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bramblrose · 1 year
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“People are oblivious to reality. They only see what they want to see. Imprisoned by their mind’s restrictions. When all they have to do is shift their perspective to see the full scope of things.”
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fukutomichi · 1 year
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1899 / S1.E1 - The Ship
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therewillbekpop · 1 year
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sylviamarsh · 1 year
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1899: a commentary
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1899gifs · 1 year
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babe, my parents aren’t home 1899 edition
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brotherdusk · 1 year
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maura now is not the time!
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someillplanetreigns · 10 months
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Not sure who here is still having 1899 thoughts but I have a theory I'm chewing over
That triangle symbol that's everywhere... Dark taught us that Bo and Jantje like a good symbol with structural significance to the show. So I've been wondering what the triange could indicate, and here's my current proposal
(Spoilers for the series below!)
Three keys
You know how in Stranger Things s3 (stay with me) when Joyce and Hopper try and shut down the gate and they need to both turn keys in order to do so, because the system is designed so one person alone can't switch it off? What if the simulation is like that? Maura's key opened one section, but like a puzzle box it's only opened up a new puzzle to open?
I'm playing with the idea that there are two more keys the characters need to find and use to actually break free of the simulation. I just love the idea that to spite Henry's jibe that they keep failing because their emotions get in the way, that actually escape can only be possible with the characters working together.
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theworldfallsup · 1 year
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I can’t remember the last time a piece of media moved me in such a way as 1899 has. Rewatch after rewatch, I can’t get enough of how there is always some new detail for me to find. The complexity and detail from Bo and Jantje is nothing short of awe-inspiring, and it’s led me to writing fan fiction again for the first time in almost a decade.
1899 doesn’t just deserve another season—it demands one. I sincerely hope that we get to see what happens aboard the Prometheus one day.
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aliitvodeson · 1 year
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I haven’t talked enough about how amazing the costuming on 1899 was, so let’s fix that
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Virginia Wilson’s green gown is STUNNING
the show is a bit dark to see the true beauty of that fabric, but I just love that rich green
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And this dress is very clearly based on an 1897 Worth gown (owned by Countess Élisabeth de Caraman-Chimay), with some changes (Wilson’s version adds more triangles, which is very important for the show of course). The original is velvet on silk, which gives it this absolutely amazing depth in the blue-black-violet details.
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This is actually considered a tea gown - these were usually meant for recieving friends at your home, and not for going out into public. Tea gowns are a blend between casual and formal, a way to dress up but still remain fairly cosy.
Of course, because the Countess is an extra bitch (she was known as the Queen of Saloons for a reason) her tea gown is far closer to a formal gown.
I think it captures a lot about Wilson’s personality that she has no problem wearing a gown meant for private or close friends, out into public around the ship.
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anxiouspotatorants · 1 year
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I did a rewatch, here are a bunch of smaller things I feel like can be important in the future (cancellation? what cancellation?):
Ada’s ghost ship story. It’s about how the sea gets so angry when the passengers and crew of a ship kill a whale that it sends a storm their way and turns it into an actual ghost ship. Could be an allegory for what the passengers do to Elliot and the simulation subsequently killing them afterwards, or it could be part of an even larger narrative.
Franz has been part of Eyk’s crew for as long as Maura and Daniel have been married.
Several important characters have scarring and wounds on their faces or arms, and some of Franz’ are fresher even before we see him physically fight.
Anker literally means anchor. It’s probably just a characterisation detail for Anker but still an interesting name choice.
«Die Gedanken sin frei» is a song celebrating freedom of thought.
When Maura wakes up the first time it’s Henry’s voice telling her to do so but afterwards and for everyone else it’s Maura’s voice.
When Ramiro and Angel hook up in 1.02 the scene ends with a shot of a painting of a wolf and a sheep.
While the earth symbol is everywhere, only Ling Yi, Virginia Wilson and Clémence seem to have it on their clothes or accessories. It might be a stretch, but I also think the embroidered flower on Clémence’s collar looks like a bug.
Tove describes Iben’s religious conviction and the fact that she hears voices as creating her own world that the people around her have decided to follow. This could be a parallel to Maura creating the simulation and pulling everyone into it.
In 1.05 Maura tells Eyk that she remembers being a doctor and that her father must have changed her memory to make her a patient. This is probably her doing because of the Elliot reveal, but she also says she thinks she managed to remember the purpose of what was happening and was made to forget. Is this her projecting her deeds onto her father again, or did she actually manage to remember one time and get forced back into forgetting by someone else?
After exiting her first flashback into the shooting scene, Tove sees that she stands in front of room 2102. There’s a big visual focus on room numbers in general too.
Speaking of numbers, Maura’s room in the ship and the room in the mental hospital are both numbered 1011.
Virginia Wilson is confirmed to speak and understand English, French and Cantonese so far.
There are multiple closeups of Eyk’s family photo.
All of the photos on Daniel and Maura’s nightstand seem to be from the same day. One of the photos shows Elliot holding the bug, indicating that this day is the same as Elliot’s flashback. Also Maura and Elliot’s clothing in the photos seem similar to if not identical to their simulation outfits.
When Maura and Daniel kiss we see flashes of them together, the mental hospital, the wooden cross from the tomb, a brain and Maura walking down a corridor with a hammer.
Daniel says that if Maura doesn’t wake up, there will be nothing left to wake up for.
Elliot and Daniel’s simulation flashbacks both end with either of them holding Maura’s frock in the middle of the same faulty simulation that Henry is in.
Henry says Maura has fooled «all of us».
Ángel’s song (a version of La Tarara) mentions a finger that can’t be healed and a white dress. The finger could be Virginia and the white dress could be Maura in her hospital gown. The white dress verse claims La Tarara only wears it on Maundy Thursday, and the finger verse says no surgeon can cure it.
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fatherramiro · 8 months
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I've been thinking a lot lately about the backstories we didn't see in 1899 season one, especially in the wake of Olek's postcard being translated. Obviously with an eight episode first season, you can't really get into everyone's backstories and some characters - like Sebastian - were always going to be held back for season two for Mystery Purposes. But there's still a deliberate choice in which backstories we see.
For the purpose of this post, a backstory is a flashback sequence featuring a character prior to the Kerberos, even if it isn't their story that's being told. It does not include discussion of backstories - because all these characters do is lie - or stepping into a memory if we don't see the full backstory. Ergo, the characters who see backstories for are Maura, Daniel, Eyk, Ling Yi, Yuk Je, Jérôme, Lucien, Tove, Krester, Iben, Anker, and Elliot.
That leaves us with several major players who we don't know the full story about, namely Olek, Ramiro, Ángel, Virginia, Clémence, and Sebastian. We know Sebastian is deeply tied to the Singleton family drama (and yet seems to posses a strong loyalty to Eyk). Everyone else is ostensibly as trapped as everyone else is. But I wonder if the reason these backstories were specifically selected to not be shown in season one is because these characters might be somehow more connected to the simulation plot/Singleton family drama than we previously anticipated.
Let's break it down under a cut.
The easiest character to apply this theory to is Sebastian. He's basically Noah from Dark in that we see him as an antagonist character in season one! He's betraying Eyk and the crew, he is the one that gets the mutineers to want to kill Elliot, he actively does murder Eyk, he kidnaps Elliot, he kidnaps Maura, he's working for our main antagonist (at the time of the season one finale, that is)... and yet what do we really know about him? Whatever his story is, there's a lot to be explored there, and it makes sense that he's got a larger narrative role to play beyond double agent. This is a Bo and Jantje show after all - they don't do anything simple.
Virginia is also a logical choice for mysterious backstory/potential connection. She practically screams "I'm going to play a huge role in the story" from the moment she walks on screen. She tells Maura within five seconds of knowing her that she needs to stop being a seeker ("aren't some better things left in the dark?") before she leads the room in picking up their cups at the same time. She knows more than what she seems to know, even if at the end it seems like she's dissolving into dust. It is her undermining Maura that leads to most of the survivors going through Spooky Memory Hell after they split up. And it's very telling that she's saved just in time from the calling. She's up to shit, and it would make sense for her to not only be a much bigger player in the story but for her backstory to be saved for season two.
Virginia also has a very strong, almost fearful reaction in episode two to the ship going back to England. There's a couple other characters who get equally as freaked out by the concept in episode one...
Olek's second scene is him panicking in the engine room because the ship is turning around. He grabs one of the other workers and asks "why turn ship?" We don't know much about Olek at this point, only that he doesn't want to return to England, but why? The postcard translation implies he's taken over the identity of someone else named Olek, and quite possibly murdered a priest and thrown him in an oil well (doesn't that sound familiar...). He also, unlike every other "ghost" that appears to the characters, seems to be physically able to interact with the world around him in episode eight. And finally, while I realize the answer is probably "the plot", he was randomly on the deck when Ling Yi needed help in episode three. Yes, plot contrivances, but also why has he left his post? Usually he just goes to the loading area, but he's suddenly on the first class deck? What sparked that.
There's also the fact that Maciej and Rosalie (the actors who play Olek and Virginia, respectively) share a title card. With the exception of Emily, Aneurin, and Andreas, who have their own solo credits, all the actors who share title cards in the opening credits play connected characters (Miguel and José, Yann and Mathilde and Jonas, Isabella and Gabby, etc.) I know contracts determine who gets billed when and where but also there was a choice, along the line, to not put Maciej with Isabella and Gabby. And I think that's interesting.
The characters who we see panicking immediately after Olek in episode one are, of course, Ramiro and Ángel. We know mostly why they'd be freaking out - they're on the run after murdering a priest! But of all the character backstories who were saved for season two, these two make the most logical choice to be shown in season one. Not only would it provide character depth for Ramiro, who's already showing himself to be developing across all eight episodes, but it would provide some much needed backstory for Ángel which in turn would not only contextualize his shitty behavior in the first few episodes but also maybe give the audience more reason to feel sorry for him. It would also make Ángel's sudden turn from smug douche to loyal boyfriend make even more sense. There's a lot we can assume from what we're told about both characters but there is also a lot left vague and that begs more questions.
Both characters also display fascinating behaviors throughout the show. Ramiro, even as the show's moral center, never talks about his past at all. We know he killed a man, and we know he's a servant, but unlike everyone else (except Olek and Virginia) we have no idea what his life was like prior to the Kerberos really. Everyone else will talk themselves silly about their home lives and their traumas, but Ramiro keeps his past under wraps, despite the narrative easily having space to give him a chance to monologue about it. Ángel, on the other hand, seems to have some precognition about the simulation. He draws the final scene in the engine room in his sketchbook. He's the only person on the ship who is affected by the calling but not to the extent that he'll jump. In episode eight, he is the only ghost who can be heard by everyone and not just the person he's most connected to. I also think that the strange shot of him looking up the ceiling in episode seven as the ship creaks is a sign that perhaps he knew that it would kill him. So, what does he truly know, and does he even realize he knows it?
Speaking of not talking about one's past, we end with Clémence. It is very interesting that besides Clémence talking about her sister and how the things she wanted changed with Tove, we know very little about Clémence. Lucien implies her parents arranged the marriage between them, but we never see any of that on-screen. We do, however, get that interesting beat of her reacting to Lucien storming out in episode one with a rather odd look on her face. There's a pyramid paperweight that looks exactly like the pyramid outside Henry's office in her and Lucien's cabin. Her costume practically drips with symbolism - her earrings and hairpin are both the triangle symbol and she has a beetle detail on her collar.
Strangely enough, she and Jérôme are the only ones who we don't see escape from the memory wells in episode eight. Tove and Virginia run through a door, Ling Yi follows Olek, Ramiro pursues Ángel. But we just see Jérôme and Clémence facing down a monstrous wave of the crystals and then they run around a corner perfectly fine. There's a reason we did not see their escape. Bo and Jantje do not fuck around. This wasn't a cut scene.
I think that these characters are the ones with a deeper tie to the overarching mythology, even if they are not aware of it in the simulation at the time. The question then becomes who knows what, and who has loyalty to who? Is Virginia the secret main antagonist of the series, and is Olek potentially connected to her? Do Ramiro and Ángel have varying levels of knowledge and differing loyalties which is why there is a tension between them in the beginning of the series? Clémence, girl, what do you know and was that really your envelope at the end of the show?
I don't think all of these characters were secret bad guys. I don't even necessarily think this theory is 100% the direction they were going in. But there was a choice made to hold these backstories back until season two (RIP) and it feels like, based on what little we know and what we can draw from season one, there was a specific reason to do so. So now, let's just bully netflix into changing their damn mind because I too would like to know for sure.
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cefonteyn · 1 year
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Prediction: Virginia Wilson will play a crucial role in the next season.
First person to speak to Maura on the Kerberos
Leads the whole dining room in raising and lowering teacups (look closely -- she's already lowered her cup while everyone else still sips)
Conveniently fluent in Cantonese, along with French and English
Only person who apparently heard the Calling and survived without having to be restrained
One of only five characters with a surname (along with Maura Franklin, Eyk Larsen, Henry Singleton, and Daniel Solace)
Undermines Maura's attempts to learn about the brain and the world around them, twice (eps. 1 and 8)
Asks Maura to think about why she's on the ship, twice (eps. 1 and 8)
First person Maura sees on Project Prometheus, even before Eyk
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But, like, what is everyone’s actual job on the project? Based on the output Maura read at the end we have 55 official crew members on the Space-Prometheus. It stands to reason, given Henry’s hyper focus on them (plus their proximity to Maura in the pod) our main cast may be in major crew positions?
So what are they?
Eyk, I’m guessing, could conceivably be ship’s captain. It would make the transition into the simulation easier and Sebastian (for all his low down sneaky…) shows him due respect most of the series. If Maura is heading the simulation, it would also put them in direct contact with each other as well.
My running bet is Clémence is the head of security. Jérome and Lucien are tied to a military background, and coupled or not, the three of them are closely associated with each other. Add to that her practicality jumping straight into pants for freer movement and it makes a weird bit of sense.
Virginia is clearly an administrator. Probably managing passenger transition/relocation on and off the ship.
The Anker family is a bit of a mystery, since we only see the parents and adult children in the pods. They could be legitimate passengers or any number of them could be misc. crew members and brought the rest of their family with them.
Olek obviously serves as a resident medic, medic’s assists, or counselor. With the exception of Maura, he’s the one character to directly aid multiple others in managing their distress. He also does so instinctively without considering the potential risks to himself first. While his technical skills maybe suppressed, that kind of compassion is really hard to fake and honestly he just kind of screams doctor after a while.
Any other suggestions?
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What I find interesting is how all the characters end up in a completely different place than where they started. That’s what I call good storytelling, when it’s all about the characters.
Maura starts with trying to convince herself she isn’t crazy, trying to never let emotions cloud her judgement and never letting things get to her. She ends up almost broken, drained, on her knees crying, begging Sebastian to bring Eyk back, ultimately doing whatever Daniel tells her in order to wake up. 
Eyk starts being an authority to everyone on the ship, never letting anyone question his decisions (except Maura, he’s into that😏). He’s not answering to anyone and actually does what he wants and thinks is right. He ends up losing him mind, surrendering his authority, desperately searching for answers and never really getting any.  
Angel and Lucien start on the same page, as wolves, dominant compared to their partners. Angel taking everything he wants, doing anything he wants without fear, while Ramiro remains in his shadow, Lucien keeping Clemence in the same spot with his anger and pride. They both end up dying. Angel’s last words being “I’m scared” and Lucien surrendering to his fate he thought he could escape. While Ramiro and Clemence step in, expend their borders and start being a vital part in the most important events on the ship. Jerome starts as suspicious to everyone, everyone always trying to keep him on a leash. Ends up being one of the people Clemence, Olek and Eyk relay on and someone who steps in to save the day.
Olek start off as no one. Keeps his head down and is trying to not get involved in anything. But his sense of justice, kindness and loyalty brings him to a point where he, just like Jerome, ends up being a hero, and ultimately Eyk’s right hand man. Ling Yi starts as someone on a leash, being controlled like a bird in a cage, not allowed to have dreams. Ends up doing whatever she wants, against everyone’s decisions.
Tove starts off as someone always having to fight for herself, as being the pillar of sanity in her family in spite of everything she’s been through. None of them ever there to protect her when she needed it, but her protecting herself and being the reason that controls her family’s desperate actions. She ends up finally experiencing how it feels like when someone fights for her for a change when Franz of all people sacrifices himself in order to protect and save her. Finally someone to put her first. 
Virginia starts off as dominant and controlling, using other people for her own gain. She ends up afraid, begging and depending on kindness of others. 
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spectraling · 1 year
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I know Virginia is an asshole, but also
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can she step on me
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