#you seem very nice in podcast interviews
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I’m still obsessed with Ken Womack deciding a cartoon strip character was Paul on 9 May 1969.
Mainly because it seems like a misinterpretation of an image based on a misrepresentation of the situation?
Here’s what Womack wrote thanks to @muzaktomyears.
To summarise: Womack says the other three cornered Paul, insisting he appoint Klein. Paul started to lose him cool when the others accused him of creating needless roadblocks and wanting to appoint his relatives, Paul refused to sign, there’s a quote from Paul saying that was the night we broke The Beatles and that it was the liberty bell moment and… that’s it, end of chapter with some musing about Mal’s heartbreak and the pic of ‘Paul’ (i.e. Maisie) framed like this:
But… that seems a pretty lopsided view of how it went???
According to You Never Give Me Your Money, on 8 May the other three had signed with Klein without Paul’s knowledge (though George tried to tell him but he’d changed his phone number). The contract appointed ABKCO ‘exclusive business manager’ to Apple Corps Ltd ‘on behalf of The Beatles and The Beatles Group of Companies’. They knew at this point that Paul might not sign and it still needed to be ratified by the Apple board of directors (I.e. The Beatles).
On 9 May they gathered to do LIB overdubs and the other three tried to strong arm Paul into signing with Klein, bullying him and growing furious with him:
You Never Give Me Your Money p. 130
[Note: Womack included a quote from Paul about the 15% stuff but not the bullied and ganged up on bit.]
Rolling Stone
Edit to add one more:
And In The End, p. 113
So in the above we have:
‘They really bullied me and ganged up on me’
‘The others grew furious, but McCartney held his ground’
‘They said “Oh, fuck off!” and they all stormed off’
‘Lennon, Harrison and Starkey lost their cool and unleashed an unsparing verbal assault on McCartney leaving him bruised and bleeding on the canvas’
(These are selective quotes so this post doesn’t get too long - more context here which is also the source for the below paragraph. Also the quotes are all Paul’s POV - I’d like to find what the others have said about this day).
John then called Klein, who was on his way to the airport, and Klein came back, lied to Paul about needing approval from the board of ABKCO to try and pressure him into signing and, according to Glyn Johns “… all that equipment was not enough to prevent me hearing Paul McCartney defend himself from Allen Klein’s attempt at bullying him into submission. It was extremely unpleasant to witness”.
[Note: Womack doesn’t actually mention Klein being there]
Paul continued to refuse but the other three carried on anyway. John and George signed the document ratifying their decision to appoint ABKCO exclusive business manager to Apple Corps Ltd. The unanimous agreement rule which The Beatles had always had was resoundingly broken (though they’d already broken it on 21 March 1969 when they appointed Klein against Paul’s wishes the first time).
The full page from You Never Give Me Your Money is here but here’s the really pertinent section:
The signing of this resolution is surely the Liberty Bell moment and Womack doesn’t mention it, nor the fact that they’d previous made unanimous decisions.
So turning back to the cartoon - I imagine Paul was furious (YNGMYM mentions his rage on the next page in the context of drumming for Steve Miller), but from the sources above it seems that there were four other people who’d be equally good candidates for someone going apeshit and screaming at the top of their lungs.
Also, I don’t even know if Mal was there for these bits of unpleasantness (he’s not mentioned in YNGMYM).
Here’s Womack’s sources by the way:
Womack’s source for the events of the day is Anthology p. 326. I went and looked it up. It’s all from Paul and Neil’s PoV and says the same as above - the closest thing is Paul says about anger is “there was a big argument and they all left, leaving me at the studio”. (Here free on the internet archive). The fact that it is all from Paul’s PoV suggests JGR haven’t spoken about this day but I could be wrong on that.
That twitter link is Paul saying that was the day the liberty bell cracked.
And here are my sources:
Rolling Stone article Why The Beatles Broke Up: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/why-the-beatles-broke-up-113403/
You Never Give Me Your Money by Peter Doggett
Amaralto’s quote from Sound Man by Glyn Johns book (god I wish he hadn’t turned the audio off. Why couldn’t he have MLH’s lack of ethics when it comes to recording the Beatles interactions?)
Beatles Bible 9 May 1969: https://www.beatlesbible.com/1969/05/09/mixing-get-back-album-inserts-2/#:~:text=It%20took%20place%20at%20Olympic,Klein%20as%20Apple's%20financial%20manager (which also doesn’t include about the signing of the resolution that evening. Is YNGMYM wrong about the day or is it just that no one thinks it specifically matters?)
Paul McCartney Project, 21 March 1969: https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/1969/03/allen-klein-becomes-business-manager-of-apple/(When they first appointed Klein as Business Manager when Paul was out of the country on his honeymoon. Paul sent a legal rep along but they went with majority - not unanimous - rule and voted Klein as Apple Business Manager).
#this feels like stupid Paul girl nit picking but there’s enough shit where he’s the main one at fault#this day isn’t one of them#also disclaimer: maybe I’ve got all of this wrong#sorry for this Ken#you seem very nice in podcast interviews
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Julien Fébreau in @idreau_'s podcast on Max Verstappen:
"You see we talk a lot about Verstappen, people say to me 'He's so arrogant, he seems so... He's not like that outside the car!
I swear he's an extremely nice person outside of the car. Like Vettel, very well brought up, very well educated, he's someone who already looks you in the eyes and says hello... That's not the case for everyone!
Verstappen, every time I meet him in a paddock, if our eyes meet, a little sign, a little smile. We don't need to hug each other... It's ultra polite!
When you do an interview in the paddock, the time to set up the microphones and the lights, it's someone talking to you, it's not someone on their phone saying "Is it starting?" No ! He's talking to you."
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personally i would love to read a fic where y/n catches an assault charge for fighting a reporter who said something outta line about her man lmao
𝕂𝕟𝕠𝕔𝕜𝕠𝕦𝕥- 𝕄𝕒𝕥𝕥𝕙𝕖𝕨.𝕋𝕜
𝙿𝚘𝚟: 𝚈𝚘𝚞 𝚏𝚒𝚐𝚑𝚝 𝚊 𝚛𝚞𝚍𝚎 𝚛𝚎𝚙𝚘𝚛𝚝𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚞𝚛𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚊 𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚎𝚛𝚟𝚒𝚎𝚠 𝚊𝚏𝚝𝚎𝚛 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚢 𝚖𝚊𝚔𝚎 𝚗𝚎𝚐𝚊𝚝𝚒𝚟𝚎 𝚌𝚘𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚜 𝚊𝚋𝚘𝚞𝚝 𝙼𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚠.
𝙰𝙽: 𝙸 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚔 𝙼𝚛. 𝚃𝚔𝚊𝚌𝚑𝚞𝚔 𝚒𝚜 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝚏𝚘𝚛 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚜.
Prof read is a no/ this is a long one
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Matthew knew what type of woman he had on his hands from the day one. You were sweet, kindhearted and loving. You were the girl of his dreams and his family absolutely adored you. After all, you did have a temper that only a Tkachuk could love. You were a perfect match for Matthew.
On the other hand, you were a force to be reckoned with. If someone even dared to test your gangster you would give them exactly what they dished out. You were a very protective person, especially when it came to Matthew, or the people that you loved. You were not afraid to get your hands dirty if need be. And today was not the day for someone to want to get on your bad side.
Moving from Calgary to Florida was a huge transition for you and Matthew. But, the both of you knew as long as you had each other everything would be fine. Sadly, ever since you’ve gotten settled in the state it seems like the chaos had not stopped. From unpack, adjusting schedules, getting settled at work, time difference, dealing with new people, and Matthew traveling, it was overwhelming. Now, your main concern was making it through family media day.
Today was the first family day for Matthew with his new team. Since you are now Matthew‘s wife, that ment your day would be filled with nonstop interviews from different local media outlets.For the most part things went smooth, until your last interview with a reporter from a hockey podcast you were not familiar with.
You made your way to your designated interview room hoping to be joined by your husband. As you took your seat ,you were informed it was a solo interview due to Matthew needing to meet with the NHL Network. Then a older blonde women entered the room.
•“Mrs. Tkachuk! it is so nice to meet you.” She said with a smile.
• “Hello it’s nice to meet you too” You reply happily.
• “You are even more beautiful in person.” She said now shaking your hand.
•“I’m Carla. Media Manager for the Panthers and I wanted to introduce you to your interviewer today.” She continued.
Before you could even get a word in, a much younger brunette entered the room.
•“You’re the new WAG I need to interview right?” The brunette said coldly.
•“Yeah that is me, and my name is (y\n) btw.” You replied confused.
•“Not important we are here about Matthew anyway.” She replied with an eye roll
•“Matthew will not be joining us for this interview.” Carla introjected.
• “Great! Another interview with an air head.” The brunette muttered under her breath.
• “Excuse me?” You replied taken back.
• “ Well! I will leave y’all to it!” Carla said quickly before leaving the room.
• “This is going to be fun!” You said to yourself sarcastically.
You then made your way over to your designated seat. The camera crew made sure that your mic was on,and that the lighting was working for you. Once everything was good the interview started.
•“ 3.2.1… Action! ” The camera man counted down.
• “ Welcome back to the Hockey Babes Podcast! I am Brianna! Today I am joined with the new Mrs. Matthew Tkachuk!” The brown haired reporter said enthusiastically.
• “Oh so you have a name? Brianna is it?” You said with a smile.
• “Yes! That is me.” She replied with a hair flip.
• “But anyway! Let’s get into the questions shall we?” Briana said sharply.
• “ We shall.” You replied trying to play nice.
• “So (y/n) what is it like marrying into the most hated NHL family?” Brianna said with a smile.
•“ Excuse me? Hate is a strong word don’t you think?” You replied taken back.
• “ Well it’s not like you married into a truly classy family like the Nylander’s. The Tkachuk’s do have a reputation for being white trash.” She said with a laugh.
“Is this bitch for real?” You thought to yourself. What type of interviewer asks a question like that. You were trying so hard to keep your patience. Luckily, It was the last interview of the day. All you needed to do was get through this last thing, then you were back with your loving husband. You continued to answer the question as calmly as possible.
• “ I do understand that my husbands family has a reputation for playing rough. But, white trash is the last thing that they are. Also, if you were good at your job you would know what WE Tkachuk’s are pretty close to the Nylander’s . My husband was drafted the same year as Alex. Also, his former team mate Auston Matthews now plays on the same line and team as William. So, I am pretty sure if we weren’t classy we wouldn’t be as close as we are.” You said confidently.
•“ You keep telling yourself that.” She replied laughing it off
• “So how did you and Matthew meet exactly?” Brianna continued with a snarky grin.
• “It was after he was drafted. I work with nonprofit organizations with the goal to make sports accessible to everyone. I have worked with Nike, Adidas, Reebok, and Dicks Sporting Goods. I met Matthew when the Calgary Flames volunteered to work with at risk kids. I have been in love with him ever since.” You replied reminiscing on the very moment you knew Matt was the one. 
•“ How cute! Got to make up for the lack of talent he has somehow. Glad to see you have a working brain as well!” she said light heartedly.
•“ What do you mean by that?” You replied getting angrier by the second.
•“ I mean you are with the less successful brother. Brady is the youngest captain in the NHL. And tell me what exactly Matthew has accomplished?” She remarked doubling down on her rude comments.
“ You know what? I think this interview is over!” You said angrily as you stood to take off your mic.
“Aww…Did I make the Air Head mad?” Brianna said antagonizing you.
Before you could think, you lunged at her your fist connecting with her face. You grabbed her hair and pulled her out of her seat. You were full on twirling on this hoe.
• “YOU WANNA TALK SHIT LIKE A BITCH THEN IMMA DOG WALK YOU LIKE ONE!” you said dragging her across the floor.
• “ RIGHT BITCH! WRONG IDEA! DON’T EVER TRY TO BAD MOUTH MY FAMILY HOE!” You screamed as security and Matthew proceed to try a pull you two apart.
•“ Y/N IT’S OKAY! IT IS OKAY! YOU GOT HER! IT’S OKAY” you heard Matthew yell as he held you back from going at her again.
As Security dealt with Brianna, Matthew walked you to the medical room. You took a seat on the patient table. Matthew tried to calm you down as best as he could. You had a few scratches, so Matthew decided to find some things to clean you up. When you were calm enough, Matthew asked you what exactly happened.
•“ Baby what happened? Are you okay?” Matthew asked you wrapping his arms around you.
•“ NO! I am not okay! I just spent the last 45 minutes listening to my family be bad mouthed by a random podcast bitch.” You said brokenhearted.
• “ WHAT!” Matthew replied now upset at what he was hearing.
• “ YES! That bitch was talking about how the Tkachuk’s are white trash. How you are not successful cause you’re not a captain yet! And a bunch of other shit about my intelligence!” You told Matthew getting upset again.
• “ That is fucked up! I’ll take care of whatever bullshit comes next okay?You don’t have to worry about that. But,I want to make sure you are okay?” Matthew said concerned.
• “Well I just whooped her ass, so I guess I’m good” you said brushing your tears away.
• “ You did get her pretty good babe. Maybe you are a Tkachuk after all. I should take a few fights lessons from you. ” Matthew said cracking a grin.
• “ Matthew shut up!” You replied rolling your eyes.
• “ What? All I’m saying is that my father would definitely be proud of you.” Matthew replied causing you to crack a little smile.
• “ You think?” You asked looking at him with a raised eyebrow.
• “ I know for sure my little hot head.” Matthew continued leaning into kiss your forehead.
• “ Now you lay back and rest I’m going to sort this all out. Then we will be on our way home.” Matthew added giving you another forehead kiss.
• “ You don’t think I’ll have to deal with the police right?” You questioned him before he left the room.
• “ No way! The most that will happen is needing to pay a fine. Also you know I have a Fight Fine Fund. Triple F for short .” Matthew reassured you with a slight laugh.
• “It is the NHL after all.” You said laying your head down on the padded table.
Matthew managed to sort some things out for you. The most you had to pay was a fine of 8,000 bucks. This was a standard financial investment for Matthew. The man had 100k stocked for fines he might rack up during the season. Brianna on the other hand, was prohibited to conduct any future interviews with the Panthers. In the end, never mess with a woman who is in love with a man like Matthew Tkachuk. You will end up with your ass beat.
PS: I HOPE THIS DOSE YOUR REQUEST JUSTICE 😘💪
#matthew tkachuk#matthew tkachuk smut#hockey#nhl#hockey tea#nhl imagines#black nhl imagines#nhl plus size imagines#florida panthers#Florida Panthers imagines#matthew tkachuk imagine#matthew tkachuk x reader#nhl wag#nhl imagine#nhl x reader#nhl players
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New podcast on Fast and the Curious!
Lando
It sounds like it really was just the one day in Perth! Lando said he made eggs for everyone the morning after they arrived and was left to do the washing up! The "illegal stuff" he mentioned in the F1 interview was riding motorbikes without proper protective kit 😂
He mentioned how he and Oscar have chats every race weekend about what they expect and their own debriefs afterward. (I'm sure most teammates do this but Andrea said that he likes how much they work together so it must be pretty special!)
Him being hard on himself is about having high standards for himself which he feels is what's made him who he is today.
He likes staying out of the chaos of contracts and changing teams. Said again how comfort for him is important because honesty and trust is better at a team where he knows people.
They talked about how much people adore Lando and he said how much he appreciates it and still isn't used to it. He thinks he has the best fanbase. 😊
They said he seems genuinely happy and he really did!
Oscar
He'd had a flapjack that morning!
They said how Oscar was the first "thing" they'd ever recorded and he clarified that he's human - so cute 😊 And he is their most frequent guest!
Said he felt more settled and comfortable as opposed to the second half of 2023 hitting him "like a train" with how busy it was. Feels better now he knows what to expect.
He pretended to get upset when they said they wanted to see Lewis win 2024 WDC 😂😂
Fred Vesti had told them that Oscar decided to stay away from the Alpine twitter drama (35:20) by playing chess with him since they lived next door at the time!
His wisdom teeth gave him problems through the season and he should have had them out twelve months before.
Oscar does not call his car a "she"! The only reason he called a car "Silvia" because his mechanics wouldn't let him leave until he named it 😂
He said that he and Lando will always work hard to help the team to get the most out of the car ❤️
While it's nice to have compliments he knows neither compliments or criticism will make him drive better so he just needs to stay focused.
Fewer teeth = weight saving 😂
That's it! Very cute and they both sounded super happy despite the weather!
anon you are an absolute blessing bc I had no idea when I'd be able to listen to that all the way through !! Lando being the one to make eggs for Daniel and Martin AND then doing the washing up is not what I'd ever have expected aksgfsagflajfs but Oscar talking about flapjacks and chess and wisdom teeth absolutely is goddd I adore them so much ??
thank you for writing this up <3<3
#submission#landoscar#mctwinks#twinklaren#not putting in their indiv tags bc ppl get real mad lol#landoscar podcast#the fast and the curious#testing 2024#they're literally opposites attract
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This is a fun collection of quotes from the Let It Be Beatles Interview with Mark Lewisohn conducted on August 20, 2018. This is mostly for @mythserene's enjoyment, but it's also a fun lil supplement to this comment by @talking-perfectly-loud on a post by @anotherkindofmindpod, which includes some revealing, deeply salty quotes by Lewisohn from an episode of Nothing Is Real.
The below soundbites focus on Lewisohn's feelings towards the Harrison estate, particularly Olivia, though Lewisohn also lets us know that he considered suing George at one point. Italics used to indicate tone; bold font is added emphasis by me.
This is from ~1hr8min into the interview, after a discussion of Mal Evans diaries. Here's a partial transcript:
"No, no, Olivia Harrison doesn't want anything to do with me at all. Yeah, so it's very frustrating because I just want to make the history better and better and better and more and more correct, especially more and more correct in terms of balance on all four Beatles, but whatever."
This is a longer clip (6:26) from ~1hr23min in the original interview. They're discussing Lewisohn's falling out with Apple/the Beatles/George in particularly, which came about because he was falsely accused of bootlegging, or something like that. He's told a few variations of this story.
The first 3ish minutes give some flavor and backstory. Some choice quotes (they're at about 2:50, 4:35, and 5:42 in this clip):
“To the day he died, George blocked me, and Olivia blocks me in George’s name, and so it still carries on.”
“I’ve never, ever leaked, and that was why it was so galling to be accused of being a bootlegger. George Harrison accused me of being a bootlegger to my face in front of a whole film crew, the bastard. I mean, really. A horrible, horrible thing to do. I really should have done him for slander, and in fact at one point I was tempted, believe it or not. Because, you know, I’m a professional, I’m on a shoot, I’ve got a whole unit with me, and he’s accusing me of being a bootlegger in front of everybody, which was- he had no evidence for because there wasn’t any, but that didn’t matter. He was accusing me without evidence, and it was wrong, and um, you just have to put up with these things. These people, they can get away with murder. Celebrities, you know?”
Lest we think George was wilding out solely because of the bootlegging, Lewisohn helpfully clarifies that it was also Paul's Fault:
“The irony of that was that I actually had started off really well with George. I knew George from ’87, personally, and we’d had nice times, and it was- one of the things that flipped it was when I began working regularly for Paul.”
This was the part of the podcast that really took me aback, from around the 1hr43min mark. There's some chatter about Let It Be (the film), and then Lewisohn goes off once again about Olivia Harrison. He's quite impassioned, and then seems to make a conscious effort to talk himself down.
“I don’t know Olivia Harrison. I’ve never met her, which makes her- just- [angry] blocking of everything I do so ridiculous, because she doesn’t even know me. But if, as it would appear, she’s taken it upon herself to perpetuate George’s wishes, which is something that you might expect a spouse to do when their partner’s died, if the partner says, ‘Don’t ever allow this’, then she would take it as her duty not to allow it.”
This is followed by some hedging.
There are several other choice tidbits in this two hour Lewisohn marathon, but Olivia Harrison was foremost in his mind. But don't worry, guys, he's not biased!
#george harrison's last words were fuck mark lewisohn. hare krishna#CONFIRMED#olivia harrison get behind me#next substantiative post coming soon#just a bit of fun for now~#mark lewisohn#tune in#lewi-sins
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Julien Fébreau in @idreau_'s podcast on Max Verstappen:
"You see we talk a lot about Verstappen, people tell me 'He's so arrogant, he seems so... He's not like that outside the car!
I swear he's an extremely nice person outside of the car. Like Vettel, very well behaved, very well educated, he's someone who already looks you in the eyes and says hello... That's not the case for everyone!
Verstappen, every time I meet him in a paddock, if our eyes meet, a little sign, a little smile. We don't need to hug each other... It's ultra polite!
When you do an interview in the paddock, the time to set up the microphones and the lights, he is someone who talks to you, he is not someone on their phone saying "Is it starting?" No ! He's talking to you."
#max verstappen#f1#oracle red bull racing#formula 1#I'm not surprised but some people need to read that
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aah, I wish Jacob had been allowed to talk more about 'truth and falsehood' on the show. I know he was never gonna give specific spoilers, but it seems some fans are still in denial about Louis being an unreliable narrator at all. The fact that these kinds of discussions were happening behind the scenes suggests the cast knew from day 1 that something about season 1's narrative was false or misleading, they just didn't know exactly what.
Yeah.... I saw some posts around^^. (And the podcast host also pointed out that Louis was an unreliable narrator...)
I mean, it kinda feels like some kind of "gag order" has dropped away, because Jacob (and Sam) have been very blunt about that (and the Loustat relationship) in the last few interviews, but actually the fact that they all were discussing (and therefore knowing) what was true, and not is, actually, nothing new:
"Whenever I talked about something that Louis had said or that was in the script, because this show is Louis’ recollection of events, Sam would just be like, “Lie. Lie. That’s a lie. Did that happen? Is it real? Didn’t happen that way.” Very unhelpful for my preparation. [Laughs] I got really icy about it a few times. “I don’t want hear this. I have to believe something is true.” It’s nice be able to believe what you’re saying."
That's from October '22.
So the fact that he is, in fact, an unreliable narrator (or misremembers) and the reason why he changes some things stands in the room with him...
Like, if you watched the first season, and heard Daniel calling bullshit again and again, and saw him literally destroy the narrative of the last part and did not get any of the hints that are strewn throughout the show... then you simply haven't been paying attention.
And I know, there's so many layers. So many other - important! - stuff to focus on. Racial conflicts, patriarchy, power dynamics, cheating. The list goes on.
But ultimately... this will be their - Lestat's and Louis' - love story, and this has been re-iterated in these last interviews, as well as that they're following the books, and... well.
POV changes, revisits and changes of perspective (and being called out for lying, too) are part of the books.
It's just that some fans don't want to apply this to Louis, for representative reasons I believe.
But... as Jacob put it so nicely in one of the last interviews:
"Something that can get misunderstood about representation is that all representation has to be good representation. It's important actually that we don't show a queer couple as a monolith or a Black character as a monolithic thing. I love that the show is willing to explore the multitudes of that relationship."
A lot of fans don't want to see the "bad" in Louis, or Claudia for that matter (and I use "bad" here very loosely, because there are no "bad", or, for that matter, "good" vampires in the chronicles).
The hate I've gotten for pointing out weaknesses or simply flaws in the narrative, or when their behavior didn't make sense to me - or when I interpreted it differently in the light of later books... was off the charts at times. And I fear a lot of people will have a very hard time with the shifts that will come in soon.
But... they've been hinting at that since the beginning. And yes, they've obviously known, too. (And I would argue they would have needed to know which scenes would be revisited - and, honestly, Jacob's comment above does hint at that, imho.)
#Anonymous#asks#ask nalyra#amc iwtv#iwtv#amc interview with the vampire#interview with the vampire amc#iwtv amc#iwtv 2022#interview with the vampire#lestat de lioncourt#louis de pointe du lac#loustat#representation
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Audio + CC link: https://youtu.be/ulyrcg0Fmqw
ENG SUB: JokerOutSubs x RADIOAktivno collab: 'Umazane misli' Album Presentation
We are very happy to have been able to collaborate with Boštjan Najžar from RadioAKTIVNO podcast (Facebook, YouTube), who very kindly reuploaded the removed video on YouTube again and agreed to collaborate with us by adding subtitles!
Below you can find the transcription of our translation of the interview, which originally aired on 23.11.2021, on Radio Prlek/RADIOAktivno YouTube channel.
Everyone: We are Joker Out.
Bojan: And you are listening to RADIOaktivno.
Boštjan: We've heard 'Gola' by Joker Out, from the album 'Umazane Misli'. Today with me on the RADIOaktivno show on Radio Prlek all the members, Martin, Jure, Kris, Bojan and Jan.
Everyone: Hello.
Do you have any dirty thoughts?
Jan: Every day. Yes, more and more. That's what connects us, that's what's always stuck with us. I think we're born with dirty thoughts. We've just released that on a CD.
Now you have finally made them public.
Bojan: Yes, it took a while, but these dirty thoughts have changed in the last two years, since the album should, in theory, have been released originally, they have evolved a lot. And they have evolved in such a way that we are now really very happy with them. So, yeah, the physical form is finally with us.
Anyway, Joker Out, you've been playing your cards successfully for a few years now. Are there many Jokers in the game?
Kris: Yes, there are exactly five in the game, right? Each one special in their own way. That specialness and dirty thoughts, as they say, unite us, too, don't they. I don't know what else to add to that.
Do you play cards?
Jure: Do we play cards? No. Socially, we don't play cards. No.
Bojan: We’ve actually never played cards.
Jan: We were at the casino last time.
Bojan: Hey, we were. And on average, I think, we were in a deficit, just two euros in total, or four.
Jan: Something like that.
That's a good result.
Bojan: Really good.
Kris: So kids, don't go to the casino.
Bojan: Yes. You will always lose.
Five Jokers, well connected.
Martin: Seems pretty well connected to me. We kind of complement each other nicely in what we create and what we do. What else can I say? Well, if there are only two Jokers in a deck, here we have five. Kind of.
Bojan: Like the Power Rangers.
Jan: Yes. Power Rangers. Power Rangers. Power Out. Joker.
Bojan: Is there a pink Power Ranger?
Jan: Joker Rangers.
Martin: There's a pink Power Ranger.
Bojan: I am the pink Power Ranger. Bojan.
So does each one choose his own colour, or is it assigned to a particular member?
Kris: Yes, I think basically the colour is assigned based on his character and temperament. So maybe pink really suits Bojan, yes.
Kris, which one for you?
Kris: Yes, I don't know which Power Rangers are left.
Bojan: Red, yellow, green.
Jan: You can have one of your own.
Bojan: Black.
Kris: Is Jan the black one?
Bojan: Jan is the black one.
Kris: Jan is the black one, right.
Bojan: Jure is the yellow one, right?
Jure: Am I the yellow one, or what?
Kris: Is he the yellow one?
Martin: Nooo.
Bojan: Yes, I don't know, is it?
Kris: I would say, the green one?
Jure: Green.
Kris: Jure is...
Bojan: Green.
Jure: Well, come on.
Kris: Hey, what's left, red and blue still, Jurko?
Martin: Yes, yes.
Jan: Jurko is more…Martin is more the blue one.
Kris: Well, I'm the red one and Martin is the blue one.
Power Rangers are always in action, are you always in action too?
Martin: Yes, especially lately, I think, that we're pretty much in action. Well, from all points of view, musical and others, socially. What else can I say on this topic?
Jure: There's a big thing in the works right now. So, we have to split up the tasks and that's it, yes.
But there's a lot of "sweet" work now?
Jure: Yes, yes and no, right?
Bojan: If you interpret it that way, it's much easier. If you tell yourself that it's "sweet" work, then many things that originally are not directly related to music, but are just things that we have to do along the way, to be successful, it could work, after all. We have a lot of "sweet" worries, we often have worries that we would like to or be able to give to someone who tolerates them better than we do, or just not have them.
Kris, were you going to add something else?
Kris: I just wanted to say that there's a lot of sweet powder as well. To get this, the context of one of the songs will come in handy.
UMAZANE MISLI
Gola' was the opening track, the second will be the title track for the album, 'Umazane misli'.
Bojan: Yes, 'Umazane misli' is one of those extremely upbeat, good-mood songs, which was kind of our attempt at Brit pop and we feel that it was very much the beginning of a certain vibe that we would like to maintain. It's also a very particular song because it was sung by one of my classmates from college, who had never sung or stood in front of a microphone in her life, so it has that touch of naivety. So yes, a very beautiful song that I hope we'll listen to.
Umazane misli' by Joker Out's album with the same name. You are a five-member band, I read online, you started from the ruins of Apokalipsa, in 2016.
Bojan: Yes, on the ruins of Apokalipsa and then Buržuazija (Bourgeoisie). These were the two bands that kind of broke up and then formed this current whole. Except for Jurček, Jurček joined us this January from the ruins of many other bands where he was forged.
But Buržuazija is still active. So you have taken away a member from them?
Jan: Yes, they got replaced. I mean, no matter what, Buržuazija always finds a way to its position.
Kris: True. The class struggle continues.
Jan: But, yes. I mean, this is a band that's replaced every member five times, at least, so...
Bojan: They're really a living organism.
Jan: Resilient. They're resilient, yes.
Martin: That's the question, right, if you replace every part of the boat, is it still the same boat?
Bojan: No, it's not the same boat, but it is a very good thing for Buržuazija, because I would say they are in the best possible shape right now. Maybe I dissed Jan and Kris with that, because it wasn't so good when they were there, but yes... Great band, still, or rather now.
Kris: Yet I 'Still' ('Vedno') enjoy it.
Jan: Yes, that.
Then today, Jure, you are actually the youngest member, joining the band?
Jure: Oldest member but youngest in the band, yes, I think.
In experience with Joker Out, I mean.
Jure: In experience with Joker Out, yes.
Bojan: He's the only one with a sweater on, so actually, kind of, the levels balance out.
Jure: I try to get on your level.
Have you received him nicely?
Kris: Absolutely. He's fitted himself in so perfectly into our band that I actually sometimes forget that we've been together for... - Just... - ...less than a year.
Bojan: He still has to adress us formally and eat at a separate table.
Jan: He did make us a really great roast once, so that's when we finally accepted him into our band.
Bojan: True, yes.
So you also have entrance exams in the group?
Bojan: Informal ones.
Given that Jure is cooking a roast to enter the group, what did the others do then to get in?
Martin: That is only for the members of Joker Out to know, right? Something like that.
Anyway, we first got in touch in 2017, Kris texted me then that you had a song, if it could be presented on the radio. If we could do an interview, but then Kris immediately left Bojan holding the bag.
Kris: Yes, that's when I, I don't know, I think I got lists from my mum of 30 music editors and we wrote to everyone when we released our first single 'Omamljeno telo' and I was genuinely surprised and I thank you, for even answering, so thank you very much. I really did, however, leave Bojan holding the bag at the time and still, I would do it again. That's just the duty of the frontman, or how should I say it? He has privileges and duties.
Usually the frontman is the most exposed member of the band.
Bojan: Yes, that's just kind of how it goes generally, but I will say that we have, especially in the last few months and in this final process of making the album, greatly expanded the public exposure of the whole band. And I personally would like to see this be brought to the maximum level, if possible, so to say, to be as exposed as possible. Not only because I find it to be right, but because I also sometimes feel like not going to every single thing.
VEM DA GREŠ
The next song will be 'Vem, da greš'.
Kris: What can I say about this track, listen to Bojan's sufferings.
Bojan: No, we have one interesting thing about 'Vem, da greš'. Vem, da greš' had three forms. It was a very slow balladic song at the beginning, but it kind of got on our nerves during the recording process and we didn't know what to do. We ended up speeding it up a lot. Mark Pirc, our video producer, had to edit the whole video again and shorten it by one minute, because we'd also shortened the song. Jan recorded the last guitar parts two hours before we sent the song to be mixed, so two months of work was practically in the trash, in such a bombastically short time before the mix itself.
Kris: May I add, it doesn't look to me like it was all garbage, because we would never have come up with this in the last four hours if we hadn't done that two months before.
Bojan: But Žarko clicked 'move to trash', 'delete'.
But then it was left in the bin anyway?
Bojan: It was left in the bin, yes. And also on his old computer, so we'll never hear that stuff again, even if we wanted to.
You've been accumulating experience on stage for quite some time, from various competitions and things like that.
Kris: Yes, it's true, as soon as we formed as a band, we also started looking for gigs, because we knew it was the only way for people to actually hear our music and feel it. Because what you see on YouTube, maybe doesn't capture you as much as live music. And there are, basically, at least for young bands in Slovenia, quite a lot of opportunities to show off, various competitions and bands battles and so on. And we've entered everything. Even when we weren't playing well, we thought we were better than everybody and we went to play. And basically, well, apart from showing off to the audience, you also get to know a lot of the young music scene, with whom it's very good to link, and I think that this has also helped us a lot in the long term.
What has it given you?
Martin: First of all, I think that these opportunities make it possible for young bands to come out of some kind of closed space, where they feel comfortable since they practice in front of each other and create some music to perform and show what they've been creating for the audience and let's them see how the audience reacts or, especially, how they don't react to your music at the beginning and it gives you some first experiences that are very important for then performing in front of larger audiences on bigger stages.
How is it, being in such competitions or opening for a more famous band that has stage experience behind them?
Jan: The first time we played as the opening act for Big Foot Mama in Domžale, I kind of felt so privileged, I was, I think, so privileged to be able to take part in it. So without going through that and being an opening act to bigger bands, also you can't become what they are now. So, 25 years ago, yeah. So, yes, it was interesting to feel a really big stage for the first time, right. And now we're kind of almost used to it, I think.
Kris: Do you know the song 'Garbage Hip Hop?'
Today it's different when you're the one on stage.
Jure: I don't know, I don't know if it's different. I think you have to make the same effort. You have to make the same effort. Maybe, okay, now people, people maybe percieve the opening act and the main band a little differently. But still, if you play what you what you agreed on, if you have good energy, communicate with people, it doesn't matter whether you're the opening act or the main band.
Bojan: Are you going to tell me that you don't feel a thousand times sexier on stage right now, than you did then? Don't lie.
Jure: No, no, I don't know if I do. No. I mean, I'm at the back, I'm the drummer, it's the same to me.
Bojan: Drummers, poor drummers, they never see the crowd and they can't even be seen on stage. But we'll buy you a pedestal, my dude, three metres high, dude, for everybody to see.
Jure: Lights.
Bojan: Then you're gonna see.
How do you feel as a singer now, when you're the frontman in a band and you have an opening act, compared to when you were the opening act?
Bojan: Yes, it's really one of those interesting leaps that we actually can't believe has already been made, I will say, honestly, as if we were just now realising that we had come to this point that someone is our opening act. We really do have a lot, a lot of work to do. But we are very happy to do a concert and there's somebody else before us. But we know that this role was ours, literally, for the last four years and we have always welcomed it with the greatest joy and pride. And it's a must on every musician's journey, so, yes, we're looking forward to a lot more opening acts, and hopefully as many as possible, that then will be back as the main ones, in the future.
To make the competition fiercer?
Bojan: Absolutely, I think that without good and healthy competition, there is no scene at all. So the more musicians we have, that are growing and that people are listening to, the more we will have an audience that wants Slovenian music.
PROTI TOKU
Is 'Proti toku' next?
Jure: Proti toku', that's a new song, yes. We finished this one together, right? After I joined the band. So, this is one of the latest ones. I don't know what else to say, 'Proti toku'.
Kris: Okay, so 'Proti toku' is the first track, you're going to hear from our new album and it's brand new. It's actually fairly well known amongst our audience, because we've been performing it for at least three years, I believe. But it's in a completely new format because we turned it upside down three times in the studio and we hope you like it.
Considering your music, are you a rock band?
Martin: We're definitely a rock band. By the way, we discussed this just yesterday, how as young performers, well, we are still young performers, but in the early days, we didn't know exactly how to define our genre. When we were asked what our genre is, and we were maybe a bit thoughtless, or you could say thoughtful, when we replied that our genre was 'Shagadelic' rock and roll, which is still what we all agree on.
And if we translate that, what is that supposed to mean? We know that there are many different kinds of rock.
Martin: I don't know how to translate that, as somehow...
Bojan: Fuckable is a literal translation. Fuckable.
Then we know which audience you are targeting most.
Bojan: Yes, everyone who is looking for...
Kris: Middle-aged males.
(laughter)
Jan: I mean, yeah, yeah, we are rock, right? I mean, rock isn't just leather trousers and beer, it's also smart clothes and beer.
Bojan: It's the eternal question of defining who is rock and who isn't. In our band there are three electric guitars, a bass and drums and I think the sound of our guitars is distorted. I don't know what else people want from us. Now, the fact that we're young, obviously, objectively speaking, girls find us charming, obviously degrades us into not being rock or something, according to many people. But sorry, not sorry, Guns N'Roses will never be on our setlist.
Were you in a dilemma at the beginning about what to play and which direction to follow?
Jan: We definitely were. I think we have quite different musical backgrounds. At least I was a little bit more metal at the beginning, which didn't really suit the other members, because Bojan doesn't sing "raaah". His voice is more delicate. Then, yeah, we explored a little bit, experimented some more with funk, but it didn't work out, because we just aren't... that funky, well, but... So, yeah, in a bit of a roundabout way we've reached this Shagadelic style, which we still hold on to.
How many adjustments were there at the beginning then? And brainstorming, different ideas, ways of looking at where to go and how to move forward?
Kris: Ugh...
Others: We still do that a lot. - It still happens.
Kris: That's constant. It's always present. It's a shouting match and the loudest one... No, no...
Bojan: And if you shout the loudest, you win.
Kris: Yeah, yeah. No, but seriously usually we had very different ideas, but somehow we at least let everyone speak their mind, and if it was really bad, it was just... Like that, the rest... But if anybody had a half decent...
Jan: Why are you looking at me now? (laughter)
Kris: Sorry... (laughter). But if anyone had a half decent idea we were like, okay, let's go and try to develop it and somehow we've always found a joint thread, invariably.
Would you also take a vote when you create then? To vote, like in a democratic fashion?
Jure: No, we don't, we don't take votes.
Bojan: Žare has this...
Jure: Yes, we do understand and know each other enough, so we know exactly which buttons we can and can't push.
Bojan: Our opinions don't really count, because in the end, Žare has the last word.
The producer has it then.
Bojan: Right, yes. We often bring the arrangement and then after 25 seconds we're faced with dissaproval and a horrified look on the face of Žare Pak, so we have to get back and rehearse ASAP.
The expression says it all.
Bojan: It tells it all. All of it, all of it.
Jan: And the vowel, right?
Bojan: He uses a vowel, ə... - əəə...
Several members: əəə...
Martin: Which we hear quite often in the band, right?
Bojan: Now we can write a book called 'The Thousand and One ə'. And Žare, we'll basically take Žare's, we'll write a whole book out of one ə.
After all, the Slovene language also has several e's.
Bojan: There are more, but believe me, Žarko probably knows even more of them.
DOPAMIN
Next up will be 'Dopamin'.
Martin: Dopamin' is a very exciting song from the album, because it's quite different from the others but it's still Shagadelic and it's ours and you can hear that. Although we kind of went out of our comfort zone creating it and what's particularly interesting to me, it's how well the fans have embraced it. So let's listen to 'Dopamin'.
Kris: Dopamin' is actually the best song to play after this whole rock 'n' roll debate we just had. It's a song that was essentially created two weeks ago, let's say, to completion. We had already been working on it with no real progress for a year and a half, because we, I had lots of different lyrics, this is actually a song I wrote, lyrics and melody for the most part, the only one on the album, and there was constant back and forth between Bojan and me, who's going to give in and when will the final version of the song be good enough.
Bojan: Yes, I would like to say that I am extremely happy, that Kris's debut made it onto the album and I'm not apologising to him one bit for any rejections that may have come his way, because they've led to a great song.
You have ten songs on the album, is there more material, is this a selection?
Jan: Yes, we've written at least 70 thousand songs in our life, but...
Martin & Bojan: They're cherry-picked.
Jan: They're cherry-picked, right. It's the cream of the cream of the crop. Well, yes, there is already more material coming up for the next album, which will be released at some point we've written at least one song.
Bojan: And a half.
Jan: One song and a half, yes.
Martin: Which won't pass the ə-test, right. The ə-test we were discussing earlier, so we'll see what happens.
Bojan: People always want to know how many E's are in their food, but we're interested in how many ə's are in Žare's answer.
There can be a lot of ə's in the studio with this technique.
Bojan: Loads.
Although I do miss some songs from your ealier period on the album. Have you separated then those perfect beginnings from the more recent period?
Bojan: Yes, actually we said that we would like this album to sound cohesive and represent our choices for example which period defined the Joker Out people know now. We have many songs that were part of our beginning, and we're not ashamed of them at all, but we feel that maybe they stylistically and sonically don't belong on this tangible product we have in front of us now. But we're discussing how and in what way we can put them into, if possible, physical form, and present them to the whole of Slovenia.
How do you go about creating then? Do you have a dedicated person who does the music? who writes the lyrics, or do you work together?
Bojan: I mean, people from the label usually come in, bring all the material...
Jure: And the money.
Bojan: We go to the photoshoots, pose and smile, do some interviews.
That's what most listeners think, but I know that's not the case.
Martin: I have one comment. Yes, this, this label is the Cultural Arts Association Joker Out, isn't it?
Bojan: Yes
Martin: Kind of. This label takes care of the whole creative process, finance and everything else, really, so we're pretty much the ones to blame for our own fate.
Kris: Right, in fact, this is how our creation process flows, as far as music is concerned, we all work together. You can start a song by, let's say Bojan or I can start making a framework for the song, with the lyrics and the melody, or someone could bring a melody on guitar to the rehearsals, a groove on the drums, like, a chord progression and we just build from there and then usually Bojan will write some lyrics over it and the melody and then we build it up until the producer screws it up, as we've mentioned a couple of times today and then we try to glue the pieces back together somehow.
Bojan: We're doing a mosaic, through and through.
Kris: Yeah, yeah, right, right. But in the end, the suffering is always worth it, obviously.
So gluing is popular with you, too.
Jure: Gluing is popular? Yes, it is. I mean.
You take a little bit from this song and cut up the other one.
Jure: Exactly. We can't do without it, yes. But it's more Žare's job, it's what he does.. We put together some stuff when we rehearse, we think it's nice, we record it, we're like, okay, smashing, let's go to the concert and let's promote it. And then we get to the studio our plans crumble..
Martin: As a label we have everything ready, but then we're just not on the same page as our producer.
Bojan, then you're the one who's responsible for the lyrics?
Bojan: Yeah, most of the lyrics on the album are mine, yeah.
Jan: Or the main culprits for the lyrics are the girls, who captivated Bojan in our favour.
Are there many of them?
Bojan: Well, you know how, I'm fascinated by, not only by the girls, girls as well, of course, but I'm fascinated by everyday things, a glimpse of... Every single glimpse of the world can fascinate you or disappoint you. When I write it's more often out of disappointment than out of fascination. But yes, I think there is a lot of inspiration around us.
BARVE OCEANA
Next up will be 'Barve oceana'.
Jan: The next song is 'Barve oceana', yeah. It's a song which has the colours of the ocean. Well it's also a song, that's undergone quite a lot of changes. At the end we added one genius synthesizer sound.
Bojan: We used this weird organ belonging to Žare from the '70s.
Jan: Žare's organ from the 70's, pardon me.
Martin: From Sweden.
Jan: Yeah, does anyone else have anything to say?
Bojan: Was that all you had to say, because...
Jan: I don't know, dude. What would you add?
Bojan: Yeah, 'Barve oceana' is one of those songs, that conveys, I'd say, not discontent, but more of a concern about the direction our society is heading in. Our consumption is increasing and very few people ask themselves what they can give back. It's about a certain desire to distance yourself from the material towards, let's say, the more elemental realm.
You've won several music awards recently, in the last two years, I believe?
Bojan: Yes, in 2019 we were awarded the Golden Flute for Newcomer of the Year. In 2020, we received the Golden Flute for Artists of the Year. This year, our song 'Umazane misli' also won the Radio Maribor and SI Frišno Award the favourite song by audience vote in the previous year. I don't know, did we win any other awards? Except...
Martin: Yes, there's one coming up. So, the publishing house Cultural Arts Association Joker Out, will be honouring Joker Out with the most Shagadelic record of the year award, so we're expecting it and looking forward to it. (laughter)
And you'll probably get a plaque as well, a gold or diamond record for record sales.
Martin: That's right, because that's what the label would give to the band. So we haven't decided on the colour yet, we're considering platinum, diamond. But we're going to discuss it at the label and then present it to the band, something like that.
What do such high sales mean?
Martin: Yes, it means that basically the CD as a product is not just for listening to music, it's also an experience for the listener. We've put a lot of effort into the design of the CD and I think it's a good looking tangible product. But at the same time, the listeners support us by buying it, so we're very grateful.
Is it just storefront sales or does it include digital sales as well?
Bojan: Digital sales as well. Actually there are some standards applicable, in terms of how many streams count as an album sold. We, of course, do not follow them in any way, because we're self-published and we can totally get away with it. So when Martin said, we're going to give ourselves one award, I believe we'll be handing out many. It is because when people come to our place, it will look like we've already got decades of awards behind us.
Earlier, you also mentioned that you participated in the Frišno Fresh festival and played with the Big Band. How did that feel, when your song actually got a whole new arrangement?
Bojan: It was phenomenal, because we, I'll say, we're all fans of the musicians, who were in the line-up. Maybe Jan's words after the concert or during the concert would best describe what it meant to us.
Jan: Yes, I listened to the band perform this song and I've been a long-time fan of Primož Grašič and Blaž Jurjevčič. And when I watched Grašič, let's say, as he played my piece, I got... It was just a special, special feeling. It was just... Yes, exactly.
Bojan: Emotional.
Jan: Emotional.
Bojan: Please don't cry Jan, it's okay. We're wiping away tears, it's okay.
But overall, all the compositions sounded very good.
Jan: Yeah, really, I mean, those are really world class musicians, kudos to the arrangers and the mothers who gave birth to them. So, yeah, basically, I just didn't see it coming. But it was refreshing to hear these songs, we hear on the radio on a regular basis in a slightly more jazz-like style.
Did you have a part in making the arrangements?
Bojan: No.
Kris: Yes, in fact, technically speaking we did, because we noticed that they took the original arrangement and incorporated certain harmonies into the new one. Which is actually quite an honour for us. That such accomplished jazz musicians...
Bojan: They weren't above it.
Kris: ...incorporated our amateur harmonies into their grandiose compositions.
METULJI
Metulji' is next.
Bojan: Metulji' is a song that was written, let's say, at the same time as 'Omamljeno telo'. In 2017, that is. Our biggest issue with this song was, that it had a very Yugo-nostalgic rock feel to it, which was not the sound we wanted. We just didn't know how to manifest what we heard in our heads. and that's why we decided at the time not to record the song. And that's why we only recorded 'Omamljeno telo'. But now this song has got, as far as I'm concerned, exactly the sound I always imagined, and I didn't know how to recognise it or explain it. Daniel Bogataj joined us for the arrangement, and another violinist (f) who... Daniel did the arrangement for strings and also recorded most of the string sections. So the song is very special, I'll say, as far as our album is concerned, it has a slightly more classical feel to it and it's also my personal favourite.
The promotion is already behind you, as you can read online, the response has been great.
Kris: Yeah, in fact it's hard to believe, that it's really all over. I, I believe, I speak for all of us here, when I say that I haven't really gotten down to earth yet from the whole thing. It has been quite an incredible experience. Both nights, the energy was high, Cvetličarna was packed. Who would have thought? Certainly not us five years ago.
Jure: We had no idea even back in September. In the middle of September we were, we were like Cvetka, we know it's happening, we can start renovating our place now. So we started to renovate the place, all of it, and then it was the end of September, okay, we were clearly lagging. So we had to find a new rehearsal place, so we were able to rehearse at all.
Bojan: Because of how many metres of timber we do now have in our place waiting for us?
Jure:Yes, far too many cubic metres of timber. We installed drywalls, the whole thing. We were filthy and then we had to sit down and pick up the instruments. And we had to rehearse and work for the whole month. It was really exhausting.
Now then, while you're renovating the place, or your rehearsal space, do you have dirty thoughts as well?
Jure: We had dirty hands.
Bojan: Hands, yeah.
Martin: And everything else.
Bojan: Sweet powder and white dreams. The was a lot of dust, because we had to sand the drywall, it was all over the place. And we ended up painting it white so it became a kind of... a shiny white space, our white dream. So, yes, we will also have a new rehearsal space soon and we'll personally and we'll personally invite you to the opening, so we can talk a bit, record something, you can see all these mighty accolades.
That's what I'm interested in, yes, to take a photo and release it to the public, into the world.
Bojan: Absolutely. I think the world needs to see it. It's imperative.
Do you already have a designer(f) for the awards?
Martin: Actually, we don't have one yet. But I promise we really will do our best with these awards, so maybe another band will join our label eager for the awards. We can also make some additional plans with them.
Jure: But that would mean some serious money, you know.
Others: Money talks.
Martin: Money talks, let's just put it that way.
Kris: When we sign the contract, we can go for a beer together.
Bojan: The only negative thing, I have to add, about applauding yourself in self-publishing, is that you pay for the awards yourself. So, we borrowed a lot of money as a band for these awards, but it's all worth it for the glitz and glamour.
Will the other band coming to your label, be called Joker In then?
Martin: Yeah, we'll see about that.
Jure: A wedding band, you know?
Martin: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bojan: That's what they are, for weddings. A medley of Dalmatian songs, yeah. A six-hour repertoire, no biggie, and you can hire us from next April onwards, thank you.
Martin: Kidding aside, we've already received these kind of requests. For Dalmatian songs, weddings and stuff.
Bojan: Oh, yeah. I once made a joke on Val 202, when the host asked us about our repertoire, how many songs we performed, and I jokingly mentioned, that we also play a medley of Dalmatian songs, and then we received a couple of requests in the mail for birthdays and weddings.
Martin: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jure: Oh, my.
When you're conditioning, you need to get as fit, as, let's say, the musicians out there on the rafts in Belgrade who play for eight hours straight without taking a break.
Bojan: But for the moment, I'll just say, that as far as the rafts go, we only ever go there to party. Otherwise, yeah, we've played once or twice with other bands at the same event and when the guys told us, how long their setlists were, we realised, that with one gig, they actually perform as much as we do in month, so...
Martin: But the guys also benefit financially, don't they.
A SEM TI POVEDAL
The next one will be 'A sem ti povedal'.
Kris: A sem ti povedal' is another exciting track from our album.
Bojan: They're all exciting...
Kris: Come on, they're all exciting songs, especially the exciting ones. It's special because it perhaps has the hardest sound...
Martin: It's dark, dark.
Kris: The hardest, darkest amongst all the songs on the album and for an extra touch of eroticism Erazem Grafenauer has recorded a classical guitar intro.
I've read somewhere that this is the most anticipated album of the year.
Bojan: Yeah, for us it is.
Jan: Yeah.
Bojan: We've been busy making it.
And last but not least, for the fans.
Bojan: There's absolutely a lot of people who couldn't wait for this album to be released.
Jan: Amongst others, the five of us.
Bojan: Amongst others, the five of us, most of all, definitely our parents. But, unfortunately, there were, unfortunately, the circumstances didn't allow us to get the album out sooner than we did. And we're glad we've released it now and that we have been able to introduce it to the world with these two concerts. So we have no idea if it's the most anticipated one. For us it was absolutely the most anticipated. But we hope that if this one wasn't, the next one will be.
You've placed yourself on the cover in colours.
Jan: Yes, in the colours of the ocean and the Power Rangers. Yes, we went to shoot that cover or the cover photo to a mansion.
Bojan: To Rogaška Slatina..
Jan: In Rogaška Slatina, yes. Jan Pirnat took the photo. So, yeah, basically this light beam represents our path as it bounces off various walls and eventually finds its way to the top.
Bojan: Plus, there is another explanation, that this beam basically represents the dirty thoughts that confront us, penetrate through us, and are then projected out into the world.
To the audience.
Bojan: That's right.
Otherwise, you also invest a lot in video production. In fact, you seem to support every single with a video.
Kris: Yeah, it seems to me the only right thing to do is to support every single with a video. Even if you don't, if we didn't want to, it's the modern standard. And many people might disagree, that we invest a lot in video production.
Martin: But we do.
Kris: We are making a huge effort. And the main thing is when we do videos, we also like to be involved in the actual writing of the script. and deciding what it's going to be about.
Jan: Every time we draw straws to see who's next, who's going to sacrifice a kidney for the production.
Bojan: Exactly. That's exactly it. We are missing a few kidneys in the band because of these videos.
Can your music be accessed via Facebook or in another way, through your website?
Martin: Our music is actually accessible, we've tried to make it accessible, it's virtually everywhere on the internet and through Facebook, Instagram, now even on TikTok. Maybe the label will consider, if it's worth releasing a TikTok single, because that's supposedly popular right now. Anyway, it's something to think about, but it's exciting. And we have a website, we're putting a lot of effort into it ourselves, to make it as organised as possible and appealing to everyone. Since the other day, you can also buy our CDs, T-shirts and sweatshirts and everything else to support the band, so we don't have to sacrifice as many kidneys in the future.
Kris: If not, there are also Russian torrent sites. Everything is available there as well.
Bojan: Besides, we sing in the Cyrillic alphabet,right?
But with advice like that, there will actually be one golden or platinum record less.
Kris: Yeah, what can I say, we have ourselves to blame.
Martin: Well, we also have one more record for torrent listeners, So basically, we are on trend, it seems to me, in this respect.
Kris: The ones from the Russian websites, are in this red and gold, very communist style, this...
BELE SANJE
Next up is 'Bele sanje'.
Kris: Yeah, that song, when we perform live, Bojan always mentions that it's about nightlife horrors. So, listen up.
To conclude, will you be applying for EMA?
Bojan: Hey, is that a girl, or what?
Bojan knows the girl quite well.
Bojan: Honestly, there hasn't been serious consideration of applying for EMA. Maybe if we ever get carried away. But it seems to us that now that Måneskin has won it would be a bit, how do you say, tacky, imitative, for us to give it a try now. Like, now it's an obvious recipe for victory. So we are waiting when the next extreme will emerge, that's totally the opposite of our band, and win Eurovision, and next year we'll apply.
Jure: Well, we would need some support. No, not for going to EMA...
Bojan: 100 million euros.
Jure: You've got a new piece of music and... You put on a show... and that's where it ends.
Bojan: That's it. Let's say 100 million euros of support would be lovely. If we can manage.
Martin: We'll ask the label to pay for it.
Jure: Or if you buy the merch, well, maybe. Or if someone... [inaudible]
Anyway, as I understand you are already creating new material?
Jure: We are creating new material. If not with guitars, then at least in our minds. So... It's forever bubbling in the depths of our ever-dirty minds.
Anyway, I guess, now you're aiming for as many stages as possible, and the listeners are welcome to check the schedule on all the social media sites...
Martin: And on the website
... because it can vary from day to day, right?
Kris: Yeah, at the moment, we have a lot of interest for our gigs up to the end of the year and we hope we'll be able to have I'm knocking on wood, 10 to 15 concerts more and it will basically serve as...
Bojan: A mini-tour.
Kris: A mini-tour for the 'Umazane misli' album launch. We begin... a couple of days ago we performed at Rakičan castle, it was awesome.
Otherwise, again, as Martin says, we should mention the website, because you're one of the few bands that still maintains it.
Martin: Right, but it's interesting that we set up this website as some kind of vital inconvenience, and it turns out that people really like to visit the website where you can always find information, where in your vicinity we are going to perform in the near future, and all other relevant news.
OMAMLJENO TELO
We will end with the song 'Omamljeno'.
Jan: Its full title is 'Omamljeno telo'. It's basically our earliest track on this album, which you can tell from Bojan's slightly more boyish voice.
Bojan: And Tomi Meglič impersonation.
Jan: Yeah, right.
Jan: ♪ For you ♪
Bojan: ♪ to conjure up... ♪
Jan: But yeah, I think this song is excting because, it is the same now, when it is released, as when it was created, on one of the first ever rehearsals.
Bojan: It's the only song actually, we brought into the studio and that's exactly how we recorded it.
Jan: We knew exactly what it should be and that's how it remained.
This is our final song. Jan, Bojan, Kris, Jure and Martin, thank you, for being guests on the RADIOaktivno show at Radio Prlek. Have a successful and most productive future.
Jan: Thank you very much for inviting us.
Others: Thank you.
Bojan: Thank you very much for the invitation, we wish you the same.
Kris: We will come again sometime.
Martin: We hope to be back with you soon.
I hope so.
Martin: We do too, thank you.
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Transcript + translation by: drumbeat and @varianestoroff, ENG review by IG Gboleyn123, CC by drumbeat, Tumblr transcript by @kurooscoffee.
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Y'all know the five love languages right? Physical touch, gift giving, words of affirmation, acts of service and quality time.
What do you guys think the Motley guys love languages are? I've been thinking about this because writing fanfiction for the guys, I need to know how they show their love.
Tommy's is gift giving for sure, I just consistently hear stories about him giving people things to show his affection, like on the YMH podcast Brittany talks about how Tommy literally gave away one of his motor bikes to some dude he met like maybe an hour prior and in that same podcast they mention him giving away his super expensive diamond encrusted Rolex watch to a friend of his because he liked it and Tommy was like " oh, I don't really wear it so take it, it's yours :)". He has also been known to give people who interview him stuff like bonsai trees, I can't remember the name of the podcast he did this live in though.
I think Nikki's is words of affirmation. I think this is pretty much confirmed as he will take any chance to praise his loved ones to their faces or in the faces of the media. He's just constantly saying nice things about the people he loves, just look at any interview that he's ever talked in and you'll see what I mean. It makes alot of sense to me too as Nikki himself is a writer so his love language including words seems accurate to me, he's a professional yapper afterall.
I think Vince's is physical touch, he's just very comfortable and in his element when he's close to the people he loves, like in the Howard stern interview, Vince causally has his arm around Nikki, he loves to post pictures of him and his wife being close and while Mötley are all sensation seekers, Vince is definitely the one who needs the most physical stimulation. He loves his body to be stimulated, and he wants to share that feeling with his loved one's.
Okay I got back and fourth on Mick's love language but after much debate I've decided that acts of service or gift giving has to be his, he went out on a whole stadium tour for his bandmates in harrowing pain and against his belief that the final tour should have been their last because he loves them and doesn't wanna disappoint them I also think that he is just super willing to help do anything he physically can. (without hurting himself) It might also be gift giving however as I just recently watched a Tommy lee spin interview where he gives us a tour of his room, and in his room are two cups shaped like boobs that Mick gave him as a present, Tommy doesn't specify if it was for a birthday so I think this gift must have been spontaneous. He also gave the actor who played him in the dirt a shirt that's identical to a one that he had when he was first staring in the band. And Mick literally only ever talked to him over the phone and then once at the premiere.
Anyway, that's my ten cents for the day, let me know what you guys think the guys love languages are (seriously, I need help writing these guys romantically and platonically affectionate correctly)
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I recently listened to Hot Brown Morning Potion Podcast's Deluxe Elf Interview again, and with more seasons and insight, something new popped for me.
It really doesn't sound like Ethari is from the Silvergrove. The village is described as being very shadowy and goth, perfect for Runaan and full of assassins. It also seems to be the only Moonshadow village that's quite this way.
With Ethari dressing so differently, sounding different (more on that in a tic), and having a very different personality, I don't think he grew up in the Silvergrove. He's not really a gothy kind of guy. It seems far more likely, as in some of our old headcanons, that he moved there when he married Runaan, or thereabouts. As an adult, anyway, with his accent in place.
About accents: this is a new thought I have not heard anyone say but it just hit me while writing this post: if Rayla and Ethari both came to the Silvergrove from outside it, then maybe the Silvergrove Accent is British.
Runaan's assassin team have a mix of accents, and it makes sense that not all assassins come from the same village but they would go there to train with the best of them. But my favorite detail is that Andromeda has a British accent. She's a local! Which means I can dovetail this hc with my "Andromeda and Runaan are half siblings and Lujanne is their mom" headcanon.
Further thoughts: if Ethari moved to the Silvergrove for Runaan, I'd love to see them both leave. Literally and metaphorically. Let's get Runaan living in a nice soft place that fits Ethari next time they need a village to live in. I think it would be good for both of them.
Ethari cries easily. He wept alone from stress over Lain and Tiadrin and Runaan's mission, and he cried silently, covering his own mouth as if even the mere sound of sorrow is not allowed in the Silvergrove, when Runaan's lotus sank.
The Silvergrove is where Ethari moved, for love. But every choice has a cost, and it's whatever you're giving up at the same time - whatever you cannot simultaneously choose. Ethari seems to have given up some things that were important to his emotional health. I'd love to see them settling somewhere that allows for more expression of individuality, for both their sakes, or at least that Ethari has spent the past two years in some kind of place where he could have that for himself.
An emotionally open and stable Ethari could fix me. I mean Runaan. 😇
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Your segment of the podcast was wonderful! Honestly I got emotional. I’m so glad they talked to you.
SNARKY!!?! I'm so glad you listened and got emotional. Did you catch my shout out to you? ;)
If you don't mind, I'm going to just give some little tidbits about doing the zoom call with Kevin and Jenna
There was no intro with me. The only person I talked to before the call was the producer and that was through email. I had no idea what to expect, and I was really nervous going in. I made a few small notes of things I'd like have said, and I think most everything got covered.
I didn't think it was real until Kevin and Jenna popped on screen.
I was a little shocked when Kevin was so enthusiastic about me A) being an OG glee fan and B) about my real job.
I was taken aback, a little, by how very good looking Kevin was.
(I tried to look nice - but I looked ultimately like me and not like someone who has a lot of money, lol)
The conversation felt mostly like it was me and Kevin, who seemed to be driving it. I had to remind myself to look at Jenna as I talked, too.
(I'll talk more about Jenna later in another post)
I tried to be polite and professional. As the convo went on, it felt really easy to do the conversation. It felt both longer and shorter than I expected.
Funny thing about when I started writing fanfic -- I lied a little, but I didn't want to go into the biggest reason that I was held back so long from writing fanfic is due to my severe social anxiety and the scariness of the glee fandom. But I felt like that was too complex to get into.
Also did you notice Kevin's insulation that I started writing after the show started getting bad after season 3? After the convo was over -- I was really bummed I didn't defend the later seasons in that moment.
I felt really bad when I said fanfic isn't for you, and I hope my reasoning was clear. They seemed to be understanding, though?
Kevin just beamed when I brought up that I wrote Office fanfic. Btw, I COMPLETELY forgot that he was on an episode of Office while doing the interview.
There was one point that I thought, maybe, Jenna had snapped with me -- and it was when she mentioned that they were fans of things, too. Mom (who told me she noticed Jenna's oddness and apathy) said she didn't notice that moment, so it may have been just me.
(Mom did say that I should not have said Kurt was my favorite character - but I reminded her that she already knew since the producer had already asked me that as a vetting question)
I was a little surprised when they didn't ask me about my favorites like they did with a lot of the other fan guests they have. I did mention Kurt in the episode. But I was a little bummed I didn't get to do the usual. (Apparently, they didn't with the first woman either?)
The ending was super, super awkward, and I believe, the only point that was edited. At the very end - Kevin asked for my goodreads account. I was so stunned that all I could say was that it was my full name. I kind of wonder (now) if he was trying to get me to plug some kind of social media? Anyway, the producer jumped in and said she'd get him the info.
It kind of then ended abruptly, as they were saying goodbye. They shut down and the Kevin popped on again to say goodbye again. I could also hear Jenna going straight into asking about what they were doing next.
Fwiw - Kevin never did slide into my Goodreads DMs, which is fine. I didn't really expect him too.
The producer then sent me a message a half hour later saying that Kevin and Jenna 'genuinely' liked talking to me and that I was an awesome guest. (and that she'd be in touch).
I really liked how the conversation went (mostly) but afterwards, I was kind of bummed that that was it. I have so much more I wanted to say --- and there was a part of me that kind of wanted to speak up about a lot of things that we always talk about here. But I'm glad I didn't get off topic, and that I did have a professional, honest, and hopefully education conversation about fanfic.
Fwiw - the producer sent me one last message letting me know that the podcast had aired. I did send a thank you email back, but have not yet heard a response -- so I'm guessing that is that.
I am grateful for the experience. Everyone has been so lovely about it, and people even in my real life have had a lot of good things to say. I suppose it's my little fifteen minutes of fame.
I hope people listening got something out of it, too. I haven't listened to it myself - but I just feel awkward about it, and don't really want to.
It does make me want to podcast again, though, and really dig into all the things that Kevin and Jenna don't get into. Maybe someday I can talk Snarky into another podcast when we both have time.
Thanks dear for supporting me and helping me. <3
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It's so interesting to me, as I grow older to see how some of the reactions these kids have are very mild considering that they go through the most traumatising experiences.
I was listening to the anubis backwards podcast interview with Brad Kavanagh (which if you are an anubis fan I highly recommend you go check out because it is super interesting), and he did mention something about how the reactions had to fall in line with the fact that it is still a kid's show. So the reactions could never be too strong.
Taking this, it makes me think about how mentally distressed these students are but they could never really express that because of the PG nature of the show. Having recently rewatched the show I realised how traumatising the things that happen to these kids are and how irl these things would affect a person mentally, but sometimes it makes you angry that these things are sort of just brushed under the carpet.
I want to start off by talking about my girl Patricia. She was gaslit by everyone around her, kidnapped, betrayed by the people whom she trusted would take care of her, has no memory of what we can assume is weeks of her life, and based on the whole Piper situation we can possibly assume she feels neglected or overshadowed. I think this is what leads her to not be vulnerable in front of anyone. Yet, we don't see her express her PTSD at any point after the whole nightmare situation with Rufus. I would have really liked to have seen her PTSD or trauma addressed in some form. For example, how her and Eddie becoming a couple helped her with her nightmares because she finally felt safe with someone and she finally feels like someone believes her and loves her unconditionally.
Then there's Joy. There is so much to talk about when it comes to Joy and I will forever be mad about how the writers address istg maybe 4 times since she came back. She was kidnapped by her own father, betrayed by her teachers, almost sacrificed to some Egyptian cult, had no contact with the outside world, had her education, friends and freedom taken from her at the young age of 16 (I assume), and after all of this still being forced to go back to school and be taught and associate with the people who caused all of this. I really hate how when she came back no one even asked how she feels to be back or just generally checking on her mental health. I’m surprised she went back to that school at all tbh. It was all business as usual and even she didn’t exhibit any ptsd symptoms. I think something as simple as just showing her being terrified of being left in the same room as these teachers would make for an interesting plot point, or talking to Patricia about how she feels scared going back to school. The only time when Joy does exhibit any form of PTSD is when they are forced to wear the robes in S3 and the poor girl literally looks terrified. There’s so much to unpack with Joy, so the last thing I will say is that in S2 I feel like one of her arcs could be learning to deal with the trauma and overcome it. Also it makes me so mad that none of the adults apologised to her.
Moving on to Eddie Miller. This boy has probably dealt with abandonment issues his whole life from his dad leaving. His whole 'rebel' persona probably came about from him not having a male figure in his life and was almost trying to fill that void or not being able to cope with his dad leaving. This is probably why Eddie finds it hard to open up to people, with the first person he truly trusts (besides his mum probably) is Patricia as he says multiple times that he trusts her and he tells her directly that he likes her, which he says himself was not easy for him. He does start to build a relationship with his dad but once again it is something that gets resolved in like 5 minutes and from there they seem to have the building blocks to start building a relationship. This is nice, don't get me wrong, but given that Eddie's dad has been out of his life for years and all it took was a 5-minute convo to get their relationship rolling seems unrealistic. In the conversation, Eddie does say "you didn't want me then, and you don't want me know", which I think is a very deep line for a nick show but still I think irl a boy in Eddie's position would have had a lot more of his true feelings and emotions flow out.
Jerome is a similar case to Eddie. A boy who struggles to reconnect with his father after years. I will say I always thought this arc was really deep for a nick show. A boy finds out his father is in prison and tries to rebuild a connection with him. I do have to say that arc of Jerome rebuilding his relationship with his father has a better pace in comparison to Eddie and his dad, but still, I do imagine a boy discovering his estranged father is in prison would cause a bigger reaction, but once again going back to the idea that it is a kid's show they had to keep his reaction relatively 'neutral'. Also considering that Eugene Simon is a great actor I think he would be able to represent those emotions really well.
Of course, there is still so much to say about all of the characters in the show, but I do find this an interesting observation also in line with what Brad said on the podcast.
#house of anubis#hoa#hoa rewatch#patricia williamson#eddie miller#joy mercer#jerome clarke#brad kavanagh#anubis backwards#nickelodeon#teen nick
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How are you holding up? I ask because I'm only, like, addressing antisemitism that leaks to my dash with every term related to Palestine I can think of blacklisted. And i'm like. Barely crlinging to fragile sanity. I hope you are better equipped to handle the stresses of this ongoing disinformation campaign. You're doing good and important work, which you must know, but I want to re-emphasize it.
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
i swear to god I thought there was a way to reply privately to asks, but apparently either there isn't or I don't have the patience to find it again.
I think that you're describing how most Jews with any connection to social media feel.
The good thing, in a way, is that researching and fact-checking is my major coping mechanism. Researching and rebutting and arguing with people until I understand everything well enough to be pithy about it. Creating ways for other people to defend themselves and to push back. Doing the research to know when I'm right helps me a lot.
I'm probably as well-equipped for this as I can imagine being (that's not really true, I should be talking to people more about it and using 12-step tools to deal with it and gosh some therapy would be nice), and like... there have still literally been times when I've been triggered for an entire week by this shit.
Most notably: the time when I saw a clip on my TikTok fyp from some podcast where some journalist fully got all dressed up and prepared to go on camera, to say that she could imagine there were a few individual rapes on Oct 7 -- although she wasn't aware of any -- but that certainly there was no evidence of systematic rape, and that saying there had been systematic rape was dehumanizing propaganda.
Like. If you can't even take one minute to google whether there had been individual rapes before you go on camera. And you haven't heard of them two months after the fact. Then you don't know enough to talk about this, period. That makes you the very opposite of an expert on the subject. And yet, that is who gets platformed. Ignorant randos who have no personal connection to any of this.
I literally knew there had been gang rapes by Hamas within the first week of the massacre. Because I cared enough to do a search for eyewitness testimony of the massacre, and I found an interview on PBS immediately.
Or, more accurately: it was because it slowly sank in that the attack had been MASSIVE. 22 kibbutzim leveled in one day, hands-on, without an airplane or mortar shell involved. All those people killed the way you would kill a horde of zombies: burned alive, or shot and then mutilated, or cut up and then shot. Like they needed to double-tap, to make sure no one was coming back around.
Two years of planning. Almost half a billion dollars in funding from Iran. Detailed guides even to the dentist's offices and kindergartens and grocery stores they were invading.
And it was very plain to, I think, nearly every Jew on earth that this was an attack aimed at Jews. Even before any recordings of attackers saying "I'm inside with the Jews" or "I killed 10 Jews with my own hands" even came out. Even though everyone else was denying it from the moment it happened.
And I felt compelled to learn more about what happened.
To KNOW.
To bear witness.
Even before it became apparent started to seem like the rest of the world would rather die themselves than bear witness to us. Even before it became apparent that Hamas had been telling people Israel would commit genocide in response before its fighters even left that country.
A reasonable person, imho, would ask why the fuck Hamas would commit such atrocities if if thought Israel would respond by killing every Palestinian in Gaza.
The Palestinians in Gaza are certainly fucking demanding to know why the hell Hamas thinks it gets to start a war on them, why its leaders get to hide out and evacuate their families while demanding civilians bleed and die for it, and why it doesn't goddamn turn itself in and give back the hostages.
But anyway.
But that's the thing. I looked it up because I was compelled to. I identified with the people attacked. I needed to know what had happened to us.
That's something outsiders would only do if they were allies.
We know, now, that we don't have allies on the left.
I've seen post after post after post, hundreds and hundreds of comments, on Jewish Reddit, asking if other progressives are okay. Asking, "how are you dealing with rejection by the left??" Asking if others are also shocked and confused and betrayed. Talking about how many friends they've lost who went masks-off antisemitic. So many people who've had to end long-term relationships when their partners went masks-off.
There's usually at least one politically conservative Jew in the comments laughing wryly and going, "wow, you really thought you were safe?"
Sometimes they ask why we're on the left if everyone there wants to kill us. Then we defiantly point out that it's not any different on the right. Or that we're not going to abandon our political beliefs for anyone.
Anyway.
I didn't even watch the podcast clip past that moment.
I ragequit. I went to the file of eyewitness testimonies I'd already put together, after weeks and weeks of denial. (And by "file," I mean "draft in gmail, because it saves automatically, and it's easy to find, and i don't know why it's better than google docs or dropbox paper, but it just is.")
I took the clearest, most authoritative ones and put them into their own document -- which i did make in dropbox lol.
I duetted the video, or whatever the fuck the one is in tiktok where you just take 5 seconds from one video and the rest is your own. It's not duetting. Idk.
It was the middle of Hanukkah. I recorded a video where I read each of however many testimonies I had, and lit a candle before each one. It was almost 10 minutes long, even though I made them as short as I could.
I didn't post it.
I was triggered all to hell for a whole week. I was staying up till 3 or 4 in the morning, researching horrifying rape testimonies, arguing with people on the internet, then sleeping too little and too late, then doing it again.
Watching myself lose a whole week to this. Knowing I couldn't do anything about it. Half-angrily, half-numbly thinking about how I couldn't afford to lose this much job search time, this much unfucking-my-life time. How I couldn't afford to have people I didn't even know fuck up my life even more.
And the bitch of it all is that the tone of the discourse makes me strongly suspect that if we said, "hey everyone needs to walk it back, you guys are deeply fucking up the mental health of pretty nearly the entire Jewish community," people would just respond by angrily telling us anti-Zionism is not antisemitism, mockingly saying that's what Zionists deserve.
Thanks for asking <3
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My unpopular opinion is I kind of like Pierce as a character...like obviously he sucks as a *person* but I kind of liked having an antagonist in the group. Idk, I started Community right after watching It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia so maybe I'm just desensitized to awful characters but I think a tiny bit of the Pierce hate is an overreaction.
Of course. A lot of people here claim Pierce's character is terrible, but it really doesn't. It works perfectly with the other cast. Pierce is a great and funny character most of the time. It's not like the show tries to convince you he's a good person, it makes it clear that he's an ass from day 1. I would argue that his character in S4 is weird though. He seems strangely... nice?
Don't get me wrong, he's still an ass. But S4 is so weird that I actually like Pierce better than Annie. I think we all dislike Pierce, but that doesn't make him a bad character. I think Pierce's character is also a great reflection of what was going on behind the scenes of Community's set at the moment. There's a lot of interviews and podcasts you can listen to related to that, but the part in the show where Pierce feels "excluded" was actually a thing that was going on. (Not that I'm defending Chevy Chase: Community's cast had a LOT of reasons to not include them in their hangouts and that sort of stuff.)
I think that Pierce's moment in S2 paintball doesn't make much sense only because the D&D episode was deleted from Netflix. That's where it all kinda started. It's hard to understand what's going on with Pierce in the paintball ep if you haven't watched the D&D one. But yeah, Pierce isn't a bad character. He's such very, very, unlikable. And that's why he's good.
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Smile by Maisie Peters can be used to explain Daniel Ricciardo from 2018 to the end of 2020, as well as Red Bull's search for someone to replace Daniel and fill the hole he left within the team.
By now, we've all grown aware of how unexpected Daniel leaving Red Bull was and the rapid driver change-ups that followed in his wake.
I think it's evident that Red Bull was not prepared to replace Daniel. From everything that we've learned about contract negotiations, Red Bull was expecting to re-sign Daniel.
Got bridges to burn and places to run
Yeah, this smile is a loaded gun
There was an hour-long private meeting with Dietrich Mateschitz, after which both Dietrich and Daniel came back smiling and it was thought that the contract was all but signed. During the meeting, Dietrich offered Daniel a matching salary to Max and reaffirmed it after learning what they were paying Max.
It's my party, my body, my business
It's my town and my crown and my hitlist
It's my world and you're just living in it
Daniel left Red Bull when no one expected him to, and in hindsight, yeah it was a bad decision. However, given the information available at the time, it didn't seem like the worst decision ever. Like, yes, Renault had its issues, but they were offering to build a team around him and were giving him a very nice contract.
Leaving Renault after 2020 seemed like a questionable decision after all that they had promised him. However, in hindsight, it was a decent decision because Alpine is a disaster and a half on a good day and to be honest there's not been many good days recently. Their 100 race plan is more like a 100 ways to not have a team.
No more Mrs. Sweet and Miss Nice
No more Mrs. Fuckin' Polite
Time for Mrs. Takin' What's Mine
You don't need him
Daniel since he has returned to the Red Bull ecosystem and started to love the sport again has made it very clear that he wants Checo's seat. There are several articles, interviews, and podcast appearances in which Daniel continues to confirm that he is indeed trying for that Red Bull seat. And despite what people may think, he has put in the results that would begin the conversations about moving to the main team, especially after the awful year that Checo has had. The pace that Daniel has shown in the AlphaTauri is not insignificant, while it didn't translate to points finishes as much as he may have liked, it shows what Daniel Ricciardo can do when you give him the car.
If he tries to control me, he's finished
Won't be crying, there's plenty of fishes
And I, and I, and I'm fishin'
You should know that you won't find another
I think Will Buxton has said it best: "And I think Red Bull has probably come to the realization that the only driver who can replace Daniel, is Daniel." Will Buxton goes on to say that if they can bring the Daniel of old back, then Red Bull will stick him back in the car to drive alongside Max because the Daniel/Max driver lineup was one of the best that Red Bull has had. Red Bull, since 2019, has been trying to fill the space Daniel left and for a time they've done so with Checo. However, after the disastrous 2023 season, there are so many questions about whether Checo is the person for that seat. Especially if the other teams do close the gap and don't drop the ball like they did this year.
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Just a short analysis from my drafts that I thought I would post in celebration of submitting my Master's Thesis. Just two more final papers and I'll be done with grad school.
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San Jose Sharks/San Jose Barracuda media resources!
HELLO everyone, I keep seeing more and more new faces in the notes of Sharks prospects posts, which is BANANAS because who even cares about the Sharks, but also, welcome, I am so glad you are here!! Being a fan of the San Jose Barracuda is easier when there are people who are suffering with you so I'm glad for every new person who sees a picture of some prospect and goes 🤨. Our prospect pipeline is full of delightful and charming young men who are varying degrees of incredibly boneheaded and development camp is always such a special, stupid, joy.
I thought it might be nice to do a round up of media resources for the teams, since there seem to be some new eyes on the players and interest in learning more! Luckily, San Jose is not Toronto, so the media landscape is much easier to navigate.
Note: this is not an exhaustive list, it's just media sources that I tend to hit up the most often and trust more than other sites. But again, we also don't have that much lol.
SITES:
San Jose Hockey Now: They have good access to the team and do a lot of prospect stuff. They also read like People magazine. It's incredibly entertaining. Most of their prospect interviews are locked behind a paywall but it's literally $3.49 a month* to subscribe so PLEASE consider signing up
Fear the Fin: They did decent stuff when they were part of SB Nation, however they were part of the cuts of SB Nation, so they're still getting back on their feet as an independent site. Their photographer is fantastic.
The Hockey News' San Jose Sharks vertical: Max Miller is fighting for his life in the trenches, but sometimes has interesting soundbites.
Again it's San Jose so we don't have like. very much. Also normally I'd recommend checking out local newspapers for their beats, but the Mercury News' Sharks beat reporter is not that great and you get so much further with SJHN or Corey Masisak.
TWITTER (and Instagram)
The state of our social media teams is such that they are absolutely horrific experiences to perceive, which is, to be clear, so reflective of living in San Jose generally.
San Jose Sharks on twitter // on instagram
San Jose Barracuda on twitter // on instagram
There are also player instagrams which you can look up on your own because I feel weird linking personal instagrams lol.
Media people worth following:
Sheng Peng: Editor in Chief of SJHN who gets some of the most charming soundbites out of the guys. Also some of the most ??? soundbites. And then, I cannot stress this enough, frames the conversations like a pulp magazine.
Corey Masisak: formerly of the Athletic, thankfully now one of the Sharks staff writers. He's quite a talented writer and has a good touch with the teams and has gotten some charming human interest stories out of the Sharks. We love him and hate Kevin Kurz. Follow him on Twitter for direct links to articles -- the NHL.com website is mostly press releases and hell to navigate.
Lizz Child: the Barracuda's staff writer, also their smm. Great interviews with the players, she's good at getting honest answers out of them. Also has an incredible wealth of knowledge about players coming out of the WHL.
Max Miller: the kid holding the Sharks beat for the Hockey News together, I don't have a strong opinion on him but he does come up with good stuff sometimes
PODCASTS:
What baffles me about San Jose Sharks podcasting landscape is that we have SO MANY FAN PODCASTS and yet somehow they're all garbage?? Where is our YCDT, our Tunnel Talk. I'd start one but I have no friends and nothing interesting to say and absolutely no one needs hear another man run his mouth off about hockey. Also I would jump off a bridge if the org perceives me again.
All links go to Spotify.
Locked on Sharks: JD Young is like my pet hamster. He is SO BAD at interviewing, however he is also a huge hype man of the prospects and gets interviews with some of the guys who don't get quite as much attention or who are not big names yet. (He's getting better at interviewing, but it's taking him. years.)
The Undercurrent with Tara Slone: One of the Sharks official podcasts, everyday I wake up and go how the fuck did we get Tara Slone on our payroll. It's a newer podcast, but she's already had some great conversations with prospects.
Cuda Confidential: NICK NOLLENBERGER, BELOVED. Nolly is the Cuda's play by play announcer for AHLTV and I think also the Cuda's head of PR. Generally very charming, he does good interviews, especially with the older guys. I also really like his game recaps for Cuda games, they're short and he does a good job of running through everything that happened
Sharks Hockey Digest: I have never listened to this because I think it's mostly PR conferences, but apparently they started to doing off season interviews so I guess I gotta. 🫠
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@tofumilanesa is giffin those Cuda games and Sharks games when their special dudes are involved and also has a great eye for when the players are doing some incredibly stupid shit on ice
@whoredeleau is grabbing the tweets and instagram photos and videos
@bunnymcfoo occasionally posts game day photos
me, who is mostly grabbing photos of old guys from the Cuda's flickr and very occasionally from Instagram, and posting live updates from the Cuda games that include such critical information for the broader fan community as "Coach Jmac got a haircut I think" and "Pat Sieloff looked tenderly at another old man today" and "Nick Cicek is riled up at the refs and it's giving 'my son asked for no pickles'" and "I just found out the arena sells cookies."
and for AO3 lmao.....hit me up on my main (@moregraceful) - I try to keep it lowkey on this blog ever since the fucking org found me.
Anyway, hope literally any of that is helpful!! I love when people get interested in this cringefail franchise. I'll be at the scrimmage tonight and hopefully have something interesting to report. Any questions feel free to ask!!
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