, Cassandra, The Prophecy, The Bolter and Peter all share the themes of myths and story-telling.
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cokoweee · 3 days
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Short cause thanks to work every idea I had disappeared lol
Oh look the first part
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venificas · 3 days
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Watching reviews of TTPD and has no one ever heard of Cassandra before?! I thought this was a commonly known Greek myth?
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darkpoetryshop · 10 hours
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I could not stop producing madness
-Cassandra, Christa Wolf
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nerdasaurus1200 · 1 day
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If it’s true it’s true
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the-evil-clergyman · 9 months
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Ajax and Cassandra by Solomon Joseph Solomon (1886)
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dubiouslymelly · 28 days
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oh youre a lesbian couple? which one of you is doubt, mystery and the night and which one of you is of summer, conviction and the sun?
unrelated question: if one of you were corrupted would you try to corrupt the other? completely unrelated. btw.
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tangledbea · 3 days
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Did we ever get the lyrics for the original song that was made for Cass's solo before they reworked it to Waiting in the Wings?
Yes! The song was called Lady In Waiting:
I guess I'm a lady in waiting 'Cause waiting is all that I do I'm always the one Whose big day in the sun Just happens to never come through
The girl no one needs to pay heed to Whose name no one bothers to learn Holding my tongue Overlooked and unsung Just patiently waiting my turn
Well, I'm tired of life in the shadows Of hiding my light in a drawer I'm done masquerading-- This lady is waiting for more
Waiting for action! Waiting for glory! Waiting for just one chance to star in my own story Tired of dreaming Ready to wake I wonder, how much longer will it take?
Like so many ladies in waiting My patience has worn a bit thin I've had it to here With my back-seat career It's time for MY life to begin
And to all of the laughers and doubters Who sneer so contemptuously Well, soon they'll all know What I knew long ago: The world has been waiting for me!
Waiting for passion! Waiting for feeling! Waiting for someone who can smash that stained-glass ceiling! I know I'm ready Sure as can be I may have waited before But this lady's waiting no more! The time has come to seize me fate-- I'll show them all, just wait... And see!
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