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mycatismyfriend · 2 months
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer | 3x14 "Bad Girls"
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genericaces · 1 month
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angel investigations takes a field trip to jimmy buffett's margaritaville
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irate-iguana · 10 months
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Please accept some AtS textpost memes.
BtVS textpost memes
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oveliagirlhaditright · 8 months
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Everyone thinks it's hilarious that Wesley poses as Faith's lawyer in order to break her out of prison in season four of AtS (and for good reason. This is really funny.)
But in the books, before this happens (chronologically, anyway), Angel always had to pose as Faith's lawyer in order to talk to her while she was in prison. LOL.
In fact, it's sort of implied that Wesley is essentially pretending to be Angel, her lawyer, when he breaks her out in S4 (at least if you choose to see the books as canon).
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contriite · 11 months
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Lilah Morgan ( @lilahemorgan )
“I thought about it..” She admitted as she came back into the bedroom from the bathroom and walked over to him. She hadn’t intended to stay the night again, but it beat going home to an empty apartment. She also didn’t want to admit it even to herself much less him, but she was starting to feel comfortable with him and safe. She sat down on the edge of the bed and glanced at the clock on the nightstand. “I don’t have to be at the office for a few hours..”
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Wesley is still in bed,, && if Lilah hadn't been up-and-about he might have slept the remaining hours of her stay away. His days of getting up before sunrise seemed to belong to an altogether different life now. There was nothing to get out of bed for && so he made a point of not becoming conscious until he absolutely had to.
He isn't sure whether or not he is glad she's still here. There is a comfort to company - even if it was the WRONG company --&& Wesley still hasn't forgotten that Lilah is most definitely WRONG. It's just that he doesn't particularly care for that distinction anymore. A lifetime of fighting on the right side && look where that had gotten him?
He swallows - the pain is still there but it hardly bothers him anymore. Still, his hand shoots up to touch the rough scar running over the width of his neck.
"- and you have decided to grace me with your presence?" he replies, his voice tainted with sleep as his hand closes around her wrist, gently but firmly pulling her closer.
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drjohndisco · 1 year
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"You want something for the pain?" "What pain?"
(Angel the Series 3.13 - Waiting in the Wings)
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I truly do not understand this idea that Cordelia saw Angel at his worst and at his best, and because of that, she knew him best. When did she see him at his worst? How did she know him best?
She was around in Btvs S2 during the Angelus arc but didn’t experience anything first hand…she was mostly seeing things from the sidelines and Buffy actually experienced being Angelus’ victim first hand. During Btvs S3, one of his darkest periods imo because he literally comes back from hell, is struggling with depression, guilt, shame and also tries to kill himself. Cordelia was again only a distant witness to his struggles, if even that, unlike Buffy who was the only person to support him through all of that. Then there’s Ats s2 during the Darla stuff, which Cordelia wasn’t around for because he fired them all and none of them ever tried to help him (including Cordelia), it wasn’t until after he had his epiphany that him and Cordelia started to get close. She was there to support him during baby Connor abduction in S3 but I would argue that that wasn’t Angel worst by any means.
I just cannot subscribe to this idea that Cordelia has seen all sides of him and knows him the best out of everyone because she wasn’t even around for a lot of the really heavy stuff that Angel went through. On top of that, I would argue that Angel didn’t even know Cordelia best, like some people also like to claim.
Idk, what do you think?
I agree on everything.
I think it's important to make a distinction between spending time with someone and knowing someone. You can spend all of your time with a person and not quite know them.
For most of the shows, Cordelia, truth be told, was only a young girl who'd grown up privileged, and, despite her Sunnydale experience and family going bankrupt, completely lacked the tools to really understand Angel, for many reasons.
Cordelia wasn't the most empathetic person. She was the kind of person who saw the world through the filter of her experiences, so she struggled to put herself on someone else's shoes and treated others according to the worth she assigned to them (relative to her). That's why many of her attempts at being sympathetic were a bit tone deaf. The idea that Cordelia was emotionally intelligent is highly innaccurate. Not being able to read a room is the opposite of emotional intelligence. She could be sharp in her observations but she could also miss the point. With Angel, she understood that he was lonely, or that he needed a hobby. She understood when he wanted to be talked to. She learned those things about him, but it's important to note that those were all things she could relate to.
Its hard for anyone to understand stuff they can't relate to, but Cordelia was particularly flawed in this sense. She never understood why Angel was so "broody", for example (she treated him like his depression was childish or something), and she didn't quite understand what Shanshuing meant to Angel either. She saw it as a chance for him to become human, but it was way more than that. She couldn't understand, because she hadn't truly dealt with Angelus and the fallout of that. She had met some of Angelus's offspring, but that didn't help her understand how Angel felt about it.
As you said, Cordelia wasn't there for the Angelus season 2 fiasco or the great season 3 depression. She missed the Darla stuff too. So she missed some of the most pivotal moments in Angel's life.
In season 3, she saw Angel at his saddest, probably, but it's true that he was pretty stable even after his son's kidnapping. However, the point isn't that she wasn't present for his hardest moments (she wasn't, for the most part, particularly since she wasn't around for seasons 4 and 5 either), but it's also that she failed to understand the significance of the things she did witness. She couldn't put all the pieces of the puzzle together. She understood Angel missed his son and that he had lost a chance to be "normal", but did she really understand what it meant for Angel to have had that opportunity? Even though Cordelia also lived an unusual lifestyle, she didn't desperately long for a place to belong, or to be normal.
Did Cordelia ever understand Angel's complex relationship with his past (especially Darla), or why he was willing to do anything to absolve himself of his past in any way? I would argue no.
I would even argue that there is no character who understood Angel perfectly - he lived too long for that - and the people I believe knew him best, knew him best at different times.
Firstly, there's Buffy, who was with Angel through some major turning points in his life. She encouraged him to fight for himself and for redemption. She understood his pain to the best of her ability. She understood how Angel was innocent of Angelus's crimes because she literally saw him come back to himself without remembering anything he'd done. She understood how he was haunted by Angelus's crimes because he tried to kill himself for it. She saw how he struggled with not being a normal man, due to the restrictions that imposed on their relationship, and because she was a slayer. Her feelings for him also mirrored his feelings for her, and she was the only one who understood their bond and the impossibly of their love.
And later, when she grew up, she could understand Angel's loneliness and darkness better. She could understand parenthood. She could understand loss and depression. She could even understand Angel's relationship with Darla a bit, because of Spike. However, she didn't see Angel go through a lot of that stuff, so she couldn't understand what she didn't know.
Who knew Angel best is usually a debate of Buffy vs. Cordelia vs. Darla vs. Faith. Regarding Faith, she understood redemption, loneliness, guilt pretty well, but not to the extent to which Angel did. And Darla had a soul for all of five seconds, so she mostly only shared his love for Connor.
Wesley, though, and I know you didn't ask about this, but he might've been the person who knew Angel best. Apart from the Darla affair, he was there from beginning till end (of AtS). He understood some of the guilt Angel felt, because of Connor, Faith, Fred, Lilah. He understood how bad parenting traumatize you. He understood Angel wanted to be normal and to belong because he badly wanted it too. He understood regret, hate and love, desperation, loneliness, forgiveness. Post season 3, he became a complex person in the exact same way Angel was. He had also studied vampires, including Angelus so he knew what Angel had done. Wesley was a dark person, who was empathetic too, so he understood much about Angel. Imo, in the end, he knew Angel best, because they were similar. And Angel understood Wesley well too, which is why he always forgave him.
As for Angel, I agree that he didn't know Cordelia very well, because it was hard for him to relate to her personality or experiences. I think he didn't try hard to understand her either, because it was all mostly about him and his issues. Cordelia was too simple for him to think about her issues too much...
Thanks for the ask! My reply was unnecessarily long, but that's on brand for me, right?
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ikolit · 2 years
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Angel S3 how dare you hurt my boy like that
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tvshowscouples · 1 month
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If you love Wesley Wyndam-Pryce (Buffy The Vampire Slayer / Angel) and you want reblog or like,this is the link of my reblog character:)
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mycatismyfriend · 6 months
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Angel the Series | 5x15 | The great cavemen vs astronauts debate of '04
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genericaces · 4 months
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feeling the angel crew today
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irate-iguana · 4 months
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Wesley’s arc is not a glow up, it is a tragedy! When he’s at his lowest, he puts on a Angel impersonation hyper-masculine facade as a defence mechanism, repressing all the vulnerability and personality quirks that he was shamed for growing up. While in s1 this is treated as comedy, in s3 he performs successfully enough to be convincing, but he ends up isolated, depressed, and losing his grip on reality. He can’t get help or rebuild his relationships because of his fear of displaying “unmanly” vulnerability. His fighting skills, which have steadily been improving as he gains confidence in his abilities, instead seem to advance because he stops caring about his own safety, and in the end it gets him killed. Wesley is not a role model, he is a cautionary tale.
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Cordelia being ADD and Angel actually being pretty patient about it. LOL
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bisexualblckcanary · 6 months
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The version of Wesley who has lived rent-free in my head for years likes prog rock.
He gets distracted if his research is kinda boring and he puts stuff on in the background so the longer the album the better.
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drjohndisco · 7 months
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This exchange seems like it would be at home in the Discworld.
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aviveappc · 6 months
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